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post May 16 2025, 07:11 AM, updated 7 months ago

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Never learn from Zimbabwe?
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South Africa climate is similar to Australia, idea for agriculture. Before anc took over, real estate and living standards was among the highest in the world and a very pleasant place to visit.

Most south African with dual nationality have left. Non black dont have dual citizenship also leaving.

Many of anc policies was learned from umno.

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post May 16 2025, 07:21 AM

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every place is beautiful without whites ruining everything
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Mediteranean weather

Similar to the rest of shithole cuntries in the mediteranean, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Syria etc
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ May 16 2025, 07:21 AM)
every place is beautiful without whites ruining everything
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south africa isn't really really black africa

without the whites, south africa won't be south africa today
they would have no food to eat at all laugh.gif

now that all the whites are all gone, wonder what all the locals are about to eat after all that celebrations and parades laugh.gif
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post May 16 2025, 08:05 AM

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Fark up place,, no wonder Elon Musk migrate to USA
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post May 16 2025, 08:07 AM

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so can we call those white african migrating to US as African American?
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post May 16 2025, 08:33 AM

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cape town quite scenic
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ May 16 2025, 07:21 AM)
every place is beautiful without whites ruining everything
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if elon musk move his hq back to south africa.. i will believe
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post May 16 2025, 08:44 AM

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they are doing well when under socalled apartheid regime

they almost got nuke that time, and is the most industrialized country in africa

now up car liao after 'freedom' and 'equality'
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anglo saxon plan success again, de-stabilize africa so it will forever cannot become superpower
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 16 2025, 08:44 AM)
they are doing well when under socalled apartheid regime

they almost got nuke that time, and is the most industrialized country in africa

now up car liao after 'freedom' and 'equality'
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 16 2025, 08:04 AM)
south africa isn't really really black africa

without the whites, south africa won't be south africa today
they would have no food to eat at all laugh.gif

now that all the whites are all gone, wonder what all the locals are about to eat after all that celebrations and parades laugh.gif
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Eat tourists?

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 16 2025, 08:04 AM)
south africa isn't really really black africa

without the whites, south africa won't be south africa today
they would have no food to eat at all laugh.gif

now that all the whites are all gone, wonder what all the locals are about to eat after all that celebrations and parades laugh.gif
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They are going to end up like the farm animals.. eat each other until the end because they didn't realize everything needs hard work.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 16 2025, 08:04 AM)
south africa isn't really really black africa

without the whites, south africa won't be south africa today
they would have no food to eat at all laugh.gif

now that all the whites are all gone, wonder what all the locals are about to eat after all that celebrations and parades laugh.gif
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Eat tourists?

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post May 16 2025, 08:52 AM

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Many rich msian own homes in South Africa. I know a few Penangite have holiday homes there. There must be a reason right.
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ May 16 2025, 08:50 AM)
Eat tourists?
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south africa very less tourist since many years ago
this country is named one of the most dangerous country to visit/lived in the world for a reason...high caliber weapons and armored truck are a norm there

and who made this country that dangerous and with such high crime rates hmm.gif laugh.gif
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post May 16 2025, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(sairay @ May 16 2025, 08:52 AM)
Many rich msian own homes in South Africa. I know a few Penangite have holiday homes there. There must be a reason right.
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Are their lands liable to be expropriated?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 16 2025, 08:53 AM)
south africa very less tourist since many years ago
this country is named one of the most dangerous country to visit/lived in the world for a reason...high caliber weapons and armored truck are a norm there

and who made this country that dangerous and with such high crime rates hmm.gif  laugh.gif
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some said nelson mandela

but don't you dare to question nelson, he is saint
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Should learn from them and allow them to keep those land if they agree to share their knowledge, so much to learn.

Later scammers come, even worse, paksa suap rasuah semua, curi tanah, pastu jerit kene tindas nonstop dan protest.
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QUOTE(sairay @ May 16 2025, 08:52 AM)
Many rich msian own homes in South Africa. I know a few Penangite have holiday homes there. There must be a reason right.
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Serious?

It's a high crime rate country. Where you need to carry gun to defence.
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Wakanda the best

UMNo learn from Wakanda or Wakanda teach UMNo

Mamakthir look Australia policy best
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post May 16 2025, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 16 2025, 08:55 AM)
Should learn from them and allow them to keep those land if they agree to share their knowledge, so much to learn.

