Any good camping spot near kl ? Don’t mind driving far
Not glamping mind you better
With good nice night views and sunset sunrise
I got all the supplies and equipment ready to camp
Any good camping spot, Campers come in
Any good camping spot, Campers come in
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Any good camping spot near kl ? Don’t mind driving far
Not glamping mind you better With good nice night views and sunset sunrise I got all the supplies and equipment ready to camp |
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May 19 2025, 08:58 AM
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Cherating ngam not ?
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Apple store trx. oh waiii
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How much it cost to buy all the camping equipment? If you go for quality American products, they can be costly.
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Fraser hill
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On the way to Fraser Hill, Kuala Kubu Bharu area. Got nearby town also if emergency.
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Bukit tunku
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 20 2025, 06:18 AM) How much it cost to buy all the camping equipment? If you go for quality American products, they can be costly. i got a rocket stove a portal gas stove fishing rod a 4 men tent some insect spray 2 foldable chair 1 foldable table a skillet / pan / boiler an ice box all under rm300 lj0000 liked this post
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ May 20 2025, 08:18 AM) ini thread machiem tak hidup dy |
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Normally I camping at Bagan Lalang. Now looking for more options.
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Serendah Campsite - Kampungku Retreat not bad , thr is river beside it
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QUOTE(Chosen one @ May 20 2025, 05:00 AM) Pretty nice actually.Place is well maintained. Ade toilet bole mandi berak. Nice quiet beach, away from traffic. 5 minute to makan place. 5 minute to turtle sanctuary. IF u r ok with dogs ya. |
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Good camping spot must have two big mountains view
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 20 2025, 05:18 AM) How much it cost to buy all the camping equipment? If you go for quality American products, they can be costly. actually its not about quality, its about how much these outdoor corpos are extorting outdoor enthusiasts under the guise of "outdoor quality" or "you need this to be better in outdoor camping"like for example i can go decathlon buy a decent lightweight foldable chair for less than RM100. those big brands priced these same foldable chairs at like RM500 defak dont even get me started on stuff like titanium cookwares, just use cheaper aluminum and reap same benefits dammit |
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If you want something different, not slop campsite pacak atas gravel/sandbox like tandas kucing:
1. Orang orang art camp, Sungai Besar (sawah) 2. Azam Orange, Cameron (orange farm, i think not fruit season rn but still good) 3. Happy harvest campz, Batu arang (hill farm, can get hot best during rainy season) 4. Sg seladang, Tg Malim (forest river, bike/4x4 only) 5. Forest8senses, Tg Malim (semi slop but ok) |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 20 2025, 12:14 PM) actually its not about quality, its about how much these outdoor corpos are extorting outdoor enthusiasts under the guise of "outdoor quality" or "you need this to be better in outdoor camping" Its really you got what you pay most of time. People think they got a bargain with decathlon - thats because they rarely got chance to use legit stuff from MSR, Montbell, helinox and the likes. They never had chance to see the latest breakthrough in material engineering in action where they could actually pay for it rn.like for example i can go decathlon buy a decent lightweight foldable chair for less than RM100. those big brands priced these same foldable chairs at like RM500 defak dont even get me started on stuff like titanium cookwares, just use cheaper aluminum and reap same benefits dammit Malaysian market is flooded with prc slop, to most of us vidalido and blackdog and to some extent coleman are some sort of hot stuff lmao. When you compare these cringe with decathlon ofc decathlon sounds like a steal. This post has been edited by failed.hashcheck: May 20 2025, 02:00 PM |
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our home is the best camping spot
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if you are not planning to camp in extreme weather, then the cheap stuff from decathlon is actually pretty decent. of course you could still get better quality items so that they last longer/more comfortable/bigger but some stuff are really just expensive because of the brand. malaysia weather dont need the expensive 4 season tents. Any normal tent would do fine imo. Vidalido or kzm or coleman all more or less the same unless you're looking to flex on the campgrounds. countingcrows and kidmad liked this post
