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post May 22 2025, 07:00 AM, updated 7 months ago

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Ketua Penerangan PAS Ahmad Fadhli Shaari mempersoalkan keuntungan Sports Toto yang terus melonjak dan menyifatkannya kejayaan syarikat perjudian itu bukanlah sebagai petanda kemajuan ekonomi negara.

Sebaliknya, dia berkata ia adalah cerminan kepada realiti getir yang sedang dihadapi rakyat dan petanda keresahan sosial dan moral yang semakin parah.


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Mengulas kenyataan syarikat itu bahawa lonjakan keuntungan disumbang oleh prestasi cemerlang STM Lottery Sdn Bhd – termasuk “lonjakan luar biasa jackpot terkumpul Supreme Toto 6/58” – dia mempersoalkan apa yang mendorong rakyat berbelanja dalam perjudian.

“Adakah rakyat benar-benar berbelanja lebih kerana mereka semakin kaya, atau kerana mereka semakin terdesak dan hanya mampu berharap pada nasib?” soal Ahmad Fadhli yang dipetik oleh Harakah Online.

Menurutnya, pelbagai kajian menunjukkan aktiviti perjudian lazimnya meningkat sewaktu tekanan ekonomi memuncak.

Sports Toto mencatatkan lonjakan untung bersih suku ketiga sebanyak 54.3 peratus kepada RM105.6 juta, dengan jumlah hasil mencecah RM1.9 bilion – angka yang disifatkan Ahmad Fadhli sebagai seharusnya menimbulkan kebimbangan besar dalam kalangan pembuat dasar dan masyarakat sivil.

“Dalam suasana ekonomi masih dibelenggu ketidaktentuan global, tekanan inflasi dan kelembapan kuasa beli rakyat, kenyataan bahawa syarikat perjudian mampu mencatat pendapatan RM1.9 bilion hanya dalam satu suku tahun bukanlah satu berita kejayaan, sebaliknya satu isyarat kegagalan sosial dan moral yang perlu dipandang serius,” katanya.


Ahli Parlimen Pasir Mas itu turut memetik kajian Grinols dan Mustard (2006) serta Walker dan Barnett (1999) yang menunjukkan kaitan perjudian dengan peningkatan jenayah serta kesan ekonomi negatif kepada masyarakat.

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Ini, termasuk beban kewangan berganda kepada golongan berpendapatan rendah.

“Fenomena ini dikenali sebagai ‘hope spending’, di mana mereka yang kehilangan arah dan pendapatan cuba ‘menebus nasib’ melalui judi,” katanya.

Ahmad Fadhli turut menzahirkan kebimbangan terhadap nilai moral dan akhlak masyarakat yang menurutnya semakin tergadai akibat budaya perjudian yang semakin berleluasa.

“Apabila berjudi dijadikan harapan, maka kerja keras, usaha dan tawakal digantikan dengan mimpi kosong dan peluang satu dalam sejuta.

“Ketika outlet judi sah ditutup di Kedah dan Perlis, syarikat turut menyatakan kebimbangan mengenai peningkatan aktiviti judi haram.


“(Tetapi jelas) menunjukkan bahawa permintaan terhadap judi kekal tinggi, walaupun dalam bentuk yang tidak dikawal,” katanya.

Pada asa sama katanya, wujud ironi apabila dalam keadaan rakyat mengeluh mengenai kenaikan harga barang dan pengurangan subsidi, serta peningkatan permohonan bantuan zakat dan kebajikan, syarikat perjudian masih mampu mengumumkan dividen RM80.3 juta kepada pemegang saham.
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post May 22 2025, 07:07 AM

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None of you penunggang fucking business
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post May 22 2025, 07:08 AM

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if it made any sense then it's not puas

it is their trademark jokes to entertain us
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Apabila berjudi dijadikan harapan, maka kerja keras, usaha dan tawakal digantikan dengan mimpi kosong dan peluang satu dalam sejuta.

i'll take that!
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post May 22 2025, 07:10 AM

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People gamble for the thrill, I think.


If you gamble for the money, good luck! Unless the amount is too large to ignore. But then, they gamble with their own monies and willingly. So, let it be.
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post May 22 2025, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ May 22 2025, 07:09 AM)
i'll take that!
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actually he grossly overestimated the chances of winning. it's closer to one in 15.9 million chance
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Lottery as been called poor man tax, should gov be happy if can collect more tax?...owai
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Pas boleh beli toto ke?
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post May 22 2025, 07:14 AM

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So their state very maju kah

Hari hari salah orang lain
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post May 22 2025, 07:16 AM

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Because PuAS dan kerajaan tak bagi cukup support bagi nons.
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“Fenomena ini dikenali sebagai ‘hope spending’, di mana mereka yang kehilangan arah dan pendapatan cuba ‘menebus nasib’


people support PuAs = ppl desperate.

what PuAs bring to people? development? economy? No

false hope while they keep brainwashing and controlling ppl life
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Diu. None of your business lah. Please stay away
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Has PAS paid the debt owing to the ex-Harakah printers? Chances of winning toto jackpot may be higher than that.
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post May 22 2025, 07:32 AM

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With them at the helm, everyday is a gamble

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post May 22 2025, 07:35 AM

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ppl go pray also desperate, need an unknown factor to justify life
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post May 22 2025, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ May 22 2025, 07:10 AM)
actually he grossly overestimated the chances of winning. it's closer to one in 15.9 million chance
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Maths is not their strongest point.