Later scammers come, even worse, paksa suap rasuah semua, curi tanah, pastu jerit kene tindas nonstop dan protest.
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you mean the indian diaspora there ah?

why so racist?
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QUOTE(ozak @ May 16 2025, 08:56 AM)
Serious?

It's a high crime rate country. Where you need to carry gun to defence.
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One of the highest rape per capita nations.
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QUOTE(smallbug @ May 16 2025, 08:54 AM)
Are their lands liable to be expropriated?
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No idea. I guess they had done their due diligence. Only hear them said beautiful country and scenery.
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many squatter there and government cannot do much thing but provide them entertainment. u will see those rumah attap build illegally in some spot. and surprisingly those rumah attap got subscribed satellite tv like astro.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 16 2025, 08:57 AM)
you mean the indian diaspora there ah?

why so racist?
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Many ktards open thread about CCP scammer, I don't see anyone calling them racist.
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Never learn from Zimbabwe?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 16 2025, 08:53 AM)
south africa very less tourist since many years ago
this country is named one of the most dangerous country to visit/lived in the world for a reason...high caliber weapons and armored truck are a norm there

and who made this country that dangerous and with such high crime rates hmm.gif  laugh.gif
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When my parents were on an incentive trip by an insurance company a few years ago, during their convention it was announced that the next year's Tier 1 trip is to South Africa.

Immediately after the announcement, some of the delegates stood up and say "No, no, no!", then requested the CEO to change the country. It turns out they had been to South Africa previously, and didn't want to go back - ever. When asked why, they voiced out that it's a total dump, and very unsafe, - you can be robbed the minute you stepped from the hotel.

After much deliberation, the CEO decided to change to another country, and EVERYONE in the hall clapped loudly supporting it. That was just HOW BAD SOUTH AFRICA WAS.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 16 2025, 07:18 AM)
South Africa climate is similar to Australia, idea for agriculture. Before anc took over, real estate and living standards was among the highest in the world and a very pleasant place to visit.

Most south African with dual nationality have left. Non black dont have dual citizenship also leaving.

Many of anc policies was learned from umno.
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Look like malusian forgotten what PM4 did to South Africa.
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Only Cape Town is decent. but u may get robbed also if not careful.

one of my most stressful trips but can't deny it's very beautiful.

roads also much better than Sabah
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Deswai when ppl say bricks will dominate is laughable. All bricks got deep systemic issues holding it back and no will to clean up. Msia is heaven compared bricks.
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 16 2025, 09:32 AM)
Only Cape Town is decent. but u may get robbed also if not careful.

one of my most stressful trips but can't deny it's very beautiful.

roads also much better than Sabah
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Building new stuff syok, dapat project. Maintaining will be the real test.
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QUOTE(sairay @ May 16 2025, 09:52 AM)
Many rich msian own homes in South Africa. I know a few Penangite have holiday homes there. There must be a reason right.
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The reason are pretty normal statistically. For every one Malaysian that have holiday homes there , there might be 100 having holiday homes in US and European nations.




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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 16 2025, 08:04 AM)
south africa isn't really really black africa

without the whites, south africa won't be south africa today
they would have no food to eat at all laugh.gif

now that all the whites are all gone, wonder what all the locals are about to eat after all that celebrations and parades laugh.gif
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Guess they never learned anything.

In Uganda, when Idi Amin kicked out Asians, who were the backbone of the country's economy, and calling them "leaches", the whole country collapsed and never recovered.

Then there was Robert Mugabe shooing whites away from Zimbabwe, and not even 2 years later, they suffered from famine. Had to grovel and ask the whites back, pay them compensation - but also never recovered.

We know where SA is heading now, by kicking the Boers (whites) out. Question is, will Malaysia learn or ignore this?


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From my client who wented south afrika.

SA got same problem with Malaysia. The ppl in power seize business that "seems easy" and very creative in running them into the ground then bankrupt. Then blame the rich minority for the problems.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ May 16 2025, 09:43 AM)
Guess they never learned anything.

In Uganda, when Idi Amin kicked out Asians, who were the backbone of the country's economy, and calling them "leaches", the whole country collapsed and never recovered.

