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post May 12 2025, 06:34 PM, updated 8 months ago

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Household Numbers. Real stuff, not sembang kencang.

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Guess my 12k celery ain't that bad after all.
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post May 12 2025, 06:36 PM

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there are a lot of T0 also, those earn above 50k and some even 6 figures per month
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post May 12 2025, 06:37 PM

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post May 12 2025, 06:37 PM

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T20 (t11 - T20) with children, live worst than b40 single

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37K permonth tu T1??
LOL
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ May 12 2025, 06:34 PM)
Household Numbers. Real stuff, not sembang kencang.

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Guess my 12k celery ain't that bad after all.
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bro... you are technically in T05 to T01.... because the stats is for household, where the average household has 2 adults and both working. (if it is still the same dataset as before).

so your salary of 12K per pax is really 24K per household!

congrats man for being in T05!!!!
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post May 12 2025, 06:40 PM

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TS, where is this coming from ?
tomorrow show this graph to my boss first.
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post May 12 2025, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(limfreelance @ May 12 2025, 06:38 PM)
37K permonth tu T1??
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if hubby and wifey combined earn more than 37K rm pm, then yes... T01... rclxm9.gif
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post May 12 2025, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ May 12 2025, 06:36 PM)
there are a lot of T0 also, those earn above 50k and some even 6 figures per month
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What is T0?
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post May 12 2025, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ May 12 2025, 06:36 PM)
there are a lot of T0 also, those earn above 50k and some even 6 figures per month
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of course if you take for example 0.1% out of 33 million malaysians, that's still 33000 people
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post May 12 2025, 06:42 PM

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In /k 15k per month also have to agonize EVERYDAY about what car to buy and complain no savings cause wife took all the pay.

Don't feel like puak T at all
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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 12 2025, 06:42 PM)
In /k 15k per month also have to agonize EVERYDAY about what car to buy and complain no savings cause wife took all the pay.

Don't  feel like puak T at all
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post May 12 2025, 06:55 PM

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mine celery at b40 level....
still need to feed whole house....
and govt cat me as m40....
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post May 12 2025, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 12 2025, 06:42 PM)
In /k 15k per month also have to agonize EVERYDAY about what car to buy and complain no savings cause wife took all the pay.

Don't  feel like puak T at all
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U dun. Ur wife feel like puak T saja
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This is only from those losers like us who pay taxes.

Those that lari tax not accounted for in this.
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post May 12 2025, 07:00 PM

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The purpose of this thread is for TS to flex his salary. The outdated 2022 chart is not the main point

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post May 12 2025, 07:00 PM

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Can someone explain the categories like i am five?
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post May 12 2025, 07:02 PM

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Ayam B40 sad.gif
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QUOTE(party @ May 12 2025, 06:56 PM)
U dun. Ur wife feel like puak T saja
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post May 12 2025, 07:08 PM

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This is household income.
If u and yr wife together combine make 12k

U are mahakaya n don't deserve any thing except pay more tax.
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post May 12 2025, 07:12 PM

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This is national level..whole country.

Like in Kelantan, if ur earn RM12k per month, u are very much loaded.
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post May 12 2025, 07:23 PM

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shit. i'm t3. can only afford a myvi.
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post May 12 2025, 07:26 PM

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After call grab I go from t20 to m40
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post May 12 2025, 07:27 PM

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T1 with T20 commitment. Still T1?
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post May 12 2025, 07:27 PM

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37.5k to be me t1? Shit... That low?
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ May 12 2025, 06:34 PM)
Guess my 12k celery ain't that bad after all.
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but are you happy?
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So if income < RM15.3K, get petrol subsidies? They said only affect 10% rakyat right?


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Put it this way, t1 may seem like an elite few (and compared to the others, it is) but there's like 100,000 households earning that.

The focus should be why so many other millions of households earn so little.
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Looks like all MPs are T1, there are already 222 of them.
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post May 12 2025, 07:39 PM

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household?? single guy me 5 figures oso tak cukup


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post May 12 2025, 07:41 PM

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blanket84 from this graph seems like we’re T5

Yet I don’t feel like “T” level sad.gif

Formula Rapiji not working ke ni?
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post May 12 2025, 07:44 PM

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Lol. This is nationwide standard is it?

