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post May 30 2025, 09:30 AM, updated 7 months ago

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about subsidy rationalization.
you can see in the comments in fb, insta tiktok youtube that people hating so much on gov madani and especially pmx when gov announce about cutting the subsis or subsidy rationalization.

subsidy rationalization is to make sure that B40 and the people who really need help get the help.
when gov cutting the subsis, there will be an increase price especially in f&b. when f&b raises it prices, they blame the gov.

so, actually what do they want?
bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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post May 30 2025, 09:36 AM

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Lain kali jangan jadi bodo promise benda bukan2 waktu GE
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post May 30 2025, 09:37 AM

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before jadi gov, say BN is 'barang naik'

jadi gov, PH become 'pasti naik'
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post May 30 2025, 09:38 AM

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When it doesnt hit them probably the noise die down

But inevitable for govt to kena. You ask ppl to tighten but splurge or songlap. No govt ever immune to this criticism. You either man up and take it on the chin and improve or ...continue to songlap kek
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Madani is over doing it .... step by step laa .....
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post May 30 2025, 09:39 AM

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So if price increases and you're getting less value for it and often comes with poor quality. So the poor average folks should be happy for it? thumbup.gif
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post May 30 2025, 09:39 AM

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The thing is people are not confident the money saved by removing subsidy will go the the people instead it will masuk poket politican lah...


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post May 30 2025, 09:39 AM

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simple, cannot songlap already...
like one person said "Those mob fools want you dead so they can get back to the way things were. But I know the truth: there’s no going back. You’ve changed things. Forever."


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post May 30 2025, 09:40 AM

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The way you talk like you have too many money in your hands until food raise prices also like no feel...

So opposing inflation that can be avoided= bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?

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Because in Malaysia most of the people are B40.
B40 should reclassify to become B80
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post May 30 2025, 09:42 AM

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u promise petrol price turun immediately first day in office. then not only not turun, u want tarik subsidi making petrol more exp

ok fine. then u tell the ppl tarik subsidi bcoz beban hutang negara yang tinggi. then turn around u go donate millions to different countries in middle east, help palestine build hospitals and schools, then spend millions on flag badges for students, have 3 days nationwide roadshow for 100 days of your rule

macam mana rakyat x marah dik

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Don't condemn la, you can comment/ critic government.
We all need it by all mean.
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post May 30 2025, 09:45 AM

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Sambil melucukan B40
Sambil menangis kenapa gomen tarak subsidi minyak.

KEK
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post May 30 2025, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 30 2025, 09:38 AM)
When it doesnt hit them probably the noise die down

But inevitable for govt to kena. You ask ppl to tighten but splurge or songlap. No govt ever immune to this criticism. You either man up and take it on the chin and improve or ...continue to songlap kek
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post May 30 2025, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ May 30 2025, 09:30 AM)
about subsidy rationalization.
you can see in the comments in fb, insta tiktok youtube that people hating so much on gov madani and especially pmx when gov announce about cutting the subsis or subsidy rationalization.

subsidy rationalization is to make sure that B40 and the people who really need help get the help.
when gov cutting the subsis, there will be an increase price especially in f&b. when f&b raises it prices, they blame the gov.

so, actually what do they want?
bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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Problem is their calculation , even income with Rm15k per month with children living like b40, gov underestimated cost for a household
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 30 2025, 09:46 AM)
if can't stand the heat, get the hell out of kitchen
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Yup

But politicians can stand the heat lar...

Give me also i can stand the heat...because of love of the country yeah...love of the country kek
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because socmec is like echo chamber, all siok sendiri comment just to condemn madani
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ May 30 2025, 09:30 AM)
about subsidy rationalization.
you can see in the comments in fb, insta tiktok youtube that people hating so much on gov madani and especially pmx when gov announce about cutting the subsis or subsidy rationalization.

subsidy rationalization is to make sure that B40 and the people who really need help get the help.
when gov cutting the subsis, there will be an increase price especially in f&b. when f&b raises it prices, they blame the gov.

so, actually what do they want?
bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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Tindakan Hapus Subsidi Petrol Dan Diesel Adalah Terkutuk, Tidak Bertanggungjawab Dan Memangsakan Rakyat
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post May 30 2025, 09:55 AM

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It’s inevitable. PH will only be a one term + 22 months gomen if they go thru with this fuel subsidy rationalisation. Conlanfirm.
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post May 30 2025, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 30 2025, 09:48 AM)
Yup

But politicians can stand the heat lar...

Give me also i can stand the heat...because of love of the country yeah...love of the country kek
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post May 30 2025, 09:58 AM

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No more free lunch and everyone now needs to work hard to get what they want, the people making the noise are the lazy ones while the hardworking ones utilizing their effort for better opportunities. Less noise more work brows.gif
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QUOTE(kopitiamtardx @ May 30 2025, 09:39 AM)
The thing is people are not confident the money saved by removing subsidy will go the the people instead it will masuk poket politican lah...
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Ha ha ha ha ha.... Classic example >1MDB
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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ May 30 2025, 09:39 AM)
So if price increases and you're getting less value for it and often comes with poor quality. So the poor average folks should be happy for it?  thumbup.gif
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you got read or not? the subsis went back to the poor.
im talking about subsidy rationalization
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post May 30 2025, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 30 2025, 09:36 AM)
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hahaha okay this one i agree
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QUOTE(zidane28 @ May 30 2025, 09:40 AM)
The way you talk like you have too many money in your hands until food raise prices also like no feel...

So opposing inflation that can be avoided= bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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i know how handling my finance. so that is why i talk like that, maybe.
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ May 30 2025, 11:00 AM)
about subsidy rationalization.
you can see in the comments in fb, insta tiktok youtube that people hating so much on gov madani and especially pmx when gov announce about cutting the subsis or subsidy rationalization.

subsidy rationalization is to make sure that B40 and the people who really need help get the help.
when gov cutting the subsis, there will be an increase price especially in f&b. when f&b raises it prices, they blame the gov.

so, actually what do they want?
bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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because Malaysia voters and non-voters are as bodo as they were Before and they can never comes up with any solution. laugh.gif
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post May 30 2025, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ May 30 2025, 09:42 AM)
u promise petrol price turun immediately first day in office. then not only not turun, u want tarik subsidi making petrol more exp

ok fine. then u tell the ppl tarik subsidi bcoz beban hutang negara yang tinggi. then turn around u go donate millions to different countries in middle east, help palestine build hospitals and schools, then spend millions on flag badges for students, have 3 days nationwide roadshow for 100 days of your rule

macam mana rakyat x marah dik
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err...u got point there.
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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ May 30 2025, 09:46 AM)
Problem  is their calculation , even income with Rm15k per month with children living like b40, gov underestimated cost for a household
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15k income with kids and youre poor it your problem.
live the by your income lor
bukan jadi tamak
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post May 30 2025, 10:11 AM

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becoz the stupid govt pull our petrol diesel from subsidy... yet the foods
price still going up...
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QUOTE(treblecase @ May 30 2025, 09:55 AM)
It’s inevitable. PH will only be a one term + 22 months gomen if they go thru with this fuel subsidy rationalisation. Conlanfirm.
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so the latter gov will reintroduce subsis?
nahhh...
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who promise: HARI INI SAYA NAIK, ESOK MINYAK TURUN??????????????
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Fix them problem now or expect anarchy when gomen no longer able to sustain the current subsidy models.





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post May 30 2025, 10:24 AM

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first day in meleisia ka?
those tongkat b40 are parasite

when u wanna try to take tongkat away from them?
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sampah masyarakat
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ May 30 2025, 09:30 AM)
about subsidy rationalization.
you can see in the comments in fb, insta tiktok youtube that people hating so much on gov madani and especially pmx when gov announce about cutting the subsis or subsidy rationalization.

subsidy rationalization is to make sure that B40 and the people who really need help get the help.
when gov cutting the subsis, there will be an increase price especially in f&b. when f&b raises it prices, they blame the gov.

so, actually what do they want?
bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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Pakatan Madani fault for promising to eliminate all those thing


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post May 30 2025, 11:11 AM

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want to raise, no issue
my issue is how they implement. sesuka hati announce and roll out then uturn, or negatively impacting the majority while not closing the loopholes
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post May 30 2025, 11:16 AM

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Janji dulu macam dewa,
Formula sana, formula sini,
Lepas naik, semua auta,
Tinggal drama lidah berapi.

Raja formula konon bijaksana,
Cakap berlapik macam ilmuwan,
Tapi rakyat makin merana,
Dia terus je letak jawatan.

Yang berjaya bukan si pakar,
Tapi raja mulut berbisa,
Hasut sikit, rakyat terkejar,
Janji manis, otak pun buta.

Cukai naik, harga menggila,
Toll kekal, kereta menjerut jiwa,
Rakyat terhimpit bagaikan domba,
Raja hasutan berlagak wira.

🤣
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post May 30 2025, 11:26 AM

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Bcos t1 told b40 cai follow order don't ask difficult questions
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But no more corruptions under PH government

QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 30 2025, 09:37 AM)
before jadi gov, say BN is 'barang naik'

jadi gov, PH become 'pasti naik'
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post May 30 2025, 11:31 AM

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PH needs time to realise their promises

Not saying they gonna break their promises

QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 30 2025, 09:36 AM)
Lain kali jangan jadi bodo promise benda bukan2 waktu GE
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post May 30 2025, 11:33 AM

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When diesel subsidies remove also claim f&b will raise a lot, but i did not see that drastic increase? Most impacted is Diesel as most big logistic lorries used diesel, they already did that last year and not much complain now. So be prepare for petrol, especially international oil price is low now. When there is a even breaking point for it, i believe it will kick start the no subsidy effort. Suck it up and adapt, i also plan on going into EV/Hybrid cars after petrol follow market price.
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Dont ask the obvious thing. Yinni hok kito! We want subsidy! We want free! How u get it, how u do it, we dont care! Just give us subsidy n free stuff!

/emfoti

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QUOTE(GagalLand @ May 30 2025, 11:29 AM)
But no more corruptions under PH government
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 30 2025, 10:36 AM)
Lain kali jangan jadi bodo promise benda bukan2 waktu GE
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Although it is a necessity and an unpopular decision, it's very much because of this. Orang lain manage others expectation, ini sembang kencang non-stop till the day take office.

Imagine that cakap besar candidate that your company hired but found out is actually useless, keep giving excuses, etc. Of course people are going to condemn.
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madani still continuing with failed policies of dumno

monopolies, oligopoly, APs, banks, syed moktar alone for rice (mana beras putih tempatan?)

madani guy kept the status quo for elites

failed.

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because majority of malaysians are not high value generator, they prefer to stay in the middle income trap and blame gov for not giving them free money while they remain stagnant at their own place.

