kena rm900...
am I kena chopped?
macam really de mahal..

and compressor warranty 3 months only..
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I thought u got super value for AC compressor change, manatau is the SV of Persona...
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used to drive a 95 satria when I was in my late teens. you'll go back if you only change the compressor because other parts are causing it to have a problem so just replacing compressor doesn't help
for my experience at that time, it was the fan and condensor that wasn't cooling the refrigerant (or whatever chemicals) enough and the same AC workshop did not diagnose it and only recommended to keep changing the compressor went to another shop, upgraded the condensor and fan (used 1.8L system) and it was all good after that. |
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Thats almost Sanden with 1y warranty price.
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yes you kena chopped because that rm900 can be used to pay downpayment for new myvi already hassle free karazure and MegaCanonF liked this post
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900 total including installation, troubleshoot? then is ok the compressor alone is not expensive. but the workmanship, parts etc... KenM liked this post
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Shopee sell ori Sanden for 900++
You get a china compressor for 900. What do you think? This post has been edited by guest54321: May 26 2025, 05:03 PM |
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ May 26 2025, 05:01 PM) No lah.In Shopee I see ori SAnden compressor 1k but the OEM compressor is only around 350 average. So, whether TS got ori or OEM, then I don't know. If the workshop say ori then has to take it as ori, unless want to cheat customer. I believe the workshop normally honest one. Baik sangka rtk73 liked this post
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change compressor is that expensive lah
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 26 2025, 05:09 PM) No lah. Not ori. China compressorIn Shopee I see ori SAnden compressor 1k but the OEM compressor is only around 350 average. So, whether TS got ori or OEM, then I don't know. If the workshop say ori then has to take it as ori, unless want to cheat customer. I believe the workshop normally honest one. Baik sangka |
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 26 2025, 05:09 PM) No lah. Did you see the invoice or not? It is written there CHINAIn Shopee I see ori SAnden compressor 1k but the OEM compressor is only around 350 average. So, whether TS got ori or OEM, then I don't know. If the workshop say ori then has to take it as ori, unless want to cheat customer. I believe the workshop normally honest one. Baik sangka |
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about there, janji AC cold and last long.
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QUOTE(novblaze @ May 26 2025, 05:15 PM) Let me check. Axia 600. Don’t forget now full recharge from empty of r134 also 150+ already in most shops. Persona got bigger system so take more gas. Compressor also bigger.This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: May 26 2025, 05:19 PM |
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 26 2025, 05:14 PM) Yup. They see Shopee prices but due to their iq level limitation they forget that labor and installation is not included in shopee prices. don't forget WARRANTY...like real warrantyu buy from shopee, yes got warranty but u ask people to install...clean everything, fill up the gas and everything thn it failed, yes...can claim warranty....so are u gonna pay the man again to take the compressor off so u can go claim warranty? after claim warranty, pay the man again to install all over again? |
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 26 2025, 05:34 PM) don't forget WARRANTY...like real warranty Luckily shop give me three month warranty even on the China one. Two weeks later found oil leaking from the compressor. Turns out they didn’t install the o ring correctlyu buy from shopee, yes got warranty but u ask people to install...clean everything, fill up the gas and everything thn it failed, yes...can claim warranty....so are u gonna pay the man again to take the compressor off so u can go claim warranty? after claim warranty, pay the man again to install all over again? |
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If change at sc quote how much?