Those living in kl throw stone anywhere also got more than 8k liao. But life feel like poorfag.
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post May 12 2025, 08:08 PM

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where did u get this data?? 2022
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post May 12 2025, 08:09 PM

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2022 data, use 2024 if any
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post May 12 2025, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ May 12 2025, 06:41 PM)
What is T0?
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post May 12 2025, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ May 12 2025, 08:08 PM)
where did u get this data?? 2022
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https://open.dosm.gov.my/data-catalogue/hie...imum&visual=bar


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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ May 12 2025, 08:10 PM)
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There is nobody in T0. There are people in T0.00001, but no one in T0.

Hence my question and what you are answering is not T0, but T0.00001.
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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ May 12 2025, 07:27 PM)
T1 with T20 commitment. Still T1?
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Not savings
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post May 12 2025, 08:18 PM

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Songlap T1 automatically.
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QUOTE(nelson969 @ May 12 2025, 08:12 PM)
why no 2024
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 12 2025, 08:18 PM)
why no 2024
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I am going to assume this data was prepared using only salaried people, i.e., those running own business, self employed, multiple directorships, etc., not accounted for.

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T2 level this low meh?doesnt make sense..
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QUOTE(hZa23 @ May 12 2025, 08:33 PM)
T2 level this low meh?doesnt make sense..
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2% of about 16m working adults, is 320k. Still quite a lot of people.

All this shows you is the gap from to the really rich is damn frigging big.
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Per household? So meaning.. my household is T20 dy lo wowww!!
But if alone back to M40 each

So income tax better report individual right


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If household float around T5-T10 lettew.
X rasa kaya ponnn
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Household income la dey


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post May 12 2025, 09:10 PM

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Kelate 8 children

8 x 3k each also 24k

So become t20 ka?
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ May 12 2025, 06:39 PM)
bro... you are technically in T05 to T01.... because the stats is for household, where the average household has 2 adults and both working. (if it is still the same dataset as before).

so your salary of 12K per pax is really 24K per household!

congrats man for being in T05!!!!
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Foreveralone household seorang kan? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ May 12 2025, 09:10 PM)
Kelate 8 children

8 x 3k each also 24k

So become t20 ka?
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Wats d best method ?
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 12 2025, 08:18 PM)
why no 2024
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Ya loh.. now ady 2025…
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Who started this T20 M40 B40 anyway? Najib during his BR1M era? Now become a caste system and template to insult people.
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if household, T3
but feels like M40
no excessive spending, cars not changed every 5 years
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ May 12 2025, 09:19 PM)
Wats d best method ?
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Best method?

Kahwin 4

1 lahir 8

32kids

Stay in a big house.
All work 3k+/- income

Household income = 100k

T1
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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ May 12 2025, 09:21 PM)
Who started this T20 M40 B40 anyway? Najib during his BR1M era? Now become a caste system and template to insult people.
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Developed countries how they label / categorise?
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ May 12 2025, 09:21 PM)
Best method?

Kahwin 4

1 lahir 8

32kids

Stay in a big house.
All work 3k+/- income

Household income = 100k

T1
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ May 12 2025, 06:39 PM)
bro... you are technically in T05 to T01.... because the stats is for household, where the average household has 2 adults and both working. (if it is still the same dataset as before).

so your salary of 12K per pax is really 24K per household!

congrats man for being in T05!!!!
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Onli if I have a wife who earns as much as me.. Most likely not happen...
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QUOTE(genesic @ May 12 2025, 06:40 PM)
TS, where is this coming from ?
tomorrow show this graph to my boss first.
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DOSM.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ May 12 2025, 06:42 PM)
of course if you take for example 0.1% out of 33 million malaysians, that's still 33000 people
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There are only 8.6m households la bai...
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ May 12 2025, 08:17 PM)
There is nobody in T0. There are people in T0.00001, but no one in T0.

Hence my question and what you are answering is not T0, but T0.00001.
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Those r god level.
Rakyat biasa use kasta sistem. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Enjoise @ May 12 2025, 06:59 PM)
geross ke nett
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Gross. DOSM always uses gross, if use net, need to adjust every time government change tax rates.
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 12 2025, 07:00 PM)
The purpose of this thread is for TS to flex his salary. The outdated 2022 chart is not the main point
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Lmao... What is there to flex for 12k celery? Old timers in /k will know that 12k ain't nothing much here... Just cukup makan onli...

Plus ayam 40+ y.o. Apa mau bangga?
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ May 12 2025, 07:12 PM)
This is national level..whole country.