For the predicament that this country is facing where all other countries are taking over in terms of economy, the people have no one to blame other than themselves.
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ May 30 2025, 09:30 AM)
about subsidy rationalization.
you can see in the comments in fb, insta tiktok youtube that people hating so much on gov madani and especially pmx when gov announce about cutting the subsis or subsidy rationalization.

subsidy rationalization is to make sure that B40 and the people who really need help get the help.
when gov cutting the subsis, there will be an increase price especially in f&b. when f&b raises it prices, they blame the gov.

so, actually what do they want?
bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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People just realized that MADANI is all about, MAma, DAddy, Nurul Izzah...
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There's no actual money channelled to Palestine, dude

Flag badges are important, dude. See how many ppl forgot how to draw MY flag, including media and pas

Roadshow are needed, else ppl would think MY still being ruled by the corrupted to the core pn pas bn1.0 backdoor government

QUOTE(DarkAeon @ May 30 2025, 09:42 AM)
u promise petrol price turun immediately first day in office. then not only not turun, u want tarik subsidi making petrol more exp

ok fine. then u tell the ppl tarik subsidi bcoz beban hutang negara yang tinggi. then turn around u go donate millions to different countries in middle east, help palestine build hospitals and schools, then spend millions on flag badges for students, have 3 days nationwide roadshow for 100 days of your rule

macam mana rakyat x marah dik
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QUOTE(littlefire @ May 30 2025, 11:33 AM)
When diesel subsidies remove also claim f&b will raise a lot, but i did not see that drastic increase? Most impacted is Diesel as most big logistic lorries used diesel, they already did that last year and not much complain now. So be prepare for petrol, especially international oil price is low now. When there is a even breaking point for it, i believe it will kick start the no subsidy effort. Suck it up and adapt, i also plan on going into EV/Hybrid cars after petrol follow market price.
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product and service always charge as expensive as possible that people still can afford.
except for some like internet service and some electronics like budget phone.
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But pn pas mca said DAP is the deepstate of madani government

QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 30 2025, 11:52 AM)
People just realized that MADANI is all about, MAma, DAddy, Nurul Izzah...
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Yeah TS you are definitely right, Members of Parliament all know how to bangun tidur selewat-lewatnya, makan sepuas puasnya, goyang telur & tidur.
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ May 30 2025, 09:30 AM)
about subsidy rationalization.
you can see in the comments in fb, insta tiktok youtube that people hating so much on gov madani and especially pmx when gov announce about cutting the subsis or subsidy rationalization.

subsidy rationalization is to make sure that B40 and the people who really need help get the help.
when gov cutting the subsis, there will be an increase price especially in f&b. when f&b raises it prices, they blame the gov.

so, actually what do they want?
bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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Yes everyone want easy money who doesnt want money drop from sky no need do anything.. but in reality wont happen la...
Also because those kecam madani all jealous apa madani can do they cant do previously so lost support la so kecam so their supporter remain loyal. Ini politik macam office also got politik...
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i would say it's due to not focusing on things that is important. not enough
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 30 2025, 09:37 AM)
before jadi gov, say BN is 'barang naik'

jadi gov, PH become 'pasti naik'
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Desmond, 'pasti naik' is PN. Yineda macha?
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We need all the voices. When dap is the opposition u made a lot of noises too right? So why u expect everyone to keep quiet when u become government? Hati terpalinf tisu?
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ May 30 2025, 10:05 AM)
you got read or not? the subsis went back to the poor.
im talking about subsidy rationalization
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Lol and you believe that? If that so, why is the poor still suffering with cost of living?
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QUOTE(littlefire @ May 30 2025, 11:33 AM)
When diesel subsidies remove also claim f&b will raise a lot, but i did not see that drastic increase? Most impacted is Diesel as most big logistic lorries used diesel, they already did that last year and not much complain now. So be prepare for petrol, especially international oil price is low now. When there is a even breaking point for it, i believe it will kick start the no subsidy effort. Suck it up and adapt, i also plan on going into EV/Hybrid cars after petrol follow market price.
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this is what i meant
we must accept it and adapt
kalau tak sampai anak cucu MY habis duit utk subsis
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ May 30 2025, 10:13 AM)
who promise: HARI INI SAYA NAIK, ESOK MINYAK TURUN??????????????
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Who is the idiot who said this?
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Because when bossku removed the subsidy, theee political scammers screw and BS about the issues. They have impressions that they can do better. Now they are gov, they know what bossku did was right and they have to do the same. Of course people who kena scammed angry la…
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ May 30 2025, 09:42 AM)
u promise petrol price turun immediately first day in office. then not only not turun, u want tarik subsidi making petrol more exp

ok fine. then u tell the ppl tarik subsidi bcoz beban hutang negara yang tinggi. then turn around u go donate millions to different countries in middle east, help palestine build hospitals and schools, then spend millions on flag badges for students, have 3 days nationwide roadshow for 100 days of your rule

macam mana rakyat x marah dik
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Exactly. I'm not against the removal of subsidy to repay country's debt, but all they did was to donate outside country instead of repaying our country debts. Last last, only rakyat suffer high prices inflation for nothing, as our country's debt still remains unpaid, all because they want prioritize other countries' needs over Malaysia.
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let's do ntg and keep sembahyang
later see where the tongkat comes from

retard still think tongkat fall from sky when u pray harder
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before jadi gov, say BN is 'barang naik'

jadi gov, PH become 'pasti naik'
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let's do ntg and keep sembahyang
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ May 30 2025, 09:30 AM)
about subsidy rationalization.
you can see in the comments in fb, insta tiktok youtube that people hating so much on gov madani and especially pmx when gov announce about cutting the subsis or subsidy rationalization.

subsidy rationalization is to make sure that B40 and the people who really need help get the help.
when gov cutting the subsis, there will be an increase price especially in f&b. when f&b raises it prices, they blame the gov.

so, actually what do they want?
bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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Many Malay in F&B now the gas subsidy remove forcing them to buy 2 times the current cost of cos la angry ..
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but who last time against remove tongkat?
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siapa tak tahan hilang tongkat
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tongkat puak will never agree to throw away their tongkat and complete fairly.

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Prc, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, etc don't have subsidy yet their food price is cheaper.

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QUOTE(Najibaik @ May 30 2025, 03:37 PM)
siapa tak tahan hilang tongkat
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tongkat puak will never agree to throw away their tongkat and complete fairly.

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I think many ex PHcais also no longer belip in PH anymore. Last time they were the loudest. Now finally realized that you vote or not vote or who you vote doesn't matter.

Even more sad for them is to realize Maryam Lee was aware and smarter than PHcais
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 30 2025, 03:38 PM)
Prc, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, etc don't have subsidy yet their food price is cheaper.
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meanwhile puak tongkat claiming hak dicabar sebab food price increase rolleyes.gif
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I think many ex PHcais also no longer belip in PH anymore. Last time they were the loudest. Now finally realized that you vote or not vote or who you vote doesn't matter.

Even more sad for them is to realize Maryam Lee was aware and smarter than PHcais
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 30 2025, 04:38 PM)
Prc, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, etc don't have subsidy yet their food price is cheaper.
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No need look far far, even Indonesia also cheaper as most of their agriculture is very mature.
When you got a lot of agriculture, no need import food = cheaper. Still if too much agriculture we also loss out to technology advancement & higher income so there are drawbacks also.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ May 30 2025, 04:14 PM)
No need look far far, even Indonesia also cheaper as most of their agriculture is very mature.
When you got a lot of agriculture, no need import food = cheaper. Still if too much agriculture we also loss out to technology advancement & higher income so there are drawbacks also.
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Agriculture in Taiwan, Japan, us, EU, PRC, etc are advanced and technology is similarly advanced.

Legacy policies e.g nep in this country is detrimental to the people and country.

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before jadi gov, say BN is 'barang naik'

jadi gov, PH become 'pasti naik'
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 30 2025, 06:04 PM)
Agriculture in Taiwan, Japan, us, EU, PRC, etc are advanced and technology is similarly advanced.

Legacy policies e.g nep in this country is detrimental to the people and country.
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Well, Japan so advance also rice price up & shortage yo. We see them good, they also see us good.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/23/ja...for-food-staple


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Lastime bossku scandals and ros big buying spree only angered most on news and didn’t affect us.

New PH with waves of cutting subsidies almost weekly/monthly .. is putting most of us in danger…Lolx .

Unless u are b40 or Gahmen servant …

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ May 30 2025, 09:42 AM)
u promise petrol price turun immediately first day in office. then not only not turun, u want tarik subsidi making petrol more exp

ok fine. then u tell the ppl tarik subsidi bcoz beban hutang negara yang tinggi. then turn around u go donate millions to different countries in middle east, help palestine build hospitals and schools, then spend millions on flag badges for students, have 3 days nationwide roadshow for 100 days of your rule

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ May 30 2025, 09:30 AM)
about subsidy rationalization.
you can see in the comments in fb, insta tiktok youtube that people hating so much on gov madani and especially pmx when gov announce about cutting the subsis or subsidy rationalization.

subsidy rationalization is to make sure that B40 and the people who really need help get the help.
when gov cutting the subsis, there will be an increase price especially in f&b. when f&b raises it prices, they blame the gov.

so, actually what do they want?
bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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Because gomen encourage b40 to breed but tax m40 n t20 to take care of those fuckers.

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Well, Japan so advance also rice price up & shortage yo. We see them good, they also see us good.
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ini apa cerita
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Bunch of people who think they know everything and since they are the majority they have more people having the same views as them. So they kutuk the minority for having a differing view, calling them stupid and naive padahal the majority are the stupid ones.

Some even threaten will cucuke the mother and sister of the minority side. This is not typical rempit guys talking, these are the PHcais who are supposed highly educated and politically mature.
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QUOTE(swanlover @ May 30 2025, 05:29 PM)
Lastime bossku scandals and ros big buying spree only angered most on news and didn’t affect us.

New PN with waves of cutting subsidies almost weekly/monthly .. is putting most of us in danger…Lolx .

Unless u are b40 or Gahmen servant …
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I do not know PN is gomen now…..
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Last time Badawi also removed the subsidy. Malays still voted for Najib
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BMX promised to reform and didn't.
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whoever promise also the same... no matter is PN or BN or PH... to reform isn't an easy task. if suddenly make a drastic change... certain puak sure not happy. if too sayang 1 puak, other puak sure flip table. not easy matter yo

1 good reason is to let them know that no gov can permanently stay forever. parties will sure crosscheck each other. next election PH probably will lose support... i forsee
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cuz they too dumb to think that there will be actual change.

fact is same puak robbers n crooks running same country into shit

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QUOTE(cycheah @ May 30 2025, 06:50 PM)
whoever promise also the same... no matter is PN or BN or PH... to reform isn't an easy task. if suddenly make a drastic change... certain puak sure not happy. if too sayang 1 puak, other puak sure flip table. not easy matter yo

  1 good reason is to let them know that no gov can permanently stay forever. parties will sure crosscheck each other. next election PH probably will lose support... i forsee
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Promise this and that...then almost all tak jadi! Ini namanya dah kena scam-med!

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QUOTE(cycheah @ May 30 2025, 06:50 PM)
whoever promise also the same... no matter is PN or BN or PH... to reform isn't an easy task. if suddenly make a drastic change... certain puak sure not happy. if too sayang 1 puak, other puak sure flip table. not easy matter yo

  1 good reason is to let them know that no gov can permanently stay forever. parties will sure crosscheck each other. next election PH probably will lose support... i forsee
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ May 30 2025, 09:30 AM)
about subsidy rationalization.
you can see in the comments in fb, insta tiktok youtube that people hating so much on gov madani and especially pmx when gov announce about cutting the subsis or subsidy rationalization.

subsidy rationalization is to make sure that B40 and the people who really need help get the help.
when gov cutting the subsis, there will be an increase price especially in f&b. when f&b raises it prices, they blame the gov.

so, actually what do they want?
bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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DS Najib removed subsidies before — so why the outrage back then? Why the agitation and street protests? Simple: the goal at the time was power. Agree?

