Fiolab , spigen , even though they claim infinity edge , but it's stil not the real 3D curve hot bend type , any temp glass that using cup , pull isnt real 3D hotbend , because 3D hot Bending must using roll method to do installation , i think now can skip the Blueo AR because it seen like having some miss alignment issue Either get Torras or Metal Cloth which already proven by u and sifu andrew for iphone 17pm






Next time maybe u can try Torras and make a comparison between metal cloth glass But i think expensive one normally will have more tahan de coating , maybe metal clotch after 3 month 6 month feel coating degrade and torras might be more tahan lama. Me sakit hati oh to spend so much on temp glass because i really change quite often because i gaming on phone , so when coating degrade over time , not syiok anymore to play , at this moment will start looking for a new temp glass to replace.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 20 2025, 11:33 AM

3D hot bending was introduced on iphone 16pm era not 15 , because of the thin bezel , so they had to using hot bending technology to overcome the thin bazel.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 20 2025, 12:15 PM

Yes , that me 😂 i recommend 秋谷兔 but lately found that metal cloth also using the same thing actually , so i will buy which offer cheaper price , but i found that Metal cloth have the best deal always.

But my ip16pm that time doesnt have AR coating , after 17pm only they introduce the AR coating type of 3D hot bend.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 20 2025, 12:27 PM

Haha , i no dare say metal cloth was the champion of quality , but for me i think it just worth the price , china market very good at this , they know user like something that not the most cheapest quality , and highest quality will be too costly , that the reason middle of price with OK quality always have the best sales and easier to accept by consumer


By the way , no need try the 秋谷兔 because i found they are just the same thing , even the installation tray have the same look if u found metal cloth is good , just stick it

I not sure for the Torras seller, not sure they might work this way or not but , I have some of my china friend told me that , alot of new item , u will saw in the Official Seller A selling at retail price , let say at RM200 , after maybe just a month , there is another Official seller B selling at RM150 , then soon there is non-official seller start to sell at rm100 , this will happen because china consumer often return the goods , if u look at the percentage , might seen not high maybe just 5-10% , but we must know that if consider 5% of return rate from their "POPULATION" , it is huge , so....where those return item will be go to?

If the return item stil in very good condition , then it will go to the Official Seller B RM150 , while those not so good de condition , they might refurbish and will let non-official seller sell at RM100 price.

Also that the reason why at taobao , sometime we can saw alot of same item but with different price , lowest price might because a defect QC item , or might be a refurbish item , or might be a rejection of item from other buyer.

China people have really good return policy , Iphone AIR sold out in 5min , and i believe alot of the user grab it for shot a video of unboxing , a short review to post on their social media / bilibili / xhs , after a week then do a return to Apple And those return phone , will be used to replace 1 to 1 user that facing problem during warranty claim i believe


Sometime , u hardly to imagine that they even have a sub-company that used to copy their own product to grab those low-end consumer that always happen in china market.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 20 2025, 04:24 PM

If u wish to get same AR coating effect as your iphone 17pm , grab the one with AR (Anti-Reflection) , the price will be a little expensive than the two.

If really worry to get refurbish, or rejection item , peace of mind , just get from the expensive one , confirm will get the fresh unit from factory item which is u doing right now 😁

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 20 2025, 04:57 PM

First user to get the green line? 😅

Yeah, look like abuse the phone😂

Blueo should be their top brand in china , i never use one because i change protector quite often , around 3 - 6 month once , the blueo is consider a little pricy for me , i always find as cheap as possible with good quality , at the end i found metal cloth and rabbit brand for my android and iphone , it hit the balance of price & quality 😄 which i think it's super good deal.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 20 2025, 07:52 PM

I really wonder what do u guy actually install on your android phone? been using both android and ios , my parent using android for decade , phone never been hacked.