Like in Kelantan, if ur earn RM12k per month, u are very much loaded.
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Koret. But I tried finding jobs that pay 10k in kelate, teramat susah.
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ May 12 2025, 09:28 PM)
There are only 8.6m households la bai...
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ May 12 2025, 09:34 PM)
Koret. But I tried finding jobs that pay 10k in kelate, teramat susah.
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kelantan got what pay 10k above?
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Wow I'm T10 with a child but feels like B40 wth
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 12 2025, 07:29 PM)
but are you happy?
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Think am not miserable. Not sure if hepi since here got so many higher.
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Household or Individual?
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QUOTE(Blackops981 @ May 12 2025, 09:42 PM)
Wow I'm T10 with a child but feels like B40 wth
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Agree. Myself and wife combine household is 46k monthly but with 2 kids education and expenses, doesn’t seems like a lot living in KL
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Lanciao graph. So many undocumented t05 like that

I know a fucker. Nv declare income tax. Own a 20+ room unit bungalow illegally set up to hostel opposite PPUM rent to doctors there.
Each room charge 800 + and he has 2 bungalows there

He also has b40 card bantuan peduli sihat all sorts

When lining up buy groceries. So many aunties uncles use the b40 card to claim groceries and then unload to lexus vellfire

This graph thing has got to stop. Its grossly inaccurate bec many dont report their side income and income. All claim to be retired or jobless.

Klang valley has alot of rich people. It doesnt matter type M C or I.


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where did u get this data?? 2022
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DOSM. 2022.
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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ May 12 2025, 09:21 PM)
Who started this T20 M40 B40 anyway? Najib during his BR1M era? Now become a caste system and template to insult people.
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Btul tu bai.... Government wants us to start class war, so that they can continue to not deliver promises.
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Minsters all T1, cukur.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 12 2025, 07:41 PM)
blanket84 from this graph seems like we’re T5

Yet I don’t feel like “T” level sad.gif

Formula Rapiji not working ke ni?
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Goes to show how poor Malaysian are. T5, but nak beli TV 55” pon pikir spuluh kali. Belum cakap pasal kereta lagi. 10 bulan bukak thread kereta hari2.
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ May 12 2025, 09:46 PM)
Think am not miserable. Not sure if hepi since here got so many higher.
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if you're not happy, you are same as other B40. sorry to say the truth.
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cukur /ktard 20k per month is standard T5
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this categorisation damn sohai

totally useless
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Only 5% of people earning more than 15k a month correct or not? That day I sat at sunway 163 mall waiting for grab, I lost count of how many people were getting in and out from their chauffeur driven alphart…
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damn im on T1?
should T1 further split?
why i find so many ppl living better than me?
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ May 12 2025, 07:55 PM)
mine celery at b40 level....
still need to feed whole house....
and govt cat me as m40....
cb.....
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ May 12 2025, 06:40 PM)
if hubby and wifey combined earn more than 37K rm pm, then yes... T01...  rclxm9.gif
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Malaysians salary so low
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household t2 also feel like b40
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 13 2025, 12:02 AM)
Malaysians salary so low
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yeah.... some see the numbers and just shiok sendiri at T10 and above... but in reality, even T10 is like B40 in SG after conversion.... console.gif
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Msia GDP per capita is in the league of CCP, Russia

which is nothing near impressive

so why Msians butthurt over O'Reilly remarks? Especially those brainless T1s keep saying they can buy Tesla iPhone oversea trips, did those idiots even know what O'Reilly really said


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I'm so high up in the T group but i don't feel that comfortable at all and all my neighbours confirmed looked much more richer hahaha and confirmed i feel majority of the people i see around me are living better than me lol
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according to here i work 3 jobs im between T3 and T2. But i still feel not super rich. This is correct or not wtf
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Msia GDP per capita is in the league of CCP, Russia

which is nothing near impressive

so why Msians butthurt over O'Reilly remarks? Especially those brainless T1s keep saying they can buy Tesla iPhone oversea trips, did those idiots even know what O'Reilly really said
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the biggest problem i have with household income is that one person earning X amount is VERY different with two people each earning half that.
Unless of course if both are earning say 50k.
But for say /k's salary of 20k, it makes a huge difference if one is earning 20k vs husband and wife earning 10k each.

