i try to make it simple

what i currently do with my bike
1) Go nearby and do errands
2) Send kid to school
3) Go to work.. 20km commute one way
4) sometimes go touring (Fraser, Genting, TITIKONG - planning to go further)

What i currently using
Xmax 250

What i plan to upgrade to
Transalps 750
NX500 - too small for me

why i want to upgrade
I fully utilized the current bike and want more power ... i dont speed(max 110-120) but sometimes i feel the bike not moving or acceleration tak cukup

Advise needed
Any other bikes that can do all the above or somewhere close?

Have you tried the transalps 750?
Its a pretty tall bike if you are moving from a scooter.
If you are not really planning to go offroad maybe can consider something like suzuki vstrom 650 or the new 800re/de or kawa versys 650.
If you dont mind cfmoto, maybe 700mt. More similar to the transalp with lower seat but heavier.
They all should have the torque that you need and still capable of being a daily bike.

I tried transalps..
Its just nice for me .. (I am 6 foot tall) despite me feeling its small

Yes scooter is really really short

How about if your kid able to get on and off the bike?
Maybe can consider that also.

If you are already feeling good on the transalp I think not much can change your mind

Not really set yet.

Maybe follow ur advise go look at CF moto or mt07

Purpose 1/2/3 conflict with 4, especially if you commute often in bumper-to-bumper traffic.

Then your touring is actually long distance touring or you're there to attack corners? Cause the destinations you listed seem like the latter :X

cfmoto also just launched 800 mtx recently. You might want to check that out.
Considering your current option is transalp 750 that is priced around 57k,
some other options you can consider:
-suzuki vstrom 650, you can find this used on older models priced under 20k or a new one at 46k
-vstrom 800, new price 55k close to the transalp you can choose between offroad variant and road focused variant.
-kawasaki versys 650, probably the most boring one out of the others in this recommendation but also a tank in term of reliability (on par with suzuki vstrom 650)
-cfmoto 800 mtx, new model, similar to ktm 790 adv. has low-slung fuel tank making handling easier compared to other adv bikes. 49k with boxes.
-voge ds900x, another china offering. using bmw's f900 gs engine. 48k with boxes.

I honestly believe you'd have no problem to use these bikes as daily because you have size advantage
Of course do try to test them and if possible push them around with full tank to actually gauge your capability on handling them.

if you want naked bike, cfmoto 800nk or the new yamaha mt09.

TS, if u really want more powa.. can consider Tmax lo or equivalent.. my opinions la.

The main bug bear of the more off road orientated middle weight ADVs like the Transalp, 800MTX, 800DE, Voge 900ds is they have 21" front wheels.

Those work well in rougher terrain, but if you dont plan on taking the bike off road, the big wheels compromises on-road handling and feel. Try to shop bikes that uses a 17" or 19" front wheel (if you do plan on some light off roading)

That said, I have not been on the 800MTX, but the KTM 790 Adventure is a very very good handling bike for something with a 21" front wheel. Possibly the best. The 800MTX is a clone of that bike. I personally am looking forward to testing that bike when it is available.

The Transalp is a nice bike. But it is big and wide, not something you would like to thread between traffic on the daily.

From what your riding description states, you would probably be better served by a tall sports touring bike rather than an ADV. Say something like the Triumph Tiger sport 650/800 or the Suzuki 800RE (the more road focused version of the off-road 800DE) Other options would the evergreen Versys or the older Vstrom 650..

Going with 17/17 or 19/17 wheel combo also has the benefit of having much better availability of road focused rubber.


any 700 and up class bike would be a huge jump in power compared to your xmax. You are looking at 3x the power and torque. Thats pretty much overkill for someone who stays at the speed limit. Pretty sure with 80 to 100hp, you wont be riding at the speed limit though.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: May 27 2025, 05:22 PM

THanks for advise

only reason i choosing transalps is because of the recent advert push from many content creators as well as i am quite used to a 750 (Had a Xadv 750 - sold it since some one offer a crazy price to take it off my hands)
plus i am a quite a loyalist to Honda..

Some bikes added to the list
1) Triump Tiger
2) Suzuki 800RE
3) CF Moto 800MTX
4) BMW F900 GS - Top of my to consider list now

This post has been edited by selenium: May 27 2025, 08:29 PM

Some of these middle weight ADVs have close to if not more than twice the power of the xadv. If you don't need that power it's kind of a waste.

I know you said the 500x feels small to you but small has it's benefits in daily use with tried and tested reliability and extremely good fuel economy. The outgoing 500x and newer NX500 brings a lot of upgrades to the 500x lineup with dual front brakes, upgraded suspension and better TFT screen. It's still a relatively simple bike. Other than it being a bit boring, these aren't much vices on the 500 honda.

It doesn't seem that you do a lot of big long distance trips so a big overly upsized and powerful adv tourer may be a bit of a waste.

And if you are considering dipping your toes into off roading, getting a big ADV is usually a mistake people only realise later. In reality, everyone does better on a smaller and lighter 250/400 on loose terrain than a 250kg big ADV.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: May 28 2025, 08:12 AM

Maybe I should give the nx500 another try
I like its simplicity with only its size putting me off...

Thanks for the advise... will definitely test ride and maybe get one for long distance rides 😀

The only thing going against the NX/ 500x is the rather pedestrian engine and the price tag. 37k opens up a lot of other bikes, especially Chinese ones.

Them 500 engines are known to go well over 200k with just regular services and run 500kms on a tank.

Unless you somehow get racun by 100hp, the NX will do just fine....unless you plan to ride with much bigger, powerful bikes, with quicker riders.

That's my main concern actually

I ride a few big bikes and feel that the 750cc 60 ish hp engine is just nice for me(Xadv 750).. but will need to test ride the nx500 to see how it feels just to be certain....

Mmmm...am the opposite of you... from numerous above 500cc clutch bike tone back down to scooter. have been lying to myself (shiok sendiri), after ride each bike for a year, backside itchy change, also i wanna experience as much bike as possible (i bought used most of the time) before knee start to kacau. this is my own personal take lah...

I dont like tong (top, side box) on a bike.

Each time with Adventure or naked bike or cruiser, i need to bring a back pack with me... be it tire pump or going out to dapau food balik.

yes, no doubt the andrenalin of a bigger cc thrills u, but how long one to ride 160-200kmh , 30 mins, full 1 hour with the wind blasting... yes lah... once a while ok

why scooter, i could chuck all stuffs inside the tong, traffic jam a breeze.... both legs retired liao.... just play with brakes only.

sure i miss the andrenalin rush of a big bike torque... but have to tell myself not to be cheated with ownself again.

on the money side, other than those can sup sup water afford a bike lah... i paid montly 300-600 per month (depend what bike u buy lah) , say if i pay RM500 a month, thats RM125 a week on average... for me riding every or twice a week, macam am donating to the bank interest, not fully utilized like when one own a car usually daily userd. sometimes i think better once a month go rent a big bike for the weekend... can choose the bike summore. maybe any accountant here can verifed if its more worth it...

hence need to ask oneself what is your riding style... got join poison group or not, if sometimes want andrenalin and also dapau food, sent children school, get 2 bikes, 1 small scooter non clutch and 1 maybe a used big bike, XJ6 price depend on one budget. than u have both world.