Fitnah jer diaorg pandai
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post May 22 2025, 07:45 AM

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High profits for Toto means high taxes paid out by the company which is good income for the country.
Whether to bet or not is a personal choice. Doesn't concern the government or PAS which is not the government.
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post May 22 2025, 08:11 AM

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SG and Macao casinos also earn billions.
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post May 22 2025, 08:11 AM

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Buy Toto Magnum is to be manipulated by Madani because their agent wins the cash. Rakyat kena play not play to win.
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post May 22 2025, 08:12 AM

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Apa ketahian PAS masuk campur orang punya business?
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as usual of them , their mindset is always something to wonder.
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even if toto banned , they will find another issue to raise up, conclusion is they will raise up anything just to look holy
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post May 22 2025, 08:13 AM

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Please don't take haram money from central ya
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teach nons how to kerja keras? lol
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post May 22 2025, 08:15 AM

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All banks also record profit. So people make profit and pay tax you tak suka?
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post May 22 2025, 08:16 AM

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Tapi Kelantan dan Terengganu tak maju juga lepas berdekad memerintah dengan semua banyak berkaitan agama yang suci. Dengki betul PAS Sport Toto pulak yang lebih banyak untung dan maju. LOL.
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QUOTE(Lancer07 @ May 22 2025, 07:20 AM)
people support PuAs = ppl desperate.

what PuAs bring to people? development? economy? No

false hope while they keep brainwashing and controlling ppl life
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so for this reason of Puas not able to bring development and economy, they try to find fake bogeyman to blame, to distract their supporters from their sufferings:-

1) Blame concert
2) Blame pig farms
3) Blame vernacular
4) Blame Toto
5) Blame short skirt
6) Blame ghey (by put UMT sign)
7) Blame beer


this shaari clown what is his competency besides blame the fake bogeyman?

his own capabilities of governing, providing social development, solutions to economy, mana?

this moron everyday only know how to blame hedonistic life, he should quit his job as politician and become clergyman. The job of politician is to look after all races, social development and economical development, not become clergyman and lecture other races on the things they do.



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he's got a point. unfortunately, it wouldn't be any better with them at the helm. it would even be worse.

for those saying it's none of their business: nons complain about what they do all the time. why they cannot, especially if it's valid?
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 22 2025, 08:15 AM)
All banks also record profit. So people make profit and pay tax you tak suka?
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last time I hear of one puas supporter, refuse to do invoicing to beer company push the job to another staff.

This stupid lady say sinful. But her bonus how? the beer co provides 50% of the co's revenue. So she should cut 50% of her bonus and give to the rest of us.

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: May 22 2025, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(Lancer07 @ May 22 2025, 07:20 AM)
people support PuAs = ppl desperate.

what PuAs bring to people? development? economy? No

false hope while they keep brainwashing and controlling ppl life
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Creating neraka on Earth so that you will need them to go to heaven!
Meanwhile PuAS politicians #Janji.ada.Mesili.ipad&iPhone, dan kini LV & Mas!
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QUOTE(dckm @ May 22 2025, 08:19 AM)
he's got a point. unfortunately, it wouldn't be any better with them at the helm. it would even be worse.

for those saying it's none of their business: nons complain about what they do all the time. why they cannot, especially if it's valid?
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There is no prove they are trustworthy, clean and action. When they become Federal, they never do anything just become dormant minister in Moo moo administration. They just keep talking nonsense forever that nothing good to the people or country.
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ May 22 2025, 08:24 AM)
There is no prove they are trustworthy, clean and action. When they become Federal, they never do anything just become dormant minister in Moo moo administration. They just keep talking nonsense forever that nothing good to the people or country.
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Don't forget also, during MooMoo and Penyu time when they are in govt, the number of Special Draws were at 22 per year. Didn't see them bising also..... guess they were busy collecting the extra revenue for their warchest......
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erm, his logic will find listeners you know.

basically he is trying to attribute that ppl now are gamblers that dont care their finance. so they gamble without end.
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ May 22 2025, 08:24 AM)
There is no prove they are trustworthy, clean and action. When they become Federal, they never do anything just become dormant minister in Moo moo administration. They just keep talking nonsense forever that nothing good to the people or country.
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they are none of those things. absolutely useless at governance.

but don't let the messenger poison the message. what he brings up is real.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ May 22 2025, 08:27 AM)
Don't forget also, during MooMoo and Penyu time when they are in govt, the number of Special Draws were at 22 per year. Didn't see them bising also..... guess they were busy collecting the extra revenue for their warchest......
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Masalah dadah, rogol dan ekonomi SG4 diam je

Tapi benda orang lain je asyik kepochi
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rakyat banjir, air bawah tanah.....mana solusi?...

TOTO apa ko punya pasal?.... ko syurga, tak layak nak cakap lain punya pasal orang lain...

fokus u punya saman-fitnah dulu

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cakap je la you jealous that other people kena jackpot while you didn't

then you go tarik balik some gambling licenses in your states because you just don't want to see people happy
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Election is allso a gamble,
Gamble the country and childrens future.
Why they dont quit or dont fight for seats.
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QUOTE(WongTheThief @ May 22 2025, 08:41 AM)
cakap je la you jealous that other people kena jackpot while you didn't

then you go tarik balik some gambling licenses in your states because you just don't want to see people happy
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is it because of the jackpot hype early this year?
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Kek coming from a state with high rates of sexual crime and rampant drug abuse. So who is more desperate?
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Syukur only non desperate. Coz orang kita no buy Toto kan? Kan? So no struggle la.
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The amount of people coming out from Kelatan to work = People Desperate
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Ketua Penerangan PAS Ahmad Fadhli Shaari mempersoalkan keuntungan Sports Toto yang terus melonjak dan menyifatkannya kejayaan syarikat perjudian itu bukanlah sebagai petanda kemajuan ekonomi negara.

Here we go again, PuAS with their selling point to gain more votes...
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<dia mempersoalkan apa yang mendorong rakyat berbelanja dalam perjudian.

“Adakah rakyat benar-benar berbelanja lebih kerana mereka semakin kaya, atau kerana mereka semakin terdesak dan hanya mampu berharap pada nasib?” soal Ahmad Fadhli>

Kecian nons kena sindir PUAS but partly true (terdesak), so go work harder jangan hanya mampu berharap pada nasib

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ May 22 2025, 09:03 AM)
Kecian-nya but true.

Ketua Penerangan PAS Ahmad Fadhli Shaari > Nons terdesak dan hanya mampu berharap pada nasib.
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If you see those days before the crackdown, there are more Malays buying 4D than nons in the shops. After crackdown, lesser. Now Malays/muslims go to those illegal bookies liao to avoid arrest.
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QUOTE(dckm @ May 22 2025, 08:19 AM)
he's got a point. unfortunately, it wouldn't be any better with them at the helm. it would even be worse.

for those saying it's none of their business: nons complain about what they do all the time. why they cannot, especially if it's valid?
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When nons talk amount to just kopitiam talk. It doesn't matters at the end of the day.