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 26 2025, 05:14 PM) Yup. They see Shopee prices but due to their iq level limitation they forget that labor and installation is not included in shopee prices. QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 26 2025, 05:34 PM) don't forget WARRANTY...like real warranty People in this country don't value labor wan.u buy from shopee, yes got warranty but u ask people to install...clean everything, fill up the gas and everything thn it failed, yes...can claim warranty....so are u gonna pay the man again to take the compressor off so u can go claim warranty? after claim warranty, pay the man again to install all over again? Why can't you be more competitive? |
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 26 2025, 05:38 PM) Always boomer uncles who do things like expect hard labor like cut a tree etc and expect pay them rm50 is enough.And because of this most mechanic shop like that one I went to have to use bangla labor now because locals won’t work for the kind of labor rate people are willing to pay for This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: May 26 2025, 05:41 PM |
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 26 2025, 05:36 PM) Luckily shop give me three month warranty even on the China one. Two weeks later found oil leaking from the compressor. Turns out they didn’t install the o ring correctly the shop i went gave me 6 months warrantyi wouldn't say it's china, it's actually local malaysia but they prefer to call it china their so called "china" compressor is actually from here https://www.swj.com.my/public/apps/page/ind...lias=Compressor that's why u see the "SWJ" box on every a/c shops u go This post has been edited by MR_alien: May 26 2025, 05:42 PM |
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RM900 is for compressor, vacuum, add compressor oil and pump new gas in ,+ workmanship. Sounds ok to me.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 26 2025, 05:15 PM) QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 26 2025, 05:36 PM) if shopee sell sanden for 900++ thn shops are gonna priced it at around RM1.5-1.6k Isn't it illegal to combine part and labor cost into one? Especially with E invoicing now?same as what i encounter because you're not getting JUST the compressor bro If you go to a SC surely you will see them itemized This post has been edited by guest54321: May 26 2025, 05:51 PM |
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ May 26 2025, 05:50 PM) Isn't it illegal to combine part and labor cost into one? Especially with E invoicing now? u want itemized receipt also canIf you go to a SC surely you will see them itemized it's the same bro, you don't just buy the compressor...there are other stuffs involved don't expect to pay whatever shopee is listed..that's just the compressor alone and nothing else |
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 26 2025, 05:39 PM) Always boomer uncles who do things like expect hard labor like cut a tree etc and expect pay them rm50 is enough. Why can't Boomers be more competitive and learn to fix their own cars?And because of this most mechanic shop like that one I went to have to use bangla labor now because locals won’t work for the kind of labor rate people are willing to pay for |
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Persona used Sanden compressor? If proton Gen2 they got mixed, some batch using Sanden, some batch using Patco, but not inter-changeable.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 26 2025, 06:20 PM) it is. the problem is the usual one dragon style invoicing by cinamen workshop lazy to breakdown the cost line by line . drs also same problem because they wanna avoid the SST RM500k threshold, mark up the parts price and reduce labour charge. diffyhelman2 liked this post
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QUOTE(novblaze @ May 26 2025, 04:35 PM) I change my air compressor for proton persona super value... Cukur la , my conti hybrid rm15k ac compressorkena rm900... am I kena chopped? macam really de mahal.. ![]() and compressor warranty 3 months only.. LDP liked this post
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QUOTE(novblaze @ May 26 2025, 04:35 PM) I change my air compressor for proton persona super value... If its ori compressor, usually no warranty..if u buy ori denso or ori sanden, no warranty..unless the wiremen sendiri bagi warranty...only recon compressor got warranty...but compressor memang mahal..not cheap one...kena rm900... am I kena chopped? macam really de mahal.. ![]() and compressor warranty 3 months only.. Some conti car, their air cond compressor easily 10K and above..i meant ori compressor.... This post has been edited by LDP: May 26 2025, 08:02 PM |
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Whether 900 or not, is confirm chop Liao, compressor never suddenly spoil wan, at most the clutch only but that coil can replace , however most shop just say change whole compressor
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QUOTE(rcracer @ May 26 2025, 08:14 PM) Whether 900 or not, is confirm chop Liao, compressor never suddenly spoil wan, at most the clutch only but that coil can replace , however most shop just say change whole compressor If the oil seal inside is leaking. Is the same cost to replace. Cos you need to dismantle the whole compressor to replace that seal |
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Mechanic also need money to maintain their vellfire and 3 storey house
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QUOTE(icycokes @ May 26 2025, 04:41 PM) used to drive a 95 satria when I was in my late teens. you'll go back if you only change the compressor because other parts are causing it to have a problem so just replacing compressor doesn't help my kancil last time when on ac, not cold. go shop, shop no check anything straight say need change everything cost rm1.2k.for my experience at that time, it was the fan and condensor that wasn't cooling the refrigerant (or whatever chemicals) enough and the same AC workshop did not diagnose it and only recommended to keep changing the compressor went to another shop, upgraded the condensor and fan (used 1.8L system) and it was all good after that. go another shop ask them topup gas only. cold for atleast 3 months. after that when turn on ac got ktak ktak ktak ktak sound. change compressor only cost rm600. till now that kancil still cold. hopefully can tahan forever lol. kancil really not cheap to jaga lol. i thought very cheap. lucky for pasar only. very easy parking. |
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QUOTE(novblaze @ May 26 2025, 07:48 PM) Tapa la, take it as a fee for learning lesson, u learn something useful and it's stay with u for the rest of ur life + u can kuasa to ur friends, relative, kids and so on, so its not really a very expensive lesson.BTW, suma orang sure got kena chop b4 one, kaw or not only. |
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Early this year Myvi AC not kicking in during idle. Turn off and on AC can get it to work sometimes.