Today, when it's their turn to cut subsidies, it's rebranded as "rationalization", supposedly to nurture rakyat self-reliance.

But “subsidy mentality” isn't the root problem. It's a convenient narrative, carefully designed to deflect attention from the real issue: entrenched greed at the top.

Look closer: when subsidies are withdrawn, who suffers most?
Ordinary citizens: street sweepers, hawkers, working families.
And who continues to thrive?
Those living off government contracts, exclusive licenses, concessions — all forms of subsidy too, just hidden behind polished terms like “incentives,” “stimulus,” and “compensation.”


Want to preach self-reliance?
Start from the top. Slash ministerial perks. Dismantle monopolies. Abolish APs. Stop protecting Proton and Perodua. Open the markets.
Lead by example.


If not, it’s just the same old script; power teaching the people to tighten their belts, while the elite grow fat behind a curtain of nationalist slogans.

Some people are just too gullible; they parrot elite narratives without thinking, like brainless zombies.
As Tun Mahathir once said: "Orang Melayu mudah lupa."
That’s why it’s so easy to deceive, manipulate, and exploit them.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 30 2025, 07:33 PM)
As long as BMX is leading, most non are unlikely to vote for him. BMX has not done anything to warrant for a second term.
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In the end nons have to vote PMX again to secure porkmeat, gambling and beer.



If PuAS berkuasa later nons must pakai kopiah, non males cut deek, nons ladies cover every inch, no entertainment for everybody no concert no movies no beer at all no haram piggy meat no non halal eateries no Magnum to buy numbers.


Telan balik or ludah also have to vote PKR PMX even if hate it.

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QUOTE(fu'house @ May 30 2025, 08:52 PM)
In the end nons have to vote PMX again to secure porkmeat, gambling and beer.
If PuAS berkuasa later nons must pakai kopiah, non males cut deek, nons ladies cover every inch, no entertainment for everybody no concert no movies no beer at all no haram piggy meat no non halal eateries no Magnum to buy numbers.
Telan balik or ludah also have to vote PKR PMX even if hate it.
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Lol u got no power here. If not ph who will u vote for? Say u dont want to vote any, most likely pn will win hahahahah. I hope the fuel rationalisation start asap. Just want to see if there are changes. Are more people will commute by public transport. Will the ev sales increase a lot. Will there be less traffic on the road. Will rempit still willing to rempit. Time will tells. People have to adapt.
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QUOTE(fu'house @ May 30 2025, 08:52 PM)
In the end nons have to vote PMX again to secure porkmeat, gambling and beer.
If PuAS berkuasa later nons must pakai kopiah, non males cut deek, nons ladies cover every inch, no entertainment for everybody no concert no movies no beer at all no haram piggy meat no non halal eateries no Magnum to buy numbers.
Telan balik or ludah also have to vote PKR PMX even if hate it.
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Neither pn or ph could secure majority in 222 seats parliament. Whoever wants to rule need support from s&s.

Never know umno may form coalition gomen with dap. BMX thought he has secured non votes is the same mistake najib thought s&s is bn fixed deposit.

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QUOTE(gx_azam @ May 30 2025, 09:14 PM)
Lol u got no power here. If not ph who will u vote for? Say u dont want to vote any, most likely pn will win hahahahah. I hope the fuel rationalisation start asap. Just want to see if there are changes. Are more people will commute by public transport. Will the ev sales increase a lot. Will there be less traffic on the road. Will rempit still willing to rempit. Time will tells. People have to adapt.
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Before BN felt, many thought umno is not replaceable. Democracy meant to change incompetence gomen.

If ss&r don't want puas in coalition gomen, pn as a whole wouldn't govern.

No one or party is indispensable. Even kutuk lost his parliament seat.

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QUOTE(fu'house @ May 30 2025, 08:52 PM)
In the end nons have to vote PMX again to secure porkmeat, gambling and beer.
If PuAS berkuasa later nons must pakai kopiah, non males cut deek, nons ladies cover every inch, no entertainment for everybody no concert no movies no beer at all no haram piggy meat no non halal eateries no Magnum to buy numbers.
Telan balik or ludah also have to vote PKR PMX even if hate it.
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if cut 2", later convert into islam, later can enjoice ASB, 7% house discount, easy access to IPTA, gomen jobs, etc

i mean, why not?

oh wai-

inb4 PuAS for all



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QUOTE(Zaryl @ May 30 2025, 09:26 PM)
if cut 2", later convert into islam, later can enjoice ASB, 7% house discount, easy access to IPTA, gomen jobs, etc

i mean, why not?

oh wai-

inb4 PuAS for all
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B40 are just funny. Among all groups, they are the least affected by petrol subsidy cuts. Give them more, they demand more.
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What u expect when a chunk of them voted for pn and remain steadfast loyal?

Just ignore them- preety sure they will stab each other back - moment anwar get them over.


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QUOTE(littlefire @ May 30 2025, 04:14 PM)
No need look far far, even Indonesia also cheaper as most of their agriculture is very mature.
When you got a lot of agriculture, no need import food = cheaper. Still if too much agriculture we also loss out to technology advancement & higher income so there are drawbacks also.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 30 2025, 05:04 PM)
Agriculture in Taiwan, Japan, us, EU, PRC, etc are advanced and technology is similarly advanced.

Legacy policies e.g nep in this country is detrimental to the people and country.
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Once i pernah tanya lecturer upm. He said that masa arwah pak lah nak naikkan industri petani, nelayan, agriculture tapi ramai yang bangkang

Now beras pun kita tak cukup...
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QUOTE(Satori 14118a @ May 30 2025, 06:05 PM)
Actually why b40 need petrol subsidy

Dah tak mampu naik public transport je la
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QUOTE(Catnip @ May 30 2025, 08:37 PM)
DS Najib removed subsidies before — so why the outrage back then? Why the agitation and street protests? Simple: the goal at the time was power. Agree?

Today, when it's their turn to cut subsidies, it's rebranded as "rationalization", supposedly to nurture rakyat self-reliance.

But “subsidy mentality” isn't the root problem. It's a convenient narrative,  carefully designed to deflect attention from the real issue: entrenched greed at the top.

Look closer: when subsidies are withdrawn, who suffers most?
Ordinary citizens: street sweepers, hawkers, working families.
And who continues to thrive?
Those living off government contracts, exclusive licenses, concessions — all forms of subsidy too, just hidden behind polished terms like “incentives,” “stimulus,” and “compensation.”


Want to preach self-reliance?
Start from the top. Slash ministerial perks. Dismantle monopolies. Abolish APs. Stop protecting Proton and Perodua. Open the markets.
Lead by example.


If not, it’s just the same old script; power teaching the people to tighten their belts, while the elite grow fat behind a curtain of nationalist slogans.

Some people are just too gullible; they parrot elite narratives without thinking, like brainless zombies.
As Tun Mahathir once said: "Orang Melayu mudah lupa."
That’s why it’s so easy to deceive, manipulate, and exploit them.

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I don't care about all the narrative from whichever side but for me it is the time to stop subsis. If not sampai generasi berapa nak hidup tongkat?
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ May 30 2025, 09:26 PM)
if cut 2", later convert into islam, later can enjoice ASB, 7% house discount, easy access to IPTA, gomen jobs, etc and join pas

i mean, why not?

oh wai-

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They want to reduce subsidy ok. But i need govt to be transparent what they do the money for.

And for them to pls stop channelling it to B40 like free handouts. Give more funds for education, health, public infra and public transports please. Think long term, not short term.

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ May 30 2025, 09:42 AM)
u promise petrol price turun immediately first day in office. then not only not turun, u want tarik subsidi making petrol more exp

ok fine. then u tell the ppl tarik subsidi bcoz beban hutang negara yang tinggi. then turn around u go donate millions to different countries in middle east, help palestine build hospitals and schools, then spend millions on flag badges for students, have 3 days nationwide roadshow for 100 days of your rule

macam mana rakyat x marah dik
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QUOTE(tekkaus @ May 30 2025, 07:47 PM)
Promise this and that...then almost all tak jadi! Ini namanya dah kena scam-med!

P.S.: Any manifesto really materialized or not?
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QUOTE(swanlover @ May 30 2025, 08:05 PM)
We all know some plp instead of bringing solid FDI in to prosper the countries for all… they decide to parang the rakyat and removed everything the rakyat deserved (very swiftly), yes we have debts but one can’nt doing that harshly with iron fists, which means suddenly everyone is suffering…
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QUOTE(Catnip @ May 30 2025, 08:37 PM)
DS Najib removed subsidies before — so why the outrage back then? Why the agitation and street protests? Simple: the goal at the time was power. Agree?

Today, when it's their turn to cut subsidies, it's rebranded as "rationalization", supposedly to nurture rakyat self-reliance.

But “subsidy mentality” isn't the root problem. It's a convenient narrative,  carefully designed to deflect attention from the real issue: entrenched greed at the top.

Look closer: when subsidies are withdrawn, who suffers most?
Ordinary citizens: street sweepers, hawkers, working families.
And who continues to thrive?
Those living off government contracts, exclusive licenses, concessions — all forms of subsidy too, just hidden behind polished terms like “incentives,” “stimulus,” and “compensation.”


Want to preach self-reliance?
Start from the top. Slash ministerial perks. Dismantle monopolies. Abolish APs. Stop protecting Proton and Perodua. Open the markets.
Lead by example.


If not, it’s just the same old script; power teaching the people to tighten their belts, while the elite grow fat behind a curtain of nationalist slogans.

Some people are just too gullible; they parrot elite narratives without thinking, like brainless zombies.
As Tun Mahathir once said: "Orang Melayu mudah lupa."
That’s why it’s so easy to deceive, manipulate, and exploit them.

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Neither pn or ph could secure majority in 222 seats parliament. Whoever wants to rule need support from s&s.

Never know umno may form coalition gomen with dap. BMX thought he has secured non votes is the same mistake najib thought s&s is bn fixed deposit.
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Check FB and Tik Tok , almost the same feedback. Next GE will be interesting.
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It is not subsidies that I'm not happy with. It's various unjusted and crime happening under madani.
The 50%, the appointment and continue appointment of "account adik aku", the kidnapping, his daughter, all these are very serious in my opinion.
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QUOTE(Catnip @ May 30 2025, 08:37 PM)
DS Najib removed subsidies before — so why the outrage back then? Why the agitation and street protests? Simple: the goal at the time was power. Agree?

Today, when it's their turn to cut subsidies, it's rebranded as "rationalization", supposedly to nurture rakyat self-reliance.

But “subsidy mentality” isn't the root problem. It's a convenient narrative,  carefully designed to deflect attention from the real issue: entrenched greed at the top.

Look closer: when subsidies are withdrawn, who suffers most?
Ordinary citizens: street sweepers, hawkers, working families.
And who continues to thrive?
Those living off government contracts, exclusive licenses, concessions — all forms of subsidy too, just hidden behind polished terms like “incentives,” “stimulus,” and “compensation.”


Want to preach self-reliance?
Start from the top. Slash ministerial perks. Dismantle monopolies. Abolish APs. Stop protecting Proton and Perodua. Open the markets.
Lead by example.


If not, it’s just the same old script; power teaching the people to tighten their belts, while the elite grow fat behind a curtain of nationalist slogans.

Some people are just too gullible; they parrot elite narratives without thinking, like brainless zombies.
As Tun Mahathir once said: "Orang Melayu mudah lupa."
That’s why it’s so easy to deceive, manipulate, and exploit them.

