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post May 22 2025, 02:24 AM, updated 7 months ago

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https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cpqe7rp388vt

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https://www.youtube.com/live/G28XbYmP8NY
extraordinary. starts playing documentary embarassing ramaphosa then starts showing printouts

ambush starts at 15:37

19:30 starts pointing out "burial sites of white farmers, terrible sight"

21:20 scolds NBC reporter who asks about Qatar donate jet to him

22:40 starts showing printouts of web articles about death of white south africans, argues with reporters who object. damn comedy

28:00 almosts chucks the bunch of printouts to ramaposha

32:30 calls out Elon
meanwhile ELon is in the background and laughing silently

37:30 trump asks "why wont you arrest that man who says 'kill the white people' "

40:30 calls out his golf pals from SA ernie els and retief goosen

49:00 interesting account by retief about living behind electric fences in his farm and having his equipment constantly stolen

54:00 black woman SA minister talks about horrific crimes against elderly black women in black majority areas

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post May 22 2025, 02:32 AM

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Chatted with someone on 9gag who claimed to be South African. He said things were bad and many whites left already.

The cowards are scared
shoot shoot

shoot shoot
the cowards are scared
shoot shoot

shoot shoot
shoot the Boer
shoot shoot
shoot the Boer
shoot shoot
shoot the Boer
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Whoa can see Trump's bald spot liao.


Of coz Big Black Cock news will say a president chanting "Kill the Boer" is not government policy.

Edit: Ok my bad, Malema not President of SA, but why this guy not officially recognized as a terrorist yet? This guy is the president of the fourth-largest party in the South African National Assembly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXn3R-0UBG4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjBu6VZWE7k


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 02:32 AM)
Chatted with someone on 9gag who claimed to be South African. He said things were bad and many whites left already.

The cowards are scared
shoot shoot

Of coz Big Black Cock news will say a president chanting "Kill the Boer" is not government policy.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cpqe7rp388vt?...ab504a0972#post
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 22 2025, 02:40 AM)
Whoops. Malema is only the president of the Economic Freedom Fighters party.

But after almost 20 years of the courts ruling that "Kill the Boer" is hate speech, suddenly they say not hate speech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubul'_ib..._Court_decision

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49:00 interesting account by retief about living behind electric fences in his farm and having his equipment constantly stolen
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Bring in the mega agriculture corporations owai.

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Jootube manyak laju.

https://www.youtube.com/live/JASynnhfjRE

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this malema is like SA version of yamal yunos the red shirt boss

sooner or later, he will meet his karma....u guys just wait

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCV91SxFG8c


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post May 22 2025, 01:25 PM

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actually why he treat his guests like this? maciem biaDAP siot..

edit - korekted for /k

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So nobody show trump video about idf soldier and gaza genocide ke ?

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 22 2025, 01:25 PM)
actually why he treat his guests like this? maciem biaDAP siot..

edit - korekted for /k
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not because his guest treated the "whites" like an ass in the first place?
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May 22 2025, 01:34 PM
This post has been deleted by diffyhelman2 because: dont you read? no need to duplicate the topic

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QUOTE(bill11 @ May 22 2025, 01:30 PM)
not because his guest treated the "whites" like an ass in the first place?
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why not just wassap or zoom call him? make him come all the way to grandstand him maciem sohem lol
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QUOTE(nothomobutsuper @ May 22 2025, 01:29 PM)
So nobody show trump video about idf soldier and gaza genocide ke ?
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White Life Matters, yo!

Every year school shooting, white boys cold blooded killers will be conveniently be label as mental disorders, not as terrorist.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 22 2025, 01:34 PM)
White Life Matters, yo!

Every year school shooting, white boys cold blooded killers will be conveniently be label as mental disorders, not as terrorist.
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you and malema and jamal yunos would prbably get a long real well at mamak session.

"kill the ASDHJGAD"

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LOL, this is cinema
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QUOTE(Starbucki @ May 22 2025, 01:34 PM)
why not just wassap or zoom call him? make him come all the way to grandstand him maciem sohem lol
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So that the whole world see that video of Malema chanting, "Kill the Boer," la. In case you didn't notice, the news cameraman didn't point the camera at the TV, but still can hear the chants. This is not some cult in the middle of nowhere, this is a party in South Africa's National Assembly.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 01:39 PM)
So that the whole world see that video of Malema chanting, "Kill the Boer," la. In case you didn't notice, the news cameraman didn't point the camera at the TV, but still can hear the chants. This is not some cult in the middle of nowhere, this is a party in South Africa's National Assembly.
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Thanks to this I’m become aware of SA reverse apartheid, extreme violent society even their own black minister admit to and their safe haven independent country within a country for whites.

Orania
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 03:02 AM)
Absolutely got hidden hands behind this sustained global campaign. Just ask petpenyubobo

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Trevor Noah doesn't believe in this. When to comes BLM he cites the stats and says point blank go issue. But when ppl bring up white farmers being offed significantly higher in SA he says need to look into the stats deeper. Surely got underlying causes

Bit of a cunt that Fellla
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 03:02 AM)
using heavily biased wikipedia as source, western liberals are fking cancer to society
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 01:44 PM)
Trevor Noah doesn't believe in this. When to comes BLM he cites the stats and says point blank go issue. But when ppl bring up white farmers being offed significantly higher in SA he says need to look into the stats deeper. Surely got underlying causes

Bit of a cunt that Fellla
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I will laugh if Malema's gang targets him because he's not black enough.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 22 2025, 01:36 PM)
you and malema and jamal yunos would prbably  get a long  real well at mamak session.

"kill the ASDHJGAD"
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That would be you, not me.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 01:45 PM)
I will laugh if Malema's gang targets him because he's not black enough.
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He's overseas most of the time if not a full time American

He plays the yes i know my privilege i'm blessed bla bla to start off interviews. Then slowly goes the activist i'm on of you guys route later

Very blatant hypocrite. I like Jon Stewart even though he's biased but Trevor Noah rubs me wrong


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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 01:44 PM)
Trevor Noah doesn't believe in this. When to comes BLM he cites the stats and says point blank go issue. But when ppl bring up white farmers being offed significantly higher in SA he says need to look into the stats deeper. Surely got underlying causes

Bit of a cunt that Fellla
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send him back to live in the black majority areas that SA black woman minister talking about at 54:00 in the video
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QUOTE(terradrive @ May 22 2025, 01:44 PM)
using heavily biased wikipedia as source, western liberals are fking cancer to society
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This same people join the Pro Palestine protests wink.gif
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 22 2025, 01:48 PM)
send him back to live in the black majority areas that SA black woman minister talking about at 54:00 in the video
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He probably lives in the states now.

If not an american surely on some form of long term visa

SA is a waste. Even the most politically correct channel calls it a failed state and extremely corrupt. From f-ed up power supply to looming water shortage not to mention the crime and the urban decay. They wont mention the GDP growth under apartheid and will always give context that things are better than apartheid but they also cannot hold back on the shit it has become.

Mandela didnt bust out of prison and unite the ppl for this shit
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 22 2025, 01:48 PM)
This same people join the Pro Palestine protests wink.gif
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I don't mind if you support palestinian people, but they are mentally insane, taking universities into hostage, breaking properties, blocking students from going to class etc. Freaking adult babies throwing tantrums.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 01:47 PM)
He's overseas most of the time if not a full time American

He plays the yes i know my privilege i'm blessed bla bla to start off interviews. Then slowly goes the activist i'm on of you guys route later

Very blatant hypocrite. I like Jon Stewart even though he's biased but Trevor Noah rubs me wrong
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These hypocrites deny violence is happening while they live in their gated community bubbles.

They are completely out of touch with the average person, which is why they have been screeching for 10 years about why Trump won (twice).
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 01:50 PM)
He probably lives in the states now.

If not an american surely on some form of long term visa

SA is a waste. Even the most politically correct channel calls it a failed state and extremely corrupt. From f-ed up power supply to looming water shortage not to mention the crime and the urban decay. They wont mention the GDP growth under apartheid and will always give context that things are better than apartheid but they also cannot hold back on the shit it has become.