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the business man and woman doesnt go by these chart.. this is real problem that gomen doesnt has a clue on how to tax the real rich or they themselves are one..
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why must the statistics be based on household income? Easier if just based on per taxpayer
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37K permonth tu T1??
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there alot of people earning 30k + not even paying tax
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Only losers rely on their wives to make more money

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damn im on T1?
should T1 further split?
why i find so many ppl living better than me?
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Saving so much, want take money with you to neither world? tongue.gif
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37k per month for one person is quite impressive. But household income is quite achievable for T1 household income .
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Some people under declare their income.
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m40, but miskin bandar. sobs.
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What is T0?
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damn im on T1?
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why i find so many ppl living better than me?
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Household Numbers. Real stuff, not sembang kencang.

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Guess my 12k celery ain't that bad after all.
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I question the validity of that chart. RM37k per month for T1 is quite low. There are many people I personally know that earns much more than that.
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T1 doesn't feel like what common Rakyat feels it should be. Rakyat thinks it's big bungalow enjoy life big car shopping everyday.

What it really feels like is you have the same life as the T20 group with a little more control and breathing space when it comes to financials. You still have problems, but you get options to choose what kind of problem you get.
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104,127 sinkies earning above RM1m per year chargeable income of which 8,847 earn above S$1m per year in FY 2023.

Bolehland T1 (top 42000) only earn RM340k and above.
https://data.gov.my/dashboard/income-taxation

In sinkieland, 642,415 earn above RM330k (S$100k) in Fy 2023.
https://data.gov.sg/datasets?agencies=Inlan...ExplorerPage=62

Ouch.

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QUOTE(godhpf @ May 13 2025, 12:43 AM)
the biggest problem i have with household income is that one person earning X amount is VERY different with two people each earning half that.
Unless of course if both are earning say 50k.
But for say /k's salary of 20k, it makes a huge difference if one is earning 20k vs husband and wife earning 10k each.
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Pays a lot more tax if single person making 20k lor.
Let's say RM 10k per month, roughly taxable income = 70k => 3,700 income tax. Two persons = RM 7,400
RM20k per month, taxable income = 140k (actual will be higher, less reliefs compared to two) = RM 19,400.

More than double.
For example only ya.

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QUOTE(godhpf @ May 13 2025, 12:43 AM)
the biggest problem i have with household income is that one person earning X amount is VERY different with two people each earning half that.
Unless of course if both are earning say 50k.
But for say /k's salary of 20k, it makes a huge difference if one is earning 20k vs husband and wife earning 10k each.
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You mean the single income one have it tougher? Tax on someone earning 20k vs two 10k is also very different.
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QUOTE(ridin @ May 13 2025, 11:52 AM)
I question the validity of that chart. RM37k per month for T1 is quite low. There are many people I personally know that earns much more than that.
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Obviously that O Really mistook MY as Indonesia lah, Obama lah, USD5K GDP/Capita.
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While that is true, it doesn't really change the fact Malaysians are poor. Coupled with this chart, to confirm his statement. It's even worse because Malaysia is so unknown to him until mistook us as our neighbor (not the T20 neighbor)
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kinda agree to that ...
i also feel like b40 despite some see what i earn as more towards m40 (mid to upper tier)

until now still no home no car no bini
but money savings also not alot like that ... bayar insurance (fucking insurance is killing me) for myself mum and dad also eat like almost 40% of my salary d ..
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ May 13 2025, 11:54 AM)
104,127 sinkies earning above RM1m per year chargeable income of which 8,847 earn above S$1m per year in FY 2023.

Bolehland T1 (top 42000) only earn RM340k and above.
https://data.gov.my/dashboard/income-taxation

In sinkieland, 642,415 earn above RM330k (S$100k) in Fy 2023.
https://data.gov.sg/datasets?agencies=Inlan...ExplorerPage=62

Ouch.
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thanks for the SG data....

ok lar... our ex-FM LGE mentioned before that there is around 2000 taxpayers here earning more than 2 million ringgit pa. not great, but ok lar... the big corps in Malaysia's CEO and c-suite would cover like many of these people?
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TS main purpose is to showoff his 12k salary
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QUOTE(steevan1000 @ May 13 2025, 12:09 PM)
TS main purpose is to showoff his 12k salary
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Actually it is just top10% and B90....

Not much difference for those in the m80... It is a struggle anyway. And the B10 or B90... All does not compare to the T10.
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ May 13 2025, 11:54 AM)
104,127 sinkies earning above RM1m per year chargeable income of which 8,847 earn above S$1m per year in FY 2023.