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Wow. If only ph leaders think like you and have guts and grit to fight for the rakyat. As it is all lallang swaying to the tune elites are playing.

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Unity government bukan election punya promise tapi DYMM yang suruh bergabung parti jadi kerajaan. Election dalam group parti dah dikira dah sebab dulu enemy sekarang day kawan. Siapa kata manifesto, janji dll semua dah tak bolek kira. Yang asyik membebel tu pergi tidor je...
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ May 31 2025, 08:13 AM)
Unity government bukan election punya promise tapi DYMM yang suruh bergabung parti jadi kerajaan. Election dalam group parti dah dikira dah sebab dulu enemy sekarang day kawan. Siapa kata manifesto, janji dll semua dah tak bolek kira. Yang asyik membebel tu pergi tidor je...
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DYMM suruh? U sure? Or DYMM proposed? Constitution stated where DYMM can suruh? And DYMM also suruh to bin election promises? Everything conveniently blame to DYMM. Why don't say DYMM suruh umno " jangan kacau ph biar reformasi.lu mati Lu. Mati"? Indirectly u implying DYMM responsible for pH bad governance?

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It is not subsidies that I'm not happy with. It's various unjusted and crime happening under madani.
The 50%, the appointment and continue appointment of "account adik aku", the kidnapping, his daughter, all these are very serious in my opinion.
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No different from all the other former political ruling parties ...all LPPL, wonder why we bother to vote even PAS will be the same ...
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No different from all the other former political ruling parties ...all LPPL, wonder why we bother to vote even PAS will be the same ...
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Agree, but do you want najib to rule continously? Do you not at least have some change?
The madani has fail my expectation, but I would still vote.
When all options are bad, we vote to at least disrupt them. Make them work for the money and trust they stole from you. Make them fight each other for it instead of simply grab what they want. Disrupt them.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 31 2025, 09:27 AM)
Agree, but do you want najib to rule continously? Do you not at least have some change?
The madani has fail my expectation, but I would still vote.
When all options are bad, we vote to at least disrupt them. Make them work for the money and trust they stole from you. Make them fight each other for it instead of simply grab what they want. Disrupt them.
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What changes have you seen till this hour? It all makes no different, all for their own pockets.
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QUOTE(etan26 @ May 31 2025, 09:29 AM)
What changes have you seen till this hour? It all makes no different, all for their own pockets.
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As unsatisfying as I am with madani, there are some differences when compared to najib's administration. Especially the earlier harapan gavernment. At the very least, they have to fight each other to steal our lunch money.
If you don't vote at all, things will be like ccp. Everything glorious leader say goes. People have no voice.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 31 2025, 09:55 AM)
As unsatisfying as I am with madani, there are some differences when compared to najib's administration. Especially the earlier harapan gavernment. At the very least, they have to fight each other to steal our lunch money.
If you don't vote at all, things will be like ccp. Everything glorious leader say goes. People have no voice.
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What makes you think currently it isn't? I never agree to international donations while we suffer here.
We voted him in yet he turns his back ....wtf....

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Some PM is doing a Robin Hood by robbing all of us here and feeding b40, gahment servant, Palestinian….(keep justifying they are doing the right things, yes right things for them..at our expense..Lolx)

Which means all of us here (that work our Ass off) need to pay dearly for these plp…

Really pity those hardworking hawkers , it’s all
Hard work for them…5/6/7 months with so many things taken away from them…

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QUOTE(swanlover @ May 31 2025, 10:12 AM)
Some PM is doing a Robin Hood by robbing all of us here and feeding b40, gahment servant, Palestinian….(keep justifying they are doing the right things, yes right things for them..at our expense..Lolx)

Which means all of us here (that work our Ass off) need to pay dearly for these plp…

Really pity those hardworking hawkers , it’s all
Hard work for them…5/6/7 months with so many things taken away from them…
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Poor b40. Losing big time if they think Robin Hood actually have their interest at heart. Robin Hoodsteal from the rich and powerful to give to the poor. But the rich say its OK cos we will tax the poor even more by raising prices. But Robin Hood say what the hell. As long as they still vote for Robin Hood.

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QUOTE(etan26 @ May 31 2025, 10:01 AM)
What makes you think currently it isn't? I never agree to international donations while we suffer here.
We voted him in yet he turns his back ....wtf....
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I do not disagree with you. We vote for him for a purpose. It's done. His actions and betrayal have shown to us that his function has been fulfilled and it's time for us to vote him out.
He was the obvious choice back then, it does not have to be next round. But it is important for us to not give up our voting right.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 31 2025, 10:24 AM)
I do not disagree with you. We vote for him for a purpose. It's done. His actions and betrayal have shown to us that his function has been fulfilled and it's time for us to vote him out.
He was the obvious choice back then, it does not have to be next round. But it is important for us to not give up our voting right.
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I have been voting for the past 11 GEs, it's so tiring when the promises are there but we kena back stab time & again.
It's now for the young Gen to pick their future.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 31 2025, 09:27 AM)
Agree, but do you want najib to rule continously? Do you not at least have some change?
The madani has fail my expectation, but I would still vote.
When all options are bad, we vote to at least disrupt them. Make them work for the money and trust they stole from you. Make them fight each other for it instead of simply grab what they want. Disrupt them.
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You aware where all this is heading ultimately right. It's Helangs vs pipit . Goliath vs David. Can pipits outsmart and outmanouvre Helangs? Disrupt is one of the strategies.
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Increase taxes here and there... But hutang negara still naik..

I think removing subsidi give them more to songlap la.
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Increase taxes here and there... But hutang negara still naik..

I think removing subsidi give them more to songlap la.
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Removing everything but the debt going up. Where the money go?

The money is not flowing in the market as expected. Where it flow?
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 31 2025, 08:22 AM)
DYMM suruh? U sure? Or DYMM proposed? Constitution stated where DYMM can suruh? And DYMM also suruh to bin election  promises?  Everything conveniently blame to DYMM. Why don't say  DYMM suruh  umno " jangan kacau ph biar reformasi.lu mati Lu. Mati"? Indirectly u implying DYMM responsible for pH bad governance?
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Kalau tak ada suruh mana ada madani. LoL. Saya tak kata madani gagal sebab yang semua sebelum ni pun gagal.
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QUOTE(etan26 @ May 31 2025, 10:29 AM)
I have been voting for the past 11 GEs, it's so tiring when the promises are there but we kena back stab time & again.
It's now for the young Gen to pick their future.
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The previous harapan younger cabinet looks "hopeful", too bad the top is old and bitter.
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 31 2025, 10:34 AM)
You aware where all this is heading ultimately right. It's  Helangs vs pipit . Goliath vs David. Can pipits outsmart and outmanouvre Helangs?  Disrupt is one of the strategies.
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Yeah, the helang will win. All I can do is to make them work for it instead of presenting it on a silver plate.
Best is to see them fight with each other.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 31 2025, 05:29 PM)
The previous harapan younger cabinet looks "hopeful", too bad the top is old and bitter.
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That's because the previous one got majority and no need to form a coalition

Madani need to compromise
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QUOTE(fu'house @ May 30 2025, 08:52 PM)
In the end nons have to vote PMX again to secure porkmeat, gambling and beer.
If PuAS berkuasa later nons must pakai kopiah, non males cut deek, nons ladies cover every inch, no entertainment for everybody no concert no movies no beer at all no haram piggy meat no non halal eateries no Magnum to buy numbers.
Telan balik or ludah also have to vote PKR PMX even if hate it.
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Thats like your worthless opinion.

I am nons and i sure as hell aint voting for PH next GE.

If im still feeling spiteful i will vote PuAS/PN for the heck of it. Otherwise i will just undi rosak.

I used to be alone with this kind of thinking 1 to 2 years back and always kena attacked by PHcais and PHdogs.. but nowadays im not alone that thinks like this, just look at the opinions of so called liberal platform like twitter and threads you will know that im no longer in the minority who thinks like this..

If you think majority nons will die die still vote PH you are going to be in for a shocker.. Just like how PH surprisedpikchu when they lost 2/3rd majority in Dewan Negeri...

Heck just look at the tered on kopitiam few days ago about who ktard gonna be voting for and you can see support for PH cant even reach at least 50%.. and this lowyat we talking about where majority of its userbase are nons..

Couple that with malays going more right despite Madanon's politiking attempts to appease them which he ultimately failed at it and at same time drove out many existing PH voters. Bang Non gonna be PM sepenggal and i will do my part to ensure it is such.

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ May 31 2025, 04:56 PM)
Thats like your worthless opinion.

I am nons and i sure as hell aint voting for PH next GE.

If im still feeling spiteful i will vote PuAS/PN for the heck of it. Otherwise i will just undi rosak.

I used to be alone with this kind of thinking 1 to 2 years back and always kena attacked by PHcais and PHdogs.. but nowadays im not alone that thinks like this, just look at the opinions of so called liberal platform like twitter and threads you will know that im no longer in the minority who thinks like this..

If you think majority nons will die die still vote PH you are going to be in for a shocker.. Just like how PH surprisedpikchu when they lost 2/3rd majority in Dewan Negeri...

Heck just look at the tered on kopitiam few days ago about who ktard gonna be voting for and you can see support for PH cant even reach at least 50%.. and this lowyat we talking about where majority of its userbase are nons..

Couple that with malays going more right despite Madanon's politiking attempts to appease them which he ultimately failed at it and at same time drove out many existing PH voters. Bang Non gonna be PM sepenggal and i will do my part to ensure it is such.
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No need undi pas, sure got some undi bebas one.
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No need undi pas, sure got some undi bebas one.
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Yes, point being we are doing it to disrupt the system. To show PH that they are delulu if they think nons votes are secured for them and nons are stuck with the "asal bukan PuAS" narrative, to show PH we are not afraid of NOT voting them.

Some of us would double down out of spite on the scare and vote for PuAS (atm, im in this boat), some of us would undi bebas calon, some of us would undi rosak, while some would rather goyang kaki at home. All ways of showing it are valid and welcome. thumbsup.gif

Fuck PHcais and PHdogs for thinking nons votes are their vote bank lulz.
This is the same arrogance of BN thinking S&S is their safe deposit, and such arrogance will be duly punished by the voters. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ May 31 2025, 05:44 PM)
Yes, point being we are doing it to disrupt the system. To show PH that they are delulu if they think nons votes are secured for them and nons are stuck with the "asal bukan PuAS" narrative, to show PH we are not afraid of NOT voting them.

Some of us would double down out of spite on the scare and vote for PuAS (atm, im in this boat), some of us would undi bebas calon, some of us would undi rosak, while some would rather goyang kaki at home. All ways of showing it are valid and welcome.  thumbsup.gif

Fuck PHcais and PHdogs for thinking nons votes are their vote bank lulz.
This is the same arrogance of BN thinking S&S is their safe deposit, and such arrogance will be duly punished by the voters.  biggrin.gif
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Those goyang kaki at home group are growing. Try to read the news and the comments below.


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QUOTE(hirano @ May 31 2025, 06:53 AM)
They want to reduce subsidy ok. But i need govt to be transparent what they do the money for.

And for them to pls stop channelling it to B40 like free handouts. Give more funds for education, health, public infra and public transports please. Think long term, not short term.
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if they move all the cash handouts like bantuan rahmah into my sara, use IC to buy groceries then i'm ok with it

QUOTE(Optizorb @ May 31 2025, 04:56 PM)
Thats like your worthless opinion.

