TLDR : Ur sifu probably said stick to lowest ISO (100 or 50) if possible for less noise. Not true as it depends on where and when u shoot.

Using Higher ISO has less noise than lower ISO but darker due to shutter speed, and if u in try to lower shutter speed to compensate light, Ur frame will not be sharp.

Sekian terima kasih

This post has been edited by RT8081: May 27 2025, 12:10 PM

Looks like this guy is making beginners more confused.

Comparing low vs high ISO as same shutter speed, then of course the low ISO picture will be darker. Then increase brightness digitally to show more noise and say lower ISO more noise.

Try to shoot picture at correct exposure with low ISO and also with high ISO, meaning the low ISO one with longer exposure compare to the high ISO one. This will give both picture with same brightness. Then magnify the picture to see which one is grainier. I can bet the the one with high ISO will have more noise.

Your statement is only valid looking at one perspective.

ISO tu quality standard ke

Correct la, i did said depends on location and when u shoot lol

Indoor and evening shot where light is dimmer or less light, it is ok to crank the ISO but compensate with right aperture and shutter speed. Some juniors i met so afraid to crank iso higher than 3600 because worried will be too noisy, so they ended taking darker shot and post process it

This post has been edited by RT8081: May 27 2025, 02:30 PM

Anything for view count these days. Obviously, you could use higher ISO, it just depends on situation. People who stick to 50-100 guideline just tend to stay safe and don't like to do much of tests or trial. But to say lower ISO produces noisy photo compared to higher ISO is just misleading.

This post has been edited by whyamiblack: May 27 2025, 02:26 PM

Lain ISO bang

That guy is an established photographer. Sudah view sebelum comment ?

sensor nowadays so good, crank up iso je.

noisier image is better than blur image.

Exactly

embrace the shadows, dont be afraid of the dark
a good photo not necessary must be bright and sharp

Never get these IsO thingy even with leica lens cam n hP

That depend on what u are shooting lol

get a faster lens

It is just increase ur sensor's sensitivity to capture in dimly lit environments

Depends who you ask but most artists I know rather have abit of blur than noise.

Correct. Faster lens produce better shots

yang master tu pandai use any kind of light source.

pandai camera ×
pandai lighting ✓

He already shown u a sample, go and watch it lol adui

This!

Everything is interrelated in photography. Faster lenses just means lenses with wider aperture capability than most lenses but that will reduce depth of field (focus zone).

go up to ISO 800... grainy effect not too bad

Rule of thumb is... crank up iso only as the last resort, where slower shutter speed and wider aperture is already at it's extreme level and cannot be further adjusted without causing blurrness to your image.

Itu saja, sekian.

Yes you can play around the ISO because sometimes lighting condition is a fixed condition because you want to capture the ambience. Otherwise you can use flash if desired.

Well, all I can say is higher ISO will always be grainier than lower ISO if both picture are at correct exposure.

Almost mid 2025 already. Ramp up those ISO lah. This isn't 2007.

is this noisy?

bigger aperture reduce depth of field la...

i would prefer m-mode

set the safe shutter speed according to the environment/movement
lens/sensor stabilization works for stationary

set the aperture size according to your intended depth of field

set the iso to auto, some ppl might put a capped on max iso
exposure indicator will blink if under or over exposed, that time baru re-adjust shutter speed and/or aperture size.

adjust exposure compensation when needed

ISO 12800 terus.

It depends on the amount of light avail
and the F stop of your lens?

bump the ISO jer. grainy pic better than blur pic << sifu kentang emas teach one last time.

Faster lens just have the ability to shoot with shallower depth of field. It wont have the ability to produce better shots.

Tq vm, ayam wrong. Still learning 🙏

My bad, you are correct 🙏

Anyone still saying we must stick to ISO 100 or ISO 50?
Is that from a photography book/magazine published 20 years ago?

Current cameras can handle high iso without any issues.
Even if you’re using an ancient camera, plenty of great denoising options are available during post process.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: May 27 2025, 04:02 PM

Still got people i met giving me this advice lol

exposure triangle la... i think if beginner, hard to master coz need to find the right balance.

tl;dr
Better grainy photo than blurry photo.

This youtuber mainly shooting wildlife photos, not same situation as indoor or control environment.

If he is using ISO100 or long exposure, he wouldn't able to do his job.

Depends on where you're looking at.