Mandela didnt bust out of prison and unite the ppl for this shit
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one good thing about some afrikaner, here locals say you x suka you keluar (and many do), over there, you tell them that they say

"F U, imma gonna set up my own country in your country!"



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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 01:50 PM)
He probably lives in the states now.

If not an american surely on some form of long term visa

SA is a waste. Even the most politically correct channel calls it a failed state and extremely corrupt. From f-ed up power supply to looming water shortage not to mention the crime and the urban decay. They wont mention the GDP growth under apartheid and will always give context that things are better than apartheid but they also cannot hold back on the shit it has become.

Mandela didnt bust out of prison and unite the ppl for this shit
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They literally shot the Dredd movie in South Africa to save costs on not building a set for a dystopian city. Just shoot it in a real life dystopian city kek.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 01:54 PM)
They literally shot the Dredd movie in South Africa to save costs on not building a set for a dystopian city. Just shoot it in a real life dystopian city kek.
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wasnt that a 2012 movie? the country was nicer back then
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 01:54 PM)
They literally shot the Dredd movie in South Africa to save costs on not building a set for a dystopian city. Just shoot it in a real life dystopian city kek.
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WTF

I always thought it was some place in Mexico with CGI to "uglify" it

Dystopian all right
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 22 2025, 01:55 PM)
wasnt that a 2012 movie? the country was nicer back then
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Maybe that's one of the reasons there's no sequel. sad.gif
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for the South Africa history, before Mandela is white version of Apartheid, after Mandela is black version of Apartheid...
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 22 2025, 01:53 PM)
one good thing about some afrikaner, here locals say you x suka you keluar (and many do), over there, you tell them that they say

"F U, imma gonna set up my own country in your country!"


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This cannot work ler long term

White only enclaves with their own power generation and water supply possible. But for businesses, factories or farms no way you can do it. You live on inherited money passive income you can stay inside. Else you have to have a workplace outside subject to power shortage, water shortage and crime.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 01:55 PM)
WTF

I always thought it was some place in Mexico with CGI to "uglify" it

Dystopian all right
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Filming took place on practical sets and locations in Cape Town and Johannesburg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dredd#

QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 01:57 PM)
This cannot work ler long term

White only enclaves with their own power generation and water supply possible. But for businesses, factories or farms no way you can do it. You live on inherited money passive income you can stay inside. Else you have to have a workplace outside subject to power shortage, water shortage and crime.
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And also, the blacks can zerg rush this town.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 01:50 PM)
He probably lives in the states now.

If not an american surely on some form of long term visa

SA is a waste. Even the most politically correct channel calls it a failed state and extremely corrupt. From f-ed up power supply to looming water shortage not to mention the crime and the urban decay. They wont mention the GDP growth under apartheid and will always give context that things are better than apartheid but they also cannot hold back on the shit it has become.

Mandela didnt bust out of prison and unite the ppl for this shit
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SA is really corrupted to the core. Not just racist to the whites, they kill their own people too.

Read the Marikana Massacre of 2012. The authorities openly massacre abused mining workers that's protesting for better living conditions and wage. There's multiple times they murdered unarmed mining workers prior to the big massacre.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 01:57 PM)
This cannot work ler long term

White only enclaves with their own power generation and water supply possible. But for businesses, factories or farms no way you can do it. You live on inherited money passive income you can stay inside. Else you have to have a workplace outside subject to power shortage, water shortage and crime.
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orania is set up in 1991. they have their own farms and businesses. they did that by bringing in water to turn arid areas into farmland. thats why the SA gomen didnt object when they set up this colony cause the land was middle of nowhere and arid.

QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 01:59 PM)
And also, the blacks can zerg rush this town.
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haiz, unfortunate they did not choose an area with mountains as natural barrier.

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 01:59 PM)
Filming took place on practical sets and locations in Cape Town and Johannesburg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dredd#
And also, the blacks can zerg rush this town.
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Thats why ppl should play games like Civ, Sim City, Cities Skyline or Populous kek

Citizens are tax payers. Your goal is to make sure everyone earns as much as possible so you can collect more tax. You can be a racist cunt to get elected i guess. But once you govern its in your interest to be colour blind
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 02:02 PM)
Thats why ppl should play games like Civ, Sim City, Cities Skyline or Populous kek

Citizens are tax payers. Your goal is to make sure everyone earns as much as possible so you can collect more tax. You can be a racist cunt to get elected i guess. But once you govern its in your interest to be colour blind
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Malaysia Baru 1.0 tried that, didn't work, deswai we have Malaysia Baru 0.5 now.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 22 2025, 01:59 PM)
orania is set up in 1991. they have their own farms and businesses. they did that by bringing in water to turn arid areas into farmland. thats why the SA gomen didnt object when they set up this colony cause the land was middle of nowhere and arid.
haiz, unfortunate they did not choose an area with mountains as natural barrier.
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Hmm interesting

But wiki say population 2K ++

Run on solar i bet at night they have to crank out the diesel gensets also

I mean for a Sim City scenario ok la. But not a blueprint for the nation


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 02:04 PM)
Malaysia Baru 1.0 tried that, didn't work, deswai we have Malaysia Baru 0.5 now.
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Actually here i disagree

All parties from BN to PH to MN to MN++ to PHBN are actually capitalist at heart

They know its in the best interest to enlarge the pie. Of course its also makes it easier for them to eat but generally its all about capitalism

For that i'm grateful kek
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haiz, unfortunate they did not choose an area with mountains as natural barrier.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 02:04 PM)
Hmm interesting

But wiki say population 2K ++

Run on solar i bet at night they have to crank out the diesel gensets also

I mean for a Sim City scenario ok la. But not a blueprint for the nation
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Freedom_Fighters#

Malema's party got 1 million members. If they zerg rush this town sure die.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 02:07 PM)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Freedom_Fighters#

Malema's party got 1 million members. If they zerg rush this town sure die.
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Interesting

Marxist teaching lagi.

There is a reason Karl Marx work appeals to the downtrodden. It gives them hope. But this is the 21st century. With trade and modern technology we live in more abundant times as last time. This is false hope. This ideology doesnt apply anymore.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 02:07 PM)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Freedom_Fighters#

Malema's party got 1 million members. If they zerg rush this town sure die.
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eh . battle of blood river 500: 30000

so equivalent is like orania everyone in that town vs 120K EEF figthers. I bet out of those 1million most cant fight. if you wathc the video most of the inhabitants are fit because all of them have to work since they cant use outside labour.

so battle is not foregone conclusion
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 02:05 PM)
Actually here i disagree

All parties from BN to PH to MN to MN++ to PHBN are actually capitalist at heart

They know its in the best interest to enlarge the pie. Of course its also makes it easier for them to eat but generally its all about capitalism

For that i'm grateful kek
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Is it the Malaysia Baru that they promised before 2018?

In the end the best that Malaysia can ever hope for is UMNO forever. Meanwhile, our own Malema gang grows stronger due to demographics.
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without the whites, the blacks will die.

trump should send all american blacks and exchange with all the whites.

then bomb the shit out that shithole and get their oil and gold as a repayment to the whites who build the country.

dasar ketuanan african kononnnn puiihhh
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QUOTE(Pain 9000 @ May 22 2025, 02:12 PM)
without the whites, the blacks will die.

trump should send all american blacks and exchange with all the whites.

then bomb the shit out that shithole and get their oil and gold as a repayment to the whites who build the country.

dasar ketuanan african kononnnn puiihhh
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 22 2025, 02:10 PM)
eh . battle of blood river 500: 30000

so equivalent is like orania everyone in that town vs 120K EEF figthers. I bet out of those 1million most cant fight. if you wathc the video most of the inhabitants are fit because all of them have to work since they cant use outside labour.

so battle is not foregone conclusion
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1 million is just registered members. What about unregistered supporters?
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She still obese. Give another few years there and she will achieve slim African body
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Has BLM made any comments yet about this latest Trump news?
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1 million is just registered members. What about unregistered supporters?
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Well there is 2 movies you can watch, i think still on Youtube

Zulu and Zulu dawn

Discipline and firepower can trump numbers to an extent

There were on Netflix for some time
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She still obese. Give another few years there and she will achieve slim African body
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In South Africa today, more than half of the adult population – including more than two thirds of women – are living with overweight or obesity. Prevalence of obesity has increased dramatically over the last two decades and noncommunicable diseases (NCDs) are now responsible for more deaths and disability than HIV and AIDS or tuberculosis.

