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kelvinfixx
post May 28 2025, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(soul78 @ May 28 2025, 08:18 AM)
what if min withdrawal threshold raised to 2mil...

then those wanna retire early kenot liao lo?

forced to work until 65...
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I don't think they will do it drasticly, increase by 100k every 5 years is possible.
Sone Shin
post May 28 2025, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(JustForCheonging @ May 28 2025, 07:52 AM)
Most importantly jangan increase RM1mil withdrawal threshold can liao
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1.3mil soon? Or sudah uturn?
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post May 28 2025, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(kopitiamtardx @ May 28 2025, 07:50 AM)
Seems like there is a connection:

1) High dividend for 2024
2) More people are investing voluntarily into the fund
3) Increase the retirement age

So we can only withdraw after 65 years old??

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You can withdraw from your account a and b at age 55 onward

You can also withdraw the excess at any age if your savings is above 1 million. So if you have 1.1 mil u can withdraw 100k anytime
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post May 28 2025, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(kopitiamtardx @ May 28 2025, 07:50 AM)
Seems like there is a connection:

1) High dividend for 2024
2) More people are investing voluntarily into the fund
3) Increase the retirement age

So we can only withdraw after 65 years old??

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More people are investing voluntarily into the fund, so it's in trouble? Wtf.
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post May 28 2025, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(JustForCheonging @ May 28 2025, 07:52 AM)
Most importantly jangan increase RM1mil withdrawal threshold can liao
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It’s already mandated to be increase by 100k per year starting next year to 2028, by then will be minimum 1.3m for withdrawal.
ZforZebra
post May 28 2025, 08:28 AM

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if EPF is fked.
then msia can bcome zimbabwe. serious.
all your money will be worthless, unless foreign currency or crypto
andrwss
post May 28 2025, 08:31 AM

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A little sound like pyramid scheme, unless u think their investing managers are more competent than those working in banks. Just hope it doesn't get stolen by our dirty politicians hand, who knows
hoonanoo
post May 28 2025, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Robert @ May 28 2025, 07:53 AM)
EPF is sanctioned by law and it should be very stable unless country economy not stable
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if puas takeover govt, better withdraw as much as you can.

all the monies will be poured to fund subsidy and stupid wagyu projects
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post May 28 2025, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Mattrock @ May 28 2025, 08:15 AM)
I think government pension is more in trouble, hence push to increase retirement age to 65.
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yeah .pension at 60 but life expectancy now 78 oso still alive due to progress of medicine.. imagine how much money needed.,.
KenM
post May 28 2025, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(seikoho1 @ May 28 2025, 06:54 AM)
Try unit trust and face some negative interest and suck dry your funda
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this, i personally can confirm… put in for 5 years, at the end, wait for 10days to get my investment and still lose 15%!…
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post May 28 2025, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(kopitiamtardx @ May 28 2025, 07:50 AM)
Seems like there is a connection:

1) High dividend for 2024
2) More people are investing voluntarily into the fund
3) Increase the retirement age

So we can only withdraw after 65 years old??

sweat.gif
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The Employees Provident Fund (EPF) in Malaysia is established under the Employees Provident Fund Act 1991 (Act 452), which is an Act of Parliament. This has several important legal implications, particularly in relation to instructions or interference from the Executive (the government) or Judiciary (the courts):
🔒 1. Rule of Law and Legal Boundaries

Because the EPF is governed by legislation:

The Executive (Ministers, Government Departments) cannot arbitrarily instruct or direct the EPF to act outside the scope of the Act.

Any directive or instruction must be consistent with the provisions of the EPF Act. If it's not, the EPF has no legal obligation to comply.

⚖️ 2. Judicial Oversight

The Judiciary can interpret the EPF Act and ensure that actions taken by the EPF or the Executive are lawful.

Courts cannot instruct the EPF to act against the statute, but can review decisions for legality, procedural fairness, or constitutionality.

🛡️ 3. Statutory Independence

Being created by statute gives the EPF a degree of legal and operational independence from day-to-day political influence.

This means the government of the day cannot unilaterally change EPF policies (e.g. withdrawal terms, investment strategies) without amending the Act via Parliament.

📜 4. Changes Require Legislation

If the Government wishes to change EPF policy or structure, it must do so by introducing amendments to the EPF Act in Parliament.

This ensures transparency, debate, and democratic legitimacy.
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post May 28 2025, 08:50 AM

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post May 28 2025, 08:51 AM

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sikit sikit trouble nah ambik makan

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post May 28 2025, 08:54 AM

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EPF wont be in trouble but will scam all malaysian money by implement changes when u old, similar to sg CPF cant withdraw all
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post May 28 2025, 08:55 AM

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EPF withdrawal age and retirement age are 2 separate matters, where both ages are different.

Which is a joke. Can withdraw money early to enjoy before retirement.
Juan86
post May 28 2025, 08:55 AM

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people still put money into epf ?
iGamer
post May 28 2025, 09:01 AM

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Retirement age and EPF withdrawal age is different.

If the govt of the day wish to be toppled in next GE, it could consider suicide by raising EPF withdrawal age. wink.gif
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post May 28 2025, 09:01 AM

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Epf need new young blood in the workforce to maintain fund..

If all old one remain in fund, they can either cash out sekali gus, or when they die, the beneficiaries cash out sekali gus..

If one day the cash out more than contribution.. then hailat ad
shadow_walker
post May 28 2025, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ May 28 2025, 08:20 AM)
I think EPF will implement monthly or yearly withdrawal after 55 instead of one time all witdrawal.
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this is better actually...alot of sohai old folks who lost all savings within 1-2 years...later menyusahkan everyone...kek
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post May 28 2025, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(nelson969 @ May 28 2025, 08:09 AM)
the country is trying to discipline people by saving money for rainy day

but people start to aggressive yolo after covid, pop up cafe franchise, keep going oversea, go hang flower, cheong more than it should, go migrate to other country, renovate house, go genting gambling, all of these are not possible without the 10k withdrawal epf at that time

now waiting something like france protest ( in 2023 when the gov raise retirement age, people protest )
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i thought retirement can be anytime?
if work for gov, i want to retire at 50, do i get pension?

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