I am nons and i sure as hell aint voting for PH next GE.

If im still feeling spiteful i will vote PuAS/PN for the heck of it. Otherwise i will just undi rosak.

I used to be alone with this kind of thinking 1 to 2 years back and always kena attacked by PHcais and PHdogs.. but nowadays im not alone that thinks like this, just look at the opinions of so called liberal platform like twitter and threads you will know that im no longer in the minority who thinks like this..

If you think majority nons will die die still vote PH you are going to be in for a shocker.. Just like how PH surprisedpikchu when they lost 2/3rd majority in Dewan Negeri...

Heck just look at the tered on kopitiam few days ago about who ktard gonna be voting for and you can see support for PH cant even reach at least 50%.. and this lowyat we talking about where majority of its userbase are nons..

Couple that with malays going more right despite Madanon's politiking attempts to appease them which he ultimately failed at it and at same time drove out many existing PH voters. Bang Non gonna be PM sepenggal and i will do my part to ensure it is such.
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The funny thing about PKR election shouting reformasi reformasi, then Azam Baki still sitting there as MACC chief with blessing of PMX.

Then Rafizi spitting out the truth that PH is losing the confidence of the nons, most of the PKR still vote for Nurul Izzah. PKR can maintain 30 seats in next election also consider is a blessing. I'm not surprise PN will win even more seat than before in next election.

QUOTE(Optizorb @ May 31 2025, 05:44 PM)
Yes, point being we are doing it to disrupt the system. To show PH that they are delulu if they think nons votes are secured for them and nons are stuck with the "asal bukan PuAS" narrative, to show PH we are not afraid of NOT voting them.

Some of us would double down out of spite on the scare and vote for PuAS (atm, im in this boat), some of us would undi bebas calon, some of us would undi rosak, while some would rather goyang kaki at home. All ways of showing it are valid and welcome.  thumbsup.gif

Fuck PHcais and PHdogs for thinking nons votes are their vote bank lulz.
This is the same arrogance of BN thinking S&S is their safe deposit, and such arrogance will be duly punished by the voters.  biggrin.gif
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Cakap pannai lah PH, when implement policy all lagi more religious than PAS, just look at the concert guideline cukup liao, so freaking more stringent than before. U see blackpink concert, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, Phillipines semua ada except Malaysia, that alone already indicate a lot of things.


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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ May 31 2025, 05:08 AM)
I don't care about all the narrative from whichever side but for me it is the time to stop subsis. If not sampai generasi berapa nak hidup tongkat?
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So you think stopping all subsidies = instant progress?
Even so-called "advanced" countries subsidize their citizens. They don’t just leave them to rot in the name of “self-reliance”.

USA
  • SNAP (food stamps): Over 41 million people rely on it.
  • Section 8 housing: Rent support for the poor.
  • Medicaid: Subsidized healthcare for low-income families.
  • Farm subsidies: Billions handed to Big Agri yearly.
UK
  • Universal Credit: Monthly income support.
  • NHS: Free healthcare, funded by taxes.
  • Energy subsidies: Govt caps household bills during crises.
Germany
  • Bürgergeld: Unemployment support.
  • Kindergeld: Monthly allowance per child, even for the middle class.
So don’t come with “sampai bila nak bertongkat?” when even rich nations prop up their people. That’s not tongkat — it’s a social contract. A nation isn’t a corporation. It has a duty to protect its weakest, not just reward the rich.

Now ask yourself:
Why are you fine with cronies living on government sugar, but angry when the rakyat gets rice?

You call it “rationalization”? Nah. If it starts at the bottom, while the top stays bloated — it’s just economic cruelty in a PR suit.

Let’s talk real tongkats:
  • APs for cronies
  • No open tender for mega projects
  • National car protectionism that burdens rakyat with overpriced tin cans
  • Ministerial perks + gaji pencen ganda
  • GLC bailouts while rakyat gets price hikes
Subsidies? The elites still get them — they’re just called “incentives”, “compensation”, “stimulus”, or “strategic allocations.”

Want “self-reliance”?
Start by chopping down golden canes before kicking the rakyat’s crutches.

So instead of asking,

“Sampai bila rakyat nak tongkat?”
try this:
“Sampai bila sistem nak jadi berat sebelah?”

Until then, don’t pretend it's about teaching the rakyat to stand.
Don’t preach survival-of-the-fittest when the game is rigged; you just want to kick away the poor’s walking stick while polishing the elite’s golden cane. wink.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 1 2025, 01:14 AM)
if they move all the cash handouts like bantuan rahmah into my sara, use IC to buy groceries then i'm ok with it
The funny thing about PKR election shouting reformasi reformasi, then Azam Baki still sitting there as MACC chief with blessing of PMX.

Then Rafizi spitting out the truth that PH is losing the confidence of the nons, most of the PKR still vote for Nurul Izzah. PKR can maintain 30 seats in next election also consider is a blessing. I'm not surprise PN will win even more seat than before in next election.
Cakap pannai lah PH, when implement policy all lagi more religious than PAS, just look at the concert guideline cukup liao, so freaking more stringent than before. U see blackpink concert, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, Phillipines semua ada except Malaysia, that alone already indicate a lot of things.
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what to do.. Anwar is Bapa Islamization of Malaysia after all.. Thanks to him our aweks no longer freehair, less liberal, JAKIM powers increased, etc etc..
I guess many late Gen X to Gen Y PH voters did not know this before, myself included.. That's why many support and voted for PMX in GE2018 and GE2022 and believe in his Reformasi.. The Reformasi we are thinking of is clearly not the same Reformasi that PMX have in mind.. In that sense, PMX is returning to his roots like in the early 90s.. Islamic principles have always been the core guideline of his structure/the way he does things..

Anyway, PMX and PKR being rubbish is one thing. But what i find most offensive as a PH voter is the deafening silence and inaction of DAP. The party that singlehandedly won the most amount of seats compared to all other parties.. They can and should be able to easily fire back at Akmal and tell him to STFU but instead lets Akmal trample all over them like some undignified anjing kurap.. Even MCA didn't kena humiliated like this before.. DAP the party that won the most seats but acting like they barely scraped by winning 1 or 2 seats only.. Fuck, even MCA also can trample all over them la. Just look at the MyKiosk issue..

DAP and its leaders are so damn weak. As for their ministers, lagi no need say la.. Loke 7 is one useless fuck, Nga is one joker. Hannah Yeoh no comment not great not bad either, overall just cukup2 makan.. and Gobind who was doing so well previously got relegated to a useless Digital Minister post which doesn't allow him to function at all.. Only saving grace is Steven Sim that can do work, otherwise DAP will get a 0 out of 5 scoring. If this is their level of quality as ministers, baik jadi opposition je la.

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B40 and M40 complain only

T20 no fuck given also
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B40 and M40 complain only

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So you think stopping all subsidies = instant progress?
Even so-called "advanced" countries subsidize their citizens. They don’t just leave them to rot in the name of “self-reliance”.

USA

  • SNAP (food stamps): Over 41 million people rely on it.
  • Section 8 housing: Rent support for the poor.
  • Medicaid: Subsidized healthcare for low-income families.
  • Farm subsidies: Billions handed to Big Agri yearly.
UK

  • Universal Credit: Monthly income support.
  • NHS: Free healthcare, funded by taxes.
  • Energy subsidies: Govt caps household bills during crises.
Germany

  • Bürgergeld: Unemployment support.
  • Kindergeld: Monthly allowance per child, even for the middle class.
So don’t come with “sampai bila nak bertongkat?” when even rich nations prop up their people. That’s not tongkat — it’s a social contract. A nation isn’t a corporation. It has a duty to protect its weakest, not just reward the rich.

Now ask yourself:
Why are you fine with cronies living on government sugar, but angry when the rakyat gets rice?

You call it “rationalization”? Nah. If it starts at the bottom, while the top stays bloated — it’s just economic cruelty in a PR suit.

Let’s talk real tongkats:

  • APs for cronies
  • No open tender for mega projects
  • National car protectionism that burdens rakyat with overpriced tin cans
  • Ministerial perks + gaji pencen ganda
  • GLC bailouts while rakyat gets price hikes
Subsidies? The elites still get them — they’re just called “incentives”, “compensation”, “stimulus”, or “strategic allocations.”

Want “self-reliance”?
Start by chopping down golden canes before kicking the rakyat’s crutches.

So instead of asking,

“Sampai bila rakyat nak tongkat?”
try this:
“Sampai bila sistem nak jadi berat sebelah?”

Until then, don’t pretend it's about teaching the rakyat to stand.
Don’t preach survival-of-the-fittest when the game is rigged; you just want to kick away the poor’s walking stick while polishing the elite’s golden cane. wink.gif
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what to do.. Anwar is Bapa Islamization of Malaysia after all.. Thanks to him our aweks no longer freehair, less liberal, JAKIM powers increased, etc etc.. 
I guess many late Gen X to Gen Y PH voters did not know this before, myself included.. That's why many support and voted for PMX in GE2018 and GE2022 and believe in his Reformasi.. The Reformasi we are thinking of is clearly not the same Reformasi that PMX have in mind.. In that sense, PMX is returning to his roots like in the early 90s.. Islamic principles have always been the core guideline of his structure/the way he does things..

Anyway, PMX and PKR being rubbish is one thing. But what i find most offensive as a PH voter is the deafening silence and inaction of DAP. The party that singlehandedly won the most amount of seats compared to all other parties.. They can and should be able to easily fire back at Akmal and tell him to STFU but instead lets Akmal trample all over them like some undignified anjing kurap.. Even MCA didn't kena humiliated like this before.. DAP the party that won the most seats but acting like they barely scraped by winning 1 or 2 seats only.. Fuck, even MCA also can trample all over them la. Just look at the MyKiosk issue..

DAP and its leaders are so damn weak. As for their ministers, lagi no need say la.. Loke 7 is one useless fuck, Nga is one joker. Hannah Yeoh no comment not great not bad either, overall just cukup2 makan.. and Gobind who was doing so well previously got relegated to a useless Digital Minister post which doesn't allow him to function at all.. Only saving grace is Steven Sim that can do work, otherwise DAP will get a 0 out of 5 scoring. If this is their level of quality as ministers, baik jadi opposition je la.
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Being given power is actually a test. Dap thought it's a privilege and promotion. Clearly they fail the test.

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Being given power is actually a test. Dap thought it's a privilege and promotion. Clearly they fail the test.
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BMX assigned unimportant ministry to dap, a raw deal. In next ge, neither pH nor pn will likely win majority seats; dap should stand on its own and bargain hard before joining coalition.

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what to do.. Anwar is Bapa Islamization of Malaysia after all.. Thanks to him our aweks no longer freehair, less liberal, JAKIM powers increased, etc etc.. 
I guess many late Gen X to Gen Y PH voters did not know this before, myself included.. That's why many support and voted for PMX in GE2018 and GE2022 and believe in his Reformasi.. The Reformasi we are thinking of is clearly not the same Reformasi that PMX have in mind.. In that sense, PMX is returning to his roots like in the early 90s.. Islamic principles have always been the core guideline of his structure/the way he does things..

Anyway, PMX and PKR being rubbish is one thing. But what i find most offensive as a PH voter is the deafening silence and inaction of DAP. The party that singlehandedly won the most amount of seats compared to all other parties.. They can and should be able to easily fire back at Akmal and tell him to STFU but instead lets Akmal trample all over them like some undignified anjing kurap.. Even MCA didn't kena humiliated like this before.. DAP the party that won the most seats but acting like they barely scraped by winning 1 or 2 seats only.. Fuck, even MCA also can trample all over them la. Just look at the MyKiosk issue..