Then there was Robert Mugabe shooing whites away from Zimbabwe, and not even 2 years later, they suffered from famine. Had to grovel and ask the whites back, pay them compensation - but also never recovered.

We know where SA is heading now, by kicking the Boers (whites) out. Question is, will Malaysia learn or ignore this?
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Hahaha. U think Malaysia will learn? If they know how to learn we would have surpass Singapore by now.
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I guess Malaysia still ok since bmf never really take off.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 16 2025, 07:18 AM)
South Africa climate is similar to Australia, idea for agriculture. Before anc took over, real estate and living standards was among the highest in the world and a very pleasant place to visit.

Most south African with dual nationality have left. Non black dont have dual citizenship also leaving.

Many of anc policies was learned from umno.
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very nice place but shit management
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ May 16 2025, 09:43 AM)
Guess they never learned anything.

In Uganda, when Idi Amin kicked out Asians, who were the backbone of the country's economy, and calling them "leaches", the whole country collapsed and never recovered.

Then there was Robert Mugabe shooing whites away from Zimbabwe, and not even 2 years later, they suffered from famine. Had to grovel and ask the whites back, pay them compensation - but also never recovered.

We know where SA is heading now, by kicking the Boers (whites) out. Question is, will Malaysia learn or ignore this?
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You expect ketuanan to learn? you are in denial.

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Cape Town ok. But pls dont go to Johannesburg. Full of blacks. Anytime can get raped

I went to Cape Town before Covid. Beautiful place but darn expensive
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ May 16 2025, 10:43 AM)
Guess they never learned anything.

In Uganda, when Idi Amin kicked out Asians, who were the backbone of the country's economy, and calling them "leaches", the whole country collapsed and never recovered.

Then there was Robert Mugabe shooing whites away from Zimbabwe, and not even 2 years later, they suffered from famine. Had to grovel and ask the whites back, pay them compensation - but also never recovered.

We know where SA is heading now, by kicking the Boers (whites) out. Question is, will Malaysia learn or ignore this?
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What I fear is.. with the dwindling numbers of nons birthrate, while others migrating elsewhere after gotten sick of this BS...... there will come a time its no longer sustainable. This is when anarchy will happen . in rhe end of the day.. its about ricebowl and auto-entitlements to them at birth.

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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 16 2025, 09:38 AM)

Building new stuff syok, dapat project. Maintaining will be the real test.
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they have 70% unemployment.

and most of the celebrities buy houses there especially in Cape Town but don't live there. locals dont get money
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ May 16 2025, 12:22 PM)
What I fear is.. with the dwindling numbers of nons birthrate, while others migrating elsewhere after gotten sick of this BS......  there will come a time its no longer sustainable.  This is when anarchy will happen . in rhe end of the day.. its about ricebowl and auto-entitlements to them at birth.
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You edi know it. Just a matter of time, then the remaining non will just leave Malaysia in exodus with or without citizenship of another country.
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You edi know it. Just a matter of time, then the remaining non will just leave Malaysia in exodus with or without citizenship of another country.
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Lol, I heard the opposite, many tongsan inkambing here, so much money to be made here.

And they will stay as long as there is money to be made here. Because Malaysia has many natural resources to be exploited and robbed, look at Sarawak, so many billionaires.

The only time that they might leave is after they have suck us dry like this country:



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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 16 2025, 07:18 AM)
South Africa climate is similar to Australia, idea for agriculture. Before anc took over, real estate and living standards was among the highest in the world and a very pleasant place to visit.

Most south African with dual nationality have left. Non black dont have dual citizenship also leaving.

Many of anc policies was learned from umno.
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You visited South Africa before 1994?
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ May 16 2025, 12:18 PM)
MY good or not?
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bee is modelled after nep. Many of anc policies were learned from umno.

QUOTE(smsid @ May 18 2025, 10:24 AM)
Lol, I heard the opposite, many tongsan inkambing here, so much money to be made here.

And they will stay as long as there is money to be made here. Because Malaysia has many natural resources to be exploited and robbed, look at Sarawak, so many billionaires.

The only time that they might leave is after they have suck us dry like this country:

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If the country is not conducive to businesses, people will naturally move out regardless of locals or foreigners.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 18 2025, 10:36 AM)
bee is modelled after nep. Many of anc policies were learned from umno.
If the country is not conducive to businesses, people will naturally move out regardless of locals or foreigners.
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That you are wrong, they will stay, because they decided to make this land as their home many centuries ago.