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 01:59 PM) Its really you got what you pay most of time. People think they got a bargain with decathlon - thats because they rarely got chance to use legit stuff from MSR, Montbell, helinox and the likes. They never had chance to see the latest breakthrough in material engineering in action where they could actually pay for it rn. Branded one very expensive...unaffordable for us la. And mostly warmer clothing and untra light gears. In tropical countries really not worth to spend this money, not practical. Some more for car camping is really overkill.Malaysian market is flooded with prc slop, to most of us vidalido and blackdog and to some extent coleman are some sort of hot stuff lmao. When you compare these cringe with decathlon ofc decathlon sounds like a steal. Imo, china made outdoor equipment is really worth it, I buy most of my gears from AliExpress. And if you check most of the beaded gears also made in china or Vietnam. |
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mount kinabalu, best sunset/sunrise, if u are allow to camp there
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QUOTE(azack @ May 20 2025, 02:13 PM) Branded one very expensive...unaffordable for us la. And mostly warmer clothing and untra light gears. In tropical countries really not worth to spend this money, not practical. Some more for car camping is really overkill. I mean don't buy everything in catalogue just to show of. Only buy one that matter to you and make it meaningful. Imo, china made outdoor equipment is really worth it, I buy most of my gears from AliExpress. And if you check most of the beaded gears also made in china or Vietnam. For car camping in curated campsite it doesn't really matter Any china stuff or whatever household item you can bring is good. Heck, I once go car camping with only Kemah unta and everything else grab from kitchen. My original context is if its really worth it to pay extra for expensive brand: yea and this will apply when you starting to go beyond - hiking, cold weather, pacak in bush etc. My style is ride, and I always do highland camps. Low temp needs bulking, but bike has limits for what it can safely carry. So I spent 2.5k for a down sleeping bag. Sounds absurd for car campers but its a best thing money could buy for my use case. Same with tent. Paid 2.5k for 2p tent, but I got 900g one with all the bell and whistles. Similar rm150 tent from decathlon? weigh 2.6kg with material from 80s. Can you imagine? tent without ripstop in 2025? yea, you got what you paid for. Holds true for the reverse. For me buying all those fancy chairs are nonsense because I have one ul to rule them all Where its made doesnt matter. What matter is its engineering design and material. Those prc slop factories would always eventually copy the design, but not material. This post has been edited by failed.hashcheck: May 20 2025, 02:54 PM silverhawk, Chosen one, and 1 other liked this post
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ayam dulu camp use tent
now camping tidur in car saja malas mau pack repack pack this weekend ayam go camp at Camperz hideout bukit tinggi lagi This post has been edited by akecema: May 20 2025, 02:45 PM |
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 01:49 PM) If you want something different, not slop campsite pacak atas gravel/sandbox like tandas kucing: any recommendation for suitable car camping + plugpoint availability. 1. Orang orang art camp, Sungai Besar (sawah) 2. Azam Orange, Cameron (orange farm, i think not fruit season rn but still good) 3. Happy harvest campz, Batu arang (hill farm, can get hot best during rainy season) 4. Sg seladang, Tg Malim (forest river, bike/4x4 only) 5. Forest8senses, Tg Malim (semi slop but ok) |
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 02:42 PM) I mean don't buy everything in catalogue just to show of. Only buy one that matter and make it meaningful. One good example is water filter. CCP cannot copy this one becos it is really about quality and trustworthiness. And then certified by whom? How many microns? For car camping in curated campsite it doesn't really matter Any china stuff or whatever household item you can bring is good. My original context is if its really worth it to pay extra for expensive brand: yea and this will apply when you starting to go beyond - hiking, cold weather, pacak in bush etc. My style is ride, and I always do highland camps. Low temp needs bulking, but bike has limits for what it can safely carry. So I spent 2.5k for a down sleeping bag. Sounds absurd for car campers but its a best thing money could buy for my use case. Same with tent. Paid 2.5k for 2p tent, but I got 900g one with all the bell and whistles. Similar rm150 tent from decathlon? weigh 2.6kg with material from 80s. Can you imagine? tent without ripstop in 2025? yea, you got what you paid for. Holds true for the reverse. For me buying all those fancy chairs are nonsense because I have one ul to rule them all Where its made doesnt matter. What matter is its engineering design and material. Those prc slop factories would always eventually copy the design, but not material. |
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ May 20 2025, 02:55 PM) Cant recommend much for this because honestly with few exceptions, I actively avoids campsites that have power plugs 1. Happy Harvest 2. Sg pauh Cameron (good luck getting weekend slot) 3. Semungkis Dataran Camp 5. Forest8senses (iinm power plug is separate addon) |
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bagan lalang lot of people camping there
