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 Govt ready 2 review e-Invoicing to avoid burdening, Anwar

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milolauda
post Jun 7 2025, 06:04 AM

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gst is the easiest

why they dun use it ?
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post Jun 7 2025, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(milolauda @ Jun 7 2025, 06:04 AM)
gst is the easiest

why they dun use it ?
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If not how to kencing on their voters? Already promised abolish gst, but didn't promise won't implement new tax system, especially the sohai sst and e invoice
reversependulum
post Jun 7 2025, 08:03 AM

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Let's vote Najib to support GST and abolish SST + einvoice

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post Jun 7 2025, 08:13 AM

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yes madani...must track makcik nasi lemak ditepi jangan untung 20k sehari....saya faham logik madani
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post Jun 7 2025, 08:31 AM

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At this rate they are fucking around, my as well release najib. Let him be the guy to bring gst back then put him under house arrest. Everyone happy
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post Jun 7 2025, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(milolauda @ Jun 7 2025, 06:04 AM)
gst is the easiest

why they dun use it ?
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it is not the system that is at fault....it is the person implementing it....

and there are ppl here who still thinks that person is great like old mamak.....

a simple read shows people's concern when introduce....but what followed was not of it's purpose but for other intentions....mismanagement....corruption, leakage, wastage spending.....etc.

not really system issue....mostly the human....and it is none other than sg buloh VVIP resident.
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post Jun 7 2025, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Jun 7 2025, 08:35 AM)
it is not the system that is at fault....it is the person implementing it....

and there are ppl here who still thinks that person is great like old mamak.....

a simple read shows people's concern when introduce....but what followed was not of it's purpose but for other intentions....mismanagement....corruption, leakage, wastage spending.....etc.

not really system issue....mostly the human....and it is none other than sg buloh VVIP resident.
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Let’s face facts. Even before implementation, PH has gone to town painting fake stories about how GST membebankan rakyat, price go up etc etc. that killed the GST plan !

Implementation stage comes later, which was poor as well. I do not disagree.

This post has been edited by fongsk: Jun 7 2025, 09:29 AM
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post Jun 7 2025, 09:34 AM

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Lancau u-turn
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post Jun 7 2025, 09:35 AM

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Sudah terasa foundation is shaken , faster u turn or might be one leg outside the office .not sure though how long he would last inside office if fully implemented.
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jun 7 2025, 09:34 AM)
Lancau u-turn
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Do small small things ok la...this one straight kacua periuk nasi everyone. Flip open your account book and calculate everything out.

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h@ksam
post Jun 7 2025, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Jun 7 2025, 08:35 AM)
it is not the system that is at fault....it is the person implementing it....

and there are ppl here who still thinks that person is great like old mamak.....

a simple read shows people's concern when introduce....but what followed was not of it's purpose but for other intentions....mismanagement....corruption, leakage, wastage spending.....etc.

not really system issue....mostly the human....and it is none other than sg buloh VVIP resident.
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as mamak said accurately : Melayu Mudah Lupa.

during GST time, kastam was sending out teams of officers going around saman every vendor who didn't comply. They even stick a non-removable type sticker on your front door, sort of like a marker showing that you've been marked.

when you submit quarterly returns with negative balance, meaning kastam should refund you immediately for your claim, you will have a hard time to get the refund, probably never if PH didn't abolish it and closed down their operations.


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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Jun 7 2025, 09:44 AM)
as mamak said accurately : Melayu Mudah Lupa.

during GST time, kastam was sending out teams of officers going around saman every vendor who didn't comply. They even stick a non-removable type sticker on your front door, sort of like a marker showing that you've been marked.

when you submit quarterly returns with negative balance, meaning kastam should refund you immediately for your claim, you will have a hard time to get the refund, probably never if PH didn't abolish it and closed down their operations.
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Not to forget najib basically almost bankrupted the country with his lavish spending and golfing. Sometimes I cringe when some of my patients say they missed najib's time. Shit was so bad our foreign reserves almost touched 90 billion. Down from the usual 110 bil
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post Jun 7 2025, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 6 2025, 09:18 AM)
Whilst we talk about companies, how about individual claims for income tax?  Do we need e-invoice to be able to considered for tax exemption, eg for purchases like health watches, EVs, E-motors etc…

Anyone has any ideas?  Remember that even normal residents is supposedly to be under the e-invoice scheme by end Dec-25.  With this scrapping for those under 500k income, how about normal citizens for income tax claims/tax deduction?
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 6 2025, 09:37 AM)
Thanks for clarifying.  Cos the earlier directive was we must key in the e-invoice numbers in our tax declaration or smoothing like this and everyone has a digital ID which they can do so.
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I think it's like this, seller issue e-inv. In the e-inv, has your IC/TIN. Then when you do income tax, it automatically already has the data.

