South Africa prez kena zelenskied by Trump, ambush ramaphosa about white farmers
South Africa prez kena zelenskied by Trump, ambush ramaphosa about white farmers
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May 23 2025, 12:25 PM
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May 23 2025, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 23 2025, 12:25 PM) I think civil war and breakup of SA is likely if things dont changehttps://x.com/Lebo_PulumoM/status/1925278679585706067 |
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May 23 2025, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 23 2025, 12:40 PM) I think civil war and breakup of SA is likely if things dont change Funded by who? https://x.com/Lebo_PulumoM/status/1925278679585706067 |
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May 23 2025, 01:08 PM
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best president South Africans praise Ramaphosa for keeping cool amid Trump attack https://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2025/...id-trump-attack countingcrows liked this post
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May 23 2025, 01:51 PM
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Trump's image of dead 'white farmers' came from Reuters footage in Congo, not South Africa
World Friday, 23 May 2025 3:58 AM MYT ![]() FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump shows a copy of an article that he said its about white South Africans who had been killed, in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., May 21, 2025. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque/File Photo JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump showed a screenshot of Reuters video taken in the Democratic Republic of Congo as part of what he falsely presented on Wednesday as evidence of mass killings of white South Africans. "These are all white farmers that are being buried," said Trump, holding up a print-out of an article accompanied by the picture during a contentious Oval Office meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa. In fact, the video, published by Reuters on February 3 and subsequently verified by the news agency's fact check team, showed humanitarian workers lifting body bags in the Congolese city of Goma. The image was pulled from Reuters footage shot following deadly battles with Rwanda-backed M23 rebels. The blog post showed to Ramaphosa by Trump during the White House meeting was published by American Thinker, a conservative online magazine, about conflict and racial tensions in South Africa and Congo. The post did not caption the image but identified it as a "YouTube screen grab" with a link to a video news report about Congo on YouTube, which credited Reuters. The White House did not respond to a request for comment. Andrea Widburg, managing editor at American Thinker and the author of the post in question, wrote in reply to a Reuters query that Trump had "misidentified the image." She added, however, that the post, which referred to what it called Ramaphosa's "dysfunctional, race-obsessed Marxist government", had "pointed out the increasing pressure placed on white South Africans." The footage from which the picture was taken shows a mass burial following an M23 assault on Goma, filmed by Reuters video journalist Djaffar Al Katanty. "That day, it was extremely difficult for journalists to get in ... I had to negotiate directly with M23 and coordinate with the ICRC to be allowed to film," Al Katanty said. "Only Reuters has video." Al Katanty said seeing Trump holding the article with the screengrab of his video came as a shock. "In view of all the world, President Trump used my image, used what I filmed in DRC to try to convince President Ramaphosa that in his country, white people are being killed by Black people," Al Katanty said. Ramaphosa visited Washington this week to try to mend ties with the United States after persistent criticism from Trump in recent months over South Africa's land laws, foreign policy, and alleged bad treatment of its white minority, which South Africa denies. Trump interrupted the televised meeting with Ramaphosa to play a video, which he said showed evidence of genocide of white farmers in South Africa. This conspiracy theory, which has circulated in far-right chat rooms for years, is based on false claims. Trump then proceeded to flip through printed copies of articles that he said detailed murders of white South Africans, saying "death, death, death, horrible death". Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2025/...ot-south-africa |
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May 23 2025, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(haya @ May 23 2025, 01:51 PM) ...Trump showed a screenshot of Reuters video taken in the Democratic Republic of Congo as part of what he falsely presented on Wednesday as evidence of mass killings of white South Africans... Which Dem intern did dat? 🤣 |
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May 23 2025, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 22 2025, 02:49 PM) Africa is a really beautiful continent. You just need to live behind electric fences, have private army and bullet proof cars. Like this ccp biz woman in Angola You use locals? Nono we don't use localWe prioritise security, we use local (our own people china people) Kek la |
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May 23 2025, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 22 2025, 01:39 PM) So that the whole world see that video of Malema chanting, "Kill the Boer," la. In case you didn't notice, the news cameraman didn't point the camera at the TV, but still can hear the chants. This is not some cult in the middle of nowhere, this is a party in South Africa's National Assembly. isn’t malema is opposition? not the ruling party anc |
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May 23 2025, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ May 23 2025, 05:02 PM) So?Do you feel it's ok when PuAS keep threatening repeat of M-13? Do you deny South Africa is a very violent place? How to attract FDI from angmoh when your country is hyper violent and the 4th largest political party in your country is chanting "Kill the Boer"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjBu6VZWE7k This post has been edited by JohnL77: May 23 2025, 05:07 PM Slowpokeking liked this post