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 20 2025, 12:14 PM) actually its not about quality, its about how much these outdoor corpos are extorting outdoor enthusiasts under the guise of "outdoor quality" or "you need this to be better in outdoor camping" All about weight, if you go for car camping of course weight is not an issue, imagine if your desire campsite were in deep of nowhere which need to trek for long hour. Light weight gear always expensive.like for example i can go decathlon buy a decent lightweight foldable chair for less than RM100. those big brands priced these same foldable chairs at like RM500 defak dont even get me started on stuff like titanium cookwares, just use cheaper aluminum and reap same benefits dammit |
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 20 2025, 03:08 PM) if you camp in car sure need fly screenin warm area, you need extra fan but if cold like frasers, cameron, genting, etc, then no need fan. those small small fan cannot cool you down if warm night, so you might need few is you use the small fans. Set one fan to blow air out so fresh air gets drawn in |
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 03:06 PM) Cant recommend much for this because honestly with few exceptions, I actively avoids campsites that have power plugs thanks for the list, i keep in KIV first1. Happy Harvest 2. Sg pauh Cameron (good luck getting weekend slot) 3. Semungkis Dataran Camp 5. Forest8senses (iinm power plug is separate addon) so far I tried car camping at Hulu Langat. |
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 02:42 PM) I mean don't buy everything in catalogue just to show of. Only buy one that matter to you and make it meaningful. what sort of temp is your camp? genting type? For car camping in curated campsite it doesn't really matter Any china stuff or whatever household item you can bring is good. Heck, I once go car camping with only Kemah unta and everything else grab from kitchen. My original context is if its really worth it to pay extra for expensive brand: yea and this will apply when you starting to go beyond - hiking, cold weather, pacak in bush etc. My style is ride, and I always do highland camps. Low temp needs bulking, but bike has limits for what it can safely carry. So I spent 2.5k for a down sleeping bag. Sounds absurd for car campers but its a best thing money could buy for my use case. Same with tent. Paid 2.5k for 2p tent, but I got 900g one with all the bell and whistles. Similar rm150 tent from decathlon? weigh 2.6kg with material from 80s. Can you imagine? tent without ripstop in 2025? yea, you got what you paid for. Holds true for the reverse. For me buying all those fancy chairs are nonsense because I have one ul to rule them all Where its made doesnt matter. What matter is its engineering design and material. Those prc slop factories would always eventually copy the design, but not material. temp around 15deg, normal tent, basic 10deg or so sleeping bag with mat + jacket is good enough..... you need a ground mat, can get either cheap yoga mat or air mattress. else you will get body heat loss due to ground sucking all your body heat. unless you are walking or hiking then need to buy expensive sleeping bag as they are a lot smaller for the same temp rating. tent, is also weight, you pay more for the weight. if drive you dont need to pay premium for ultra light tent, just need to wax to ensure water dont go in via the seams. my dome tent got additional layer, even big storm still dry inside, so single layer water will seep in after a few hours of rain and become damp |
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QUOTE(Virlution @ May 20 2025, 03:23 PM) what sort of temp is your camp? genting type? Cameron and genting. Mostly around 14, only once got 10c during coldsnap erlier this year. temp around 15deg, normal tent, basic 10deg or so sleeping bag with mat + jacket is good enough..... you need a ground mat, can get either cheap yoga mat or air mattress. else you will get body heat loss due to ground sucking all your body heat. unless you are walking or hiking then need to buy expensive sleeping bag as they are a lot smaller for the same temp rating. tent, is also weight, you pay more for the weight. if drive you dont need to pay premium for ultra light tent, just need to wax to ensure water dont go in via the seams. my dome tent got additional layer, even big storm still dry inside, so single layer water will seep in after a few hours of rain and become damp Using 125cc bike, i have self impose limit where everything must fit in 55liter box, total not more than 14kg. After many nights, I found my perfect balanced setup with least weight - which is a good sleeping bag+thin silver mat. My bag is only like 5c Tcomfort one, but its the FP900 down is what makes it expensive. However it packs down amazingly compact 0.5kg, 12x24cm. You can't get anywhere near this with synthetic. This post has been edited by failed.hashcheck: May 20 2025, 03:57 PM |