There is no country like Malaysia, we are blessed indeed, with many kinds of people, race, religion, foreigners, natural resources, oil, and gas.

Our only problem is man made disaster, most from flooding, scammers, and politicians playing R&R issues.

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can ady see comments in socmed that ppl blaming the current corruption issue in South Africa is due to colonisation

sendiri do corruption, can blame whites pulak

sounds familiar
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Blame game and race game, but they themselves incompetent and can't do, slowly turning into a shithole. 😅

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ May 18 2025, 10:44 AM)
can ady see comments in socmed that ppl blaming the current corruption issue in South Africa is due to colonisation

sendiri do corruption, can blame whites pulak

sounds familiar
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Because they take advantage of African's good nature and naivety and only allow corrupt politicians to lead, for the benefit of colonialism.

British also did the same here, they exile good leaders in Malaya and install corruptible rulers. It is simply good for business if you have leaders that align with your goals.

Look how easy it is to bribe Sarawakians native because they feel gratitude for the littlest gesture, oblivious of the outcome.

QUOTE(CeDhhVs @ May 13 2025, 03:33 PM)
those sarawakians easily content with with packs of beer

hahahaha

just look at them during election campaign
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Ppl who like to blame whites for everything, maybe look at Venezuela?
Yeah whites are not all mighty and holy, but maybe look at the local first?
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 18 2025, 10:56 AM)
Because they take advantage of African's good nature and naivety and only allow corrupt politicians to lead, for the benefit of colonialism.

British also did the same here, they exile good leaders in Malaya and install corruptible rulers. It is simply good for business if you have leaders that align with your goals.

Look how easy it is to bribe Sarawakians native because they feel gratitude for the littlest gesture, oblivious of the outcome.
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Isn't this nep?

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Isn't this nep?
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Nop, NEP is every year, regardless of who leads the country.

But those only happen during the election year.

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 18 2025, 10:24 AM)
Lol, I heard the opposite, many tongsan inkambing here, so much money to be made here.

And they will stay as long as there is money to be made here. Because Malaysia has many natural resources to be exploited and robbed, look at Sarawak, so many billionaires.

The only time that they might leave is after they have suck us dry like this country:


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Yea tongsan comes here to make money, when things becomes bad they leave together with all the nons
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Same like india.. top ranking in rape
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i read up on the history of south africa a while back and it's kinda understandable why the native africans are historically unhappy. its like a worse version of the colonialism in malaya - basically two colonial powers (the brits and the dutch) were competing on who can take more land and mines before the other does and africans became the victim.

so not only did the colonial governments (both the british cape government and boer republics) essentially waged war on african kingdoms (and then each other) and parcelled out thousands of acres each to individual whites, they also legislated laws that kept africans only to labour work with zero chance of education. so not only did some africans were robbed of their land and then forced to work on their own farms as low-paid labourers, new immigrants (like gandhi) who are educated became a higher class citizen than them.

so the anger is a bit understandable.

that being said, there's a proper way of doing things. you make sure the people who you want to take over know what theyre doing, instead of just being cronies. the way south africa did it combines the worst of populism and socialist land redistribution.
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Ppl who like to blame whites for everything, maybe look at Venezuela?
Yeah whites are not all mighty and holy, but maybe look at the local first?
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Because they take advantage of African's good nature and naivety and only allow corrupt politicians to lead, for the benefit of colonialism.

British also did the same here, they exile good leaders in Malaya and install corruptible rulers. It is simply good for business if you have leaders that align with your goals.

They were never interested in sharing their knowledge with those they steal their land from, they have the same zionist mentality, heck, they also mostly came from Europe.

That's why Nelson Mandela said:
“We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.”
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mau equity tapi tamau hard work. that's niggers
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It is not that they don't want to work hard, in fact they are being abused as cheap labor by colonials master everywhere.

They just don't want their land and natural resources to get plundered by greedy scalper mentality who want to own everything.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 18 2025, 03:33 PM)
It is not that they don't want to work hard, in fact they are being abused as cheap labor by colonials master everywhere.

