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post May 29 2025, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(xeNOS @ May 29 2025, 10:36 PM)
Yes imagine you eBrake when crossing the road and along comes a 12 wheeler at full speed....
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... EV drebar & sekeluarga full speed terus ke alam lain. But before the accident, while still trap inside the EV, please unplug the safety switch to the high voltage systems ya. Makasih.
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post May 30 2025, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ May 30 2025, 11:33 AM)
Our roads not billiard tables smooth
Manual lane keeping means i move around in the lane to adjust for camber and road imperfections. Unless you want to replace suspension and wheels regularly.
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Agree but I use LKA only for highways.
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post May 30 2025, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ May 30 2025, 11:56 AM)
Ayam car only have CC not ACC with LKA. So I’ll try not to rear end the EV dead stopped in the middle of the highway because of a dead 12V battery.
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While ICE drivers like many of us will now avoid travelling behind an EV for obvious safety reasons, I wonder from hereonwards will we see an increase of heavy vehicles rear ending EV on highways onot. Interesting to see what unfolds. 6s cukup tak for a heavy vehicle to do emergency braking ? LOL

I wonder if the white backgournd of the EV plate is also luminous onot.

It's best that EV do not travel on highways when it's dark. Kang mati tengah jalan without hazard lights and cannot get out of vehicle. Terus ke alam lain.

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post May 30 2025, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ May 30 2025, 01:03 PM)
ev not really for long distance travelling anyways, witness the story of the tesla model s driver whose battery almost KO because he was using it to drive from KL to hometown in Batu Pahat.
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What happened to the Tesla Model S ?

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post May 30 2025, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ May 30 2025, 01:19 PM)
the guy was doing it quite regularly, his battery was gg within 2 year iirc
check back again in 18-24 months with your battery health
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Nah I wouldn't count on that bro. Remember our friend new EV 10 months old je, battery kong forcing the EV into an emergency brake within 6 seconds.

EV charging system is unlike that of an ICE charging system, I suspect battery companies, if they want to sell batteries to EV, they will probably come out with additional terms & conditions for their batteries to be use in EV, simply because the ancient 12V lead acid battery is the cheapest battery but it's definitely not the correct battery to be use in an EV. That is why Tesla upgraded their batteries to a 16V battery for their EV.

While there are accounts from Boy96 saying the batteries last much longer but we have to take into account that Boy96 & geng bukan olang biase biase type, they are up to mark with their maintenance but for Tom Dick & Harry will be asking batteri besar gila bawah kereta, apa that smoll tiny battery masih boleh Kong ?

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post May 30 2025, 03:12 PM

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[quote=lurkingaround,May 30 2025, 02:33 PM]
Repeating. Countered.

Yes if you use your critical thinking and common sense, it is also logical that the whole LCD screen all the lights and everything will also fail. Means nothing will turn on. Suddenly only door sensor fail but all the processor , memory , radio system is working .. LOL.
But the LCD screen is still on, the processor is still working. So your logic fail again. Btw there's no 5V battery , I understand similar to the bozo Catholic guy who claims to know electrical systems, you cannot understand what voltage regulated system means.
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Pengalaman paling MENGERIKAN bagi kami sekeluarga apabila kereta BYD Atto 3 secara tiba-tiba brek mengejut ketika sedang memandu di lorong kanan lebuhraya!

Pada 1 May lalu, kami dalam perjalanan dari Melaka ingin pulang ke kampung di Penang dan singgah di Kajang sebentar untuk menghadiri rumah terbuka. Sewaktu di lebuhraya Cheras-Kajang, kereta dengan secara tiba-tiba brek mengejut tanpa ada sebarang amaran atau apa-apa 'indicator'. Di skrin panel kereta pula menunjukkan "Power System Failure" dan keempat-empat tayar kereta seperti di kunci.

Beberapa kereta hampir kemalangan kerana mengelak dari merempuh kereta kami yang tiba-tiba berhenti di lorong kanan.