When non nons talks, its matters, because they have the power to change things.
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ May 22 2025, 07:08 AM)
masalah negeri SG4 dah selesai ke belom ni
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Salah la, masalah air pon X dapat nak selesai kan.


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he just jelly he cannot buy legally
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eh eh eh... masalah kewangan nons bila jadi puas punya hal?

golongan b40 nons ada dapat benefit from puas?
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Ban from all PAS state

Then concern their profit down?
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These fuckers always point out problems but without solutions

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Then make sure PuAS dont take 4D money lah
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Let's be clear here.

% Perjudian haram (black Market) meningkat -> Government tak dapt cukai tu

% Money Laundry Activity --> Akibat drpd fund dari black market

Lebih ramai yg jerebak kat judi sebab Black market allow Prepaid scheme.
If legal is cash term. No money, no bet.

Type C masih kerja keras demi kehidupan masing-masing. No tongkat right.
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Spend money on toto better than spending money on drugs and rempit la bodo
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They dun even have ToTo shops in their own state. Why they so kepo so much other states?

Go solve your own state problems first. Distracting from main issues only.
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petanda keresahan sosial dan moral yang semakin parah.

social yes. moral no.

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QUOTE(xHj09 @ May 22 2025, 09:32 AM)
eh eh eh... masalah kewangan nons bila jadi puas punya hal?

golongan b40 nons ada dapat benefit from puas?
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Memang puas want to make as their hal
Everyday they want to legalize jizyah
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QUOTE(lahart @ May 22 2025, 09:39 AM)
Ban from all PAS state

Then concern their profit down?
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They dun even have ToTo shops in their own state. Why they so kepo so much other states?

Go solve your own state problems first. Distracting from main issues only.
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Ketua Penerangan PAS Ahmad Fadhli Shaari mempersoalkan keuntungan Sports Toto yang terus melonjak dan menyifatkannya kejayaan syarikat perjudian itu bukanlah sebagai petanda kemajuan ekonomi negara.

Sebaliknya, dia berkata ia adalah cerminan kepada realiti getir yang sedang dihadapi rakyat dan petanda keresahan sosial dan moral yang semakin parah.
Ahmad Fadhli Shaari
Mengulas kenyataan syarikat itu bahawa lonjakan keuntungan disumbang oleh prestasi cemerlang STM Lottery Sdn Bhd – termasuk “lonjakan luar biasa jackpot terkumpul Supreme Toto 6/58” – dia mempersoalkan apa yang mendorong rakyat berbelanja dalam perjudian.

“Adakah rakyat benar-benar berbelanja lebih kerana mereka semakin kaya, atau kerana mereka semakin terdesak dan hanya mampu berharap pada nasib?” soal Ahmad Fadhli yang dipetik oleh Harakah Online.

Menurutnya, pelbagai kajian menunjukkan aktiviti perjudian lazimnya meningkat sewaktu tekanan ekonomi memuncak.

Sports Toto mencatatkan lonjakan untung bersih suku ketiga sebanyak 54.3 peratus kepada RM105.6 juta, dengan jumlah hasil mencecah RM1.9 bilion – angka yang disifatkan Ahmad Fadhli sebagai seharusnya menimbulkan kebimbangan besar dalam kalangan pembuat dasar dan masyarakat sivil.

“Dalam suasana ekonomi masih dibelenggu ketidaktentuan global, tekanan inflasi dan kelembapan kuasa beli rakyat, kenyataan bahawa syarikat perjudian mampu mencatat pendapatan RM1.9 bilion hanya dalam satu suku tahun bukanlah satu berita kejayaan, sebaliknya satu isyarat kegagalan sosial dan moral yang perlu dipandang serius,” katanya.
Ahli Parlimen Pasir Mas itu turut memetik kajian Grinols dan Mustard (2006) serta Walker dan Barnett (1999) yang menunjukkan kaitan perjudian dengan peningkatan jenayah serta kesan ekonomi negatif kepada masyarakat.

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Ini, termasuk beban kewangan berganda kepada golongan berpendapatan rendah.

“Fenomena ini dikenali sebagai ‘hope spending’, di mana mereka yang kehilangan arah dan pendapatan cuba ‘menebus nasib’ melalui judi,” katanya.

Ahmad Fadhli turut menzahirkan kebimbangan terhadap nilai moral dan akhlak masyarakat yang menurutnya semakin tergadai akibat budaya perjudian yang semakin berleluasa.

“Apabila berjudi dijadikan harapan, maka kerja keras, usaha dan tawakal digantikan dengan mimpi kosong dan peluang satu dalam sejuta.

“Ketika outlet judi sah ditutup di Kedah dan Perlis, syarikat turut menyatakan kebimbangan mengenai peningkatan aktiviti judi haram.
“(Tetapi jelas) menunjukkan bahawa permintaan terhadap judi kekal tinggi, walaupun dalam bentuk yang tidak dikawal,” katanya.

Pada asa sama katanya, wujud ironi apabila dalam keadaan rakyat mengeluh mengenai kenaikan harga barang dan pengurangan subsidi, serta peningkatan permohonan bantuan zakat dan kebajikan, syarikat perjudian masih mampu mengumumkan dividen RM80.3 juta kepada pemegang saham.
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more like Puas getting desperate.

Their own SG4 states mundur macam afganistan.

now they want to kepo about sports toto and find whatever nons do as the bogeyman blame.

what's next? so far kepo below:
1) wear short pants kena fine in their SG4
2) complain vernacular
3) complain pig farm
4) complain beer
5) complain concerts
6) waste money on anti ghey sign outside UMT padahal there no ghey issue
7) talk kok everyday worry about dap dominance
8) can't even offer clean water want to talk kok on wagyu beef industry
7) kepo complain penang govt change new car but their own mundur state buy mercidis

All to hide their failures that they have no clue how to offer jobs, development, improve amenities, solid policies, social solutions, economy solutions.

everyday just fitnah, blame nons punya everyday activities.
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how come he didnt comment why non non is using the sin tax ?
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ May 22 2025, 10:41 AM)
more like Puas getting desperate.