Bolehland T1 (top 42000) only earn RM340k and above.
https://data.gov.my/dashboard/income-taxation

In sinkieland, 642,415 earn above RM330k (S$100k) in Fy 2023.
https://data.gov.sg/datasets?agencies=Inlan...ExplorerPage=62

Ouch.
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I kinda confuse, why are you comparing 100K SGD vs our T1? The comparison should be T1 with T1 there, right?
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ May 13 2025, 11:54 AM)
104,127 sinkies earning above RM1m per year chargeable income of which 8,847 earn above S$1m per year in FY 2023.

Bolehland T1 (top 42000) only earn RM340k and above.
https://data.gov.my/dashboard/income-taxation

In sinkieland, 642,415 earn above RM330k (S$100k) in Fy 2023.
https://data.gov.sg/datasets?agencies=Inlan...ExplorerPage=62

Ouch.
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The worst part about earning in Malaysia is the tax.

For example Singapore earning 100k SGD still only 11.5% tax. A Malaysian earning 100k MYR is already hit with a crazy tax rate of 25%. Really double ouch.
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QUOTE(MGM @ May 13 2025, 12:36 AM)
Obviously that O Really mistook MY as Indonesia lah, Obama lah, USD5K GDP/Capita.
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Compare with Indon, Still doesn't make us more superior

Indon busuk2 also Asean biggest economy ok
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QUOTE(ridin @ May 13 2025, 11:52 AM)
I question the validity of that chart. RM37k per month for T1 is quite low. There are many people I personally know that earns much more than that.
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This is not including those business owners

This is just for those regular salary earners
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This is not including those business owners

This is just for those regular salary earners
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business owner earn a lot meh?

private doctors earn minimum 50k a month, one of my family friend 150k a month as urologist
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business owner earn a lot meh?

private doctors earn minimum 50k a month, one of my family friend 150k a month as urologist
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lol its not a competition

I am just explaining why the chart might not be 100% accurate.

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This is not including those business owners

This is just for those regular salary earners
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The thing is circle of life. Not everyone knows or interact with T1 all the time or that at all.
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Based on 2022 data ???
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lol its not a competition

I am just explaining why the chart might not be 100% accurate.
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true true

i agree, 30k does seem very low.

if true means we are really a poor country

but then everywhere i see still got mercedes, bmw and porsches
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ May 13 2025, 11:54 AM)
104,127 sinkies earning above RM1m per year chargeable income of which 8,847 earn above S$1m per year in FY 2023.

Bolehland T1 (top 42000) only earn RM340k and above.
https://data.gov.my/dashboard/income-taxation

In sinkieland, 642,415 earn above RM330k (S$100k) in Fy 2023.
https://data.gov.sg/datasets?agencies=Inlan...ExplorerPage=62

Ouch.
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I think going by income tax paid is more reflective… crazy only 4,187,743 taxpayers* in Malaysia in 2022… So few…

You guys want to reach top 1% u got to earn at least rm340k pa…
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Its 4.1m tax filings. I assume many are joint filings.
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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ May 13 2025, 02:14 PM)
true true

i agree, 30k does seem very low.

if true means we are really a poor country

but then everywhere i see still got mercedes, bmw and porsches
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Majority r x rich. Huge income divide.

Use lhdn figures more reflective.

Total tax payers ( employee& biz ppl) 4,187,743 - 4,145,865 ( 99%) = 41,878 these r top 1% tax payers in Msia in 2022… these r d ppl driving posh cars etc? cool2.gif

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Its 4.1m tax filings. I assume many are joint filings.
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Its 4.1m tax filings. I assume many are joint filings.
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I think the household is a bit misleading. It should be individual, there are also singles who earned a lot, not every family joint filings since the relief is close to none, and the government removing each and every item every year.
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Which quadrant got more single people? brows.gif
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there are a lot of T0 also, those earn above 50k and some even 6 figures per month
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Wow straight T1 but I don’t feel it
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T1 starts with rm340k pa… entry level… if u sole bread earner who breeds a lot then sendiri kira own downgraded kasta… tongue.gif

In real life oso tengok where u stay, KV std of living more jialat… sweat.gif
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Which quadrant got more single people? brows.gif
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U brahmin?  wub.gif
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This is not including those business owners

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Bolehland T1 (top 42000) only earn RM340k and above.
https://data.gov.my/dashboard/income-taxation

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if wife and hubby....each with 7K gaji... that already T20....but if ada two school going kids...stay in KL...u will damn poor compare to M40 staying in outskirt...
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Have checked, if join the caste system only can apply for Vaishyas brows.gif
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wah.....household unker become T2 jor.

if sendiri b40....so what catergori unker in?
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ May 13 2025, 11:54 AM)
104,127 sinkies earning above RM1m per year chargeable income of which 8,847 earn above S$1m per year in FY 2023.

