Time to crank up all the way to 100 gazilion bazilion ISO
[Photography lesson] Dont be afraid to use ISO
[Photography lesson] Dont be afraid to use ISO
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May 27 2025, 04:45 PM
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Time to crank up all the way to 100 gazilion bazilion ISO RT8081 liked this post
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May 27 2025, 04:45 PM
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Kekwa I've never been bothered with iso on my d3000. I let the camera do its job and I just mess with aperture and shutter speed according to available light, as mentioned by this guy. Been doing that since the beginning as it just make sense. Never had complaints with the quality. As dude mentioned, nowadays any picture can be touched up in post processing. But to get there, you need a picture first. RT8081 liked this post
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May 27 2025, 04:45 PM
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Actually you need to know the noise floor and dynamic range of the iso also Sometimes got intrinsic iso Sometimes from iso 100 to sub 1600 all based on iso 100. So the noise floor is same when you adjust for underexposure correction. That means if you take a shot iso100, underexpose , fast shutter, it's the same when you bring up the shadows Vs a iso 800 shot, of the same scene Then you realise some camera might have a 1600 iso that's suddenly better Dr and noise floor than 1500 because 1500 is based off 100. Sometimes it goes the other way as well So it's not so simplistic RT8081 liked this post
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May 27 2025, 04:49 PM
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I shoot and compared at ISO from 100 to 25600 before. ISO100 is the cleanest and sharpest. Post processing the higher iso still cant beat it. Many here dont know that at higher ISO not only noise will increase but your dynamic range will drop also. There is an ancient tool last time that people use to negate camera shake at low shutter speed, its called a tripod. So unless im shooting moving objects, i almost never use higher ISO. Higher ISO is fine if you dun pixel peep though.... This post has been edited by COOLPINK: May 27 2025, 04:51 PM RT8081 liked this post
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May 27 2025, 04:50 PM
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I never ever touch iso until last steps adjust all my dslr or phone settings. unless i dare to break my photo or video quality. This post has been edited by Seybold: May 27 2025, 04:51 PM RT8081 liked this post
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Jul 28 2025, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 27 2025, 02:23 PM) Correct la, i did said depends on location and when u shoot lol some situation darker shot is unavoidable. so Indoor and evening shot where light is dimmer or less light, it is ok to crank the ISO but compensate with right aperture and shutter speed. Some juniors i met so afraid to crank iso higher than 3600 because worried will be too noisy, so they ended taking darker shot and post process it for example: 1. i need to freeze the motion of moving people (in my case i need at least 1/400s, but i ended with 1 stop faster 1/800s) 2. already max out the aperture (f1.8) 3. already max out the native iso (ISO 5000) this was the sooc jpeg with 2.5-stop under exposure: ![]() it's important to shoot raw so that can post-process later to make unusable photo to usable: ![]() bare in mind that this photo was taken with small sensor camera Olympus E-PL5 that was introduced in 2012, so most camera that is newer than this and bigger sensor than this can produce better post-processed result. RT8081 liked this post
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Jul 28 2025, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jul 28 2025, 04:15 PM) some situation darker shot is unavoidable. so Professional shot~for example: 1. i need to freeze the motion of moving people (in my case i need at least 1/400s, but i ended with 1 stop faster 1/800s) 2. already max out the aperture (f1.8) 3. already max out the native iso (ISO 5000) this was the sooc jpeg with 2.5-stop under exposure: ![]() it's important to shoot raw so that can post-process later to make unusable photo to usable: ![]() bare in mind that this photo was taken with small sensor camera Olympus E-PL5 that was introduced in 2012, so most camera that is newer than this and bigger sensor than this can produce better post-processed result. |
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Jul 28 2025, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(Hexlord @ Jul 28 2025, 04:18 PM) it's just a random shot of street photograph.what i want to point out are: 1. don't be afraid of shooting in high iso 2. don't be afraid of shooting your photo under-expose if you need to freeze the motion 3. don't shoot in jpeg only, shoot in raw+jpeg. you might able to save many great photos by post-processing lerijiso liked this post