And nowadays bank apps already with the Secure2u , SecureSign , UOB Access , AppAuthorise , how possible getting hack? They cant even approve your transaction without your biometric or passcode

and to install sideload on android request your biometric too, even if u pass your phone to a stranger , they can't even install any apk without your biometric.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 21 2025, 11:19 AM

i do read and understand , he mention the bank app keep trigger "malicious apps" , i wonder what do he install to the phone , if the app is came from official , should be worry-free , he choose iOS for banking app for sure worry about those "malicious apps" might hacked to her phone and bank account right , if not why sudden worry and needed to go for iOS just for banking apps

Then might be the problem from the whatsapp links , some bank apps very strict , anything from non-official apps will trigger the "malicious apps notice" before u login , but if u confident with those apps , i think it wont be a problem , u stil able to actually choose to login to your bank apps as usual

Or my another advice is , before install any 3rd party apk , do upload at this web for virus scan first , here the link i drop to you. Very reliable web. It not only work on APK but web URL too.

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/home/upload


This will show the Green light



And this will show u the red light , better dont install it on your phone.


This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 21 2025, 11:40 AM

Because u been left android for too long so u dont know , even the bank detect the malicious apps and pop out malicious apps notification , u stil able to skip it and continue using your bank app like usual , that notification only inform u , u have some malicious apps on your phone and might be risky.

that the reason why i asking him what sideload do he installing and for sure he worry when saw the words "malicious apps"





for sure "scare kena hacked" come into mind. I dont think i'm over re-act and trying to trigger something here?

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 21 2025, 11:39 AM

when someone saw the "Malicious apps" appear on their phone screen , isnt malware come into their mind? If u are not worry about phone being hacked by the malware from malicious apps , why do u need to change a phone? They are not related?

The Malicious apps is a hack malware , for sure worry phone being hack , what else lol.

Yup, this is how i educate my parent too, because hacker keep on improving their skill too , so we as a user , we also have to upgrade our self knowledge to avoid unhappy happen.

My advices is , toggle off the the allow from unknown source and turn on the App Verification , there is three option to choose , so whenever your parent want to install 3rd party apk , it will request for verification. Unless ur android phone too old might not have this kind of feature, because im on android 15 now.



This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 21 2025, 04:12 PM

expensive but crack easily , i got my whitestonedome for my samsung note10 , have to remember use the sticker to tutup all the speaker and button before apply.

The downside of using this is , the finger print reader will miss & hit

Got trick to overcome this , need to use a coin cover the finger print reader during the UV , then use hand tekan that area before curve , but ended up it will feel not flat on that area Sorry to say , 3D hot bending technology stil the best

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 21 2025, 05:24 PM

People pamper their device because they using their hard earn money to buy it , and taking good care of your gadget is a discipline manner , insurance is for your careless , not because i buy an Apple Care+ then i have the right to abuse or purposely to drop my phone just for claim accident damage , it's sad that people have this kind of mind.

Dropping phone often also might damage internal component such as camera module , and buying many cases is like changing shirt or changing mode everyday , unless u are a boring man that just wear white shirt + black pant for everyday.


Will u go and and burn your house when you found there is water leaking just because u want to claim "insurance"? It just like telling your friend , "no need repair your house already , go burn it and u can claim the insurance money"

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 22 2025, 10:02 AM

AppleCare+ is for people that really heavily use their phone like filming whole day vlog , or might doing something that extremely , because for heavy usage , phone keep on at the High Temperature mode , will easily cause the screen damage (green line or green screen) , motherboard burn , network modem , or any internal chip malfunction , that is the moment where Apple Care+ come handy , because this kind of damage can't be protect by using a temp glass or a case. But not buying Apple Care+ because of going to abuse it by purpose

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 22 2025, 11:10 AM

Screen protector size should be the same , but if u plan to install with the installation box , the dimensions might be not same


Iphone 17 (149.6 x 71.5 x 8 mm) vs iphone 17 pro (150 x 71.9 x 8.8 mm)

Unless u manually install which is quite impossible for a 3D hot bending glass.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 22 2025, 11:58 AM