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 7 2025, 12:38 AM)
So here's the problem. Below 500 mil, don't need to do e invoice.

So if my customer want receipt with e invoice I don't have the system to do it.
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QUOTE(coconutxyz @ Jun 7 2025, 01:01 AM)
Below 500k ezempted for now, but the issue is also need to explain to customer your annual revenue

The implementation is just topkek
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For those who don't provide e-invoice, aren't the seller/supplier need to provide the IC/TIN/BRN so that the buyer issues self billed e-invoice? Or it's not necessary?


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post Jun 7 2025, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Jun 7 2025, 02:03 PM)
I think it's like this, seller issue e-inv. In the e-inv, has your IC/TIN. Then when you do income tax, it automatically already has the data.
For those who don't provide e-invoice, aren't the seller/supplier need to provide the IC/TIN/BRN so that the buyer issues self billed e-invoice? Or it's not necessary?
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Yes, that was my understanding as well. To ‘close off the loops from issuance to closing. Anyway, let’s wait for LHDN announcement.
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post Jun 7 2025, 02:43 PM

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Here we go again ,our famous u turn culture kick in

The whole point of e invoice is the enforcement target those company sme , revenue below 1 million or 500k

Those are the typical company who always under report their income and enjoy the subsidized to the max,few examples:

Aircon contractor, wire man, cctv installer, small renovation contractor, small tyre shop, workshop, small hand phone accessories shop.

And yes they are using cheap ron 95 to travel around doing business.

And under report their income every year

Most company with more than 1 million revenue, normally are sdn bhd setup ,with proper book audit yearly.
You enforce e invoice on them,
There is nothing to see inside their book,no differences

But when you enforce e invoice inside these contractor ?
Yes suddenly you see their business are so good alr compare to previously few years

At first I ready popcorn to see how this freelancer or contractor facing e invoice
But our lovely government delay the show again

How disappointed
Delay delay then elections come, sure delay again?

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post Jun 7 2025, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Jun 7 2025, 02:03 PM)
I think it's like this, seller issue e-inv. In the e-inv, has your IC/TIN. Then when you do income tax, it automatically already has the data.
For those who don't provide e-invoice, aren't the seller/supplier need to provide the IC/TIN/BRN so that the buyer issues self billed e-invoice? Or it's not necessary?
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As per lhdn guidelines, self bill e invoice only for those foreigner seller, agent commission, not business owner sell you things(like end user trade in mobile phone to mobile phone shop), etc

If the seller itself is business owners, we can't self billed e invoice

I think the lhdn logic is, they are aiming all business owner issue e invoice at end of the implementation, now those 500k and below exempted is just temporary political compromise.

I guess.
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post Jun 7 2025, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Jun 7 2025, 02:03 PM)
I think it's like this, seller issue e-inv. In the e-inv, has your IC/TIN. Then when you do income tax, it automatically already has the data.
For those who don't provide e-invoice, aren't the seller/supplier need to provide the IC/TIN/BRN so that the buyer issues self billed e-invoice? Or it's not necessary?
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Self billed only required for few categories, cannot simply issue also

This post has been edited by coconutxyz: Jun 7 2025, 03:09 PM
tupai
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QUOTE(andrwss @ Jun 7 2025, 07:56 AM)
If not how to kencing on their voters? Already promised abolish gst, but didn't promise won't implement new tax system, especially the sohai sst and e invoice
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Well, sst ain't new and technically e-invoice is not a tax nor it's a tax system. Arguably e-invoice does make it harder to dodge taxes.
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post Jun 7 2025, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Jun 7 2025, 09:09 AM)
Let’s face facts.  Even before implementation, PH has gone to town painting fake stories about how GST membebankan rakyat, price go up etc etc.  that killed the GST plan !

Implementation stage comes later, which was poor as well. I do not disagree.
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What weed are you smoking. Before implementation, PH went to town, then that killed the GST plan? Then you Said implementation came later?

So are you saying if pH didnt went against GST, the implementation will be smooth?
reversependulum
post Jun 7 2025, 08:02 PM

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SST has loopholes so einvoice supposedly close the loopholes

GST is the best system cause no loophole and easy to use

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