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Well there is 2 movies you can watch, i think still on Youtube

Zulu and Zulu dawn

Discipline and firepower can trump numbers to an extent

There were on Netflix for some time
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So back to my question. Is South Africa a beautiful country or a shithole ?
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I cannot tahan the part of the idiot quartermaster distributing ammo like an aunty counting change at the cashier. And insisting ppl queue up and no black porters can collect

Reminds me of inept middle management in a time of crisis

You watch the movie later and you tell me geram or not kek
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If I were the SA president, I'd just reply, "We just follow what White did to Red Indians in the US.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 22 2025, 02:28 PM)
Well there is 2 movies you can watch, i think still on Youtube

Zulu and Zulu dawn

Discipline and firepower can trump numbers to an extent

There were on Netflix for some time
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One side is Quality. Another side is Quantity.

German weapons and superior tactics also could counteract much superior Russian numbers in WW2 but when the difference is more than 10 to 1, then that became too much. But Germany was fighting the whole world also.
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 22 2025, 02:32 PM)
One side is Quality. Another side is Quantity.

German weapons and superior tactics also could counteract much superior Russian numbers in WW2 but when the difference is more than 10 to 1, then that became too much. But Germany was fighting the whole world also.
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I still respect the Germans man

Eastern front was easliy a world war by itself in scale and casualties

To nearly win and then when the Russian counterattack hold out so long is a miracle.


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Jootube manyak laju.


It's easy to identify a consummate diplomat by his calm and articulate response, relaxed body language...
unlike the other one in the green fatigue... 🤣


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If I were the SA president, I'd just reply, "We just follow what White did to Red Indians in the US.
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 22 2025, 02:32 PM)
One side is Quality. Another side is Quantity.

German weapons and superior tactics also could counteract much superior Russian numbers in WW2 but when the difference is more than 10 to 1, then that became too much. But Germany was fighting the whole world also.
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Both were civilized nations just different level of industrialization so the difference not so bad. Otoh what if they faced this kind of army?

https://youtu.be/IXYLfrx33PM
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People who use history as an excuse to commit future wrong doings are bad people.
God can see and ever knowing.
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Okay then it is no difference than the US supplying ammunition to Israel for genocide (well that is history too) biggrin.gif
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People who use history as an excuse to commit future wrong doings are bad people.
God can see and ever knowing.
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Well since I'm on leave here is an interesting anecdote kek



Yeah white man took by force from the native Americans

Ironically no different than what native Americans were doing to each other. I think some tribes were wiped out even before white man came to the plains Gulp.

End of the day we live in more peaceful abundant and technologically advanced times. There is always a viable peaceful solution
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 22 2025, 02:38 PM)
Both were civilized nations just different level of industrialization so the difference not so bad. Otoh what if they faced this kind of army?

https://youtu.be/IXYLfrx33PM
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Let a Black American say, don't talk so much about what Black South Africans are allegedly doing to Whites in SA.

WTF did the Whites do to Black Africans in the past and why they ended up in America or what happened to the Native Indians of America 😉
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Okay then it is no difference than the US supplying ammunition to Israel for genocide (well that is history too)  biggrin.gif
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The reason why there's never any long lasting peace in Israel/Palestine is because both sides can never let go of historical vengeance.

Who supplied Hamas with weapons and drones? They didn't attack Israel using sticks and stones.


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QUOTE(Zot @ May 22 2025, 02:39 PM)
Okay then it is no difference than the US supplying ammunition to Israel for genocide (well that is history too)  biggrin.gif
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You have the right to question it. Take it up with the US.
But to say things like we should have the right to violence over Japanese people because they invaded us in the past ....that is just bad.
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So back to my question. Is South Africa a beautiful country or a shithole ?
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ May 22 2025, 02:45 PM)
Let a Black American say, don't talk so much about what Black South Africans are allegedly doing to Whites in SA.

WTF did the Whites do to Black Africans in the past and why they ended up in America or what happened to the Native Indians of America 😉
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Well, blacks were practicing slavery on each other and lighter skin Arabs were in many cases the slave traders in history, but nobody talks about it.

In America, the native Indians were warring on each other and butchering each other just like in Sarawak before White man came to give law and order and stop the headhunting.... wink.gif
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 02:45 PM)
The reason why there's never any long lasting peace in Israel/Palestine is because both sides can never let go of historical vengeance.

Who supplied Hamas with weapons and drones? They didn't attack Israel using sticks and stones.
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At the risk of derailing tered , not because of hoe Lee land?
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 22 2025, 02:50 PM)
Well, blacks were practicing slavery on each other and lighter skin Arabs were in many cases the slave traders in history, but nobody talks about it.

In America, the native Indians were warring on each other and butchering each other just like in Sarawak before White man came to give law and order and stop the headhunting.... wink.gif
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Yea same like the Whites fighting, persecuting one another so some ran to America. And then they also had the Great Civil War. Your point?
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Yea same like the Whites fighting, persecuting one another so some ran to America. And then they also had the Great Civil War. Your point?
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America is the model that is full of flaws, but still the model for others to follow?

You can ask Alvin Tan. Kek.

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At the risk of derailing tered , not because of hoe Lee land?
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Alamak 3 day Reddit ban because say Chosen People...

Ho Lee Land another reason why never ending bloodshed. Sien.


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Watch the whitehouse version to see S.African Elon's reaction to the press conference.



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America is the model that is full of flaws, but still the model for others to follow?
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Emulate the good but not the bad. Ok...
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 02:45 PM)
The reason why there's never any long lasting peace in Israel/Palestine is because both sides can never let go of historical vengeance.

Who supplied Hamas with weapons and drones? They didn't attack Israel using sticks and stones.
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That is because Israel ingression into land beyond their border recognized by UN for years, demolishing Palestinians home that have been there for decades establishing illegal establishment. It was true that Palestinians were against formation of Israel but now they are willing to recognize it with Israel withdrawal from their land and formation of two countries which Israel would never want because Israel want the whole land. With formation of Palestinian state, it would mean that they are invading other country.
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ May 22 2025, 02:54 PM)
Yea same like the Whites fighting, persecuting one another so some ran to America. And then they also had the Great Civil War. Your point?
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If there is a point to be made, I hope people will not use what happened in the past as justification for violence, retribution and subjugation.
And also as free individuals, we should not be made to pay for sins committed by our ancestors. Would it be fair if some stranger comes up to you and say you need to pay him reparations because your granddad took his ancestor as slave ?
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QUOTE(Zot @ May 22 2025, 03:00 PM)
That is because Israel ingression into land beyond their border recognized by UN for years, demolishing Palestinians home that have been there for decades establishing illegal establishment. It was true that Palestinians were against formation of Israel but now they are willing to recognize it with Israel withdrawal from their land and formation of two countries which Israel would never want because Israel want the whole land. With formation of Palestinian state, it would mean that they are invading other country.
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There will never be peace in this place. Itu saja saya punya komen.

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QUOTE(Penamer @ May 22 2025, 02:58 PM)
Watch the whitehouse version to see S.African Elon's reaction to the press conference.


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Looks like he trying hard to contain his smirk while watchin ramaposha been embarrassed
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There will never be peace in this place. Itu saja saya punya komen.
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Looks like he trying hard to contain his smirk while watchin ramaposha been embarrassed
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8:54 He say NBC example of fake news in America.
19:40 Elon burst out laughing.