Saya terus menelefon pihak lebuhraya untuk meminta bantuan mengawal lalu lintas. Alhamdulillah, kurang 10 minit pihak peronda sampai dan terus meletakkan kon di lorong kanan agar kenderaan lain berwaspada dengan kereta kami. Saya juga cuba untuk 'Off dan On' kereta namun tidak berhasil kerana tiada sebarang respon. Tayar pula seperti dikunci dan kereta tidak boleh ditolak walaupun gear sudah 'N'.

Dalam 1 jam, pihak towing insurance pun datang dan menunda kereta kami ke pusat servis di BYD Glenmarie Shah Alam. Jam menunjukkan pukul 7 petang dan saya hanya boleh meninggalkan kereta tersebut di situ kerana di luar waktu operasi. Kami sekeluarga terpaksa menumpang di rumah saudara yang terletak tidak jauh dari situ.

Pada keesokan paginya, saya menelefon BYD Glenmarie untuk memberitahu masalah kereta tersebut tetapi mereka memberikan pelbagai alasan seperti, 'tidak cukup staff', 'perlu appointment', dan pelbagai lagi. Disebabkan hal ini 'emergency' kerana melibatkan nyawa, saya tetap menegaskan dan memaksa mereka untuk memeriksa kereta tersebut.

Pada 4 petang mereka memberitahu kereta kami mempunyai masalah bateri 12V dan memerlukan masa beberapa hari untuk membaik pulih dan melakukan pemeriksaan. ...

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5521715

In the case of the OP incident above, the 12V battery was weak (10 month old) or failing, not totally failed = still got LCD screen showing "Power System Failure" but all other power-drawing functions no more working.
....... Likely the TERRIFYING automatic emergency braking from 100km/h in 6s (= Power System Failure) by the computer of the BYD Atto 3 EV car was to pre-empt total 12V battery failure or total accessories failure, eg no power steering, no ABS, no emergency airbags deployment, etc..
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Imagine what would have happened if it was raining ? Doubt the vehicles travelling at the back would be able to avoid it on time. How come the original text missing the other vehicles managed to narrowly avoid it ?

I am impressed with your patience dealing with that dildo. It's similar to another dildo now tell me where does it say unequivocally that Jesus says he is God in the Bible. It's similar like show me where unequivocally where does the report show that a failure 12V system leads to the shutting down of a system. Thank goodness I have clients who drive modern cars and since I am managing their vehicles don't have no fucking problems. The moronic dildo is fucking with you man.
Surely he has some interest in EV and you continuing to tell the truth will affect that dildo.

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post May 31 2025, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 31 2025, 05:20 PM)
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In this case, ie the BYD Atto 3 suddenly auto emergency braking on the highway from 100km/h in 6s, purportedly due to a faulty door sensor and not a faulty 12V battery, is also scaring consumers from buying BYD EV cars.

If this TERRIFYING or SCARY incident had happened in CCP China, BYD would have already blamed it on the driver by issuing an LOD or lawyer letter to demand the deletion of the post/comment and a public apology from the driver.
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It's not would have, they had already taken action against the Chinese individual who raised the alarm on the weakness of the 12Volt battery in the EV.

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 31 2025, 12:17 PM)
DC/DC converter kaput could be the main culprit. But it seems to occur very rarely. 12v battery kaput is so common its impossible this thing just happen once in this case.

Machem ICE car yes 12v battery kaput is so common. But alternator that constantly charge the 12v battery kaput we very rarely encoutnered it though it can still happened.
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If the DC/DC converter had failed, wouldn't that be mentioned in the press statement ? Obviously that didn't failed.

Lurkingaround had already written the condition for the 12V battery to fail and that is not impossible as well, as more EV are put on the road, the odds for that permutation to take place increases.

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post May 31 2025, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 31 2025, 05:20 PM)
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In this case, ie the BYD Atto 3 suddenly auto emergency braking on the highway from 100km/h in 6s, purportedly due to a faulty door sensor and not a faulty 12V battery, is also scaring consumers from buying BYD EV cars.