Their own SG4 states mundur macam afganistan.

now they want to kepo about sports toto and find whatever nons do as the bogeyman blame.

what's next? so far kepo below:
1) wear short pants kena fine in their SG4
2) complain vernacular
3) complain pig farm
4) complain beer
5) complain concerts
6) waste money on anti ghey sign outside UMT padahal there no ghey issue
7) talk kok everyday worry about dap dominance
8) can't even offer clean water want to talk kok on wagyu beef industry
7) kepo complain penang govt change new car but their own mundur state buy mercidis

All to hide their failures that they have no clue how to offer jobs, development, improve amenities, solid policies, social solutions, economy solutions.

everyday just fitnah, blame nons punya everyday activities.
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But the alternative is what? Unprecedented kleptocracy, tong simen, money politics at obscene levels, turning blind eye to corruption and power abuse to solicit political backing, bailouts of cronies, abuse of retirement funds, mega projects that benefit elite groups, dnaa of high profile cases, planes go missing whilst air force is jolly, not to mention wayang after wayang being played out as if rakyat so dumb? So how? Which actually is worse?

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During PN's time, they increased the special draws from 8 draws to 20+ draws in a year

Bloody hypocrites .. Then use the money for their purposes
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this one is for non only wor, why wan campur?
Always said not affect non, batu feringghi beach event also wan campur...beach man, beach.....go beach cannot wear swimsuit meh.....apa logic ni?
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During PN's time, they increased the special draws from 8 draws to 20+ draws in a year

Bloody hypocrites .. Then use the money for their purposes
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Talibunnn I dont like to gamble but ironically it's a high risk to reward ratio of returns 1:1M . If everyday sit down and pray God not gonna magically make 1M appear right in front of me so from investment perspective toto less desperate than prayer.
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pas jelly some of that money couldnt go to their pocket for more mercedes
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The profits from toto is duit haram not for pastards to spend.
Should be spent on nons and nons only.
They want to makan everything halal then this is money not permitted to them

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sportstoto result good = ekonomi merosot

apalah logic puak PAS ni, during that time ada jackpot RM100mil+, mesti lah sales hike up
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Already pay compensation and renew license for Damacai, Magnum and Toto or still decide to continue defy court order?

The longer you drag the higher the compensation need to pay.
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 22 2025, 11:16 AM)
But the alternative is what? Unprecedented kleptocracy, tong simen, money politics at obscene levels, turning blind eye to corruption and power abuse to solicit political backing, bailouts of cronies, abuse of retirement funds, mega projects that benefit elite groups, dnaa of high profile cases, planes go missing whilst air force is jolly, not to mention wayang after wayang being played out as if rakyat so dumb? So how? Which actually is worse?
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I enjoy my char siew - need pig farms, I want to be able to drink my beer, send my kids to vernacular, attend concerts, wear short pants, go buy sports toto to try my luck.

Yes I would love it, if we could follow UK or Australia style social development and high salary and fair taxation (except for keir starmer's inheritance tax). But world ain't perfect, gotta live in world of enforced disappearance.

But what makes you think voting for Puas, all those things you just said, bailout of croonies, abuse of retirement funds, total subsidy throw to B40, neglect M40, wayang, dnaa cases, benefit elite groups is not going to happen under Puas?

And to add insult with injury, Puas will mismanage economy, unnecessarily ban non hobbies and practices, side the relegus people, plunge the country into poverty and ancient donkey camel industry, alienating the nons and tax paying community.

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: May 22 2025, 06:50 PM
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I enjoy my char siew - need pig farms, I want to be able to drink my beer, send my kids to vernacular, attend concerts, wear short pants, go buy sports toto to try my luck.

Yes I would love it, if we could follow UK or Australia style social development and high salary and fair taxation (except for keir starmer's inheritance tax). But world ain't perfect, gotta live in world of enforced disappearance.

But what makes you think voting for Puas, all those things you just said, bailout of croonies, abuse of retirement funds, total subsidy throw to B40, neglect M40, wayang, dnaa cases, benefit elite groups is not going to happen under Puas?

And to add insult with injury, Puas will mismanage economy, unnecessarily ban non hobbies and practices, side the relegus people, plunge the country into poverty and ancient donkey camel industry, alienating the nons and tax paying community.
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Look you can vote whoever you wish. I am just pointing out the fact that if one thinksPAS is bad then the alternative as we see it is even worse. So it's pointless to say one party is bad when the others all have equal or worse tendencies.

And I am not recommending one votes for PAS but we must consider a coalition that may include them like it or not. As part of coalition they can't just do things purely as an Islamic party but rather they will have to take into account the interest of coalition partners. And the reality we see today is that parties like PAS can never form a federal govt without some degree of support from nons electorate. Fact. So why should nons feel threatened by them. I think it should be the other way around.
And whether a coalition with PAS in it will end committing all those excesses and abuses typical of bn & Co is left to be seen but purely speculative at this point.
Don't forget that in the past dap and Pas were in same coalition. Lol.

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PuAS can buy toto?


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Every month I spend 100 linggit on toto, but never win before. Hoping one day I can win and finally upgrade my Preve to a S70.
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Every month I spend 100 linggit on toto, but never win before. Hoping one day I can win and finally upgrade my Preve to a S70.
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If you save that 100 into bitcoin, your chances of getting the s70 is higher than winning toto
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If you save that 100 into bitcoin, your chances of getting the s70 is higher than winning toto
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To make 100 linggit into 70,000 linggit, buttcoin must go up 700x.

Can tell me because ayam sohai, when will buttcoin be with 77,000,000 sebiji?


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To make 100 linggit into 70,000 linggit, buttcoin must go up 700x.

Can tell me because ayam sohai, when will buttcoin be with 77,000,000 sebiji?
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100 ringgit monthly dude...
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Tax from lottery and genting go to who first ?
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100 ringgit monthly dude...
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Still a bit far fetched brader. Genting has a higher chance than BTC
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what u mean?


At least u have that 100/month saved in the end. U gamble it's all lost
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Look you can vote whoever you wish. I am just pointing out the fact that if one thinksPAS is bad then the alternative as we see it is even worse. So it's pointless to say one party is bad when the others all have equal or worse tendencies.