DAP and its leaders are so damn weak. As for their ministers, lagi no need say la.. Loke 7 is one useless fuck, Nga is one joker. Hannah Yeoh no comment not great not bad either, overall just cukup2 makan.. and Gobind who was doing so well previously got relegated to a useless Digital Minister post which doesn't allow him to function at all.. Only saving grace is Steven Sim that can do work, otherwise DAP will get a 0 out of 5 scoring. If this is their level of quality as ministers, baik jadi opposition je la.
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PM in this country is all powerful and ministers are bound by cabinet decision whether happy or not. Dap ministers couldn't make any negative comments except privately.

BMX should loss his parliament seat like kutuk.

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Madani is over doing it .... step by step laa .....
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first gst
then sst
then lvg
then hvg
then sst again

now dig out all old stamp duties to saman

then will be einvoice saman

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Wanna do subsidy rationalisation for normal citizens but at the same time can spend billions to bailout cronies like Sapura.

Of course la ppl bising.

Only sohai will keep quiet.
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BMX assigned unimportant ministry to dap, a raw deal. In next ge, neither pH nor pn will likely win majority seats; dap should stand on its own and bargain hard before joining coalition.
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DAP is MCA already, no different both running dogs.
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about subsidy rationalization.
you can see in the comments in fb, insta tiktok youtube that people hating so much on gov madani and especially pmx when gov announce about cutting the subsis or subsidy rationalization.

subsidy rationalization is to make sure that B40 and the people who really need help get the help.
when gov cutting the subsis, there will be an increase price especially in f&b. when f&b raises it prices, they blame the gov.

so, actually what do they want?
bangun tido, makan, goyang telur, tido?
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Removing everything but the debt going up. Where the money go?

The money is not flowing in the market as expected. Where it flow?
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That is the problem with Madani.. when ppl questioned them, they marah pulak.

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In next ge, non shouldn't vote for pkr.

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Thats like your worthless opinion.
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Don't taip so long lah everybody know you anjjer Bee End jilat Najib kerajaan lama.


You are worthless POS with your long winded crap.


Always a blind supporter of Bee End must be eating so much $$$ from last time. Who will expect a loyal anjjer of Bee End vote correctly.


Hope PuAS tame your non-ness liar.
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QUOTE(fu'house @ Jun 1 2025, 07:16 PM)
Don't taip so long lah everybody know you anjjer Bee End jilat Najib kerajaan lama.
You are worthless POS with your long winded crap.
Always a blind supporter of Bee End must be eating so much $$$ from last time. Who will expect a loyal anjjer of Bee End vote correctly.
Hope PuAS tame your non-ness liar.
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Is this stupidity level of PHcais and PHdogs...?

If I am a blind BN supporter I will be supporting PH because BN is also part of unity gov..?
If I am a blind BN supporter, I will not be going against unity gov at all...?
If I am a blind BN supporter, why in the ever loving fuck would i want to vote for PuAS....?

If I am planning to vote for PN/PuAS next GE, how does that make me a BN jilater.....?
What if I tell you next GE i going to either undi rosak or goyang kaki at home during election day to not vote for anyone..

If you called me a PuAS jilater also at least will make sense a bit since i did say im going to vote for PuAS out of spite..

But what has me either voting PuAS, undi rosak, or goyang kaki at home got to do with supporting BN even.....??



God damn PHcais and PHdogs with their room temperature IQ.. Never think before you start yapping nonsense?
Oh wait, PHcais and PHdogs memang pun now same level kebodohan as BN macais used to be... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(fu'house @ Jun 1 2025, 07:16 PM)
Don't taip so long lah everybody know you anjjer Bee End jilat Najib kerajaan lama.
You are worthless POS with your long winded crap.
Always a blind supporter of Bee End must be eating so much $$$ from last time. Who will expect a loyal anjjer of Bee End vote correctly.
Hope PuAS tame your non-ness liar.
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Here we go!!! Name calling starts liao… 😬😬😬😬😬
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Let's be clear. Voting for a legal political party is a constitutional right of each person and can never incurr reproach since we are accorded this by the constitution. Hence every one is entitled to vote freely without prejudiced and not be condemned for it. This is freedom of association.
What we are entitled to criticise and chastise are political parties and leaders for their stance and actions.
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He should do like Gorbin, LGE and Loke era, where toll turun, petrol turun etc
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He should do like Gorbin, LGE and Loke era, where toll turun, petrol turun etc
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That cos Atuk 2.0 is in charge. He runs a tight ship
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 1 2025, 07:48 PM)
Is this stupidity level of PHcais and PHdogs...?

If I am a blind BN supporter I will be supporting PH because BN is also part of unity gov..?
If I am a blind BN supporter, I will not be going against unity gov at all...?
If I am a blind BN supporter, why in the ever loving fuck would i want to vote for PuAS....?

If I am planning to vote for PN/PuAS next GE, how does that make me a BN jilater.....?
What if I tell you next GE i going to either undi rosak or goyang kaki at home during election day to not vote for anyone..

If you called me a PuAS jilater also at least will make sense a bit since i did say im going to vote for PuAS out of spite..

But what has me either voting PuAS, undi rosak, or goyang kaki at home got to do with supporting BN even.....??
God damn PHcais and PHdogs with their room temperature IQ.. Never think before you start yapping nonsense?
Oh wait, PHcais and PHdogs memang pun now same level kebodohan as BN macais used to be...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Tldr won't read a mad Bee End anjjer rambling. Once a loyal trooper always sucking up old regime @5s like now so buttttttthurt hahahaha.
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QUOTE(fu'house @ Jun 1 2025, 11:52 PM)
Tldr won't read a mad Bee End anjjer rambling. Once a loyal trooper always sucking up old regime @5s like now so buttttttthurt hahahaha.
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 1 2025, 03:32 AM)
what to do.. Anwar is Bapa Islamization of Malaysia after all.. Thanks to him our aweks no longer freehair, less liberal, JAKIM powers increased, etc etc.. 
I guess many late Gen X to Gen Y PH voters did not know this before, myself included.. That's why many support and voted for PMX in GE2018 and GE2022 and believe in his Reformasi.. The Reformasi we are thinking of is clearly not the same Reformasi that PMX have in mind.. In that sense, PMX is returning to his roots like in the early 90s.. Islamic principles have always been the core guideline of his structure/the way he does things..

Anyway, PMX and PKR being rubbish is one thing. But what i find most offensive as a PH voter is the deafening silence and inaction of DAP. The party that singlehandedly won the most amount of seats compared to all other parties.. They can and should be able to easily fire back at Akmal and tell him to STFU but instead lets Akmal trample all over them like some undignified anjing kurap.. Even MCA didn't kena humiliated like this before.. DAP the party that won the most seats but acting like they barely scraped by winning 1 or 2 seats only.. Fuck, even MCA also can trample all over them la. Just look at the MyKiosk issue..

DAP and its leaders are so damn weak. As for their ministers, lagi no need say la.. Loke 7 is one useless fuck, Nga is one joker. Hannah Yeoh no comment not great not bad either, overall just cukup2 makan.. and Gobind who was doing so well previously got relegated to a useless Digital Minister post which doesn't allow him to function at all.. Only saving grace is Steven Sim that can do work, otherwise DAP will get a 0 out of 5 scoring. If this is their level of quality as ministers, baik jadi opposition je la.
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If you have friends who work in Putrajaya, you will know how clown PH run its ministries. Sure things UMNO is corrupt, but when UMNO hold the ministries, they will grip the power and kept everyone in line. The problem with PH is that their ministries is just like a cow and clueless as shit + trying to please everyone. I could easily tell that most Putrajaya folks are not in favour with PH at all after multiple clown act.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 1 2025, 01:14 AM)
Cakap pannai lah PH, when implement policy all lagi more religious than PAS, just look at the concert guideline cukup liao, so freaking more stringent than before. U see blackpink concert, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, Phillipines semua ada except Malaysia, that alone already indicate a lot of things.
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speaking of kpop concerts.. kecian gidle concert kena cancelled

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Rakyat marah....sebelum menang janji itu ini....lepas menang satu lanjiao pun tarak buat
Overconfident mcm najib tutup mata bole menang next pru...
Jgn terkincin suda lar

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That cos Atuk 2.0 is in charge.  He runs a tight ship
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National level, debt increases, leakages status quo, wastage status quo, tax flip-flops, freedom of speech index declined, etc.

Personal level, buying power decreases by inflation, stagflation.
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jun 2 2025, 06:58 AM)
It was all caused by evil atuk 1.0, and then he terminated the 2.0 prematurely when things started to get bad to his cronies
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Atuk 2.0 was never evil. He has repented and was back to save us, remember? 😎😎😎😎😎 look at how many DAP fellas preaching this and how many fella kena hentam for distrusting DAP decision then by -#undi_rosak.

And Atuk 2.0 did prematurely terminated his tenure. He was forced openly to cede to numba-man. Numba-man via his gang taikor or otai reformasi and also I think some of the DAP guys. Remember the shouting match recordings of some supposedly son of tiger during one of their meetings. Do remember that one of tiger dotter voiced her disapproval of working with Atuk and was also chastised by her party leaders!

I am not sure about ur age but when PKR was under Azmin, it was peaceful and functioned as a political party. But when someone was released and took over, all sort of troubles arises after that. Almost like the troubles that you can see today in PKR and unity gov in terms of party memberships and leaders. And who is the ONE person who is responsible for that? Take a guess. It is very difficult to be wrong with your answer. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 2 2025, 03:20 AM)
speaking of kpop concerts.. kecian gidle concert kena cancelled

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Hawker very Cham this month, gas and fuel sub gone, envoicing, and their workers need to run with tons of operasi gasak..four direction attacks…

For sure their noodles/rice need to up by 3-5 bucks to stay afloat ..Tq to Madonna for the care of the b40…

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 2 2025, 08:03 AM)
Atuk 2.0 was never evil.  He has repented and was back to save us, remember?  😎😎😎😎😎 look at how many DAP fellas preaching this and how many fella kena hentam for distrusting DAP decision then by -#undi_rosak. 

And Atuk 2.0 did prematurely terminated his tenure.  He was forced openly to cede to numba-man.  Numba-man via his gang taikor or otai reformasi and also I think some of the DAP guys.  Remember the shouting match recordings of some supposedly son of tiger during one of their meetings.  Do remember that one of tiger dotter voiced her disapproval of working with Atuk and was also chastised by her party leaders!

I am not sure about ur age but when PKR was under Azmin, it was peaceful and functioned as a political party.  But when someone was released and took over, all sort of troubles arises after that.  Almost like the troubles that you can see today in PKR and unity gov in terms of party memberships and leaders.  And who is the ONE person who is responsible for that?  Take a guess.  It is very difficult to be wrong with your answer.  😂😂😂😂😂😂
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A man who main belakaing number man, main belakang his own 2.0 is not evil.... kek
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jun 2 2025, 09:24 AM)
A man who main belakaing number man, main belakang his own 2.0 is not evil.... kek
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Becareful this one. Some are just too good actors.
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Everyday make noise said gomen had no money left, debt too much. But things there were never bother to solve.

