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 Govt ready 2 review e-Invoicing to avoid burdening, Anwar

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post Jun 6 2025, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 26 2025, 09:29 PM)
DAP can control LHDN so powderful? laugh.gif

LHDN all the while memang want to implement this lah, regardless who become the government.
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Once the system is fully in force, they can just write a query to find out which person/company that has been f**king them all this while.
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post Jun 6 2025, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Jun 6 2025, 09:44 AM)
Once the system is fully in force,  they can just write a query to find out which person/company that has been f**king them all this while.
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Yes, no more backdated large amount of purchase invoice.
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post Jun 6 2025, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 6 2025, 09:31 AM)
I don't think need e invoice for personal income tax relief. If you see what sst plus e invoice is it's basically gst. A way to pass tax to the consumer.
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 6 2025, 09:37 AM)
Thanks for clarifying.  Cos the earlier directive was we must key in the e-invoice numbers in our tax declaration or smoothing like this and everyone has a digital ID which they can do so.
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In future u need e-invoice to claim tax relief, especially purchase of laptop/smartphone, books, gym subscription, dental/medical, insurance etc.

Won't be surprise LHDN will enforce this to prevent people create fake invoice to claim tax relief.
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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Jun 6 2025, 09:44 AM)
Once the system is fully in force,  they can just write a query to find out which person/company that has been f**king them all this while.
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Then found out is boss punya sdn bhd. How? Whistle blow? It will be funny to see tis.
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 6 2025, 09:55 AM)
In future u need e-invoice to claim tax relief, especially purchase of laptop/smartphone, books, gym subscription, dental/medical, insurance etc.

Won't be surprise LHDN will enforce this to prevent people create fake invoice to claim tax relief.
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That was my understanding as well.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 5 2025, 10:16 PM)
500k and below - no E-Invoice

Comfirm.??
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KUALA LUMPUR: The Inland Revenue Board (LHDN) today announced that the implementation phase for e-invoices for taxpayers with annual income or sales exceeding RM1 million but not exceeding RM5 million has been postponed to Jan 1, 2026.

In a statement here, LHDN also announced that taxpayers with an annual income or sales below RM500,000 are exempted from the implementation of the e-Invoice system.

"The implementation phase for taxpayers with annual income or sales up to RM1 million has been postponed to July 1, 2026," LHDN said.

The board added that the decision was made after the government recognised the commitments of taxpayers, particularly Micro, Small, and Medium Enterprises (MSMEs), in meeting e-invoice legal requirements, which necessitate adequate preparation time and face numerous implementation challenges.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 26 2025, 09:29 PM)
DAP can control LHDN so powderful? laugh.gif

LHDN all the while memang want to implement this lah, regardless who become the government.
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e-Invois under LHDN meh
then how come GST was under Kastam

have you ever heard Najib BN wanted to introduce e-Invois?

essentially with GST in place, there's no need for separate e-Invois mah

why Mahathir Tokong LGE abolished GST, and Mahaidani want to bring e-Invois, is this not LPPL?

govt deficit no money then no money lah, why abolished GST in the first place? Lapizi LGE Mahathir Anwar semua bodo
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Forawhile I read to avoid burdening Anwar
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 6 2025, 11:22 AM)
e-Invois under LHDN meh
then how come GST was under Kastam

have you ever heard Najib BN wanted to introduce e-Invois?

essentially with GST in place, there's no need for separate e-Invois mah

why Mahathir Tokong LGE abolished GST, and Mahaidani want to bring e-Invois, is this not LPPL?

govt deficit no money then no money lah, why abolished GST in the first place? Lapizi LGE Mahathir Anwar semua bodo
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e-invoice database store in LHDN server, GST place under Kastam because of Najib arrangement, he task Kastam to study worldwide VAT/GST.

e-invoice has been under LHDN planning regardless who in power, the main purpose is to catch the under radar tax evader.