They just don't want their land and natural resources to get plundered by greedy scalper mentality who want to own everything.
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Hello, the blacks were given back the country half century ago. that's almost 2 generations already, so there's no more excuse. If the local population is Chinese it would have been a different story, the country would have developed.
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Hello, the blacks were given back the country half century ago. that's almost 2 generations already, so there's no more excuse. If the local population is Chinese it would have been a different story, the country would have developed.
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Hello, not everyone has the eagerness to plunder the earth clean and dry and leave nothing for future generations.

Everyone has different priorities, for them is keeping the land free from any greedy foreigners who look down at their people, their skin, their language, and their culture.



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Hello, not everyone has the eagerness to plunder the earth clean and dry and leave nothing for future generations.

Everyone has different priorities, for them is keeping the land free from any greedy foreigners who look down at their people, their skin, their language, and their culture.


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If they choose to be backward and a shithole, it's their choice. So stop blaming some foreigners as an excuse. Just say the truth, ownself is incompetent and corrupt. 😅
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At least those racist Angmohs are gone. So they fixed the racism problem and now they all achieved equality with one another.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 18 2025, 03:33 PM)
It is not that they don't want to work hard, in fact they are being abused as cheap labor by colonials master everywhere.

They just don't want their land and natural resources to get plundered by greedy scalper mentality who want to own everything.
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sudah rampas ladang, mau achi achor lagi. expect animal to rear themselves to become fat for slaughter. lol
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Not all the nons. Only with same color. brows.gif
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If they choose to be backward and a shithole, it's their choice. So stop blaming some foreigners as an excuse. Just say the truth, ownself is incompetent and corrupt. 😅
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sudah rampas ladang, mau achi achor lagi. expect animal to rear themselves to become fat for slaughter. lol
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They do it because they don't want to be the next Palestine, it is that simple.

They want to rule the country by themselves, please respect their wishes, those European has massacre many natives already, from down under Australia/New Zealand, to America/Canada, and now the Middle East and Africa.
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They do it because they don't want to be the next Palestine, it is that simple.

They want to rule the country by themselves, please respect their wishes, those European has massacre many natives already, from down under Australia/New Zealand, to America/Canada, and now the Middle East and Africa.
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Then why is the black leader still butthurt with the angmohs gone? laugh.gif

He shud be happy wut.
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Then why is the black leader still butthurt with the angmohs gone?  laugh.gif

He shud be happy wut.
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Most of it is propaganda, they want those Africa to continue to rely on their white master.

Look at Libya, almost completely free from any debt, they change the landscape by creating rivers artificially to allow mass farming, start hoarding gold and plan to use it as currency.

And NATO, France, and America destroy the country and poison the river water supply with depleted uranium bombs.

That's how evil they are, they never want the Africans to be free and independent.

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/0...pleted-uranium/

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 18 2025, 05:35 PM)
Most of it is propaganda, they want those Africa to continue to rely on their white master.

Look at Libya, almost completely free from any debt, they change the landscape by creating rivers artificially to allow mass farming, start hoarding gold as use it as currency reserves.

And NATO, France, and America destroy the country and poison the river water supply with depleted uranium bombs.

That's how evil they are, they never want the Africans to be free and independent.

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/0...pleted-uranium/
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Guess you didn't know about the crime and rape rates in South Africa. You think such people can run the country by themselves?

Or will they devolve back to their natural state. laugh.gif
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Guess you didn't know about the crime and rape rates in South Africa. You think such people can run the country by themselves?

Or will they devolve back to their natural state. laugh.gif
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Most of those are propaganda, India and Pakistan also have many rape cases, so they should forfeit their country and let someone else rule it?

Someone that look down on their religion, culture, and their skin color?
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 18 2025, 05:45 PM)
Most of those are propaganda, India and Pakistan also have many rape cases, so they should forfeit their country and let someone else rule it?

Someone that look down on their religion, culture, and their skin color?
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As long as they stay in their own shitholes, nobody gonna care.

But they can migrate. And usually they do. laugh.gif
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As long as they stay in their own shitholes, nobody gonna care.

But they can migrate. And usually they do.  laugh.gif
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That's why Gaddafi says that Europe should thank Libya for holding those immigrants from zerg rush Europe, Libya is a prosperous country that gives places to refugees and immigrants.

And what thank did Libya get?

What thank did Gaddafi get?

He get sodomize, tortured, and beheaded on live TV.

And they can't find the chemical weapon they accuse Libya off, same as Iraq W.M.D, just baseless accusations.