Told my mechanic about it and he says it was a magnetic clutch problem. Got that changed for about RM1xx. He did say the compressor might be failing and fixing the magnetic clutch is like a gamble. But he fixed quite a few Myvi with same problem though. I do not know if other cars would have same type of fix rather than replacing compressor. |
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 26 2025, 08:57 PM) Early this year Myvi AC not kicking in during idle. Turn off and on AC can get it to work sometimes. if your car's ac cold air is on and off = it is the magnetic clutchTold my mechanic about it and he says it was a magnetic clutch problem. Got that changed for about RM1xx. He did say the compressor might be failing and fixing the magnetic clutch is like a gamble. But he fixed quite a few Myvi with same problem though. I do not know if other cars would have same type of fix rather than replacing compressor. but usually after magnetic clutch, your compressor is next make sure you service your a/c system too when u replace the magnetic clutch i usually don't see anyone do it until it's too late and thn blame the a/c for being unreliable or service is just a scam |
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QUOTE(Coldf3ar @ May 26 2025, 08:40 PM) my kancil last time when on ac, not cold. go shop, shop no check anything straight say need change everything cost rm1.2k. dafuq mahal brogo another shop ask them topup gas only. cold for atleast 3 months. after that when turn on ac got ktak ktak ktak ktak sound. change compressor only cost rm600. till now that kancil still cold. hopefully can tahan forever lol. kancil really not cheap to jaga lol. i thought very cheap. lucky for pasar only. very easy parking. 2 years ago drove kancil suddenly A rosak, fix A then B rosak never ending one, count count see the amount better buy new car ayam farkkim regret then bought new car |
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2025, 12:29 PM) usually is scam also. replace cooling coil , replace condenser they won't add back oil. let your compressor kaput, then kaput Liao all the metal contaminated the system never replace or flush. then put new compressor run again , metal come out either clog condenser or cooling coil. and keep repeating over and over |
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QUOTE(rcracer @ May 27 2025, 12:38 PM) usually is scam also. replace cooling coil , replace condenser they won't add back oil. let your compressor kaput, then kaput Liao all the metal contaminated the system never replace or flush. then put new compressor run again , metal come out either clog condenser or cooling coil. and keep repeating over and over Omg then keep on 1k and 1k |
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If go sanden website, they got list workshop use their brand...haizzz my comp also having problem need change edi....sure money terbang
Pomen aircond very syiok....1 ori comp siap pasang can 1k plus... This post has been edited by hickups: May 27 2025, 01:49 PM |
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 26 2025, 08:57 PM) Early this year Myvi AC not kicking in during idle. Turn off and on AC can get it to work sometimes. i think my car is having this problem sometimes. Idle in big traffic light, at first there was AC but then slowly no AC, got one time it got so hot even tho maxed out cool and fan speed.Told my mechanic about it and he says it was a magnetic clutch problem. Got that changed for about RM1xx. He did say the compressor might be failing and fixing the magnetic clutch is like a gamble. But he fixed quite a few Myvi with same problem though. I do not know if other cars would have same type of fix rather than replacing compressor. should i go SC check for that magnetic clutch problem or compressor? Or i just go any AC workshop services? |
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confirmed kena scammed. conti punya just this price. yours i think should bel below rm100. s@ni kan>?> |
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system ac if already black'd, need to change whole system. need, must, need, must. otherwise, it will be never ending story. even full flushing wont guarentee it. |
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QUOTE(conan1 @ May 27 2025, 03:56 PM) just food for thought Yes. flushing is another big scam because you literally can't flush metal gunk out of those tiny, brittle fins and tubes in the coils. in the course of flushing, you are just clogging or making the coils leak instead. This is also why you go service AC, they never dare to give you any warranty. Money suckers.system ac if already black'd, need to change whole system. need, must, need, must. otherwise, it will be never ending story. even full flushing wont guarentee it. That's why people would rather spend 2k just replace the whole system rather than do double triple work. |
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ May 27 2025, 04:04 PM) Yes. flushing is another big scam because you literally can't flush metal gunk out of those tiny, brittle fins and tubes in the coils. in the course of flushing, you are just clogging or making the coils leak instead. This is also why you go service AC, they never dare to give you any warranty. Money suckers. replace whole system 2k can get meh?That's why people would rather spend 2k just replace the whole system rather than do double triple work. compressor already 900 conddnsor lagi cooling coil lagi pipes Lagi gas lagi |