If this TERRIFYING or SCARY incident had happened in CCP China, BYD would have already blamed it on the driver by issuing an LOD or lawyer letter to demand the deletion of the post/comment and a public apology from the driver.
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Looks like they shot themself in the foot in trying to fix the blame on the poor door sensor. Now it can be any other fucking sensors on board which brings the EV to an abrupt stop.

Now give me free I also don't want.


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post May 31 2025, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 31 2025, 03:00 PM)
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No lah. The running EV car is still running after its 12V battery is removed does not mean the accessories are also still running, eg door system and sensors, lights, etc or such EV car can still be driven on the road.
....... AFAIK, with an EV car running or switched on, the traction battery directly powers the electric (drive) motors, which motors in turn powers the climate control system, eg compressors, ... and recharges the 12V battery when needed, which 12V battery directly powers the accessories, eg door system and sensors, lights, HVAC fan, steering, braking, computer, ADAS, cockpit displays, etc.

Note that the 12V battery also powers the "starter" system, ie it is needed to "wake up" the traction battery's power system, eg a dead 12V battery in a parked EV car that has been switched off = a dead EV car that cannot be started or "woken up" = may need to be jumpstarted or the 12V battery replaced.
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Fyi, .......

https://www.bannerbatterien.com/en/Battery-...board-batteries - EVERYTHING ABOUT THE 12V BATTERY IN THE E-CAR
EXPLAINED QUICKLY AND SIMPLY

.... Another Banner tip: Take the electric or hybrid car to the workshop for service or repair, then please leave at least one side window open in the workshop. Even better: leave a door propped open so that you can get back into the electric car if necessary. Why? Depending on the repair, the 12V starter and on-board battery could be disconnected. If this happens without external voltage maintenance, the doors could remain locked, depending on the car model! In the worst case, the workshop visit will now take a little longer than planned.

This information also applies to DIY (do it yourself) service and repair work. ...


Gemini AI Overview:

Disconnecting the 12V battery while an EV is running can cause various issues, but the car won't immediately stop. The 12V battery primarily powers the car's accessories, electronics, and some auxiliary systems, not the main traction battery that powers the motors.

However, disconnecting it can lead to:
- 1. Loss of Accessory Power: Features like lights, air conditioning, and radio may not function if the 12V battery is disconnected, as they rely on it for power.
- 2. Potential System Errors: Some electronic systems, like the car's computer, may malfunction or display error messages due to the lack of power from the 12V battery.
- 3. Difficulty Re-Starting the Car: The car may not start or have difficulty restarting if the 12V battery is completely depleted.

Important Note: The EV's main traction battery still powers the motors, so the car can continue to drive, albeit potentially with reduced functionality. However, disconnecting the 12V battery while the car is running is generally not recommended, and it's best to address any issues with the 12V battery when the car is off. 

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Wait what ? Disconnecting the 12V battery the car won't come to an abrupt stop ? Who is this Gemini ?

There was this YouTuber who started creating video online while wearing sunglasses. Guess what he did ? He started his ICE and remove his battery while the engine was running and then CLAIMED that he had driven his vehicle around without the battery !!!! Yup another dildo.

I hope my clients don't see and learn from such dildos. Ultimate sheer stupidity.

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post May 31 2025, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ May 31 2025, 12:14 PM)
BYD already sell like what? 10 thousands of cars the past 3 years in Msia?

If a simple 12v battery failure caused this, there should be at least few hundred cases like this have occured 🤔
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Very easy to replicate the situation one. Who wants to try it with their EV, except for Tesla that uses 16V battery cause I don't have half dead 16V batteries lying around. This is going to be so much fun.

Kejap yang lurkingaround highlighted cases around the world EV owners complaining about their 12V battery, those numbers don't count ? Gugel YouTube so many videos on such issues, they don't count ?

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