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 01:59 PM) Its really you got what you pay most of time. People think they got a bargain with decathlon - thats because they rarely got chance to use legit stuff from MSR, Montbell, helinox and the likes. They never had chance to see the latest breakthrough in material engineering in action where they could actually pay for it rn. it's always good to have entry level item with this hangat2 tahi ayam hobbyMalaysian market is flooded with prc slop, to most of us vidalido and blackdog and to some extent coleman are some sort of hot stuff lmao. When you compare these cringe with decathlon ofc decathlon sounds like a steal. Nowadays so called "camping" = moving fancy / bulky stuff out from your house, cook maggi, canned food, curry chicken etc Still doing occassional camping (with trekking 1-4 hours into the forest / waterfall) , once every half a year. Never understand the branded stuff thing when my china / local made stuff still usable. my 20 years ago stuff still working fine, -tent rm 60 - 6 pax tent from carrefour if have 6-7 pax -coleman 2 pax tent - for storage -20 years old deuter backpack - mini burner from experiment lab (gift from school) - swiss knife - parang from the orchard - used to have tesco hammock but broken alraedy , used like 6 years - (this one renewed every few years) Kedai logam cina flysheet 1 feet rm 3, one piece on the floor , one piece for shade, usually stuffy inside forest sleep half naked or just use a sleeping bag. - (somewhere 2010) mr DIY shovel This post has been edited by AyamBlend: May 20 2025, 03:52 PM |
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Bikepacking quite interesting, save on petrol too
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ May 20 2025, 03:42 PM) dulu ayam use diy Roof Top Tentnow malas mau pasang cabut 3rd row seat, pasang airbed this ayam DIY RTT ![]() Chosen one liked this post
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ May 20 2025, 03:50 PM) it's always good to have entry level item with this hangat2 tahi ayam hobby It all boils down to weight and volume. You can have a really cheap and durable stuff but most of time you ended look like pindah rumah instead of camping.Nowadays so called "camping" = moving fancy / bulky stuff out from your house, cook maggi, canned food, curry chicken etc Still doing occassional camping (with trekking 1-4 hours into the forest / waterfall) , once every half a year. Never understand the branded stuff thing when my china / local made stuff still usable. my 20 years ago stuff still working fine, -tent rm 60 - 6 pax tent from carrefour if have 6-7 pax -coleman 2 pax tent - for storage -20 years old deuter backpack - mini burner from experiment lab (gift from school) - swiss knife - parang from the orchard - used to have tesco hammock but broken alraedy , used like 6 years - (this one renewed every few years) Kedai logam cina flysheet 1 feet rm 3, one piece on the floor , one piece for shade, usually stuffy inside forest sleep half naked or just use a sleeping bag. - (somewhere 2010) mr DIY shovel This post has been edited by failed.hashcheck: May 20 2025, 04:25 PM |
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 04:24 PM) It all boils down to weight and volume. You can have a really cheap and durable stuff but most of time you ended look like pindah rumah instead of camping. once we went to somewhere near genting4x4 guy came to pick up us, 2 backpack + ikea shopping bag (food + foldable chair/table) The drivers were casually asking "thats it?" Didnt know why, until we reached the campsite, yea ours look like temporary setup at construction site vs others camping with lights / tables / fan / countless tag boxes + luggage bags kidmad liked this post
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 01:59 PM) Its really you got what you pay most of time. People think they got a bargain with decathlon - thats because they rarely got chance to use legit stuff from MSR, Montbell, helinox and the likes. They never had chance to see the latest breakthrough in material engineering in action where they could actually pay for it rn. Malaysian market is flooded with prc slop, to most of us vidalido and blackdog and to some extent coleman are some sort of hot stuff lmao. When you compare these cringe with decathlon ofc decathlon sounds like a steal. QUOTE(azack @ May 20 2025, 02:13 PM) Branded one very expensive...unaffordable for us la. And mostly warmer clothing and untra light gears. In tropical countries really not worth to spend this money, not practical. Some more for car camping is really overkill. yeah i understand, but the issue is the so called "legit" stuff are too damn expensive la in our currency due to direct conversion. they were priced for western markets and western money, not ours. to them buy one gear like jacket will cost USD400 which to them is considered expensive. but in MYR its RM2k for the same jacket. really? 4 digit pricing for a jacket only? (i did bought it tho kek, kept me dry and warm during my hikes, but im sure even a cheaper model will do as good albeit 70% of its capability)Imo, china made outdoor equipment is really worth it, I buy most of my gears from AliExpress. And if you check most of the beaded gears also made in china or Vietnam. same goes for my hiking backpack, my 40L decathlon backpack proved its worth for years ed plus many hike/backpacking trips. only cost <RM300 too. meanwhile western brands like Deuter, Osprey, Gregory, Millet etc all cost like RM1.2k for 40L bags? if youre super into hiking/mountaineering and willing to spend, go ahead la. but its definitely not worth the price/perf ratio IMO plus gear hoarding is real guys... once you start you wouldnt stop kek Naturehike is one of the few chinese brands that are picking up. its good and i would recommend |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 20 2025, 04:43 PM) yeah i understand, but the issue is the so called "legit" stuff are too damn expensive la in our currency due to direct conversion. they were priced for western markets and western money, not ours. to them buy one gear like jacket will cost USD400 which to them is considered expensive. but in MYR its RM2k for the same jacket. really? 