When BlackBerry (the then number 1 mobile phone company in the world) CEO saw the iPhone announcement, he thought "Long way to go, current mobile network won't be able to keep up, we still got many years to sit back on our traditional product".

Less than 10 years later, BlackBerry got wrecked and forgotten.

No harm sticking to ICE, but to totally ignore EV is a mistake as well.

This post has been edited by Mixxomon: May 26 2025, 05:28 PM

You doubt the Chinese ability to make battery at cabbage prices?

EV is the future?

It in nowlah, what future

Live in cave is it?

Yeah, the future to their profits must be, but doing it wrong with their EV Hr-V.

Can reduce cost but selling price every year increase...

tesla first EV is around 2008. BYD first EV around 2009. and now is 2025, honda still talking like this?? still need another 10 years before honda get replaced by BYD and/or other car manufacturer??

Tesla show how to do it, others don't get it don't have a good product their EV can't sell so they blame the whole ev lol

Existing manufacturer has a vested interest not to develop to deeply into EV because it will cannibalize their existing market share. That's why you need a non automobile company like Tesla who has every interest to make it work.

Kodak did the same thing. They invented digital camera but did not develop further because it's eating their traditional film business. Others develop the technology and killed Kodak in the end.

This post has been edited by Mixxomon: May 26 2025, 05:43 PM

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2035 is only because of the government EV mandate by CCP China, California + 12 liberal US states, Canada, UK, the EU, Australia, etc, ie only new EV cars can be sold on 1 Jan 2036.

But there is pushback against the 2035 EV Mandate, eg, .......

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-gop-set...nuclear-option/ - Senate votes to revoke California's EV emissions waivers - 22 May 2025
The Senate on Thursday voted to revoke three vehicle emissions waivers in California, a controversial move that the chamber's parliamentarian says Republican lawmakers may not have the right to make.

The vote was 51-44, with Democratic Sen. Elissa Slotkin of Michigan joining Republicans in voting in favor of revoking the waivers.

Ahead of the vote, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, a New York Democrat, called it "the nuclear option."

The three waivers the Senate revoked set stricter vehicle emissions standards than federal regulations. Two waivers relate to reducing tailpipe emissions from medium and heavy-duty vehicles, as well as limiting smog pollution from trucks.

The last is what's frequently called California's "EV mandate," a rule that aims to phase-out gas powered cars and require all new vehicle sales in California be zero emissions by 2035. The rule to phase out gas powered vehicles goes into effect in 2026.

California was granted the ability to enact stricter vehicle emissions standards than the federal government under the Clean Air Act in a process that involves receiving a waiver from the Environmental Protection Agency if the regulations meet certain requirements. The three waivers in question were approved by the Biden administration's Environmental Protection Agency in 2024. ...
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: May 26 2025, 05:50 PM

Yes.. future like in 2100..

to beat EV have to be Hydrogen ICE.

https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/756263


Our analysis proved that batteries can last longer — because when the manufacturer [makes] the battery, it can last about 15 to 20 years. But the lifespan of the battery is reduced by the weather, driving conditions and recharging mechanisms,” says Jay.

By refurbishing hybrid batteries using this approach, HiiVolt can extend battery life by another three to five years — cutting down on both waste and cost.

Fuuu specialist in refurbishing batteries 3rd party sudah ada

Machem high skilled industry

They have the market cornered, sure they won't try to break it..making billions without competition anyone get comfy

Until Tesla come and sold a package, a car plus charging and the software in line with modern life..suddenly ppl are buying a Tesla than ice..it's such a threat need to spend money propaganda against ev and keep trying to stop or delay ppl buying ev lol

https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/756680

Revisions by BYD include paring the price of its Seagull hatchback to 55,800 yuan (US$7,780 or RM32,609), a 20% reduction to a model that was already the carmaker’s cheapest and one that had garnered global attention for its sub-US$10,000 price tag. The Seal dual-motor hybrid sedan saw the biggest price cut at 34%, or by 53,000 yuan to 102,800 yuan.

If Japan goes total EV, all their small ICE car parts manufacturers will go belly up because EVs have very few moving parts. That's why they die2 defend ICE for as long as possible. Those that die2 defend ICE here I suspect are involved somewhat in the ICE car trade and maintenance business in Malaysia.

BYD Seagull starts from just rm33k there in motherland…

Still cant beat lurkingaround favourite ajia tin kosong rahmah

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Fyi, Tesla has only a 4% market share in the total overall US car maket in Q1 2025.

In 2024, gas/petrol-powered cars still has a 78% market share in the total overall US car market.
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FYI, the US has near zero High Speed Rail network. Low speed passenger inter-city rail network also hopeless.

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IINM, you are a Solar PV installer, eg for house roofs = you die2 defend EV, esp if used together with a Home Solar Roof system.
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Solar panels to reduce a huge part of monthly electricity bill also good enough already, no need to charge EVs. It's a bonus for the environment and your pocket if your panels are big enough to also charge EVs.