Bolehland T1 (top 42000) only earn RM340k and above.
https://data.gov.my/dashboard/income-taxation

In sinkieland, 642,415 earn above RM330k (S$100k) in Fy 2023.
https://data.gov.sg/datasets?agencies=Inlan...ExplorerPage=62

Ouch.
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That’s mean the real t5 ppl, all the company ceos/directors/politicos they never declared income tax.
Sad but true.
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hmm.gif … merchant  brows.gif or farmer..  rolleyes.gif
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I kinda confuse, why are you comparing 100K SGD vs our T1? The comparison should be T1 with T1 there, right?
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This is before or after tax?
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This is before or after tax?
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Exactly my question

In delima if I am t3 or t20

But actual feel is b40
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What's the source? Legit mou?

But data as of 2022 only...3 years outdated la

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You know your stuff. I am selling my singlehood as a commodity not planting it. Hope it answers your question brows.gif
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Ts showed minimum datapoints

Here is the median

https://open.dosm.gov.my/data-catalogue/hie...ider=2022-01-01
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T10 from salary.

Pocket money from my family make me T1.

Point is. do good in life so u can be born with good family background.
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37K permonth tu T1??
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That’s mean the real t5 ppl, all the company ceos/directors/politicos they never declared income tax.
Sad but true.
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… top of d pyramid should be T1… and only 41,878 in 2022… doh.gif
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QUOTE(brkli @ May 13 2025, 03:32 PM)
they lazy drill down further.. is can be 100K 200K.. as long as anything > 37K
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If u type in d income u want to check, read d fine print and do d maths, u will know… (lhdn interactive table..)

https://data.gov.my/dashboard/income-taxation

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is this take home income (after deductions) or total income (epf,socso etc) ?


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QUOTE(gamehype @ May 13 2025, 01:33 PM)
This is not including those business owners

This is just for those regular salary earners
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Yes I am referring only to salary workers.


QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ May 13 2025, 01:34 PM)
business owner earn a lot meh?

private doctors earn minimum 50k a month, one of my family friend 150k a month as urologist
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I can attest to that. Surgeons at a private hosp can do RM200k a month.

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If is household, then many family are qualified. In their 40's, husband + Wife both together at least 20k
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ May 13 2025, 02:33 PM)
I think going by income tax paid is more reflective… crazy only  4,187,743 taxpayers* in Malaysia in 2022… So few…

You guys want to reach top 1% u got to earn at least rm340k pa…
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Income tax ignores a lot of low income people. That's just selective view.
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QUOTE(ridin @ May 13 2025, 04:12 PM)
Yes I am referring only to salary workers.
I can attest to that. Surgeons at a private hosp can do RM200k a month.
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How many surgeon versus how many business owner?
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not this cb category again, my salary 4k, B40 according to chart, yet gov said u M40 so habuk pun xde, then wat for this category exist?
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This chart just mean from the 42K tax payers, the annual salary is starting from 340K.
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still got ppl earn 1.2k?
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ May 13 2025, 04:18 PM)
Income tax ignores a lot of low income people. That's just selective view.
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Not taxable…ours almost like tax free country … 41k/30m pop = 0.135% tax payers Something like out of 1000 ppl only 1 person pay tax!
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QUOTE(giftfre @ May 13 2025, 04:17 PM)
If is household, then many family are qualified. In their 40's, husband + Wife both together at least 20k
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ya..

Husband : RM5K
Wife 1: RM 4K
Wife 2: RM 4K
Wife 3: RM 4K
Wife 4: RM 4K
Total = RM21K..
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QUOTE(ridin @ May 13 2025, 04:12 PM)
Yes I am referring only to salary workers.
I can attest to that. Surgeons at a private hosp can do RM200k a month.
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should have become doctor la instead i getting b40 pay while having no work life balance haha

doctor at least suffer at the start after a while can enjoy

rest of us suffer only la

unless business owner


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QUOTE(gamehype @ May 13 2025, 04:24 PM)
How many surgeon versus how many business owner?
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Not sure I understand your question.