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 04:22 PM)
8:54 He say NBC example of fake news in America.
19:40 Elon burst out laughing.
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kek even funnier what follows

Rama: "I'll answer for the prez. it will take mr president to listen to south africans talking about the real situation about white farmers genocide, which I can assure you these people would not be here if there was"

Trump: Ok , play the tape please....

shoot , shoot the farmer!...

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8:54 He say NBC example of fake news in America.


oh its the same guy who later asked him about the qatar jet right after the video. no wonder TRump exploded on him..... context....

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https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1923109980367950242

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i think that tweet is also misleading and unfair. the question use the word treason in the context of asking a foreign power to interfere in the domestic affairs of another country, which it is. imagine certain puak here go appeal to dage, bharat soros etc for plotektion whenever got any racial injustice. sure "derhaka!" will be mentioned.
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i think that tweet is also misleading and unfair. the question use the word treason in the context of asking a foreign power to interfere in the domestic affairs of another country, which it is. imagine certain puak here go appeal to dage, bharat soros etc for plotektion whenever got any racial injustice. sure "derhaka!" will be mentioned.
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https://x.com/TimcastNews/status/1922333629100765325

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looks like SA is kinda fark up place to be.. already 2025 still got ppl cut throat hunt down based on skin color..
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I don't know.

Guy brought his White Agri Minister from an opposition party along to chat...
like apalagilumau? 😁


@00:40:00
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eh, then got another reason to claim refugee status liao, even more high status, political asylum
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lucky bang non decide to meet putin than trump
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the blacks will not survive without the whites.

the whites are being pulled down by the blacks.

only upperhand is that blacks are large in number, nothing else.


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Absolutely got hidden hands behind this sustained global campaign. Just ask petpenyubobo

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World leaders have a huge new problem: Trump’s Oval Office smackdowns
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/21/politics...eeting-analysis
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 23 2025, 12:25 PM)
I think civil war and breakup of SA is likely if things dont change

https://x.com/Lebo_PulumoM/status/1925278679585706067
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I think civil war and breakup of SA is likely if things dont change

https://x.com/Lebo_PulumoM/status/1925278679585706067
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South Africans praise Ramaphosa for keeping cool amid Trump attack
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2025/...id-trump-attack
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Trump's image of dead 'white farmers' came from Reuters footage in Congo, not South Africa
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FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump shows a copy of an article that he said its about white South Africans who had been killed, in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., May 21, 2025. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque/File Photo

JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump showed a screenshot of Reuters video taken in the Democratic Republic of Congo as part of what he falsely presented on Wednesday as evidence of mass killings of white South Africans.

"These are all white farmers that are being buried," said Trump, holding up a print-out of an article accompanied by the picture during a contentious Oval Office meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa.

In fact, the video, published by Reuters on February 3 and subsequently verified by the news agency's fact check team, showed humanitarian workers lifting body bags in the Congolese city of Goma. The image was pulled from Reuters footage shot following deadly battles with Rwanda-backed M23 rebels.

The blog post showed to Ramaphosa by Trump during the White House meeting was published by American Thinker, a conservative online magazine, about conflict and racial tensions in South Africa and Congo.

The post did not caption the image but identified it as a "YouTube screen grab" with a link to a video news report about Congo on YouTube, which credited Reuters.

The White House did not respond to a request for comment. Andrea Widburg, managing editor at American Thinker and the author of the post in question, wrote in reply to a Reuters query that Trump had "misidentified the image."

She added, however, that the post, which referred to what it called Ramaphosa's "dysfunctional, race-obsessed Marxist government", had "pointed out the increasing pressure placed on white South Africans."

The footage from which the picture was taken shows a mass burial following an M23 assault on Goma, filmed by Reuters video journalist Djaffar Al Katanty.

"That day, it was extremely difficult for journalists to get in ... I had to negotiate directly with M23 and coordinate with the ICRC to be allowed to film," Al Katanty said. "Only Reuters has video."

Al Katanty said seeing Trump holding the article with the screengrab of his video came as a shock.

"In view of all the world, President Trump used my image, used what I filmed in DRC to try to convince President Ramaphosa that in his country, white people are being killed by Black people," Al Katanty said.

Ramaphosa visited Washington this week to try to mend ties with the United States after persistent criticism from Trump in recent months over South Africa's land laws, foreign policy, and alleged bad treatment of its white minority, which South Africa denies.

Trump interrupted the televised meeting with Ramaphosa to play a video, which he said showed evidence of genocide of white farmers in South Africa. This conspiracy theory, which has circulated in far-right chat rooms for years, is based on false claims.

Trump then proceeded to flip through printed copies of articles that he said detailed murders of white South Africans, saying "death, death, death, horrible death".

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2025/...ot-south-africa
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...Trump showed a screenshot of Reuters video taken in the Democratic Republic of Congo as part of what he falsely presented on Wednesday as evidence of mass killings of white South Africans...
😁 Someone should get fired.

Which Dem intern did dat? 🤣
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Africa is a really beautiful continent. You just need to live behind electric fences, have private army and bullet proof cars. Like this ccp biz woman in Angola


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We prioritise security, we use local (our own people china people)

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So that the whole world see that video of Malema chanting, "Kill the Boer," la. In case you didn't notice, the news cameraman didn't point the camera at the TV, but still can hear the chants. This is not some cult in the middle of nowhere, this is a party in South Africa's National Assembly.
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isn’t malema is opposition? not the ruling party anc
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isn’t malema is opposition? not the ruling party anc
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So?

Do you feel it's ok when PuAS keep threatening repeat of M-13?

Do you deny South Africa is a very violent place? How to attract FDI from angmoh when your country is hyper violent and the 4th largest political party in your country is chanting "Kill the Boer"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjBu6VZWE7k

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"Kill the Boer"?
Boer means what?

The other day got thread, Kambing Boer Hidup for sale in Shopee...same Boer? 😁


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You use locals? Nono we don't use local

We prioritise security, we use local (our own people china people)

Kek la
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 23 2025, 05:06 PM)
So?

Do you feel it's ok when PuAS keep threatening repeat of M-13?

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I see a lot of parallels between SA gov reps in that meeting with trump and ours with XJP.

ramaposha = BMX

black ministers sitting there without saying a word = Umno sellouts like Akmal

malema/EFF scolding all of the blacks for been sellouts and good doggies to Boers/DAPigs = PuAs

white agri minister = anthony lok lok

baas ruther / bass els etc = Type C biz tycoons like vincent tan etc

now just need to figure out who is a parallel for carl niehaus...someone who's a Boer who marches together with people chanting "shoot the boers"


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Boer means what?
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0:32 "Must never be scared to kill. A revolution demands that at some point, there must be killing."

0:44 "Shoot to kill. Kill the Boer, the farmer."

1:23 "Go after a white man."

1:43 "You are cutting the throat of whiteness."

1:46 "Shoot to kill. Kill the Boer, the farmer."

2:22 "We have not called for the killing of white people. At least for now. I can't guarantee the future."

3:17 "We will expropriate land without compensation whether they like it or not. If they object, they can seek refuge in America."