Like this part of the pic is noisy


But you're not looking at this part. you're looking at the cobweb.

most newer camera is iso invariance. you shoot high iso or increase brightness in ps/lr same also. so dont bother with iso

Nowadays nak jadi photographer also nee ISO certificate?
Gg now wonder wedding photographer service price skyrocket

Time to crank up all the way to 100 gazilion bazilion ISO

Kekwa
I've never been bothered with iso on my d3000. I let the camera do its job and I just mess with aperture and shutter speed according to available light, as mentioned by this guy. Been doing that since the beginning as it just make sense. Never had complaints with the quality.

As dude mentioned, nowadays any picture can be touched up in post processing. But to get there, you need a picture first.

Actually you need to know the noise floor and dynamic range of the iso also

Sometimes got intrinsic iso

Sometimes from iso 100 to sub 1600 all based on iso 100. So the noise floor is same when you adjust for underexposure correction. That means if you take a shot iso100, underexpose , fast shutter, it's the same when you bring up the shadows Vs a iso 800 shot, of the same scene

Then you realise some camera might have a 1600 iso that's suddenly better Dr and noise floor than 1500 because 1500 is based off 100. Sometimes it goes the other way as well

So it's not so simplistic

I shoot and compared at ISO from 100 to 25600 before.

ISO100 is the cleanest and sharpest.
Post processing the higher iso still cant beat it.

Many here dont know that at higher ISO not only noise will increase but your dynamic range will drop also.

There is an ancient tool last time that people use to negate camera shake at low shutter speed, its called a tripod.
So unless im shooting moving objects, i almost never use higher ISO.

Higher ISO is fine if you dun pixel peep though....

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: May 27 2025, 04:51 PM

I never ever touch iso until last steps adjust all my dslr or phone settings. unless i dare to break my photo or video quality.

This post has been edited by Seybold: May 27 2025, 04:51 PM

some situation darker shot is unavoidable. so

for example:

1. i need to freeze the motion of moving people (in my case i need at least 1/400s, but i ended with 1 stop faster 1/800s)
2. already max out the aperture (f1.8)
3. already max out the native iso (ISO 5000)

this was the sooc jpeg with 2.5-stop under exposure:


it's important to shoot raw so that can post-process later to make unusable photo to usable:



bare in mind that this photo was taken with small sensor camera Olympus E-PL5 that was introduced in 2012, so most camera that is newer than this and bigger sensor than this can produce better post-processed result.

Professional shot~

it's just a random shot of street photograph.

what i want to point out are:
1. don't be afraid of shooting in high iso
2. don't be afraid of shooting your photo under-expose if you need to freeze the motion
3. don't shoot in jpeg only, shoot in raw+jpeg. you might able to save many great photos by post-processing

my a7rv selamber je iso 12800

On the other hand, if there's no reason to shoot at high ISO... no need to do it. I rarely go above 1600 anyway.

i got Lumix LX3, i use auto jerrr, now that the batt is kong, and the screen cacated, my samsneg exynos flagship camera to capture the Moment > noiseless

of course the lower the better if possible.

nowadays my camera IBIS dah koyak, so i can't handheld shoot slower than 1/250s.

This guy only tokok know little but big mouth.
Each camera behaved differently there are no single better way. At the end you have your own requirements and ai noise reduction work so well nowadays that iso hardly matter anymore.

For me I just stick with 100 because I always shoot more than 1 sec on a tripod anyway.

Dont care about iso if you shoot raw

You crank iso in camera or in lightroom same result

Then use lightroom raw denoise. Its almost magical

Thanks for sharing tips!

Auto is the best but sometime in tricky situation, need to learn how to shoot semi manual


Lol, agree with 100.


Yup

Yeah..exactly what i wanna say. If Full Frame latest camera, it is more forgiving to crank up the ISO compared to say, an older APSC sensor camera.


"noisier image is better than blur image."
This advice is a very good advice. And since, I mostly photograph street, i will try to keep my ISO as low as possible to minimise noise but in low light environment, it is easier for the photos to turn out blurry. For street photography, u don't have the luxury of controlled lighting so you must be more flexible and willing to crank up the ISO when necessary.

I normally set 3 auto ISO settings, one for day, one for low light, one for extreme low light and i change the auto ISO settings accordingly.

This post has been edited by lerijiso: Jul 28 2025, 05:28 PM