4 digit pricing for a jacket only? (i did bought it tho kek, kept me dry and warm during my hikes, but im sure even a cheaper model will do as good albeit 70% of its capability) Legend has it that Naturehike was once MSR's OEM. That explain how if you observe most of their dome tents are all almost 1:1 copy MSR and its quality, down to sewing technique (and all its sealing problem lol). With only compromise in alloy materials to make it cheaper.same goes for my hiking backpack, my 40L decathlon backpack proved its worth for years ed plus many hike/backpacking trips. only cost <RM300 too. meanwhile western brands like Deuter, Osprey, Gregory, Millet etc all cost like RM1.2k for 40L bags? if youre super into hiking/mountaineering and willing to spend, go ahead la. but its definitely not worth the price/perf ratio IMO plus gear hoarding is real guys... once you start you wouldnt stop kek Naturehike is one of the few chinese brands that are picking up. its good and i would recommend marfccy liked this post
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 04:54 PM) Legend has it that Naturehike was once MSR's OEM. That explain how if you observe most of their dome tents are all almost 1:1 copy MSR and its quality, down to sewing technique (and all its sealing problem lol). With only compromise in alloy materials to make it cheaper. thats exactly why too im so reserved in paying so much knowing that it all came from China which should be very affordable range. but instead its marked up for western markets and reused same price for non western markets kekfor example Decathlon and Salomon share same OEM factories too. while Decathlon shoes have a significantly cheaper material and design used, but quality wise theyre legit. |
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Cameron, stellar and the other 2 surrounding campground..
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ May 20 2025, 04:33 PM) once we went to somewhere near genting that's funny hahaha4x4 guy came to pick up us, 2 backpack + ikea shopping bag (food + foldable chair/table) The drivers were casually asking "thats it?" Didnt know why, until we reached the campsite, yea ours look like temporary setup at construction site vs others camping with lights / tables / fan / countless tag boxes + luggage bags |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 20 2025, 05:18 PM) thats exactly why too im so reserved in paying so much knowing that it all came from China which should be very affordable range. but instead its marked up for western markets and reused same price for non western markets kek While there are some truth in brand tax, in context of msr vs naturehike the pricing it's far off actually. The original MSR design uses dac pole which is famously resilient and light but they charged arm and leg for it. Naturehike replaces it with some noticeably heavier alloy. I have old decommissioned hubba hubba with hydrolyzed fabric but its dac pole still holds liek rm1k+ market value lolfor example Decathlon and Salomon share same OEM factories too. while Decathlon shoes have a significantly cheaper material and design used, but quality wise theyre legit. For naturehike only their dome tent got pedigree. Other stuff afaik are still homegrown china stuff. Problem with china stuff is these people where got standard one. Their titanium like toaks/keith/lixada whatever feels noticeably cheap compared to other top brands that mostly sourced from Niigata Japan. Chinese would make 5% alloy and still claim it as titanium. Same with their waterproof rating that they pull out of their ass. 10000mm they said. But they never disclose the methodology and likely perform worse than MSR's honest 2000mm. |
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 20 2025, 06:00 PM) While there are some truth in brand tax, in context of msr vs naturehike the pricing it's far off actually. The original MSR design uses dac pole which is famously resilient and light but they charged arm and leg for it. Naturehike replaces it with some noticeably heavier alloy. I have old decommissioned hubba hubba with hydrolyzed fabric but its dac pole still holds liek rm1k+ market value lol i would argue its just reflecting its pricing levels. China is notorious for being very price conscious. like if the manufacturer decided that they just want to go cheap no frills, everything else will also be cheap. but if they target quality, they will produce quality products. its just what level you mau niaFor naturehike only their dome tent got pedigree. Other stuff afaik are still homegrown china stuff. Problem with china stuff is these people where got standard one. Their titanium like toaks/keith/lixada whatever feels noticeably cheap compared to other top brands that mostly sourced from Niigata Japan. Chinese would make 5% alloy and still claim it as titanium. Same with their waterproof rating that they pull out of their ass. 10000mm they said. But they never disclose the methodology and likely perform worse than MSR's honest 2000mm. most people as usual all want the "CHEAP CHEAP" and ignores the rest then complain when quality is shit kek. what people should be searching for is value for money, not just cheap. as for their claims yeah ive seen so many stupid claims like saying "this powerbank from china hold 100,000mah! can charge your phone at 200W!" topkek |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 20 2025, 04:43 PM) yeah i understand, but the issue is the so called "legit" stuff are too damn expensive la in our currency due to direct conversion. they were priced for western markets and western money, not ours. to them buy one gear like jacket will cost USD400 which to them is considered expensive. but in MYR its RM2k for the same jacket. really? 