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Jul 28 2025, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 27 2025, 02:23 PM) Correct la, i did said depends on location and when u shoot lol my a7rv selamber je iso 12800Indoor and evening shot where light is dimmer or less light, it is ok to crank the ISO but compensate with right aperture and shutter speed. Some juniors i met so afraid to crank iso higher than 3600 because worried will be too noisy, so they ended taking darker shot and post process it RT8081 liked this post
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Jul 28 2025, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jul 28 2025, 04:28 PM) it's just a random shot of street photograph. On the other hand, if there's no reason to shoot at high ISO... no need to do it. I rarely go above 1600 anyway.what i want to point out are: 1. don't be afraid of shooting in high iso 2. don't be afraid of shooting your photo under-expose if you need to freeze the motion 3. don't shoot in jpeg only, shoot in raw+jpeg. you might able to save many great photos by post-processing |
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Jul 28 2025, 04:42 PM
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i got Lumix LX3, i use auto jerrr, now that the batt is kong, and the screen cacated, my samsneg exynos flagship camera to capture the Moment > noiseless
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Jul 28 2025, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(Hexlord @ Jul 28 2025, 04:40 PM) On the other hand, if there's no reason to shoot at high ISO... no need to do it. I rarely go above 1600 anyway. of course the lower the better if possible.nowadays my camera IBIS dah koyak, so i can't handheld shoot slower than 1/250s. Hexlord liked this post
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Jul 28 2025, 05:00 PM
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This guy only tokok know little but big mouth.
Each camera behaved differently there are no single better way. At the end you have your own requirements and ai noise reduction work so well nowadays that iso hardly matter anymore. For me I just stick with 100 because I always shoot more than 1 sec on a tripod anyway. |
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Jul 28 2025, 05:01 PM
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Dont care about iso if you shoot raw
You crank iso in camera or in lightroom same result Then use lightroom raw denoise. Its almost magical |
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Jul 28 2025, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jul 28 2025, 04:15 PM) some situation darker shot is unavoidable. so Thanks for sharing tips!for example: 1. i need to freeze the motion of moving people (in my case i need at least 1/400s, but i ended with 1 stop faster 1/800s) 2. already max out the aperture (f1.8) 3. already max out the native iso (ISO 5000) this was the sooc jpeg with 2.5-stop under exposure: ![]() it's important to shoot raw so that can post-process later to make unusable photo to usable: ![]() bare in mind that this photo was taken with small sensor camera Olympus E-PL5 that was introduced in 2012, so most camera that is newer than this and bigger sensor than this can produce better post-processed result. |
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Jul 28 2025, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(keyibukeyi @ Jul 28 2025, 04:42 PM) i got Lumix LX3, i use auto jerrr, now that the batt is kong, and the screen cacated, my samsneg exynos flagship camera to capture the Moment > noiseless Auto is the best but sometime in tricky situation, need to learn how to shoot semi manualQUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ Jul 28 2025, 05:00 PM) This guy only tokok know little but big mouth. Lol, agree with 100. Each camera behaved differently there are no single better way. At the end you have your own requirements and ai noise reduction work so well nowadays that iso hardly matter anymore. For me I just stick with 100 because I always shoot more than 1 sec on a tripod anyway. QUOTE(~min~ @ Jul 28 2025, 05:01 PM) Dont care about iso if you shoot raw YupYou crank iso in camera or in lightroom same result Then use lightroom raw denoise. Its almost magical keyibukeyi liked this post
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Jul 28 2025, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ May 27 2025, 02:25 PM) Yeah..exactly what i wanna say. If Full Frame latest camera, it is more forgiving to crank up the ISO compared to say, an older APSC sensor camera."noisier image is better than blur image." This advice is a very good advice. And since, I mostly photograph street, i will try to keep my ISO as low as possible to minimise noise but in low light environment, it is easier for the photos to turn out blurry. For street photography, u don't have the luxury of controlled lighting so you must be more flexible and willing to crank up the ISO when necessary. I normally set 3 auto ISO settings, one for day, one for low light, one for extreme low light and i change the auto ISO settings accordingly. This post has been edited by lerijiso: Jul 28 2025, 05:28 PM BOTAK_WAI liked this post
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