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QUOTE(rcracer @ May 27 2025, 08:13 PM) Deswai sifu tell you if your system not that cold anymore but goT still a bit of cooling ie still some gas and oil in the system, faster go to shop, don’t wait until completely no gas and oil in the system and the compressor overheat and blow up contaminating the whole system. |
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2025, 10:15 PM) Actual cooling coil is the most expensive when you factor in the labor. Some cars to dismantle the dashboard is a nightmare My estimation is assuming labor to be separated from parts. hence, 3-4k.This post has been edited by guest54321: May 27 2025, 10:38 PM |
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2025, 10:17 PM) Deswai sifu tell you if your system not that cold anymore but goT still a bit of cooling ie still some gas and oil in the system, faster go to shop, don’t wait until completely no gas and oil in the system and the compressor overheat and blow up contaminating the whole system. Absolutely true, and sometimes they recommend to add oil, just add, if you have never added before or have changed components before but don't remember paying for added oil, do it |
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 27 2025, 10:17 PM) Deswai sifu tell you if your system not that cold anymore but goT still a bit of cooling ie still some gas and oil in the system, faster go to shop, don’t wait until completely no gas and oil in the system and the compressor overheat and blow up contaminating the whole system. Wtf I drive with rosak compressor for few weeks |
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May 28 2025, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 28 2025, 01:03 AM) can, thats what the sifu tell you, if aircon totally not cold, dont turn it on ,bring it to the workshop. its like an engine, you dont want to run an engine with no oil. JohnL77 liked this post
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depend on brand type. can get OEM from 300+ to 600+. kalau ori, should be around 800+ to 900+.
oso need to know the cost of replacing condenser etc bila tukar compressor + workmanship. so should be around 900+- for oem... or more for ori... This post has been edited by burn22: May 28 2025, 07:17 AM |
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QUOTE(novblaze @ May 26 2025, 04:35 PM) I change my air compressor for proton persona super value... lepas ganti compressor check tak lowest temp berapa dapat.?kena rm900... am I kena chopped? macam really de mahal.. ![]() and compressor warranty 3 months only.. if dapat 18c ..and the clutch magnet didnt cut off aircon still have problem. |
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 28 2025, 01:03 AM) Most car aircond I have seen have a pressure switch to to cut the compressor if refrigerant aka gas pressure is too low aka no gas/leaking.But some smarty pants due to no bajet or just plain ignorant chose to temporarily bypass the pressure switch coz thinking still can pakai ma.... aircond shops welcome these people with warm hands Also about the dissing of aircond flush technique in this forum. No wonder Msia cannot move ahead. It is supposedly a preventive maintenance, to change out the PAG according to maintenance schedule. But as with things here, the tech/shop fook it up by not having correct system (gas quatity and quality, PAG type) spec. Also with every flush, you're supposed to change out the filter/drier module as it would have accumulated enough dirts/moisture etc to warrant a change. I have kept my aircond systems in 3 of my cars in excess of 400k km without a compressor change by doing aircond system flush through the years. |
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 28 2025, 02:08 AM) lepas ganti compressor check tak lowest temp berapa dapat.? Yeah man.... if the tech did a good job, the supply air (cooled air at aircond outlets) should measure around 7-9c if everything (condenser, evaporator, gas amount, expansion valve etc) in good working condition.if dapat 18c ..and the clutch magnet didnt cut off aircon still have problem. |
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ May 28 2025, 08:36 AM) Most car aircond I have seen have a pressure switch to to cut the compressor if refrigerant aka gas pressure is too low aka no gas/leaking. Like most preventive maintenance routines, the idea behind AC flushing is sound in theory. However, in practice, it's often done with equipment that hasn’t been properly maintained. If the flushing machine is contaminated, it can introduce debris into an otherwise clean system—doing more harm than good. This is why some people would rather not take the risk. You never know how often workshops maintain their equipment.But some smarty pants due to no bajet or just plain ignorant chose to temporarily bypass the pressure switch coz thinking still can pakai ma.... aircond shops welcome these people with warm hands Also about