It's not limited to surgeons. I only know a few doctors and was responding to another comment on surgeons.

QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ May 13 2025, 04:46 PM)
should have become doctor la instead i getting b40 pay while having no work life balance haha

doctor at least suffer at the start after a while can enjoy

rest of us suffer only la

unless business owner
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Many business owners also fail. In fact, majority of those who started business has likely failed. A few of my friends who ventured into business has failed (corporate gift service, team building/event company, etc) We only hear the success feel good stories online.

That guy I referred to earning RM200k monthly.. He has worked as a doctor for >20 years before getting sub-specialized. Now reaping the rewards at late 40s but still working non-stop. No time to spend with fam and kids.
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This is household income ?

So if husband and wife earn RM 6k each, considered T20 ? Sohai classifications
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… top of d pyramid should be T1… and only 41,878 in 2022…  doh.gif
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Mean the rest didn’t pay taxes, so lhdn don’t know.
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ May 13 2025, 06:06 PM)
This is household income ?

So if husband and wife earn RM 6k each, considered T20 ? Sohai classifications
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Its stats. i.e splitting household income by 40:40:20 buckets.

What classification you talking about? Its just simple stats.

You feel its incorrect ?


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QUOTE(ridin @ May 13 2025, 05:51 PM)
Not sure I understand your question.

It's not limited to surgeons. I only know a few doctors and was responding to another comment on surgeons.
Many business owners also fail. In fact, majority of those who started business has likely failed. A few of my friends who ventured into business has failed (corporate gift service, team building/event company, etc) We only hear the success feel good stories online.

That guy I referred to earning RM200k monthly.. He has worked as a doctor for >20 years before getting sub-specialized. Now reaping the rewards at late 40s but still working non-stop. No time to spend with fam and kids.
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My company the person who makes the most money is the head of it. Head of it for 4000 people. And even with 30 years experience he is only getting 25k a month. Sad sad.
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QUOTE(crador @ May 13 2025, 11:55 AM)
Pays a lot more tax if single person making 20k lor.
Let's say RM 10k per month, roughly taxable income = 70k => 3,700 income tax. Two persons = RM 7,400
RM20k per month, taxable income = 140k (actual will be higher, less reliefs compared to two) = RM 19,400.

More than double.
For example only ya.
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ May 13 2025, 11:56 AM)
You mean the single income one have it tougher? Tax on someone earning 20k vs two 10k is also very different.
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Yes. A family with a single income have it tougher because their take home pay is way different.
But government always lump 1x 20k and 2x 10k together, basically penalizing single income families

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QUOTE(kitzai @ May 13 2025, 06:27 PM)
Mean the rest didn’t pay taxes, so lhdn don’t know.
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Grey economy, they dun even open tax file with lhdn rite? like nasi lemak makcik, “freelance” plumber electrician aircon man… cash biz only… where got resit? But the charges doh.gif
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QUOTE(ridin @ May 13 2025, 05:51 PM)
Not sure I understand your question.

It's not limited to surgeons. I only know a few doctors and was responding to another comment on surgeons.
Many business owners also fail. In fact, majority of those who started business has likely failed. A few of my friends who ventured into business has failed (corporate gift service, team building/event company, etc) We only hear the success feel good stories online.

That guy I referred to earning RM200k monthly.. He has worked as a doctor for >20 years before getting sub-specialized. Now reaping the rewards at late 40s but still working non-stop. No time to spend with fam and kids.
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How many doctor/surgeon/etc exist in malaysia vs business owners exist in malaysia?
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QUOTE(ridin @ May 13 2025, 05:51 PM)
Not sure I understand your question.

It's not limited to surgeons. I only know a few doctors and was responding to another comment on surgeons.
Many business owners also fail. In fact, majority of those who started business has likely failed. A few of my friends who ventured into business has failed (corporate gift service, team building/event company, etc) We only hear the success feel good stories online.