And I am not recommending one votes for PAS but we must consider a coalition that may include them like it or not. As part of coalition they can't just do things purely as an Islamic party but rather they will have to take into account the interest of coalition partners. And the reality we see today is that parties like PAS can never form a federal govt without some degree of support from nons electorate. Fact. So why should nons feel threatened by them. I think it should be the other way around.
And whether a coalition with PAS in it will end committing all those excesses and abuses typical of bn & Co is left to be seen but purely speculative at this point.
Don't forget that in the past dap and Pas were in same coalition. Lol.
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You sound like one of those forzee spawns.

Did you just came out from a cave recently? DAP was in coalition with puas due to tok guru's willingness to compromise and accept different ideologies. Dap worked well with the young turks led by Mat Sabu.

After Hardi took over, his cohorts took most of the leadership reigns, defeated Mat Sabu;s gang, they left and formed another splinter party Amanah.

So whatever left in Puas, would not be able to work with dap because they are now aiming for RnR methodologies.

Of course, Puas is a very bad alternative. Just look at how they treat their coalition partners like bersatoo and gerakan. Typical bullying.

PAS more qualified to lead PN, says spiritual leader
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/pas...30c09c34a&ei=14

They say these things without even consulting with the PeeN leadership.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...an-not-just-lau

Analysts see PAS boycotting Gerakan, not just Lau

I am not defending BN, but under Bijian, yes there were some rhetorics but they stil ltalk about social development and policy.

Puas talk about what?

Everyday blame pig farms, beer, concerts, sports toto, claim Penang deficit but Kelantan even worse, claim Penang buy new car but Kelantan buy mercidis, everyday dap dap dap, vernacular, etc etc. Zero on policy, zero on solution, zero on bringing racial peace and work together. Everyday RnR to max.

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When PAS knows TOTO more than us. Something not right here
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ May 24 2025, 07:59 AM)
You sound like one of those forzee spawns.

Did you just came out from a cave recently? DAP was in coalition with puas due to tok guru's willingness to compromise and accept different ideologies. Dap worked well with the young turks led by Mat Sabu.

After Hardi took over, his cohorts took most of the leadership reigns, defeated Mat Sabu;s gang, they left and formed another splinter party Amanah.

So whatever left in Puas, would not be able to work with dap because they are now aiming for RnR methodologies.

Of course, Puas is a very bad alternative. Just look at how they treat their coalition partners like bersatoo and gerakan. Typical bullying.

PAS more qualified to lead PN, says spiritual leader
https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/pas...30c09c34a&ei=14

They say these things without even consulting with the PeeN leadership.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...an-not-just-lau

Analysts see PAS boycotting Gerakan, not just Lau

I am not defending BN, but under Bijian, yes there were some rhetorics but they stil ltalk about social development and policy.

Puas talk about what?

Everyday blame pig farms, beer, concerts, sports toto, claim Penang deficit but Kelantan even worse, claim Penang buy new car but Kelantan buy mercidis, everyday dap dap dap, vernacular, etc etc. Zero on policy, zero on solution, zero on bringing racial peace and work together. Everyday RnR to max.
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You are missing one very crucial pov: in the current political climate nons actually are in a commanding position and essentially kingmakers simply because the malay electorate is divided.
Nons must assert their kingmaker role and not allow their thinking to be dominated by warlords or conversely to be intimidated by Pro religious groups. Nons call the shots and PN or bn need to court the support of nons in order to govern. In short it must be made clear to both sides bn or PN that unless they walk the talk and toe the line its game over. If nons are not able to take that clear stand and command of the opportunity then they have naively and foolishly sacrificed their kingmaker position all for the sake of sacred cows. The Malays mind is dominated by warlords  or political persona as such their votes are locked in and cannot move away from their traditional parties be it  UMNO or PAS or their splinter.
As kingmaker the votes of nons should never become a fixed deposit for any particular  party. Instead the message to all political parties should reflect the nature of a kingmaker which is this : do the right thing and safeguard our interest and we will vote you into power. But if you refuse to walk the line and become rogue by undermining our interest then you will be voted out. This message should be consistent to all political parties whether it is DAP or even PAS. These all need to recognise who the kingmaker is and kow tow accordingly.
But nons are in the danger of succumbing to warlord mentality when they continue to support a party blindly that no longer acts in their interest but instead choose to fulfill the interest of certain political persona or warlord so to speak. Its time to get back on track.
Truth is that  warlords feel uneasy and threatened by those who are in kingmaker position because the kingmakers deny warlords of the absolute power they crave. And we know power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Let's analyse deeper. What is the root cause of this warlord mentality? It is idolatry. Its taking a certain political figure and giving your allegiance to that person or party irrespective of the moral consequence and implication of their actions in which case such have become an idol to those that continue to support them.  Point in case Jibby. But anyone or anything can degenerate into an idol including DAP.

So instead of condemning whichever party for their weaknesses which is evident in all sides the focus should be on engaging and addressing those weaknesses. Why feel intimidated when one is in a commanding position?
As for PAS irrespective of who the leaders are the electorate they represent is the more important consideration for its their votes that count. Leaders in PAS come and go some good and some not so good. I mean look at Samsuri. In comparison look at where Mat Sabu and Amanah is today. Merely surviving on the electoral crumbs of DAP. And it was poor foresight for DAP to sponsor Amanah as a a splinter. Look where it has lead to?
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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 24 2025, 11:53 AM)
You are missing one very crucial pov: in the current political climate nons actually are in a commanding position and essentially kingmakers simply because the malay electorate is divided.
Nons must assert their kingmaker role and not allow their thinking to be dominated by warlords or conversely to be intimidated by Pro religious groups. Nons call the shots and PN or bn need to court the support of nons in order to govern. In short it must be made clear to both sides bn or PN that unless they walk the talk and toe the line its game over. If nons are not able to take that clear stand and command of the opportunity then they have naively and foolishly sacrificed their kingmaker position all for the sake of sacred cows. The Malays mind is dominated by warlords  or political persona as such their votes are locked in and cannot move away from their traditional parties be it  UMNO or PAS or their splinter.
As kingmaker the votes of nons should never become a fixed deposit for any particular  party. Instead the message to all political parties should reflect the nature of a kingmaker which is this : do the right thing and safeguard our interest and we will vote you into power. But if you refuse to walk the line and become rogue by undermining our interest then you will be voted out. This message should be consistent to all political parties whether it is DAP or even PAS. These all need to recognise who the kingmaker is and kow tow accordingly.
But nons are in the danger of succumbing to warlord mentality when they continue to support a party blindly that no longer acts in their interest but instead choose to fulfill the interest of certain political persona or warlord so to speak. Its time to get back on track.
Truth is that  warlords feel uneasy and threatened by those who are in kingmaker position because the kingmakers deny warlords of the absolute power they crave. And we know power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Let's analyse deeper. What is the root cause of this warlord mentality? It is idolatry. Its taking a certain political figure and giving your allegiance to that person or party irrespective of the moral consequence and implication of their actions in which case such have become an idol to those that continue to support them.  Point in case Jibby. But anyone or anything can degenerate into an idol including DAP.