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May 23 2025, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 23 2025, 05:06 PM) "Kill the Boer"? Boer means what?The other day got thread, Kambing Boer Hidup for sale in Shopee...same Boer? 😁 ![]() |
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May 23 2025, 05:11 PM
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May 23 2025, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 23 2025, 05:06 PM) I see a lot of parallels between SA gov reps in that meeting with trump and ours with XJP.ramaposha = BMX black ministers sitting there without saying a word = Umno sellouts like Akmal malema/EFF scolding all of the blacks for been sellouts and good doggies to Boers/DAPigs = PuAs white agri minister = anthony lok lok baas ruther / bass els etc = Type C biz tycoons like vincent tan etc now just need to figure out who is a parallel for carl niehaus...someone who's a Boer who marches together with people chanting "shoot the boers" ![]() This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: May 23 2025, 05:22 PM |
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May 23 2025, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ May 23 2025, 05:11 PM) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXn3R-0UBG40:32 "Must never be scared to kill. A revolution demands that at some point, there must be killing." 0:44 "Shoot to kill. Kill the Boer, the farmer." 1:23 "Go after a white man." 1:43 "You are cutting the throat of whiteness." 1:46 "Shoot to kill. Kill the Boer, the farmer." 2:22 "We have not called for the killing of white people. At least for now. I can't guarantee the future." 3:17 "We will expropriate land without compensation whether they like it or not. If they object, they can seek refuge in America." If you don't want to watch that means you choose to be ignorant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubul'_ib...Legal_decisions QUOTE 2003 Human Rights Commission ruling Following a complaint from the Freedom Front the South African Human Rights Commission (SAHRC) ruled that the song amounted to hate speech in the context of a post-apartheid South Africa that was seeking reconciliation.[54] 2010 North Gauteng High Court decision In April 2010 the North Gauteng High Court[55] interdicted and restrained Julius Malema from publicly uttering the words of the song pending a decision by the Equality Court where a complaint regarding the song had already been laid.[55] 2011 Equality Court decision In September 2011, the Equality Court at the South Gauteng High Court ruled that the song was discriminatory, harmful, undermined the dignity of Afrikaners, and thereby constituted hate speech;[40] and that it "prima facie satisfies the crime of incitement to murder".[56] The court ruled that Julius Malema, who was brought before the court for previously singing the song at rallies, was forbidden from singing it in the future.[40] Following the ruling Malema changed the wording of the song to "Kiss the Boer" and sang that instead[57]—however, it can be argued to still have the same psychological influence as the original, due to the well-known context for the altered lyrics. The following year, the ANC stated that they would not sing the song any more.[57] 2019 Human Rights Commission ruling The SAHRC acquitted Malema on five accounts of hate speech towards White and Indian South Africans, one of the charges being for the singing of an altered "Kiss the boer" version of "Dubul' ibhunu".[58] The SAHRC found that although Malema's comments were "still quite problematic to us in a democratic society that is committed to healing the divisions"[58] the charges brought against him were an attempt at suppressing "legitimate criticism and debate".[58] In July 2023 the Johannesburg High Court set aside the 2019 SAHRC finding, ruling that the SAHRC had acted outside its mandate in its finding on hateful speech.[59] 2022 Johannesburg High Court decision Malema, now leader of the EFF, again appeared in court in 2022 for allegedly singing the song in a case brought by Afriforum where the issue of whether or not the song was hate speech was debated.[60] The Johannesburg High Court ruled that the chant and song were not intended to be taken seriously; that Afriforum had failed to establish a causal link between the song and violence;[61][62] that the reference to Boer did not literally refer to White or Afrikaans people; that the song did not incite hatred towards White people generally; and ruled the song was not hate speech.[62][63][64] Afriforum appealed the decision and in 2024 the Supreme Court of Appeal confirmed the High Court's verdict that the song, as sung during the Senekal incidents, was not hate speech South African president signs controversial land seizure law QUOTE South African President Cyril Ramaphosa has signed into law a bill allowing land seizures by the state without compensation - a move that has put him at odds with some members of his government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reform_i...food_production QUOTE Effects on food production In April 2012, Reuters quoted Theo de Jager, vice president of AgriSA, as saying, "I visited more than 200 farms that have been transferred over the last two and half years and I haven't been on one that is a commercial success. None of those farmers are making a profit. And if it is not profitable, it's not sustainable."[3] In May 2025, Associated Press wrote, "Animal welfare officers faced the grisly task of euthanizing more than 350,000 chickens by hand after they were left starving and cannibalizing each other when a South African state-owned poultry company ran out of money to feed them, officials said Tuesday." This post has been edited by JohnL77: May 23 2025, 05:31 PM countingcrows liked this post
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 23 2025, 05:43 PM) Kek wut?QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 23 2025, 06:04 PM) oh another intriguing whatif ....in years to come can local type c be given refugee status in motherland like trump give to boers? Yini saya sudah lama tanya Wolf Warriors. |
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