4 digit pricing for a jacket only? (i did bought it tho kek, kept me dry and warm during my hikes, but im sure even a cheaper model will do as good albeit 70% of its capability) Once start to collect gears... And than do not go camping, all get dusty, mouldy....might as well save those money and go stay in hotel eat buffet and call it a day.same goes for my hiking backpack, my 40L decathlon backpack proved its worth for years ed plus many hike/backpacking trips. only cost <RM300 too. meanwhile western brands like Deuter, Osprey, Gregory, Millet etc all cost like RM1.2k for 40L bags? if youre super into hiking/mountaineering and willing to spend, go ahead la. but its definitely not worth the price/perf ratio IMO plus gear hoarding is real guys... once you start you wouldnt stop kek Naturehike is one of the few chinese brands that are picking up. its good and i would recommend marfccy liked this post
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ May 24 2025, 10:34 PM) Once start to collect gears... And than do not go camping, all get dusty, mouldy....might as well save those money and go stay in hotel eat buffet and call it a day. deswai very hard to justify, but once bought ed means die2 must go hike so can use it kekwhich means never ending hike planning lolol |
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All these camping gear, can add up into the thousands. It is an industry of its own. To get fully setup with good quality gear, your budget must be at least several k.
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ May 20 2025, 04:33 PM) once we went to somewhere near genting Near genting naik 4x4.. yunkai campsite? haha4x4 guy came to pick up us, 2 backpack + ikea shopping bag (food + foldable chair/table) The drivers were casually asking "thats it?" Didnt know why, until we reached the campsite, yea ours look like temporary setup at construction site vs others camping with lights / tables / fan / countless tag boxes + luggage bags |
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 24 2025, 11:52 PM) All these camping gear, can add up into the thousands. It is an industry of its own. To get fully setup with good quality gear, your budget must be at least several k. Only splurge on thing that matter. I see people spend on garbage like string lights, sofa, cringe chairs, power stations, wooden cabinet air mattress etc wtfsmh that money could instead be used for tent better than whatever vidalido/blackdog hot garbage they are using. |
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 25 2025, 12:05 AM) Only splurge on thing that matter. I see people spend on garbage like string lights, sofa, cringe chairs, power stations, wooden cabinet air mattress etc wtf But just one Roof Top Tent can be 5k.... smh that money could instead be used for tent better than whatever vidalido/blackdog hot garbage they are using. |
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ May 25 2025, 12:12 AM) Yea when it's still very primitive, recently I see campsite expanded and seems more amoi joining. Last time went there I requested to climb with my own kapcai. Dam shiok the slope, until sesat masuk neighboring kebun 🤣Not a fan of that place, simply too noisy at night. Went during weekday when nobody's around, feels like sleeping in misty zombie village ![]() ![]() |
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man owner at camperz hideout just told me cant do campfire woh
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QUOTE(Chosen one @ May 25 2025, 06:23 AM) Maybe because I was there the during weekday so it very quiet. I came prepared for sleepless night after studying the review but eh it's not bad at all. But for their asking price, I have long list of better options. QUOTE(Chosen one @ May 25 2025, 09:50 AM) man owner at camperz hideout just told me cant do campfire woh Tok bak is ok. But these kind of 'easy' campsites tend to attract worst kind of campers you might even ended up regret coming. Plus 'near KL' and seeing stars doesn't go together. i just wanted campfire and stargazing thats all i want My go to for viewing stars is Bukit Maras in Terengganu |
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QUOTE(Chosen one @ May 25 2025, 09:50 AM) man owner at camperz hideout just told me cant do campfire woh Yeah. Yap san also already know mei just wanted campfire and stargazing thats all i want Can firecamp but use portable firecamp la Kenot open fire in ground Wanna stargazing yesterday but all time at night full cloud. Dem ![]() |