GST back then shouldn't be abolish, in fact they should reduce 1-2% and increase the threshold limit, then slowly amend it. GST and petrol subsidies is politician archilles heel
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 6 2025, 09:18 AM)
Whilst we talk about companies, how about individual claims for income tax?  Do we need e-invoice to be able to considered for tax exemption, eg for purchases like health watches, EVs, E-motors etc…

Anyone has any ideas?  Remember that even normal residents is supposedly to be under the e-invoice scheme by end Dec-25.  With this scrapping for those under 500k income, how about normal citizens for income tax claims/tax deduction?
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with e-invoice, the company who sold the product/service will have to provide the details to LHDN.. consumer don have to do anything..

the kindergarten that my children go to already asking for my TIN..
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QUOTE(seather @ Jun 6 2025, 11:33 AM)
with e-invoice, the company who sold the product/service will have to provide the details to LHDN.. consumer don have to do anything..

the kindergarten that my children go to already asking for my TIN..
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Thanks. I always thought it is the consumer to update this for tax deduction in LHDN systems. Look at the fast food receipt. They want u to scan and update urself to get a copy of the e-invoice.

In those regular situations like kindy, CC, etc, maybe they added in as part of software.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 6 2025, 09:55 AM)
In future u need e-invoice to claim tax relief, especially purchase of laptop/smartphone, books, gym subscription, dental/medical, insurance etc.

Won't be surprise LHDN will enforce this to prevent people create fake invoice to claim tax relief.
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Definitely going to be enforce in the future for personal relief. Too many cases of people sharing receipt for computer purchase, mobile phone.
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QUOTE(seather @ Jun 6 2025, 11:33 AM)
with e-invoice, the company who sold the product/service will have to provide the details to LHDN.. consumer don have to do anything..

the kindergarten that my children go to already asking for my TIN..
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if u don't need the e-invoice, u don't have to provide TIN number to them.

Many merchant misunderstand the concept of e-invoice and start asking around TIN number, normally B2C no need, B2B normally will request for e-invoice in order to claim as tax deductible expense.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 6 2025, 07:07 PM)
if u don't need the e-invoice, u don't have to provide TIN number to them.

Many merchant misunderstand the concept of e-invoice and start asking around TIN number, normally B2C no need, B2B normally will request for e-invoice in order to claim as tax deductible expense.
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I think you still have to. The kindy has to key in the customer name and TIN as part of input, if I am not mistaken. This is for traceability purposes.
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 6 2025, 07:18 PM)
I think you still have to.  The kindy has to key in the customer name and TIN as part of input, if I am not mistaken.  This is for traceability purposes.
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For b2c I think no need, but if the c wants to claim tax deductable then..
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QUOTE(coconutxyz @ Jun 6 2025, 08:29 PM)
For b2c I think no need, but if the c wants to claim tax deductable then..
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So here's the problem. Below 500 mil, don't need to do e invoice.

So if my customer want receipt with e invoice I don't have the system to do it.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 7 2025, 12:38 AM)
So here's the problem. Below 500 mil, don't need to do e invoice.

So if my customer want receipt with e invoice I don't have the system to do it.
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Below 500k ezempted for now, but the issue is also need to explain to customer your annual revenue

The implementation is just topkek
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 6 2025, 07:18 PM)
I think you still have to.  The kindy has to key in the customer name and TIN as part of input, if I am not mistaken.  This is for traceability purposes.
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You can always say you don't have a TIN yet and the seller has to send the transaction using a consolidated TIN.
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QUOTE(billylks @ Jun 7 2025, 12:18 AM)
You can always say you don't have a TIN yet and the seller has to send the transaction using a consolidated TIN.
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Just go to LHDN website, key in the IC and it will give you the TIN..
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 6 2025, 07:18 PM)
I think you still have to.  The kindy has to key in the customer name and TIN as part of input, if I am not mistaken.  This is for traceability purposes.
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You only need to give your full name and either yr IC or Tin will do. Of cos you can provide both if you want

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 7 2025, 12:38 AM)
So here's the problem. Below 500 mil, don't need to do e invoice.

So if my customer want receipt with e invoice I don't have the system to do it.
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below 500k lar.
You are not required to provide einv

QUOTE(coconutxyz @ Jun 6 2025, 08:29 PM)
For b2c I think no need, but if the c wants to claim tax deductable then..
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As at now. Normal inv still can claim for personal relief as not yet fully implement E-Invoice
But with current 500k exemption, there will be a lot company not under E-Invoice.
Me not so sure Lhdn can implement next stage of controlling personal relief, other income and etc
It kind of reduced the purpose of e-inv with 500k exemption

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