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QUOTE(smsid @ May 18 2025, 05:55 PM)
That's why Gaddafi says that Europe should thank Libya for holding those immigrants from zerg rush Europe, Libya is a prosperous country that gives places to refugees and immigrants.

And what thank did Libya get?

What thank did Gaddafi get?

He get sodomize, tortured, and beheaded on live TV.

And they can't find the chemical weapon they accuse Libya off, same as Iraq W.M.D, just baseless accusations.


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From South Africa, you go all the way to Libya pulak. We talking about South Africa la. And you can also extrapolate to most of Sub Saharan Africa. laugh.gif

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From South Africa, you go all the way to Libya pulak. We talking about South Africa la. And you can also extrapolate to most of Sub Saharan Africa.  laugh.gif
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I'm just saying, they don't want any Africa countries to be fully independent, Libya is part of Africa, most of refugees and immigrants in Africa goes to Libya before they were destroyed badly.

They will do everything, via propaganda, sabotage, hire terrorists and final resort, fake freedom and democracy to destabilize the nation.

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 16 2025, 08:55 AM)
Should learn from them and allow them to keep those land if they agree to share their knowledge, so much to learn.

Later scammers come, even worse, paksa suap rasuah semua, curi tanah, pastu jerit kene tindas nonstop dan protest.
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I might get brickbats for this but I have no problem fast tracking mm2h for some of these farmers. They got money, know how and might be interested to start up again in a more business friendly country. Our power and water supply here is light years ahead of what they're used to

We can naturalise Lee tuck (god bless his effort) for his talent I don't see an issue fast tracking a SA for potential economic and food security contributions
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 18 2025, 06:03 PM)
I'm just saying, they don't want any Africa countries to be fully independent, Libya is part of Africa, it were the place most African goes to.

They will do everything, via propaganda, sabotage, hire terrorists and final resort, fake freedom and democracy to destabilize the nation.
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Then why the African continent is the only continent relatively free of Covid vaccines? brows.gif
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Then why the African continent is the only continent relatively free of Covid vaccines?  brows.gif
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Because they know full well of Bill Gated "free" vaccine programs in Africa.
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Because they know full well of Bill Gated "free" vaccine programs in Africa.
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But if you say they always wanted to oppress and kill off the Africans, they should have forced the vaccines on them more vigorously, right?

And by the way, Gadaffi is a Mediterranean white, same like Greeks and Italians and Tunisians and Algerians. He is not black. dry.gif
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But if you say they always wanted to oppress and kill off the Africans, they should have forced the vaccines on them more vigorously, right?

And by the way, Gadaffi is a Mediterranean white, same like Greeks and Italians and Tunisians and Algerians. He is not black.  dry.gif
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Nop, they are busy making money during covid to care about Africa, seeing adults get lockdown like little naughty children.

The top wealthy people doubled their wealth under lockdown, profits comes first.
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Nop, they are busy making money during covid to care about Africa, seeing adults get lockdown like little naughty children.

The top wealthy people doubled their wealth under lockdown, profits comes first.
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So your assertion that they always want to do bad to the Africans is wrong.

And you won't admit that in USA today, the jails are full of what? Black Americans. Despite being only 14% of the total population. They are definitely more educated that their cousins in Africa, but why still commit crimes?

#BLM #BlackLivesMatter
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So your assertion that they always want to do bad to the Africans is wrong.

And you won't admit that in USA today, the jails are full of what? Black Americans. Despite being only 14% of the total population. They are definitely more educated that their cousins in Africa, but why still commit crimes?

#BLM #BlackLivesMatter
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Lol, don't compare them to spoilt Black Americans.

When I talk about Libya which is part of the Africa continent that answers your questions about the exodus of immigrants and refugees to Europe, you call me changing the topic.

But now you shift your goal post again by questioning me unrelated topics.

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That's why Gaddafi says that Europe should thank Libya for holding those immigrants from zerg rush Europe, Libya is a prosperous country that gives places to refugees and immigrants.

And what thank did Libya get?

What thank did Gaddafi get?

He get sodomize, tortured, and beheaded on live TV.

And they can't find the chemical weapon they accuse Libya off, same as Iraq W.M.D, just baseless accusations.