the dissing of aircond flush technique in this forum. No wonder Msia cannot move ahead. It is supposedly a preventive maintenance, to change out the PAG according to maintenance schedule. But as with things here, the tech/shop fook it up by not having correct system (gas quatity and quality, PAG type) spec. Also with every flush, you're supposed to change out the filter/drier module as it would have accumulated enough dirts/moisture etc to warrant a change. I have kept my aircond systems in 3 of my cars in excess of 400k km without a compressor change by doing aircond system flush through the years. Also, if the system is already dirty, that’s a red flag. The A/C system is sealed, so contamination usually points to a deeper issue, such as compressor failure. It's worth considering: you don’t routinely change the oil in your refrigerator or home air conditioner, because those systems remain sealed and clean under normal conditions. gobiomani, netflix2019, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ May 28 2025, 08:36 AM) Most car aircond I have seen have a pressure switch to to cut the compressor if refrigerant aka gas pressure is too low aka no gas/leaking. Flush what? each flush is what RM150? the ac shop will charge you cos it's eXpEnSiVe MaChInE. you flush how many times already? condensor costs RM150But some smarty pants due to no bajet or just plain ignorant chose to temporarily bypass the pressure switch coz thinking still can pakai ma.... aircond shops welcome these people with warm hands Also about the dissing of aircond flush technique in this forum. No wonder Msia cannot move ahead. It is supposedly a preventive maintenance, to change out the PAG according to maintenance schedule. But as with things here, the tech/shop fook it up by not having correct system (gas quatity and quality, PAG type) spec. Also with every flush, you're supposed to change out the filter/drier module as it would have accumulated enough dirts/moisture etc to warrant a change. I have kept my aircond systems in 3 of my cars in excess of 400k km without a compressor change by doing aircond system flush through the years. change condensor when spoilt is cheaper and less hassle This post has been edited by icycokes: May 28 2025, 10:46 AM |
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ May 28 2025, 08:36 AM) Most car aircond I have seen have a pressure switch to to cut the compressor if refrigerant aka gas pressure is too low aka no gas/leaking. Can you teach me how should I do the flush? How frequent? What need to do? How I tell the mechanic?But some smarty pants due to no bajet or just plain ignorant chose to temporarily bypass the pressure switch coz thinking still can pakai ma.... aircond shops welcome these people with warm hands Also about the dissing of aircond flush technique in this forum. No wonder Msia cannot move ahead. It is supposedly a preventive maintenance, to change out the PAG according to maintenance schedule. But as with things here, the tech/shop fook it up by not having correct system (gas quatity and quality, PAG type) spec. Also with every flush, you're supposed to change out the filter/drier module as it would have accumulated enough dirts/moisture etc to warrant a change. I have kept my aircond systems in 3 of my cars in excess of 400k km without a compressor change by doing aircond system flush through the years. |
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QUOTE(novblaze @ May 28 2025, 06:03 AM) Each you open aircon you car feel cool is it ?have you wonder what temp is it ? if you dont get lowest temp as possible. you compressor magnet clutch wont cut at all. what happend next ? clutch magnet mati awal. the perfect temp for cut off below 10c. we call this sejuk beku if you just get 18c - 20c aircon got problem. Clutch wont ever never cut-off. novblaze liked this post
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ May 28 2025, 08:39 AM) Yeah man.... if the tech did a good job, the supply air (cooled air at aircond outlets) should measure around 7-9c if everything (condenser, evaporator, gas amount, expansion valve etc) in good working condition. there a case everything change. pomen pening kepala.gatal tangan change thermostat. terus sejuk beku |
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QUOTE(novblaze @ May 28 2025, 06:30 PM) Ask yourself this question. Your fridge at home has been on since day 1 and the compressor keeps working until the end of time but why no company is telling you to service it by flushing the oil? gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(novblaze @ May 28 2025, 06:30 PM) I can't teach you how, but I can only share how I did it. Is that fine? Since you have just repaired your system, it should be running fine I guess. So maintenance is up only a few years down the road. Immediate attention would be your cabin filter. Get it checked (DIY better, easy for proton). How often? I don't set a schedule on doing flush coz I only have old cars, so things may fook up any moment. But on comparatively newer ones, I will flush it, say, every 4yrs or 100k km. What need to do? For now just look around areas that you frequent and take note of any mech/aircond/accessories shop that have an aircon flushing machine. If possible don't be shy to go take a close look at the condition of the machine; meters still OK? filter at side/back looks well maintained? waste oil can still OK? most importantly asked the boss how much and what job scope? Then decide when time comes, where/which shop you want to try. For further info, read through the thread in fast&furious below for more info and photo and form your own opinion. Link attached. Aircond flush thread Good luck |