So instead of condemning whichever party for their weaknesses which is evident in all sides the focus should be on engaging and addressing those weaknesses. Why feel intimidated when one is in a commanding position?
As for PAS irrespective of who the leaders are the electorate they represent is the more important consideration for its their votes that count. Leaders in PAS come and go some good and some not so good. I mean look at Samsuri. In comparison look at where Mat Sabu and Amanah is today. Merely surviving on the electoral crumbs of DAP. And it was poor foresight for DAP to sponsor Amanah as a a splinter. Look where it has lead to?
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You can write 10 pages, still one idiot puas leader comments will take what you say to be total BS and reverse it to another -10. You are just a Gelakan tool pool dog cybertrooper for Puas.

Sammy is utter garbage, a person that have no balls totally controlled like a puppet on strings like his Hadi puppet master.

Puas = intolerance of racial peace and force nons to integrate into their own ideologies.

1) Focus on irrelevant issues - every day talk about relegen & moral issues, this moron. What about social development, economy and peace n love among the races?

PAS information chief Ahmad Fadhli Shaari is sounding the alarm over Sports Toto’s skyrocketing profits, raising not only social and moral concerns but also questioning whether this surge signals growing desperation amid a struggling economy.

2) Again this MP should become lebai, not politician, everyday stepping into nons access to enjoyment. Economy in SG4 like shit, want to talk kok on irrelevant issues, just focus on relegen only

Call off concerts or we’ll take to the streets: PAS Youth chief
Such events transgress norms, values of Muslims here, says Ahmad Fadhli Shaari

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/743873#google_vignette

3) Innocent members? the leadership up has been involved n led this kind of exploitation activities - this is the kind of rubbish leadership in handling matters.

While supporting thorough investigations into allegations of erroneous beliefs and child exploitation linked to GISBH, he urged authorities to ensure that innocent members and the group’s lawful activities are not unfairly affected.

He highlighted the importance of preserving the group’s positive contributions, including its business network, and cautioned against impulsive actions influenced by prejudice or political agendas. – Sept 22, 2024

https://focusmalaysia.my/pas-urges-fairness...ns-of-learning/

4) KPI is attending weddings? so pitiful, gaji betul sungguh

PAS MP Slammed For Putting ‘Wedding & Funeral’ Attendance Into 100-Days Performance Report

https://weirdkaya.com/pas-mp-wedding-funera...ys-performance/

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Air bersih utk minum dah settle ?

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You can write 10 pages, still one idiot puas leader comments will take what you say to be total BS and reverse it to another -10. You are just a Gelakan tool pool dog cybertrooper for Puas.

Sammy is utter garbage, a person that have no balls totally controlled like a puppet on strings like his Hadi puppet master.

Puas = intolerance of racial peace and force nons to integrate into their own ideologies.

1) Focus on irrelevant issues - every day talk about relegen & moral issues, this moron. What about social development, economy and peace n love among the races?

PAS information chief Ahmad Fadhli Shaari is sounding the alarm over Sports Toto’s skyrocketing profits, raising not only social and moral concerns but also questioning whether this surge signals growing desperation amid a struggling economy.

2) Again this MP should become lebai, not politician, everyday stepping into nons access to enjoyment. Economy in SG4 like shit, want to talk kok on irrelevant issues, just focus on relegen only

Call off concerts or we’ll take to the streets: PAS Youth chief
Such events transgress norms, values of Muslims here, says Ahmad Fadhli Shaari

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/743873#google_vignette

3) Innocent members? the leadership up has been involved n led this kind of exploitation activities - this is the kind of rubbish leadership in handling matters.

While supporting thorough investigations into allegations of erroneous beliefs and child exploitation linked to GISBH, he urged authorities to ensure that innocent members and the group’s lawful activities are not unfairly affected.

He highlighted the importance of preserving the group’s positive contributions, including its business network, and cautioned against impulsive actions influenced by prejudice or political agendas. – Sept 22, 2024

https://focusmalaysia.my/pas-urges-fairness...ns-of-learning/

4) KPI is attending weddings? so pitiful, gaji betul sungguh

PAS MP Slammed For Putting ‘Wedding & Funeral’ Attendance Into 100-Days Performance Report

https://weirdkaya.com/pas-mp-wedding-funera...ys-performance/
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You are just regurgitating what we already know. Save your breath. I did not say PAS is perfect. But at least not as bad as these:
Worst kleptocracy and now in the process of covering it up, the guilty ppl as getting away. Not to mention all the other corruption and power abuse cases.
How about all those who have disappeared or had their lives ended, some in a concrete filled drum? You OK with that?
You support obscene levels of money politics, buying over of mp/coalition?
Political cronyism? Abuse of Macc OK? Erosion of judicial independence?
There are too many incidents that glaringly point to the denial of justice and truth/honesty and instead we are dished out deceit. The key issue is justice denied. Without justice no country can progress.
How about Altantuya? I only came to know about it because Pmx brought it up those days. Yes talking about it in ceram ah. Yet look at him today. Not a squeak. The silence is deafening after being so vocal.
If pas has committed sins then present govt is guilty of greater sin.

