Meanwhile CEO Batu..

nvm

Future or Failure?

hydrogen hahahahha

end up get sued by those buy into toyota promised future

focus on commercial first, need alot development like ev to be viable for consumer..too much issue for now

Ev companies can tahan so long boh…

Sticking with ICE probably a better deal, since China is flooding the market with EV cars. In about 8 years from now, when all the warranty run out, battery dead and software obsolete... boi those cars aren't moving anywhere anytime other than the scrap yard.

10 years old tesla model s still alive and kicking. only idiot will think battery will drop dead the following day after the 8 years warranty over.

your ipong battery still ok after 1 year warranty?

just wait 2nd generation EV in kambing .

Hatchback with 600km or 700km
Sedan with 800km above
SUV with 800km above
MPV with 500km above

at this moment EV still in war each other

masa smartphone keluar pun macam tu juga
Iphone & Samsung gaduh-gaduh.
in kambing Xiaomi ...all spec with good prices.

u think so easy like WIFI and USB standard?

each manufacturer had their own strength and agenda so who follow who? CCP gomen?

no to ev

Honda EV ada RV kah? Siapa cakap EV ada RV yg bagus.

Cars refresh typically 5-10 years. Even like the Honda Civic FC, the refresh was delayed because of Covid and the refresh was extended to 6 years before Civic FE came out.

Yes, 10 years for Tesla models, sure look at their car sales now. Even BYD out sale Tesla now.

Of cause there are other factors battery might not drop that on the 8th year, maybe cause the car hardly used etc... but even before 8th year, battery also causing issues to cars, either blowing up or cause cars to stall.

Hey, don't have to believe me, my ICE cars are holding resale value pretty well.

Tan Chong mah..bunch of old farts clinging to past successes like 120Y, Sunny and Sentra. Any new tech push aside..
Maciem P2 in future, sell car onli, batteries not included.



This post has been edited by pgsiemkia: May 26 2025, 03:41 PM

lol toyota already knew this 15 years ago.

who say cannot use after 10 years high mileage somemore and no more warranty on battery

smol generator to power small pack of batteries, naiisee

Not sure if I misunderstood, but I think Honda will be going with a hybrid EV instead of full EV. It will not only be for charging the battery or it would be very inefficient.

Instead of continuous switching of gears like on a CVT, they use the engine for pickup and vroom vroom. And then switch to the electric motor for cruising.

I think.

Meaning 20-30 years later? Makes sense la for me. That’s why I keep saying now is not the time.

These Japanese ICE makers are desperately hoping that it would be 20 to 30 years later because they have missed the boat, badly betting wrongly on wrong techs.

No expertise in new generation EV battery and EV software at all, what do you expect them to do? Of course they can hope only.

That's why they can only sell EVs made by China joint-venture manufacturers under their own brand at the moment.

No wrong or right. Many manufacturers also bet on EV many decades also, end up all failed badly, hence ICE reign till today. Who dare to say EV will win this time and won’t repeat previous failures?

EV will win this time because current EV models from China are already enjoying success because of their lower prices and very good performance. Just not too long ago you can only buy an EV for a few hundred thousand ringgit. Now you can get one for one hundred thousand ringgit. Lower if CKD policy replaces CBU policy in half a year's time.