1. Make GST
2. Make PTPTN loaner payback asap. This debt are even higher than 1mdb
3. Make drastic action towards Sabah MB, since rasuah like open secret. Heck not even have ball to do it.
4. Sarawak oil, since had Law, why not just make both parties sit down and drastic changes using law?
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Just ask yourself this: are you and the peoples around you having a better life now financially then before?

You know the answer and vote accordingly next GE
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 30 2025, 09:37 AM)
before jadi gov, say BN is 'barang naik'

jadi gov, PH become 'pasti naik'
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jun 2 2025, 09:24 AM)
A man who main belakaing number man, main belakang his own 2.0 is not evil.... kek
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Well, he was never evil cos he is back to save Mesia…. How can an evil person save Mesia then? Would u vote for an evil person? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 2 2025, 10:46 AM)
Well, he was never evil cos he is back to save Mesia…. How can an evil person save Mesia then?  Would u vote for an evil person?  🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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He was trying to rectify his own 1.0 evils, and tried to nominate good and capable peoples, but at the end played evil 2.0 again by main belakang 2.0.
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He was trying to rectify his own 1.0 evils, and tried to nominate good and capable peoples, but at the end played evil 2.0 again by main belakang 2.0.
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So was he evil at 2.0? If he was, then those who voted for him must be idiots. And those who saw through him and opted for #undi_rosak are the smart guys? And even DAP with so many brilliant leaders are so stupid to believe him, having accused him of so many evil stuff? Interesting questions to ponder, no?
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Just ask yourself this: are you and the peoples around you having a better life now financially then before?

You know the answer and vote accordingly next GE
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That cos Atuk 2.0 is in charge.  He runs a tight ship
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 2 2025, 11:12 AM)
So was he evil at 2.0?  If he was, then those who voted for him must be idiots.  And those who saw through him and opted for #undi_rosak are the smart guys?  And even DAP with so many brilliant leaders are so stupid to believe him, having accused him of so many evil stuff?  Interesting questions to ponder, no?
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Because there was another evil during that time.

They thought 2.0 was insaf because promised to transition of power after 2 years, but in fact he main belakang again.
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Because there was another evil during that time.

They thought 2.0 was insaf because promised to transition of power after 2 years, but in fact he main belakang again.
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Ok. If their judgement of character is so bad, makes you think if their choice currently is also another mistakes. This current has exhibited all the same traits when he was ABIM and BN1.0. Oh, correction, he did not have any nepotism but then his kids were like schooling age in ‘98. Hahahaha
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Ok.  If their judgement of character is so bad, makes you think if their choice currently is also another mistakes.  This current has exhibited all the same traits when he was ABIM and BN1.0.  Oh, correction,  he did not have any nepotism but then his kids were like schooling age in ‘98.  Hahahaha
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If you have friends who work in Putrajaya, you will know how clown PH run its ministries. Sure things UMNO is corrupt, but when UMNO hold the ministries, they will grip the power and kept everyone in line. The problem with PH is that their ministries is just like a cow and clueless as shit + trying to please everyone. I could easily tell that most Putrajaya folks are not in favour with PH at all after multiple clown act.
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Just ask yourself this: are you and the peoples around you having a better life now financially then before?

You know the answer and vote accordingly next GE
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But your financial life won't be affected for good or for bad if every year tukar pun

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I don't mind changing gov every GE or even every year
But your financial life won't be affected for good or for bad if every year tukar pun
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Kalau tukar kerajaan tiap tahun pun tak ubah nasib rakyat, itu tandanya bukan kerajaan yang gagal — tapi sistem yang dah lama reput, penuh dengan parasit dan penjilat. Nak harap tukar baju tiap tahun tapi badan busuk tak mandi, memang bau tetap hapak.  nod.gif
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in our case, there are 2 factors

no 1 is the broken system created by umgok's decades of rule that favors warlords and loyalty towards individual rather than capability and ideas

no 2 is, bcoz of how the system is structured, it prevents ppl who truly wants improvements to be completely sidelined and is unable to rise up. therfore we don't see a lot of good choices available for the voters

now that bang nuar has completely forgotten his reformasi chants, no matter who be the next pm, we are still farked either way

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Pmx is very weak need to compromise, kawtim and play lots of political games to survive. If he take actions against corrupt umno, he will be xpm. If he help Petronas in Sarawak, he will be xpm. If he ask macc to catch those corrupt Sabah leaders, he will be xpm. If he didn't follow Dap wishes, he will be xpm. Now if Rafizi do something crazy and ditch PKR, confirm he will be xpm. Pn people now eating popcorn and keropok lekor watching all these drama, especially with that court case coming up this month. I wonder why Puas didn't kowtow to pmx and support him... They could have received full royalty payment for Terengganu if they did that. I guess not everything is for sale.

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Pmx is very weak need to compromise, kawtim and play lots of political games to survive. If he take actions against corrupt umno, he will be xpm. If he help Petronas in Sarawak, he will be xpm. If he ask macc to catch those corrupt Sabah leaders, he will be xpm. If he didn't follow Dap wishes, he will be xpm. Now I'd Rafizi do something crazy and ditch PKR, confirm he will be xpm. Puas people now eating popcorn and keropok lekor watching all these drama, especially with that court case coming up this month. I wonder why Puas didn't kowtow to pmx and support him... They could have received full royalty payment for Terengganu if they did that. I guess not everything is for sale.
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The worse part is that this weakness and compromising is not temporary but evolving to be a long term feature of pH seeing they are unable to find a a way to move forward politically except to rely on umno. So the sobering unpleasant truth is " undi ph dapat umno. Dapat umno dapat Songlap, korupsi and abuse of power + wayang unlimited"


Truth is unity govt was birthed out of an " unholy Union". That is why we see the offsprings are all bastards. Even PAS kalah to this first time pelacur.

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QUOTE(cycheah @ May 30 2025, 07:50 PM)
whoever promise also the same... no matter is PN or BN or PH... to reform isn't an easy task. if suddenly make a drastic change... certain puak sure not happy. if too sayang 1 puak, other puak sure flip table. not easy matter yo

  1 good reason is to let them know that no gov can permanently stay forever. parties will sure crosscheck each other. next election PH probably will lose support... i forsee
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Kalau tukar kerajaan tiap tahun pun tak ubah nasib rakyat, itu tandanya bukan kerajaan yang gagal — tapi sistem yang dah lama reput, penuh dengan parasit dan penjilat. Nak harap tukar baju tiap tahun tapi badan busuk tak mandi, memang bau tetap hapak.  nod.gif
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jun 3 2025, 06:08 AM)
in our case, there are 2 factors

no 1 is the broken system created by umgok's decades of rule that favors warlords and loyalty towards individual rather than capability and ideas

no 2 is, bcoz of how the system is structured, it prevents ppl who truly wants improvements to be completely sidelined and is unable to rise up. therfore we don't see a lot of good choices available for the voters

now that bang nuar has completely forgotten his reformasi chants, no matter who be the next pm, we are still farked either way
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we are going towards that
but at this moment, what other candidates we have to vote for?
pass?
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jun 3 2025, 09:32 AM)
Yes, a lot of people did not knew that this is unity government. If one single puak not happy and redraw, the current goverment will fall, so how to reform? Those opposition keep on harping on this issue, but those which got intellectual will know the difficulties.
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Are you sure? So far we only see umno threatening to withdraw and collapse the govt. We do not see any semblance of ph using the same threat against umno.All the compromises are in favour of the corrupt party. Essentially means ph subservient to umno who is dominating the govt. How is this seeing they r not majority? There is only one plausible reason. This is not a unity govt but one whereby certain individuals have abuse the mandate given by the rakyat to conveniently satisfy their own ambitions instead of negotiating positions that align with the aspirations of the rakyat. In other words they have corrupted themselves to be no different from umno and don't give a shit about good governance.
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ Jun 3 2025, 11:18 AM)
Are you sure? So far we only see umno threatening to withdraw and collapse the govt. We do not see any semblance of ph using the same threat against umno.All the compromises are in favour of the corrupt party. Essentially means ph subservient to umno who is dominating the govt. How is this seeing they r not majority? There is only one plausible reason. This is not a unity govt but one whereby certain individuals have abuse the mandate given by the rakyat to conveniently satisfy their own ambitions instead of negotiating positions that align with the aspirations of the rakyat. In other words they have corrupted themselves to be no different from umno and don't give a shit about good governance.
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FYI, Once UMNO withdraw, Sarawak & Sabah party will follow. You tell me even if they go with PAS+Bersatu corruption wont happen? We all knew can only choose between 2 devil, one which can go international level to draw in foreign investment & forge new agreement or just always jaguh kampung? console.gif
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we are going towards that
but at this moment, what other candidates we have to vote for?
pass?
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In light of current political realities it should be PN. PAS is only part of a broader coalition which includes among others Gerakan. Let's be realistic. No coalition will secure putra jaya except with malay electoral support. Presently this is dichotomized between PN and umno and minority with PH. PH has repeatedly demonstrated they are unable to win over substantial malay support in spite of the likes of Amanah. Even now with the unity govt Malays aligned with umno do not vote for ph candidates thus transferability of votes only one way and benefitting umno. Why is this? I think it has a lot to do with the perception of the Chinese community and DAP which adopts a hardline pro Chinese stance. It is seen as too aggressive and intimidating. Thus any party including Gerakan aspiring to gain support of malay voters need to use a different approach which is predicated on close door diplomacy in resolving issues.
It's clear thus that PH will not be able to garner such support in the foreseeable future. More so seeing this has been their fate repeatedly over umpteen ge. Which means they will continue to cling onto umno for federal power survivorship and in the process get bullied and manipulated and possibly eradicated over time by those who are extending them this lifeline. Unfortunately they have negotiated themselves into a dead end with no way out.
But Gerakan on the other hand, whether premeditated or by sheer luck made the right strategic move to align themselves with PN thus allowing access to malay voter support. Hence they are in a favourable position to get to federal at the same time carrying the cause of the nons. But all this will depends on how they play their cards and engage voters as well as their partnership within the coalition.
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ Jun 3 2025, 11:11 AM)
In light of current political realities it should be PN. PAS is only part of a broader coalition which includes  among others Gerakan. Let's be realistic. No coalition will secure putra jaya except with malay electoral support. Presently this is dichotomized between  PN and umno and minority with PH. PH has repeatedly demonstrated they are unable to win over substantial malay support in spite of the likes of Amanah. Even now with the unity govt  Malays aligned with umno do not vote for ph candidates thus transferability of votes only one way and benefitting umno. Why is this? I think it has a lot to do with the perception of the Chinese community and DAP which adopts a hardline pro Chinese stance. It is seen as too aggressive and intimidating. Thus any party including Gerakan aspiring to gain support of malay voters need to use a different approach which is predicated on close door diplomacy in resolving issues.
It's clear thus that PH will not be able to garner such support in the foreseeable future. More so seeing this has been their fate repeatedly over umpteen ge. Which means they will continue to cling onto umno for federal power survivorship and in the process get bullied and manipulated and possibly eradicated over time by those who are extending them this lifeline. Unfortunately they have negotiated themselves into a dead end with no way out.
But Gerakan on the other hand, whether premeditated or by sheer luck made the right strategic move to align themselves with PN thus allowing access to malay voter support. Hence they are in a favourable position to get to federal at the same time carrying the cause of the nons. But all this will depends on how they play their cards and engage voters as well as their partnership within the coalition.
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ Jun 3 2025, 10:18 AM)
Are you sure? So far we only see umno threatening to withdraw and collapse the govt. We do not see any semblance of ph using the same threat against umno.All the compromises are in favour of the corrupt party. Essentially means ph subservient to umno who is dominating the govt. How is this seeing they r not majority? There is only one plausible reason. This is not a unity govt but one whereby certain individuals have abuse the mandate given by the rakyat to conveniently satisfy their own ambitions instead of negotiating positions that align with the aspirations of the rakyat. In other words they have corrupted themselves to be no different from umno and don't give a shit about good governance.
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ Jun 3 2025, 07:18 AM)
The worse part is that this weakness and compromising is not temporary but evolving to be a long term feature of pH seeing they are unable to find a a way to move forward politically except to rely on umno. So the sobering unpleasant truth is " undi ph dapat umno. Dapat umno dapat Songlap, korupsi and abuse of power + wayang unlimited"
Truth is unity govt was birthed out of an " unholy Union". That is why we see the offsprings are all bastards. Even PAS kalah  to this first time pelacur.
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I've read your posts. This unity government exists only because Zahid holding block support of Umno. If we look at the situation just after last GE, large number of MPs from Umno clearly not supporting Zahid. Puas will never join Dap and Zahid. So, even with pmx pressuring them by limiting the amount of royalty payment to Terengganu, they didnt budge and still wont join the unity government as long as Dap and Zahid is there. So, you are right in saying this unity government built from political whores who abandoned their principles. At least Puas has backbone and stick to their ideologies and principles.