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You are just regurgitating what we already know. Save your breath. I did not say PAS is perfect. But at least not as bad as these:
Worst kleptocracy and now in the process of covering it up, the guilty ppl as getting away. Not to mention all the other corruption and power abuse cases.
How about all those who have disappeared or had their lives ended, some in a concrete filled drum? You OK with that?
You support obscene levels of money politics, buying over of mp/coalition?
Political cronyism? Abuse of Macc OK?  Erosion of judicial independence?
There are too many incidents that glaringly point to the denial of justice and truth/honesty and instead we are dished out deceit. The key issue is justice denied. Without justice no country can progress.
How about Altantuya? I only came to know about it because Pmx brought it up those days. Yes talking about it in ceram ah. Yet look at him today. Not a squeak. The silence is deafening after  being so vocal.
If pas has committed sins then present govt is guilty of greater sin.
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there is a big difference between not perfect and garbage party that preys on people's fears, everyday RnR.

Kleptocracy? What makes you think Puas is not capable of doing it? They paired up with the likes of the same people who prop up Bijian, they chose to exit as they Bijian as a liability and joined forces with Puas everyday postponing the parliament. Not one single frame of law was debated nor implemented, plunging the nation into poverty and indecision. ALl the govt decisions on MCO could not be debated thanks to your Takoyaki law minister and Moo Moo the cirit.

300m spend on 30 wells, and no water, puas can't do shit.

https://www.malaysia-today.net/2024/05/24/c...e-analysts-say/

Shukri’s son, Syafeeq, was charged in the Kangar sessions court yesterday with falsifying claims of more than RM19,000 for the supply of drinks for the Raja of Perlis, Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin Putra Jamalullail, in February. He pleaded not guilty.

Azmi, a fellow with the National Council of Professors, suggested that some in PAS should urge Shukri to step down to avoid further embarrassing the party.

Shukri is also the Perlis PAS commissioner and the state’s PN chairman.



Don't be too sure, you rat cybertrooper wankongyew, we'll see how squeeky clean Puas is.

Not one of my facts up there you were able to debate, all you can just say Puas is not perfect. What the heck? You are defending a useless garbage party that defended GISB, accused nons of corruption, fitnah to the sky, incompetent and everyday playing RnR.

RnR is just equally as bad as kleptocracy.

Is this the best you can do? I schooled you and you can't even come up one point of debate against my 4 points. Worthless wankongyew.
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ May 27 2025, 06:03 PM)
there is a big difference between not perfect and garbage party that preys on people's fears, everyday RnR.

Kleptocracy? What makes you think Puas is not capable of doing it? They paired up with the likes of the same people who prop up Bijian, they chose to exit as they Bijian as a liability and joined forces with Puas everyday postponing the parliament. Not one single frame of law was debated nor implemented, plunging the nation into poverty and indecision. ALl the govt decisions on MCO could not be debated thanks to your Takoyaki law minister and Moo Moo the cirit.

300m spend on 30 wells, and no water, puas can't do shit.

https://www.malaysia-today.net/2024/05/24/c...e-analysts-say/

Shukri’s son, Syafeeq, was charged in the Kangar sessions court yesterday with falsifying claims of more than RM19,000 for the supply of drinks for the Raja of Perlis, Tuanku Syed Sirajuddin Putra Jamalullail, in February. He pleaded not guilty.

Azmi, a fellow with the National Council of Professors, suggested that some in PAS should urge Shukri to step down to avoid further embarrassing the party.

Shukri is also the Perlis PAS commissioner and the state’s PN chairman.



Don't be too sure, you rat cybertrooper wankongyew, we'll see how squeeky clean Puas is.

Not one of my facts up there you were able to debate, all you can just say Puas is not perfect. What the heck? You are defending a useless garbage party that defended GISB, accused nons of corruption, fitnah to the sky, incompetent and everyday playing RnR.

RnR is just equally as bad as kleptocracy.

Is this the best you can do? I schooled you and you can't even come up one point of debate against my 4 points. Worthless wankongyew.
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19000 lol. Is that all. Ku nan say 5mil is loose change. So this is next to nothing. No party is perfect. But compare to umno no need not talk. You fail to understand systemic, widespread and embedded corruption.
If PAS prop up Najib how come he got booted into prison when they were part of govt? Not consistent.

Pls give example of any kind of actual loss you have suffered thru your allegations of racism. Eg denied job, entry into uni etc.
Do you actually know what real racism is about and who is responsible for those policies?

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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 27 2025, 06:24 PM)
19000 lol. Is that all. Ku nan say 5mil is loose change. So this is next to nothing. No party is perfect. But compare to umno no need to talk. You fail to understand systemic, widespread and embedded corruption.
If PAS prop up Najib  how come he got booted into prison when they were part of govt? Not consistent.

Pls give example of any kind of actual loss you have suffered thru your allegations of racism. Eg denied job, entry into uni etc.
Do you actually know what real racism is about and who is responsible for those policies?
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So you admit Puas is racism.

Just look at how you talk lah. Talking cock, complete sampah.

Yes it did hurt, racism did hurt. Just see SG4, so mundur. Even without corruption, they are at par with South Africa with corruption. Why? THey everyday focus oN RnR issues, they completely forgot how to run their own state. Yes, got hurt, they hurt their own supporters. Everyday drink brown water, everyday hippocrite and drive mercidis.

Bijian is already in Jail, what's your non existence issue? DAP and PKR were the ones that pair up with bersatoo and sent him to jail. Puas didn't do shit. In fact Puas did at once do muafakat with Bijian. So Puas did recognized him, so double standards, want to justify that they are righteous but they were once in cahoots with Bijian.


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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ May 27 2025, 06:31 PM)
So you admit Puas is racism.

Just look at how you talk lah. Talking cock, complete sampah.

Yes it did hurt, racism did hurt. Just see SG4, so mundur. Even without corruption, they are at par with South Africa with corruption. Why? THey everyday focus oN RnR issues, they completely forgot how to run their own state. Yes, got hurt, they hurt their own supporters. Everyday drink brown water, everyday hippocrite and drive mercidis.

Bijian is already in Jail, what's your non existence issue? DAP and PKR were the ones that pair up with bersatoo and sent him to jail. Puas didn't do shit. In fact Puas did at once do muafakat with Bijian. So Puas did recognized him, so double standards, want to justify that they are righteous but they were once in cahoots with Bijian.
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PAS muafakat with Jibby when they r not in govt so it's just political manoeuvring. But it's different when you become govt cause you have responsibility to uphold justice. And what counts is what actually took place. The fact that Jibby got booted into jail when they were in govt proves PAS can be guided and persuaded to do the right thing when the occasion demands. But the same cannot be said of ph. The real test is when one is given the reins of power then you will know what they are really about. Before that it's just pure rhetoric.