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ May 29 2025, 10:03 AM) Ask yourself this question. Your fridge at home has been on since day 1 and the compressor keeps working until the end of time but why no company is telling you to service it by flushing the oil? theres a few differences btw car ac and fridge/house airconthe car ones use o-rings for all the joints, while fridge and house aircond copper pipe are soldered together. so while both are supposedly sealed systems, the car one is less sealed and will leak gas/oil slowly over time. most important is that the o-rings harden and age with time so this is a bigger problem with old cars. also the conditions a car compressor runs in are far harsher than a house fridge or aircon, sitting inside a hot engine bay and been exposed to road conditions. how does PAG oil flush help with this? not very sure, but perhaps car compressor oil breakdown faster than household fridge. most important is I guess when you bring to do a system flush the machines also does a full vacuum, recharge and topup of your system oil and thats what really helps keeping the compressor in shape. gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 29 2025, 02:05 PM) theres a few differences btw car ac and fridge/house aircon Do you regularly service your car aircond? I drove my car until 100,000km never serviced the aircond. The thing that leaked was the heatsink part. For car aircond that part call what? Fins?the car ones use o-rings for all the joints, while fridge and house aircond copper pipe are soldered together. so while both are supposedly sealed systems, the car one is less sealed and will leak gas/oil slowly over time. most important is that the o-rings harden and age with time so this is a bigger problem with old cars. also the conditions a car compressor runs in are far harsher than a house fridge or aircon, sitting inside a hot engine bay and been exposed to road conditions. how does PAG oil flush help with this? not very sure, but perhaps car compressor oil breakdown faster than household fridge. most important is I guess when you bring to do a system flush the machines also does a full vacuum, recharge and topup of your system oil and thats what really helps keeping the compressor in shape. |
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 29 2025, 02:08 PM) Do you regularly service your car aircond? I drove my car until 100,000km never serviced the aircond. The thing that leaked was the heatsink part. For car aircond that part call what? Fins? i only change the cabin filter. heatsink part = condenseri regret doing a flush, because at about 80K after that the condenser leaked. dunno if it was related. whatever I ended up changing the condenser and compressor for rm900 altogether. |
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ May 28 2025, 10:20 AM) Like most preventive maintenance routines, the idea behind AC flushing is sound in theory. However, in practice, it's often done with equipment that hasn’t been properly maintained. If the flushing machine is contaminated, it can introduce debris into an otherwise clean system—doing more harm than good. This is why some people would rather not take the risk. You never know how often workshops maintain their equipment. so dont do flushing? but should we change the compressor oil?Also, if the system is already dirty, that’s a red flag. The A/C system is sealed, so contamination usually points to a deeper issue, such as compressor failure. It's worth considering: you don’t routinely change the oil in your refrigerator or home air conditioner, because those systems remain sealed and clean under normal conditions. |
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 29 2025, 02:11 PM) i only change the cabin filter. heatsink part = condenser Normal wear and tear kot? Mine also leaked around that mileage.i regret doing a flush, because at about 80K after that the condenser leaked. dunno if it was related. whatever I ended up changing the condenser and compressor for rm900 altogether. |