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They did find mustard gas and sarin in Libya, including large stockpiles of precursors. Took quite a long time to transport and destroy them all properly, well into the late 2010s.
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Lol, don't compare them to spoilt Black Americans.

When I talk about Libya which is part of the Africa continent that answers your questions about the exodus of immigrants and refugees to Europe, you call me changing the topic.

But now you shift your goal post again by questioning me unrelated topics.
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And I told you back, Gadaffi is not a black African...... brows.gif

You have a deep seated victimhood mentality that clouds your thinking.

You want me give another example?

Why China people are flooding Japan and not the other way around? I thought China is so developed and rich?

Japan and China, what could be so different among them that attract so00 many CCP people to migrate there, and bring their thinking and culture over? Don't they know Japanese dislike them a lot?

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How many of you actually visited South Africa before?

Their problems are mostly tribal -- many of the blacks don't even trust other blacks from different tribes. The Zulu, vs Xhosa vs Sotho vs etc., a lot of tribal tensions between them all.
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QUOTE(differ @ May 18 2025, 07:16 PM)
How many of you actually visited South Africa before?

Their problems are mostly tribal -- many of the blacks don't even trust other blacks from different tribes. The Zulu, vs Xhosa vs Sotho vs etc., a lot of tribal tensions between them all.
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Should just leave them alone, like those uncontacted tribes in the Amazon. And leave their lands alone, please.
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Should just leave them alone, like those uncontacted tribes in the Amazon. And leave their lands alone, please.
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When i say tribes, I meant the different black ethnic groups. Not those still living in the bush.
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Guess they never learned anything.

In Uganda, when Idi Amin kicked out Asians, who were the backbone of the country's economy, and calling them "leaches", the whole country collapsed and never recovered.

Then there was Robert Mugabe shooing whites away from Zimbabwe, and not even 2 years later, they suffered from famine. Had to grovel and ask the whites back, pay them compensation - but also never recovered.

We know where SA is heading now, by kicking the Boers (whites) out. Question is, will Malaysia learn or ignore this?
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So you mean the majority will kick the minority that work hard developing the country? Situation difference..i dont see indian or chinese work as farmers and factory workers
Youre comparing apple to orange
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They did find mustard gas and sarin in Libya, including large stockpiles of precursors. Took quite a long time to transport and destroy them all properly, well into the late 2010s.
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My bad, I was incorrect regarding that matter.

They were in the process of destroying the stockpiles, but the uprising happened, and the whole operation was suspended.

So Gadaffi allowed foreign organization to overseer and to destroy their chemical weapons, they were halfway to the job.

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The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) supervised the destruction of Libya's chemical weapons caches through February 2011, when it was forced to suspend its operations due to the uprising against Gaddafi and the resulting deterioration of the country's stability. By then, Libya had destroyed 40% of its precursor materials and 55% of its mustard gas, as well as 3,500 chemical weapon munitions.[31] In early September 2011, OPCW Director-General Ahmet Üzümcü said reports he had received indicated that the remaining weapons were secure and had not fallen into the hands of militant groups.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libya_and_w...ass_destruction

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And I told you back, Gadaffi is not a black African...... brows.gif

You have a deep seated victimhood mentality that clouds your thinking.

You want me give another example?

Why China people are flooding Japan and not the other way around? I thought China is so developed and rich?

Japan and China, what could be so different among them that attract so00 many CCP people to migrate there, and bring their thinking and culture over? Don't they know Japanese dislike them a lot?
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You go Google Libya people, a lot of them look like your regular African people.

Like Egypt, they also have a rich history with Rome, so there are mix kind of people too.

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However in 74 BC, the last Ptolemaic ruler, Ptolemy Apion bequeathed control of Cyrenaica to Rome which resulted in most of what would now be present day Libya, becoming a Roman province 1. Cyrenaica was turned into a senatorial province of Rome in 20 BCE 2.

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Lol, you want them to forever rely on their white master?

Let them be free, those are mostly propaganda by America and Europe, which wants dirt cheap resources from Africa.

Now they want to kill this guy next:



They will only allow corrupt leaders to rule Africa, those who can't be corruped, will be killed brutally by the Western powers.
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 18 2025, 02:45 PM)
Because they take advantage of African's good nature and naivety and only allow corrupt politicians to lead, for the benefit of colonialism.