And now it is PKR, dap together with umno going to set Jibby and Co free. Just look at Rosmah.lol. Ridiculous. Downright shameful. So we are concerned with what actually takes place and not outward appearances or say one thing and do another.
You still haven't answered my question. In what way have you suffered because of racism/discrimination from PAS? Tell lahh

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PAS  muafakat with Jibby when they r not in govt so it's just political manoeuvring. But it's different when you become govt cause you have responsibility to uphold justice. And what counts is what actually took place. The fact that Jibby got booted into jail when they were in govt proves PAS can be guided and persuaded to do the right thing when the occasion demands. But the same cannot be said of ph. The real test is when one is given the reins of power then you will know what they are really about. Before that it's just pure rhetoric.

And now it is PKR, dap together with umno going to set Jibby and Co free. Just look at Rosmah.lol. Ridiculous. Downright shameful.  So we are concerned with what actually takes place and not outward appearances or say one thing and do another.
You still haven't answered my question. In what way have you suffered because of racism/discrimination from PAS? Tell lahh
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Talking full of cock pusing. Pusing pusing, until shit also can become delicious fried chicken to you. I got sources, you got what? Air liur anjing talk cock sing song is the only thing you have.

Puas can guide by its desperation to be in government, that's all. Nothing to do with honesty. For them, if they can get bijian back and if that can get them the seat, they would do it.

Answer your head lah. If somebody call you a monkey due to your racing status, then eveyrbody else believe, you telling me that doesn't cause damage to you? In terms of lost of prestige, perception and people voting patterns change to shut your people from getting the amenities you need due to the paranoia that people think you are a monkey, and they afraid that you might monkey your way to affect them?


Commentary: PAS revealed its cards by supporting Najib. Now it’s paying the price
PAS showed its cards too soon - all in its overzealous pursuit of securing the grand prize of returning to government, says political analyst James Chai.


https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/...olitics-4847496

hey you got brain or not? Use some brain power. FOr eg, that person who fitnah some leaders and say they are related to Chin Peng. That's not racing meh? And this would affect their prestige and they lose election due to this. That affects them.

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Talking full of cock pusing. Pusing pusing, until shit also can become delicious fried chicken to you. I got sources, you got what? Air liur anjing talk cock sing song is the only thing you have.

Puas can guide by its desperation to be in government, that's all. Nothing to do with honesty. For them, if they can get bijian back and if that can get them the seat, they would do it.

Answer your head lah. If somebody call you a monkey due to your racing status, then eveyrbody else believe, you telling me that doesn't cause damage to you? In terms of lost of prestige, perception and people voting patterns change to shut your people from getting the amenities you need due to the paranoia that people think you are a monkey, and they afraid that you might monkey your way to affect them?
Commentary: PAS revealed its cards by supporting Najib. Now it’s paying the price
PAS showed its cards too soon - all in its overzealous pursuit of securing the grand prize of returning to government, says political analyst James Chai.


https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/...olitics-4847496
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hey you got brain or not? Use some brain power. FOr eg, that person who fitnah some leaders and say they are related to Chin Peng. That's not racing meh? And this would affect their prestige and they lose election due to this. That affects them.

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If anything it’s an indication how difficult it is to win when the odds are tilted heavily for the betting companies. No independent watchdog to ensure that doesn’t happen.
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ May 28 2025, 12:33 PM)
Talking full of cock pusing. Pusing pusing, until shit also can become delicious fried chicken to you. I got sources, you got what? Air liur anjing talk cock sing song is the only thing you have.

Puas can guide by its desperation to be in government, that's all. Nothing to do with honesty. For them, if they can get bijian back and if that can get them the seat, they would do it.

Answer your head lah. If somebody call you a monkey due to your racing status, then eveyrbody else believe, you telling me that doesn't cause damage to you? In terms of lost of prestige, perception and people voting patterns change to shut your people from getting the amenities you need due to the paranoia that people think you are a monkey, and they afraid that you might monkey your way to affect them?
Commentary: PAS revealed its cards by supporting Najib. Now it’s paying the price
PAS showed its cards too soon - all in its overzealous pursuit of securing the grand prize of returning to government, says political analyst James Chai.


https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/...olitics-4847496

hey you got brain or not? Use some brain power. FOr eg, that person who fitnah some leaders and say they are related to Chin Peng. That's not racing meh? And this would affect their prestige and they lose election due to this. That affects them.
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What unbelievable stupidity. Who is desperate to be in govt and hold PM ship? Not ph? Lol. Then why need to form govt with their nemesis umno. Ph has been exposing all their wrong doings ever since. Imagine all their campaigning lines is mainly against the corrupt practices of Umno but finally they form govt together. What a joke. And who are the ones have to publicly apologise to GPS? Can't be more desperate than that. Lol. Look who is talking cock.
OK lah I can't be bothered to continue this conversation seeing you are Najib licker. Bye.

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QUOTE(SharpSword @ May 28 2025, 03:54 PM)
What  unbelievable stupidity. Who is desperate to be in govt and hold PM ship? Not ph? Lol. Then why need to form govt with their nemesis umno. Ph has been exposing all their wrong doings ever since. Imagine all their campaigning lines is mainly against the corrupt practices of Umno but finally they form govt together. What a joke. And who are the ones have to publicly apologise to GPS? Can't be more desperate than that. Lol. Look who is talking cock.
OK lah I can't be bothered to continue this conversation seeing  you are Najib licker. Bye.
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sharp talk cock puas licker,

You spew of low intelligence, even puas willing to form govt with nemesis doomno and their splinter group bersatoo.

Puas the party that poses itself as no.1 holy party, but in the end alliance with bijian for muafakat and even with remnants of Doomno - sabrik (now being question by MACC) and Moo MOO (that now fighting korupsi case).

You talk as if you are holy lebai, but behind you lick bijian from head to toe, as your favourite party Puas willing to bend over and let doomno ride their ass.


 

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