If you don't want to watch that means you choose to be ignorant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubul'_ib...Legal_decisions

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Following a complaint from the Freedom Front the South African Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) ruled that the song amounted to hate speech in the context of a post-apartheid South Africa that was seeking reconciliation.[54]

2010 North Gauteng High Court decision

In April 2010 the North Gauteng High Court[55] interdicted and restrained Julius Malema from publicly uttering the words of the song pending a decision by the Equality Court where a complaint regarding the song had already been laid.[55]

2011 Equality Court decision

In September 2011, the Equality Court at the South Gauteng High Court ruled that the song was discriminatory, harmful, undermined the dignity of Afrikaners, and thereby constituted hate speech;[40] and that it "prima facie satisfies the crime of incitement to murder".[56] The court ruled that Julius Malema, who was brought before the court for previously singing the song at rallies, was forbidden from singing it in the future.[40] Following the ruling Malema changed the wording of the song to "Kiss the Boer" and sang that instead[57]—however, it can be argued to still have the same psychological influence as the original, due to the well-known context for the altered lyrics. The following year, the ANC stated that they would not sing the song any more.[57]

2019 Human Rights Commission ruling

The SAHRC acquitted Malema on five accounts of hate speech towards White and Indian South Africans, one of the charges being for the singing of an altered "Kiss the boer" version of "Dubul' ibhunu".[58] The SAHRC found that although Malema's comments were "still quite problematic to us in a democratic society that is committed to healing the divisions"[58] the charges brought against him were an attempt at suppressing "legitimate criticism and debate".[58] In July 2023 the Johannesburg High Court set aside the 2019 SAHRC finding, ruling that the SAHRC had acted outside its mandate in its finding on hateful speech.[59]

2022 Johannesburg High Court decision

Malema, now leader of the EFF, again appeared in court in 2022 for allegedly singing the song in a case brought by Afriforum where the issue of whether or not the song was hate speech was debated.[60] The Johannesburg High Court ruled that the chant and song were not intended to be taken seriously; that Afriforum had failed to establish a causal link between the song and violence;[61][62] that the reference to Boer did not literally refer to White or Afrikaans people; that the song did not incite hatred towards White people generally; and ruled the song was not hate speech.[62][63][64] Afriforum appealed the decision and in 2024 the Supreme Court of Appeal confirmed the High Court's verdict that the song, as sung during the Senekal incidents, was not hate speech


South African president signs controversial land seizure law

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In April 2012, Reuters quoted Theo de Jager, vice president of AgriSA, as saying, "I visited more than 200 farms that have been transferred over the last two and half years and I haven't been on one that is a commercial success. None of those farmers are making a profit. And if it is not profitable, it's not sustainable."[3]

In May 2025, Associated Press wrote, "Animal welfare officers faced the grisly task of euthanizing more than 350,000 chickens by hand after they were left starving and cannibalizing each other when a South African state-owned poultry company ran out of money to feed them, officials said Tuesday."


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now just need to figure out who is a parallel for carl niehaus...someone who's a Boer who marches together with people chanting "shoot the boers"
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heh i wonder whats the zulu version for that chant but toward hook nose?

dhubulu zoozoo?
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oh another intriguing whatif ....in years to come can local type c be given refugee status in motherland like trump give to boers?
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heh i wonder whats the zulu version for that chant but toward hook nose?

dhubulu zoozoo?
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Kek wut?

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 23 2025, 06:04 PM)
oh another intriguing whatif ....in years to come can local type c be given refugee status in motherland like trump give to boers?
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Yini saya sudah lama tanya Wolf Warriors.
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Kek wut?
Yini saya sudah lama tanya Wolf Warriors.
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I don’t know why in this world only a few cultures have very strong concept of Aliyah and roots. Modern Dutch people reject afrikaners as refugee brothers cause they left 400 years ago.


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isn’t malema is opposition? not the ruling party anc
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Heh. Another Malaysia parallel. Rakyat mudah di permainkan.
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I don’t know why in this world only a few cultures have very strong concept of Aliyah and roots. Modern Dutch people reject afrikaners as refugee brothers cause they left 400 years ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Netherlands/s/zW6YDQA7Ge
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Why Wolf Warriors talk about 1 Root but don't have Aliyah?
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Why Wolf Warriors talk about 1 Root but don't have Aliyah?
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He got really emotional in this video


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you and malema and jamal yunos would prbably  get a long  real well at mamak session.

"kill the ASDHJGAD"
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He got really emotional in this video
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Lol, European people, tak habis-habis nak curi tanah orang lain and playing victim by making out stories, while conveniently turning blind-eye to their own people committing genocide in the Middle East.

Then blame African for having corrupt leaders, which they themselves install to exploit those countries' natural resource dirt cheap.

If the African leader is not corruptible, they will make fake stories, try to assassinate, start a coup, and so on.

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Lol, European people, tak habis-habis nak curi tanah orang lain and playing victim by making out stories, while conveniently turning blind-eye to their own people committing genocide in the Middle East.

Then blame African for having corrupt leaders, which they themselves install to exploit those countries' natural resource dirt cheap.

If the African leader is not corruptible, they will make fake stories, try to assassinate, start a coup, and so on.
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Dei, it's a template that even China follows la. How you think they can build up their Belt and Road thing using substandard tofu materials until it endangers the lives of the native population people, like what happened in Thailand. dry.gif

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. At least those "evil white men" did not stoop that low.

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Trump's image of dead 'white farmers' came from Reuters footage in Congo, not South Africa
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FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump shows a copy of an article that he said its about white South Africans who had been killed, in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., May 21, 2025. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque/File Photo

JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump showed a screenshot of Reuters video taken in the Democratic Republic of Congo as part of what he falsely presented on Wednesday as evidence of mass killings of white South Africans.

"These are all white farmers that are being buried," said Trump, holding up a print-out of an article accompanied by the picture during a contentious Oval Office meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa.

In fact, the video, published by Reuters on February 3 and subsequently verified by the news agency's fact check team, showed humanitarian workers lifting body bags in the Congolese city of Goma. The image was pulled from Reuters footage shot following deadly battles with Rwanda-backed M23 rebels.

The blog post showed to Ramaphosa by Trump during the White House meeting was published by American Thinker, a conservative online magazine, about conflict and racial tensions in South Africa and Congo.

The post did not caption the image but identified it as a "YouTube screen grab" with a link to a video news report about Congo on YouTube, which credited Reuters.

The White House did not respond to a request for comment. Andrea Widburg, managing editor at American Thinker and the author of the post in question, wrote in reply to a Reuters query that Trump had "misidentified the image."

She added, however, that the post, which referred to what it called Ramaphosa's "dysfunctional, race-obsessed Marxist government", had "pointed out the increasing pressure placed on white South Africans."

The footage from which the picture was taken shows a mass burial following an M23 assault on Goma, filmed by Reuters video journalist Djaffar Al Katanty.

"That day, it was extremely difficult for journalists to get in ... I had to negotiate directly with M23 and coordinate with the ICRC to be allowed to film," Al Katanty said. "Only Reuters has video."

Al Katanty said seeing Trump holding the article with the screengrab of his video came as a shock.

"In view of all the world, President Trump used my image, used what I filmed in DRC to try to convince President Ramaphosa that in his country, white people are being killed by Black people," Al Katanty said.

Ramaphosa visited Washington this week to try to mend ties with the United States after persistent criticism from Trump in recent months over South Africa's land laws, foreign policy, and alleged bad treatment of its white minority, which South Africa denies.

Trump interrupted the televised meeting with Ramaphosa to play a video, which he said showed evidence of genocide of white farmers in South Africa. This conspiracy theory, which has circulated in far-right chat rooms for years, is based on false claims.

Trump then proceeded to flip through printed copies of articles that he said detailed murders of white South Africans, saying "death, death, death, horrible death".

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2025/...ot-south-africa
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lol even though trump made a mistake on this, still doesn't change the fact that there's racist killings in south africa

or are you saying that congo photo means there no white killings? What a taichi to deflect from the true horrible homocides, instead of talking about serious human right's violation, wrong photo is more important
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Lol, European people, tak habis-habis nak curi tanah orang lain and playing victim by making out stories, while conveniently turning blind-eye to their own people committing genocide in the Middle East.

Then blame African for having corrupt leaders, which they themselves install to exploit those countries' natural resource dirt cheap.

If the African leader is not corruptible, they will make fake stories, try to assassinate, start a coup, and so on.
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Ya la yala your orang asli is the uber mensch la. Asbon delusion
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Ya la yala your orang asli is the uber mensch la. Asbon delusion
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If pmx go there, what will trump show??

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Lol, European people, tak habis-habis nak curi tanah orang lain and playing victim by making out stories, while conveniently turning blind-eye to their own people committing genocide in the Middle East.