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QUOTE(akecema @ May 25 2025, 02:20 PM) Yeah. Yap san also already know me oh my thats too bad Can firecamp but use portable firecamp la Kenot open fire in ground Wanna stargazing yesterday but all time at night full cloud. Dem ![]() my date its 3/4 moon cycle also maybe quite bright cant see stars where did you get the fire logs ? |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 20 2025, 12:14 PM) like for example i can go decathlon buy a decent lightweight foldable chair for less than RM100. those big brands priced these same foldable chairs at like RM500 defak Material quality makes a big difference. Though if its just for simple camp/hike, use something cheap la. If break also not a big deal just buy a new one. How likely you're doing things so extreme until can break For somethings though, you need quality (e.g. bag). Don't buy bags from decathlon, the quality is horrible. QUOTE dont even get me started on stuff like titanium cookwares, just use cheaper aluminum and reap same benefits dammit People buy titanium cause its lightweight and durable. Can't really get the same benefit in aluminium. That said, its not worth the price. Once again, unless you're doing some form of hiking/camping where every gram matters, titanium doesn't do much for you. If going car camping, weight doesn't matter at all QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 25 2025, 12:05 AM) Only splurge on thing that matter. I see people spend on garbage like string lights, sofa, cringe chairs, power stations, wooden cabinet air mattress etc wtf I've been thinking of getting back into camping myself lately.. need a break from all the tech. Surprise surprise I see all the tech in people camping... wth. Kinda defeats the purpose?smh that money could instead be used for tent better than whatever vidalido/blackdog hot garbage they are using. |
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 26 2025, 11:55 AM) Material quality makes a big difference. Though if its just for simple camp/hike, use something cheap la. If break also not a big deal just buy a new one. How likely you're doing things so extreme until can break yes thats why i bought a rocket stove instead of a portable gas stove, now i have to search for firewood lolFor somethings though, you need quality (e.g. bag). Don't buy bags from decathlon, the quality is horrible. People buy titanium cause its lightweight and durable. Can't really get the same benefit in aluminium. That said, its not worth the price. Once again, unless you're doing some form of hiking/camping where every gram matters, titanium doesn't do much for you. If going car camping, weight doesn't matter at all I've been thinking of getting back into camping myself lately.. need a break from all the tech. Surprise surprise I see all the tech in people camping... wth. Kinda defeats the purpose? i wanted an oil lamp but there isnt anyone selling anymore mostly LED i want the organic feeling of camping |
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QUOTE(Chosen one @ May 26 2025, 11:29 AM) i wanted an oil lamp but there isnt anyone selling anymore mostly LED https://shopee.com.my/1Pc-Dental-Glass-Alco...606.20881534967i want the organic feeling of camping You can buy this component, then swap out the LED? My guess is the shape would be roughly the same if they're going for the same look. |
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QUOTE(Chosen one @ May 26 2025, 11:29 AM) yes thats why i bought a rocket stove instead of a portable gas stove, now i have to search for firewood lol try Gas Lantern instead. with those gas stove you can light up your area. I have 4 of those.i wanted an oil lamp but there isnt anyone selling anymore mostly LED i want the organic feeling of camping One thing i like about gas lantern and oil lantern, as they actually generates heat they are a good natural bug repeallant. |
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 26 2025, 10:55 AM) Material quality makes a big difference. Though if its just for simple camp/hike, use something cheap la. If break also not a big deal just buy a new one. How likely you're doing things so extreme until can break yes i believe so too, but problem is the pricing is just insanely high for what you are offered. im mostly comparing the default entry-mid level gear vs the ultralight high end ones laFor somethings though, you need quality (e.g. bag). Don't buy bags from decathlon, the quality is horrible. People buy titanium cause its lightweight and durable. Can't really get the same benefit in aluminium. That said, its not worth the price. Once again, unless you're doing some form of hiking/camping where every gram matters, titanium doesn't do much for you. If going car camping, weight doesn't matter at all alot of the ultralight stuff for example, while they are durable but by physics because of lower & thinner denier fabric or using thinner metals like aluminum/titanium, their durability isnt that much diff vs just getting the slightly heavier models. ended up the "heavier" models outlast them kek ironically for the bags, decathlon while its considered low quality, it still works well for me and i believe to most average consumer for basic level use too. for the more experienced or specific niche user however it will be a diff story since they know what they want and need for their specific use case scenario. just IMO the decathlon basic ones covers 70% of the base user spectrum use case all the time, so its not necessary to get the expensive ones. yes correct on the last paragraph, alot of people are too focused on fancy shit like being ultralight or "buying into quality things" then ended up paying a super premium on things that they dont actually matter/need. car campers dont need to worry much abt weight or size unless their cars are tiny and weaker engine, but even so its quite negligible if you preplan what you are packing in first place im also kinda biased in a sense that if youre gonna do all these shit like outdoor camping/hiking/trekking etc, the bare min you must do is to have the ability to plan your carry weight and actually carry most of your own stuff till the end. otherwise its no difference than those colonial climbing where you just hire some huge entourage with someone to piggyback you entire time and carrying your shit. seen this alot during Mt Rinjani and Mt K climb, where alot people just pay to get porters to carry their heavy stuff that they simply pack super heavy under the excuses like "im supporting their economy" or "im too old/weak/tired etc" or "i got the money so why you blow?" |