British also did the same here, they exile good leaders in Malaya and install corruptible rulers. It is simply good for business if you have leaders that align with your goals.

They were never interested in sharing their knowledge with those they steal their land from, they have the same zionist mentality, heck, they also mostly came from Europe.

That's why Nelson Mandela said:
“We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.”
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Idk man, I didn't learn in history that we have PM/Agong that is of Europe origin lol
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QUOTE(smsid @ May 19 2025, 10:54 AM)
Lol, you want them to forever rely on their white master?

Let them be free, those are mostly propaganda by America and Europe, which wants dirt cheap resources from Africa.

Now they want to kill this guy next:



They will only allow corrupt leaders to rule Africa, those who can't be corruped, will be killed brutally by the Western powers.
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But you won't say that China has already a huge grip on Africa can you?

You think that is good?
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Idk man, I didn't learn in history that we have PM/Agong that is of Europe origin lol
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Sorry, can't talk about that, later abang polis datang jemput masuk ke balai polis.

QUOTE(Hobbez @ May 19 2025, 01:31 PM)
But you won't say that China has already a huge grip on Africa can you?

You think that is good?
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They behave better than the West, at least so far, China has not bomb or assassinated leaders they don't like in Africa and the Middle East, they just bribe anyone who is greedy enough to take it.

But China can't do what Western countries did, later all propaganda will come out to destroy CCP reputation, they constantly looking for China dirty secret or weakness because CCP is their no.1 enemy now.

Maybe that's why Trump is trying to strike peace deals in the Middle East and Russia, to focus everything on CCP next.

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Sorry, can't talk about that, later abang polis datang jemput masuk ke balai polis.
They behave better than the West, at least so far, China has not bomb or assassinated leaders they don't like in Africa and the Middle East, they just bribe anyone who is greedy enough to take it.

But China can't do what Western countries did, later all propaganda will come out to destroy CCP reputation, they constantly looking for China dirty secret or weakness because CCP is their no.1 enemy now.

Maybe that's why Trump is trying to strike peace deals in the Middle East and Russia, to focus everything on CCP next.
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You go Google Libya people, a lot of them look like your regular African people.
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Umm, not in Tripoli they don't. They are mostly all Arabs everywhere you see in the city, of cos a bit darker skin than say the Gulf States -- but features are very clearly Arab.
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Umm, not in Tripoli they don't. They are mostly all Arabs everywhere you see in the city, of cos a bit darker skin than say the Gulf States -- but features are very clearly Arab.
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Lol, like that in Malaysia also the same, since when one city is representing entire nation?
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Sh*thole la. Before that, white supremacy was there to control. Now can become another cowboy town d
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Lol, like that in Malaysia also the same, since when one city is representing entire nation?
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Well I dunno about you la, but I have been to Tripoli before for work. While our movements were restricted, whenever we could go out of the hotel then we saw mostly Arab-looking people, but again with darker complexion.

That was in early 2010s though. When was the last time you were there?
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They the one who chase those white peoples out, robbing raping pillaging their farms. Now no more white farmers no more food, padan muka.
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QUOTE(differ @ May 20 2025, 03:32 AM)
Well I dunno about you la, but I have been to Tripoli before for work. While our movements were restricted, whenever we could go out of the hotel then we saw mostly Arab-looking people, but again with darker complexion.

That was in early 2010s though. When was the last time you were there?
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I live in Subang Jaya in all my lifetime, which means the entire Malaysia is Chinese majority, right?

If follow your logic.
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post May 21 2025, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(smsid @ May 20 2025, 08:55 AM)
I live in Subang Jaya in all my lifetime, which means the entire Malaysia is Chinese majority, right?

If follow your logic.
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Well, according to Libya demographics, 92% are Arabs. Plus I've been to their biggest city before.

So ya, I would say that the assumption that majority of them don't look like Sub Saharan Africans is quite correct la.
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post May 21 2025, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(differ @ May 21 2025, 02:13 PM)
Well, according to Libya demographics, 92% are Arabs. Plus I've been to their biggest city before.

So ya, I would say that the assumption that majority of them don't look like Sub Saharan Africans is quite correct la.
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Lol, you are right, but if you look at the pictures in google "Libya people", it looked more like African than Arab for me, hahaha.

My bad, you are 100% correct.

Sudan also majority is Arabs, I have no idea, look more like African for me.

 

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