Then blame African for having corrupt leaders, which they themselves install to exploit those countries' natural resource dirt cheap.

If the African leader is not corruptible, they will make fake stories, try to assassinate, start a coup, and so on.
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Since you believe in this kind of karmic retribution, beware maybe one day your own people kena for taking orang asli land.
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Since you believe in this kind of karmic retribution, beware maybe one day your own people kena for taking orang asli land.
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You slow. He believes he is Orang asli heritage
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Malay came here very long time ago not because they are brought in as cheap labor, or they are trying to exploit the natural resources.

They come here to live in harmony with mother nature and orang asli.

There were many battles that Malay had defended this land from outsiders, without Malay, most orang asli would be long gone already.

That's why there are so many tribes of orang asli here because they have lived in harmony with Malays.

But greed has corrupted everyone here, so orang asli became victim because of those greed who are eyeing the place that they have called their ancestral land.
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Since you believe in this kind of karmic retribution, beware maybe one day your own people kena for taking orang asli land.
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You slow. He believes he is Orang asli heritage
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Saya orang pendatang, bukan orang asli.
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Dont BS lah. You come from a place where Money is literally upheld as "God". Amirite?
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lol even though trump made a mistake on this, still doesn't change the fact that there's racist killings in south africa

or are you saying that congo photo means there no white killings? What a taichi to deflect from the true horrible homocides, instead of talking about serious human right's violation, wrong photo is more important
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No one is saying that using the wrong photo means there is no white killings in South Africa.

Just that it weakens your credibility using the wrong images.

Malaysia has a problem with haze, but using pictures of a bushfire in Greece to describe it would make as much sense as using pictures of Congo to describe what is happening in South Africa.
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No one is saying that using the wrong photo means there is no white killings in South Africa.

Just that it weakens your credibility using the wrong images.

Malaysia has a problem with haze, but using pictures of a bushfire in Greece to describe it would make as much sense as using pictures of Congo to describe what is happening in South Africa.
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his credibility can go to zero but the white killins are still happening

the problem is that this kind of rhetoric is dishonest diversion for some particular ideology, look at the american msm articles before the congo photo issue.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ May 24 2025, 12:28 PM)
his credibility can go to zero but the white killins are still happening

the problem is that this kind of rhetoric is dishonest diversion for some particular ideology, look at the american msm articles before the congo photo issue.
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The question is, is it to the level where you take them in as refugees

The ethnic Chinese in Malaysia face many problems, but not to the level that qualify for refugee status

Well, you wouldn't know if you read Australian Asylum Tribunal Cases. What they claim you'd believe that Malaysian Chinese are being actively persecuted.
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The question is, is it to the level where you take them in as refugees

The ethnic Chinese in Malaysia face many problems, but not to the level that qualify for refugee status

Well, you wouldn't know if you read Australian Asylum Tribunal Cases. What they claim you'd believe that Malaysian Chinese are being actively persecuted.
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Are you seriously comparing afrikans racist attacks with malaysian race discrimination? Fear of being killed vs university quotas?

By the way, you don't even understand why trump did this, the main target isn't really south african politicians, it's to expose the hypocrite democrats who advocates for illegal immigrants by claiming they are refugees while at the same time wants to stop south african legal refugees because they are white.

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Are you seriously comparing afrikans racist attacks with malaysian race discrimination? Fear of being killed vs university quotas?

By the way, you don't even understand why trump did this, the main target isn't really south african politicians, it's to expose the hypocrite democrats who advocates for illegal immigrants by claiming they are refugees while at the same time wants to stop south african legal refugees because they are white.
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Go and read Australian Asylum tribunal cases

"The police are mostly Malay and wouldn't protect me"
"Our family business was attacked by Malay gangsters and the police who are mostly Malay wouldn't protect us"
"My family business was too successful so the government took it away and gave it to the Malays"
"The tried to force me to convert to Islam and if I didn't, they would burn down my house"

As I said, the Afrikans of South Africa have problems, but they are not at the level where they meet the threshold for asylum.

But if someone in Australia stands up and say that the Malaysian Chinese face racist attacks and "fear of being killed", people who don't know how things are, will lap it up.
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Go and read Australian Asylum tribunal cases

"The police are mostly Malay and wouldn't protect me"
"Our family business was attacked by Malay gangsters and the police who are mostly Malay wouldn't protect us"
"My family business was too successful so the government took it away and gave it to the Malays"
"The tried to force me to convert to Islam and if I didn't, they would burn down my house"

As I said, the Afrikans of South Africa have problems, but they are not at the level where they meet the threshold for asylum.

But if someone in Australia stands up and say that the Malaysian Chinese face racist attacks and "fear of being killed", people who don't know how things are, will lap it up.
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that that's a unique case that qualifies for refugee

"not at the level where they meet the threshold for asylum", I guess being dead still doesn't qualify for asylum to you. One youtuber has his female friend went back to south africa for a short while and literally murdered. Nah she's just have problems and being dead isn't an issue for you. You are such an asshole denier.

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QUOTE(terradrive @ May 24 2025, 12:56 PM)
that that's a unique case that qualifies for refugee

"not at the level where they meet the threshold for asylum", I guess being dead still doesn't qualify for asylum to you. One youtuber has his female friend went back to south africa for a short while and literally murdered. Nah she's just have problems and being dead isn't an issue for you. You are such an asshole denier.
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Believe it or not, those cases don't qualify for refugee status

"The police are mostly Malay and wouldn't protect me" is not grounds for asylum

"Our family business was attacked by Malay gangsters and the police who are mostly Malay wouldn't protect us" is not grounds for asylum

Even "The tried to force me to convert to Islam and if I didn't, they would burn down my house" is is not grounds for asylum

As I said, go and read some real Asylum cases
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Believe it or not, those cases don't qualify for refugee status

"The police are mostly Malay and wouldn't protect me" is not grounds for asylum

"Our family business was attacked by Malay gangsters and the police who are mostly Malay wouldn't protect us" is not grounds for asylum

Even "The tried to force me to convert to Islam and if I didn't, they would burn down my house"  is is not grounds for asylum

As I said, go and read some real Asylum cases
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and that's australia and I didn't know trump was australian prime minister

but not recognizating south african as refugees is more important than allowing illegal inmigrants to come in freely in usa which you know, trump is the president there.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ May 24 2025, 01:03 PM)
and that's australia and I didn't know trump was australian prime minister

but not recognizating south african as refugees is more important than allowing illegal inmigrants to come in freely in usa which you know, trump is the president there.
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How to "recognise (white) south african as refugees" when they don't meet the threshold?

The fact that 1, 2, 10, 100, 1000, of them are killed, as tragic as it is, is not grounds for asylum.

Else the non's can pull out plenty of news reports of non's being killed in Malaysia and claim asylum (in the US)
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How to "recognise (white) south african as refugees" when they don't meet the threshold?

The fact that 1, 2, 10, 100, 1000, of them are killed, as tragic as it is, is not grounds for asylum.

Else the non's can pull out plenty of news reports of non's being killed in Malaysia and claim asylum (in the US)
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alvin tan had to gone through so much to be the citizen of usa, they do have to go through the process

but you are treating the conditions of nons in malaysian as comparable to south africa which is totally so far of the truth. People can claim stuffs when they try to apply for refugee, but what we had been seeing in south africa for decades is what happening there in some parts of south africa which has REAL targeted racial killings, not some people applying for refugees and their cases.

I don't see Malaysian chinese has heavy walled houses with armed private security around here? Or any recent racist based bullying on the news? Or literal politicians in malaysia singing the songs about killing certain group of people?