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 26 2025, 10:55 AM) I've been thinking of getting back into camping myself lately.. need a break from all the tech. Surprise surprise I see all the tech in people camping... wth. Kinda defeats the purpose? Thats why I avoid these slop campsites with power outlets. These sites tend to attract the most obnoxious type of campers that treat campsite like their family day venue with all speakers, electronics, spotlights and whatnot and not willing to take their own trash back with them.QUOTE(Chosen one @ May 26 2025, 11:29 AM) i wanted an oil lamp but there isnt anyone selling anymore mostly LED aaa you missed Coleman 295A all time low in Amazon few days ago. Like only rm 3xx. I'm itching to buy but already have 2 loli want the organic feeling of camping Normal price is like rm 500. If buy from local dealer they ask rm 1k. This post has been edited by failed.hashcheck: May 26 2025, 12:01 PM |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 26 2025, 11:44 AM) yes i believe so too, but problem is the pricing is just insanely high for what you are offered. im mostly comparing the default entry-mid level gear vs the ultralight high end ones la alot of the ultralight stuff for example, while they are durable but by physics because of lower & thinner denier fabric or using thinner metals like aluminum/titanium, their durability isnt that much diff vs just getting the slightly heavier models. ended up the "heavier" models outlast them kek Of course la, heavier material is more durable QUOTE ironically for the bags, decathlon while its considered low quality, it still works well for me and i believe to most average consumer for basic level use too. for the more experienced or specific niche user however it will be a diff story since they know what they want and need for their specific use case scenario. just IMO the decathlon basic ones covers 70% of the base user spectrum use case all the time, so its not necessary to get the expensive ones. I bought a decathlon bag for my helper to use as a kids stuff bag when we're out and about. It mostly functions ok, but within a few months the zips rosak already. QUOTE im also kinda biased in a sense that if youre gonna do all these shit like outdoor camping/hiking/trekking etc, the bare min you must do is to have the ability to plan your carry weight and actually carry most of your own stuff till the end. otherwise its no difference than those colonial climbing where you just hire some huge entourage with someone to piggyback you entire time and carrying your shit. seen this alot during Mt Rinjani and Mt K climb, where alot people just pay to get porters to carry their heavy stuff that they simply pack super heavy under the excuses like "im supporting their economy" or "im too old/weak/tired etc" or "i got the money so why you blow?" 100% agreeCarry your own load goddamit |
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 26 2025, 12:42 PM) Of course la, heavier material is more durable haha thats why i feel like its a scam, youre paying so much but durability tarak. apa macem I bought a decathlon bag for my helper to use as a kids stuff bag when we're out and about. It mostly functions ok, but within a few months the zips rosak already. 100% agree Carry your own load goddamit dem i need to be careful for mine then, maybe cause mine isnt used daily but more on travelling which is like 2-3 times a year so it hasnt seen much wear and tear. by getting them to carry own load, they will now know how tough it is to carry heavy weights long distance and learn to appreciate preplanning even more. no more carry unnecessary stuff |
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QUOTE(fu'house @ May 24 2025, 11:49 PM) Mount Kinabalu if want to copy this: Koan Camping Ground Lake Motosuko![]() Not like we have sakura tree snow or facilities toilet for outdoor camping/trashcan/vending machine. that's a famous campground in Japan.. i actually want to do it once at least but then it's no where affordable trying to bring my camping gear over/buying mount peak gears there/renting. fu'house liked this post
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Ayam camping now the moar i go, the less item i bring
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Looking for a Chalet with camping.
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QUOTE(failed.hashcheck @ May 26 2025, 11:59 AM) Thats why I avoid these slop campsites with power outlets. These sites tend to attract the most obnoxious type of campers that treat campsite like their family day venue with all speakers, electronics, spotlights and whatnot and not willing to take their own trash back with them. i just experience this recently Thought it will be 1 family saja, last2 whole kampung came and do family day there. plus I prefer those with outlet so i can plug stuff like table fan and charging port (for my LED lamps & phone). now i own spacious car, i sleep in car better than tent hence tent mainly to store other items while camping (food stock, plastic bag, and etc) |
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