As much as I want it, I feel that this will never happen in the near future... where the best possible option is actually to kick the corrupt umno out. And for that to happen, Puas and Dap need to reconcile their differences and find middle ground. Ohh... While we are at it kick pmx out as well as he is proven not fit enough to lead the country. I prefer someone like Rafizi to take his place who can get support from both Puas and Dap. I don't think this person exists yet. Do you know any possible candidate? Long time ago, at least from Puas side we have the late Nik Aziz who can work with Dap...

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FYI, Once UMNO withdraw, Sarawak & Sabah party will follow. You tell me even if they go with PAS+Bersatu corruption wont happen? We all knew can only choose between 2 devil, one which can go international level to draw in foreign investment & forge new agreement or just always jaguh kampung?  console.gif
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S&S and r are unlikely to support paus to form the federal gomen. whichever party that have s&s support, will form the next gomen.


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QUOTE(KarchKiraly @ Jun 3 2025, 10:24 PM)
I've read your posts. This unity government exists only because Zahid holding block support of Umno. If we look at the situation just after last GE, large number of MPs from Umno clearly not supporting Zahid. Puas will never join Dap and Zahid. So, even with pmx pressuring them by limiting the amount of royalty payment to Terengganu, they didnt budge and still wont join the unity government as long as Dap and Zahid is there. So, you are right in saying this unity government built from political whores who abandoned their principles. At least Puas has backbone and stick to their ideologies and principles.

As much as I want it, I feel that this will never happen in the near future... where the best possible option is actually to kick the corrupt umno out. And for that to happen, Puas and Dap need to reconcile their differences and find middle ground. Ohh... While we are at it kick pmx out as well as he is proven not fit enough to lead the country. I prefer someone like Rafizi to take his place who can get support from both Puas and Dap. I don't think this person exists yet. Do you know any possible candidate? Long time ago, at least from Puas side we have the late Nik Aziz who can work with Dap...
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PAS and DAP to reconcile their differences? I am waiting for that to happen for the good of the country. If dap can publicly apologise to abg Jo and indirectly white hair ( corrupt as they are who Songlap billions out of sarawak) I think it takes lesser degree of humility to mend bridges with PAS ( how much they Songlap?). Otherwise the alternative is for dap to lose all their seats to Gerakan in next GE. Because this cancer called umno and their toxic politics need to be buried once and for all.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 3 2025, 11:05 PM)
S&S and r are unlikely to support paus to form the federal gomen. whichever party that have s&s support, will form the next gomen.
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Every dog has its day. S & s are having the upper hand only because peninsular folks can't get their act together. Do the maths. How many seats needed to form govt? How many seats PN, dap, amanah, PKR has? It only takes a major upset to tilt the balance of power like if pH lost half their seats. Maybe its time seeing how bloody GPS is robbing the daylights out of the nation thru Petronas issue.
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ Jun 4 2025, 08:38 AM)
Every dog has its day. S & s are  having the upper hand only because peninsular folks can't get their act together. Do the maths. How many seats needed to form govt? How many seats PN, dap, amanah, PKR has? It only takes a major upset to tilt the balance of power  like if pH lost half their seats. Maybe its time seeing how bloody GPS is robbing the daylights out of the nation  thru Petronas issue.
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The west has plundered s&s for the last few decades. It is about time for them to get back what is originally belonging to them.

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The west has plundered s&s for the last few decades. It is about time for them to get back what is originally belonging to them.
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2 wrongs don't make a right. That is why I said it is time to Bury umno once and for all. Petronas funds meant for NATIONAL development. It is bn that abuse it for years.
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2 wrongs don't make a right. That is why I said it is time to Bury umno once and for all. Petronas funds meant for NATIONAL development. It is bn that abuse it for years.
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As long as Petronas is under pm control, abuse could happen.

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As long as Petronas is under pm control, abuse could happen.
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Could happen doesn't mean shd happen. Wrong is wrong and abuse of power is abuse of power. How much more you want to stomach?
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ Jun 4 2025, 08:32 AM)
PAS  and DAP to reconcile their differences? I am waiting for that to happen for the good of the country. If dap can publicly apologise to  abg Jo and indirectly white hair ( corrupt as they are who Songlap billions out of sarawak)  I think it takes lesser degree of humility  to mend  bridges with PAS ( how much they Songlap?). Otherwise the alternative is for dap to lose all their seats to Gerakan in next GE. Because this cancer called umno and their toxic politics need to be buried once and for all.
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Dap need to apologize to Pas as well. Really stupid for them to interfere with internal matter of Pas and take side with one of the faction within Pas. When that faction lost, they exit Pas and become Amanah. Even now, Pas knows what Dap is doing behind the scene. So Abang Jo is not wrong when he made his statement about peace in Sarawak with no Dap.
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Dap need to apologize to Pas as well. Really stupid for them to interfere with internal matter of Pas and take side with one of the faction within Pas. When that faction lost, they exit Pas and become Amanah. Even now, Pas knows what Dap is doing behind the scene. So Abang Jo is not wrong when he made his statement about peace in Sarawak with no Dap.
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Well let's see who has true humility and magnanimity, who can actually walk the talk to put nation and its people first above all the empty politicking.
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Yes, point being we are doing it to disrupt the system. To show PH that they are delulu if they think nons votes are secured for them and nons are stuck with the "asal bukan PuAS" narrative, to show PH we are not afraid of NOT voting them.

Some of us would double down out of spite on the scare and vote for PuAS (atm, im in this boat), some of us would undi bebas calon, some of us would undi rosak, while some would rather goyang kaki at home. All ways of showing it are valid and welcome.  thumbsup.gif

Fuck PHcais and PHdogs for thinking nons votes are their vote bank lulz.
This is the same arrogance of BN thinking S&S is their safe deposit, and such arrogance will be duly punished by the voters.  biggrin.gif
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“The question now is how PAS can attract them to our side,” Amar was quoted as saying. The challenge was to find more convincing ways to win over the non-Malays ahead of the general election, which is due by February 2028."

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QUOTE(SharpSword @ Jun 4 2025, 10:13 AM)
2 wrongs don't make a right. That is why I said it is time to Bury umno once and for all. Petronas funds meant for NATIONAL development. It is bn that abuse it for years.
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On ketum ah? During PH time PN Madani time Petronas not their pgyy bank? Only during Bijan time Petronas was not the gomen piggy bank.
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oi, PAS is now targeting people like you, quick, time to name your price for sacrificing your foreskin..

PAS eyes support of ‘critical’ non-Malays disgruntled with govt

“The question now is how PAS can attract them to our side,” Amar was quoted as saying. The challenge was to find more convincing ways to win over the non-Malays ahead of the general election, which is due by February 2028."
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funny thing is PuAS dont even need to lift a finger for me to vote them.

Asal bukan PuAS? More like asal bukan PH.
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 8 2025, 01:28 AM)
funny thing is PuAS dont even need to lift a finger for me to vote them.

Asal bukan PuAS? More like asal bukan PH.
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very soon is not about political campaign to win election
stupid ppl who keep breeding will win the election by quantity eventually

well since condom is haram and nothing to stop it thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 8 2025, 01:00 AM)
On ketum ah?  During PH time PN Madani time Petronas not their pgyy bank? Only during Bijan time Petronas was not the gomen piggy bank.
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Apa ketum? You have a point to make just say it instead of being a rude bastard.
PH and PN governed for how long? And wasn't PN govt during covid? So oil money used to manage covid. In comparison bn how long in govt? The worst abuses happen during the convicts tenure.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 8 2025, 12:53 AM)
oi, PAS is now targeting people like you, quick, time to name your price for sacrificing your foreskin..

PAS eyes support of ‘critical’ non-Malays disgruntled with govt

“The question now is how PAS can attract them to our side,” Amar was quoted as saying. The challenge was to find more convincing ways to win over the non-Malays ahead of the general election, which is due by February 2028."
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But you did not mention the price ph pay to sacrifice its chastity to become a whore for umno? Or was it for certain ph leader?

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QUOTE(SharpSword @ Jun 8 2025, 07:49 AM)
But you did not mention the price ph pay to sacrifice its chastity to become a whore for umno? Or was it for certain ph leader?
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 30 2025, 09:37 AM)
before jadi gov, say BN is 'barang naik'

jadi gov, PH become 'pasti naik'
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reformati

PKR’s Wong Chen takes a break to ponder his future

The three-term MP says he feels a deep worry that the PH-led government has little to show in terms of reforms after 15 years trying to get into power.
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...nder-his-future
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 1 2025, 08:04 AM)
PM in this country is all powerful and ministers are bound by cabinet decision whether happy or not. Dap ministers couldn't make any negative comments except privately.

BMX should loss his parliament seat like kutuk.
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Even umno with less seat know how to bark, dap can get lost.
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So madani better or zaman najib better? Najib time we have corruption, madani time we have corruption plus funding to palestine and new taxes and makin briyani racist and all other problems
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 8 2025, 12:53 AM)
oi, PAS is now targeting people like you, quick, time to name your price for sacrificing your foreskin..

PAS eyes support of ‘critical’ non-Malays disgruntled with govt

“The question now is how PAS can attract them to our side,” Amar was quoted as saying. The challenge was to find more convincing ways to win over the non-Malays ahead of the general election, which is due by February 2028."
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I remembers.
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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ May 30 2025, 11:44 AM)
madani still continuing with failed policies of dumno

monopolies, oligopoly, APs, banks, syed moktar alone for rice (mana beras putih tempatan?)

madani guy kept the status quo for elites

failed.
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^^^ THIS! nod.gif

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kerajaan MADANI is kerajaan MAmi DAdi Nurul Izzah
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Jun 11 2025, 11:36 AM)
^^^ THIS!  nod.gif

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wow, just like Bossku era. pergi berdemo kena kutip

terbaikkk la for PHcais and PHdogs like to be oppressed cause they are masochists

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Ain't ktards all monthly >20k?? can migrate easily mah why still argue daily leh confused.gif

 

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