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QUOTE(haya @ May 24 2025, 01:01 PM)
Believe it or not, those cases don't qualify for refugee status

"The police are mostly Malay and wouldn't protect me" is not grounds for asylum

"Our family business was attacked by Malay gangsters and the police who are mostly Malay wouldn't protect us" is not grounds for asylum

Even "The tried to force me to convert to Islam and if I didn't, they would burn down my house"  is is not grounds for asylum

As I said, go and read some real Asylum cases
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I think that actually qualifies as refugee status. The problem is that they can’t provide credible evidence.
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alvin tan had to gone through so much to be the citizen of usa, they do have to go through the process

but you are treating the conditions of nons in malaysian as comparable to south africa which is totally so far of the truth. People can claim stuffs when they try to apply for refugee, but what we had been seeing in south africa for decades is what happening there in some parts of south africa which has REAL targeted racial killings, not some people applying for refugees and their cases.

I don't see Malaysian chinese has heavy walled houses with armed private security around here? Or any recent racist based bullying on the news? Or literal politicians in malaysia singing the songs about killing certain group of people?
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South Africa has a crime problem

Its not just the Afrikans with "heavy walled houses with armed private security"

The rich black South African's (yes they exist) also live in neighbourhoods with "heavy walled houses with armed private security" and armed escort

As I said, South Africa has a crime problem, the Afrikans have their problems in South Africa, but they are not to the level where they need to be rescued as refugees.

As I said, Afrikan's have always been able to apply for asylum in the US. Some do. But mostly they don't. Because they know they don't meet the threshold.

But they're quite happy to let people who don't know the situation take up their cudgels.

As I said, if someone who knows nothing about Malaysia except on what they read of asylum claims, they would also believe that Malaysia is a hell-hole for ethnic Chinese.

Same thing here: people who don't know about South Africa except what a very rich man tells them, they would also believe that South Africa is a hell-hole for Afrikans.

I'm not denying that the Afrikans in South Africa face problems, in the same way I'm not denying that the non's in Malaysia face problems.

But those who know, will know that the truth is a lot more nuanced than qualifying for asylum



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Or any recent racist based bullying on the news? Or literal politicians in malaysia singing the songs about killing certain group of people?
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Really? The reminders of May 13, when people literally died, everytime someone wants to make a point, in Malaysia, don't count?

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/7821...osted-on-tiktok
https://theedgemalaysia.com/article/hadi%E2...%E2%80%94-anwar
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/film-1969-malaysi...-040642010.html
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I think that actually qualifies as refugee status. The problem is that they can’t provide credible evidence.
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And this is why serf's can't be (asylum court) judges

The public's understanding of what asylum law is vs what is actually is, is too far apart IMO

Asylum isn't just "Oh I'm being treated badly and therefore I want asylum"

Funny also how Alvin Tan mentioned that during the Biden administration it was harder to get asylum

As I said, contrary to popular belief. Perception and reality can be very far apart.

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South Africa has a crime problem

Its not just the Afrikans with "heavy walled houses with armed private security"

The rich black South African's (yes they exist) also live in neighbourhoods with "heavy walled houses with armed private security" and armed escort

As I said, South Africa has a crime problem, the Afrikans have their problems in South Africa, but they are not to the level where they need to be rescued as refugees.

As I said, Afrikan's have always been able to apply for asylum in the US. Some do. But mostly they don't. Because they know they don't meet the threshold.

But they're quite happy to let people who don't know the situation take up their cudgels.

As I said, if someone who knows nothing about Malaysia except on what they read of asylum claims, they would also believe that Malaysia is a hell-hole for ethnic Chinese.

Same thing here: people who don't know about South Africa except what a very rich man tells them, they would also believe that South Africa is a hell-hole for Afrikans.

I'm not denying that the Afrikans in South Africa face problems, in the same way I'm not denying that the non's in Malaysia face problems.

But those who know, will know that the truth is a lot more nuanced than qualifying for asylum
Really? The reminders of May 13, when people literally died, everytime someone wants to make a point, in Malaysia, don't count?

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/7821...osted-on-tiktok
https://theedgemalaysia.com/article/hadi%E2...%E2%80%94-anwar
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/film-1969-malaysi...-040642010.html
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first things first, are we still live in may 13th time period right now /facepalm

Of course south africa has serious crime problems, the problem is the south african politicians has diverted the crime into a single racial group aka the whites as the scapegoat for diverting the attention of the public on their massive corruption that leads to the failing state.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ May 24 2025, 01:36 PM)
first things first, are we still live in may 13th time period right now /facepalm

Of course south africa has serious crime problems, the problem is the south african politicians has diverted the crime into a single racial group aka the whites as the scapegoat for diverting the attention of the public on their massive corruption that leads to the failing state.
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That's still not the threshold for asylum

No different to Malaysian politicians blaming the non's for their problems
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And this is why serf's can't be (asylum court) judges

The public's understanding of what asylum law is vs what is actually is, is too far apart IMO
asylum tribunal is done in case by case basis

and judges have qualifications aka understand the law and have experiences on the judicial process.

saying serfs can't be judges is just plain facepalm captain obvious comment.
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That's still not the threshold for asylum

No different to Malaysian politicians blaming the non's for their problems
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malaysian politicians don't go around in political rallies inciting violence against the nons /facepalm

that would cause them to be investigated by the police and charged

something that doesn't happen in south africa

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QUOTE(terradrive @ May 24 2025, 01:41 PM)
asylum tribunal is done in case by case basis

and judges have qualifications aka understand the law and have experiences on the judicial process.

saying serfs can't be judges is just plain facepalm captain obvious comment.
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But but but it is obvious that it qualifies for asylum wor!
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But but but it is obvious that it qualifies for asylum wor!
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tell that to biden which you said has very strict asylum process for alvin but let millions in every year just by walking in without any process

qualifies for asylum right?

trump just doing two birds with one stone, denying money for south africa but the biggest reason is exposing hypocrite democrats. If democrats has accepted the south africans, trump probably wouldn't attack the south african politicians on live tv

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QUOTE(haya @ May 24 2025, 01:33 PM)
And this is why serf's can't be (asylum court) judges

The public's understanding of what asylum law is vs what is actually is, is too far apart IMO

Asylum isn't just "Oh I'm being treated badly and therefore I want asylum"

Funny also how Alvin Tan mentioned that during the Biden administration it was harder to get asylum

As I said, contrary to popular belief. Perception and reality can be very far apart.
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I think most do understand what’s asylum. Otherwise they won’t all go tell the same story to immigration officer ( this is why those officers are skeptical cause they have heard it all before) when they seek asylum. The hard part is showing proof.

Alvin had a good case as he had plenty of evidence. He didn’t just say he was imprisoned. Multiple media covered it.
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That's still not the threshold for asylum

No different to Malaysian politicians blaming the non's for their problems
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Merely been a victim of high crime isn’t sufficient for asylum. But when you have a leader in the minority govt which is a large party and growing in popularity openly calling for Genocidal actions against a certain ethnic group it does add a point to said asylum seekers case.
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tell that to biden which you said has very strict asylum process for alvin but let millions in every year just by walking in without any process

qualifies for asylum right?
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As I said, perception vs reality.

There is a perception that the Democrats "let millions in every year just by walking in without any process"

And yet the data shows that there were more deportations under Obama and Biden's term than during Trump's first term
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QUOTE(terradrive @ May 24 2025, 12:28 PM)
his credibility can go to zero but the white killins are still happening

the problem is that this kind of rhetoric is dishonest diversion for some particular ideology, look at the american msm articles before the congo photo issue.
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It is a false story to discredit South Africa because South Africa is actively pursuing Israel war crimes and helping Palestinian by recording all genocide proof admissible in the court.

The total of white farmers died on South Africa is 1% for the last 40 years on average of total death in South Africa, means blacks and others race death is above 98% on the average for the last 40 years.

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Among the claims contradicted by the evidence:

1. There is a genocide of white farmers in South Africa.

This conspiracy theory has been propagated by some fringe groups of white South Africans since the end of apartheid in 1994. It has been circulating in global far-right chat rooms for at least a decade, with the vocal support of Trump's ally, South African-born Elon Musk.

Supporters of the theory point to murders of white farmers in remote rural parts of the country as proof of a politically orchestrated campaign of ethnic cleansing, rather than ordinary violent crime.