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 29 2025, 02:05 PM) theres a few differences btw car ac and fridge/house aircon Leaking and topping up gas isn’t a big issue. But like I mentioned earlier. if there’s a leak, you’ll already notice a drop in A/C performance. That’s the time to replace the O-rings or affected parts and not get sidetracked doing unnecessary flushes. This is exactly why some people complain their A/C stops being cold again just a few months after servicing because the root cause (like a leaking seal) wasn’t fixed.the car ones use o-rings for all the joints, while fridge and house aircond copper pipe are soldered together. so while both are supposedly sealed systems, the car one is less sealed and will leak gas/oil slowly over time. most important is that the o-rings harden and age with time so this is a bigger problem with old cars. also the conditions a car compressor runs in are far harsher than a house fridge or aircon, sitting inside a hot engine bay and been exposed to road conditions. how does PAG oil flush help with this? not very sure, but perhaps car compressor oil breakdown faster than household fridge. most important is I guess when you bring to do a system flush the machines also does a full vacuum, recharge and topup of your system oil and thats what really helps keeping the compressor in shape. Yes, car A/C systems operate in harsher conditions, but let’s not forget: your fridge compressor runs 24/7, non-stop. Most cars are driven just an hour or two a day. My old fridge is over 15 years old and still working fine. In the end, as long as the system is sealed and properly maintained, the PAG oil inside can easily outlast the car. The so-called "oil degradation" usually only happens because the compressor is already wearing out due to age or high mileage — not because the oil randomly breaks down. |
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ May 29 2025, 02:12 PM) if you ask me, if ac still cold, no funny humming noises just leave it alone. But always good to check for leaks in the system.flushing or changing compressor oil requires the machine and sometimes on a busy weekend i see a long queue of cars going through the same machine. Do i want that machine to go anywhere near my ac system? Probably not. This post has been edited by guest54321: May 29 2025, 05:16 PM rcracer and diffyhelman2 liked this post
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 29 2025, 02:12 PM) Probably hit a stone while driving. Condenser fins are very very thin and fragile.That's why old honest mechanic always say ac no issue dont kacau. Because in this case, you will need to open up the AC system to replace the condenser, then you need to do a compulsory round of flush/vacuum/recharge. Then you realized all that money you spent for flushing before is pointless. JohnL77 liked this post
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ May 29 2025, 07:33 PM) Probably hit a stone while driving. Condenser fins are very very thin and fragile. Deswai when the fancy SC recommend me service aircond every X km I didn't do because the manual said SC supposed to check the condition see whether need to service or not. Then I became Senaxis loyal customer, they never recommend me service aircond.That's why old honest mechanic always say ac no issue dont kacau. Because in this case, you will need to open up the AC system to replace the condenser, then you need to do a compulsory round of flush/vacuum/recharge. Then you realized all that money you spent for flushing before is pointless. guest54321 liked this post
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 29 2025, 02:11 PM) i only change the cabin filter. heatsink part = condenser So cheap??? 900 for both compressor and condenseri regret doing a flush, because at about 80K after that the condenser leaked. dunno if it was related. whatever I ended up changing the condenser and compressor for rm900 altogether. |
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ May 29 2025, 05:03 PM) if you ask me, if ac still cold, no funny humming noises just leave it alone. But always good to check for leaks in the system. need to attend to abnormal noise from magnetic clutch.flushing or changing compressor oil requires the machine and sometimes on a busy weekend i see a long queue of cars going through the same machine. Do i want that machine to go anywhere near my ac system? Probably not. if it is slipping, it will overheated and spoil the compressor shaft seal and caused leaking. car ac problem always starts with leaking + poor workmanship. if lines is containminated with black powder from compressor, flushing the whole system before fitting with new compressor is necesssary. flushing also make sure oil is correctly metered. |
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QUOTE(6942nole @ May 29 2025, 08:19 PM) need to attend to abnormal noise from magnetic clutch. my compressor no clutch one. if there's any noise, i guess a new compressor replacement.if it is slipping, it will overheated and spoil the compressor shaft seal and caused leaking. car ac problem always starts with leaking + poor workmanship. if lines is containminated with black powder from compressor, flushing the whole system before fitting with new compressor is necesssary. flushing also make sure oil is correctly metered. yes, once system is opened need to do all that. |
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QUOTE(novblaze @ May 26 2025, 04:35 PM) I change my air compressor for proton persona super value... 3 months is nth, but almost all oem 3 months warranty, my car aircond has leaking issue, every time top up can last about 6 months, you see in this case if i change the new OEM one, the warranty is only 3 months but if after 6 months it start leaking again how do i know if they really changed the parts.kena rm900... am I kena chopped? macam really de mahal.. ![]() and compressor warranty 3 months only.. |
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