They accuse the government of being complicit in the farm murders, either by encouraging them or at least turning a blind eye. The government strongly denies this.

South Africa has one of the world's highest murder rates, with an average of 72 a day, in a country of 60 million people. Most victims are Black.

South African police recorded 26,232 murders nationwide in 2024, of which 44 were linked to farming communities. Of those, eight of the victims were farmers.

Data collected by white farmers themselves also does not support the notion of a genocide. Afrikaner farmers' union TLU-SA has counted 1,363 white farmers murdered since 1990, or an average of 40 a year - far less than 1% of total murders.

The high court in Western Cape province ruled that claims of white genocide were "clearly imagined and not real" in a case earlier this year, forbidding a donation to a white supremacist group on those grounds.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-make...ing-2025-05-21/

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Go and read Australian Asylum tribunal cases

"The police are mostly Malay and wouldn't protect me"
"Our family business was attacked by Malay gangsters and the police who are mostly Malay wouldn't protect us"
"My family business was too successful so the government took it away and gave it to the Malays"
"The tried to force me to convert to Islam and if I didn't, they would burn down my house"

As I said, the Afrikans of South Africa have problems, but they are not at the level where they meet the threshold for asylum.

But if someone in Australia stands up and say that the Malaysian Chinese face racist attacks and "fear of being killed", people who don't know how things are, will lap it up.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 24 2025, 01:52 PM)
It is a false story to discredit South Africa because South Africa is actively pursuing Israel war crimes and helping Palestinian by recording all genocide proof admissible in the court.

The total of white farmers died on South Africa is 1% for the last 40 years on average of total death in South Africa, means blacks and others race death is above 98% on the average for the last 40 years.

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Last 40 years. Noticed that? The question is are things getting worse? They are many stories that SA is going down the toilet. It’s perfectly plausible that killing of whites are getting worse in recent times.
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QUOTE(haya @ May 24 2025, 01:51 PM)
As I said, perception vs reality.

There is a perception that the Democrats "let millions in every year just by walking in without any process"

And yet the data shows that there were more deportations under Obama and Biden's term than during Trump's first term
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obama? sure of course, he's called deporter in chief

Why are you bringing biden's numbers here when majority of it is title 42 expulsions at the border for covid policies. The numbers that matter is the border crossings which do have data AND it has serious recorded effects on various cities across usa.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ May 24 2025, 01:41 PM)
malaysian politicians don't go around in political rallies inciting violence against the nons /facepalm

that would cause them to be investigated by the police and charged

something that doesn't happen in south africa
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Seriously, you can say that with a straight face?

So when was PAS'es Zul Huzaimy charged when he wanted to “slaughter infidels” ?

PAS is a upcoming party, where it's leader Abdul Hadi Awang has called for violence against certain ethnic groups, invoking God’s power in punishing certain ethnic groups by eliminating them: police investigation and charge mana?

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...te-speech/40286


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Last 40 years. Noticed that? The question is are things getting worse? They are many stories that SA is going down the toilet. It’s perfectly plausible that killing of whites are getting worse in recent times.
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not just killings, but farmlands kena rampas without compensation. Ok lagi tu, then no proper handover and training for the farm to be run and remain useful. People getting poorer and desperate people do crimes.

I remember decades ago I saw south africa has the same gdp percapita with malaysia, then after a decade their gdp per capita became half of malaysia, now it's close to a third of malaysia
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 24 2025, 02:05 PM)
Last 40 years. Noticed that? The question is are things getting worse? They are many stories that SA is going down the toilet. It’s perfectly plausible that killing of whites are getting worse in recent times.
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If you read the quote or the link I provided, you can find it yourself instead of me spoonfeeding you.

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Among the claims contradicted by the evidence:

1. There is a genocide of white farmers in South Africa.

This conspiracy theory has been propagated by some fringe groups of white South Africans since the end of apartheid in 1994. It has been circulating in global far-right chat rooms for at least a decade, with the vocal support of Trump's ally, South African-born Elon Musk.

South African police recorded 26,232 murders nationwide in 2024, of which 44 were linked to farming communities. Of those, eight of the victims were farmers.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-make...ing-2025-05-21/
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Seriously, you can say that with a straight face?

So when was PAS'es Zul Huzaimy charged when he wanted to “slaughter infidels” ?

PAS is a upcoming party, where it's leader Abdul Hadi Awang has called for violence against certain ethnic groups, invoking God’s power in punishing certain ethnic groups by eliminating them: police investigation and charge mana?

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...te-speech/40286
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i agree he should be arrested and charged, and also there's a reason nons like me absolutely hate pas, so your point is?
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QUOTE(terradrive @ May 24 2025, 02:13 PM)
not just killings, but farmlands kena rampas without compensation. Ok lagi tu, then no proper handover and training for the farm to be run and remain useful. People getting poorer and desperate people do crimes.

I remember decades ago I saw south africa has the same gdp percapita with malaysia, then after a decade their gdp per capita became half of malaysia, now it's close to a third of malaysia
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Only on rare cases, means it hardly happen, they only do it to farmers who has deep connections to previous apartheid government.

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That hasn't worked. Some three-quarters of privately-owned farmland is still in the hands of whites, who make up less than 8% of the population, while 4% is owned by Black South Africans who make up 80%.

In an effort to address this, Ramaphosa signed a law in January allowing the state to expropriate land "in the public interest," in rare cases without compensating the owner. The law requires authorities to first try to reach an agreement. It still hasn't been used.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-make...ing-2025-05-21/

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i agree he should be arrested and charged, and also there's a reason nons like me absolutely hate pas, so your point is?
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You take one speech from one politician in South Africa, and extrapolate to to the problems Afrikans face

On your own metric can take two (double mah) speeches from PAS, and the non's now have a right to asylum in the US
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You take one speech from one politician in South Africa, and extrapolate to to the problems Afrikans face

On your own metric can take two (double mah) speeches from PAS, and the non's now have a right to asylum in the US
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it's not just one politician, many are kapsit with him

Why are you talking about malaysian nons asylum again and again? I don't see random serious attacks on rich nons here.

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it's not just one politician, many are kapsit with him
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"Its not 2 politicians from PAS, Malay's feel the same against the non's"

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"Its not 2 politicians from PAS, Malay's feel the same against the non's"

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so magically you know how every malay is feeling, ok

i'm sorry bud but your statement is pretty dangerous there, good luck on you.

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so magically you know how every malay is feeling, ok

i'm sorry bud but your statement is pretty dangerous there, good luck on you.
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And you know how South African politicians stance of the Afrikan's community. Right.
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so magically you know how every malay is feeling, ok

i'm sorry bud but your statement is pretty dangerous there, good luck on you.
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And you know how South African politicians stance of the Afrikan's community. Right.
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You both should go out more, talk with all kind of people, don't just stick with your own race only.

Kene brainwashed until paranoid, kesienz.
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You both should go out more, talk with all kind of people, don't just stick with your own race only.

Kene brainwashed until paranoid, kesienz.
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say u receive money from a victim, for selling a stuff to scammer. because of that u flagged as mule by police and subsequently all ur account closed. u no longer can open any bank account. so far no charges pressed against u, just that u can’t have bank account anymore. then u have difficulty get employment, coz no bank account. is it good ground for seeking asylum?
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Don’t beg for aid when become Zimbabwe 2.0 lulz.
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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ May 25 2025, 03:00 PM)
say u receive money from a victim, for selling a stuff to scammer. because of that u flagged as mule by police and subsequently all ur account closed. u no longer can open any bank account. so far no charges pressed against u, just that u can’t have bank account anymore. then u have difficulty get employment, coz no bank account. is it good ground for seeking asylum?
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No.

The basic definition of a refugee is someone who has "well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion"

Not being able to open a bank account or find work in itself doesn't even meet the basic criteria, much less the other criteria under the 1951 Refugee Convention, and not to mention any additional requirements under refugee law in each country.

As I said, the perception that people have about asylum, and the reality, are very far apart.

 

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