That guy I referred to earning RM200k monthly.. He has worked as a doctor for >20 years before getting sub-specialized. Now reaping the rewards at late 40s but still working non-stop. No time to spend with fam and kids.
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90% of new business fail in the first 3 years

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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ May 13 2025, 09:43 PM)
Grey economy, they dun even open tax file with lhdn rite? like nasi lemak makcik, “freelance” plumber electrician aircon man… cash biz only… where got resit? But the charges  doh.gif
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These income may not be that high.
Ppl I know like directors, high risks jobs like divers earned 6 figures monthly
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ May 12 2025, 06:34 PM)
Household Numbers. Real stuff, not sembang kencang.

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Guess my 12k celery ain't that bad after all.
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T5 and above are the real rich household. The rest are poor
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QUOTE(kitzai @ May 14 2025, 09:20 AM)
These income may not be that high.
Ppl I know like directors, high risks jobs like divers earned 6 figures monthly
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Can’t escape reporting lhdn wat if work for legal co… seems like not many ppl top 1% actuality.. all lagak kaya tapi… whistling.gif
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Can’t escape reporting lhdn wat if work for legal co… seems like not many ppl top 1% actuality.. all lagak kaya tapiwhistling.gif
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Even if full population paying tax it is still jz 300K people, whats more this is from the population of 4.2M tax payers. Doubt ppl lagak kaya except PMX having grudge with T15 folks by labeling them mahakaya.
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QUOTE(cms @ May 13 2025, 06:33 PM)
Its stats. i.e splitting household income by 40:40:20 buckets.

What classification you talking about? Its just simple stats.

You feel its incorrect ?
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Correct.

I think most people want the line of B,M & T to be moved so that it reflect better the financial condition of Malaysians.

From the stats, it’s best to group it as B80, M15 and T5 since the graph is pretty exponential.


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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ May 12 2025, 06:34 PM)
Household Numbers. Real stuff, not sembang kencang.

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Guess my 12k celery ain't that bad after all.
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My household income is T6 bordering T5 yet I feel so poor. I really gotta work on my wants and needs list.
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Net or gross salary total for household ?

Data was 2022 valid for now ?
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2022, got 2025 mia tak? need to factor in inflation lol
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before or after tax and epf deduction?
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earn 20k but owe 17k

earn 5k but owe 2k

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to be frank T1 is quite low.

37k means roughly 18Ksalary for husband and wife.

Take home of 37k minus tax and epf is roughly 25-27k /month.


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QUOTE(Drian @ May 16 2025, 10:42 AM)
to be frank T1 is quite low.

37k means roughly 18Ksalary for husband and wife.

Take home of 37k minus tax and epf  is roughly 25-27k /month.
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they lazy split it already 1% also still got like 160K people (income earners).. maybe there is one or two earn RM37K and the rest is RM100K+++ and those rich with asset and or business owner is not even in the list. they probably pulling lesser income but hold many stocks and etc.

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Scale is pessimistic.

Doesnt take much to be T20. Basically if you can afford a normal house in KV and 2 cars, you are already very much in the T20 range already. Thats at least 8k in loan payments per month.

Even T1 is pessimistic, there are a lot way over the 37k cutoff. Basically all my clients.
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should i feel proud of me alone T3 borderline T2. hahaha somehow this kind of graph makes you feel good but in reality it's not all sunshine and butterfly.
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QUOTE(Drian @ May 16 2025, 10:42 AM)
to be frank T1 is quite low.

37k means roughly 18Ksalary for husband and wife.

Take home of 37k minus tax and epf  is roughly 25-27k /month.
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sad.gif why you want to break our bubbles..
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QUOTE(kidmad @ May 16 2025, 10:57 AM)
sad.gif why you want to break our bubbles..
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RM 25-27k is 6-7k USD household income in US.

7k USD household income in US is B30, my guesstimate. So top 1% income in Malaysia is equivalent to Bottom 30% in US.
That's why the government use percentile, cause this can give an impression that there is a lot of rich people in Malaysia.
If they use absolute numbers, it will expose how relatively poor we are.

So there are people here in /k who are not that good in mathematics/critical thinking who thinks T20 earns a lot and have to be taxed way more. I caught a few people in /k doing that.




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QUOTE(Drian @ May 16 2025, 11:11 AM)
RM 25-27k is 6-7k USD household income in US.

7k USD household income in US is B30, my guesstimate.  So top 1% income in Malaysia is equivalent to Bottom 30% in US. 
That's why the government use percentile, cause this can give an impression that there is a lot of rich people in Malaysia.
If they use absolute numbers, it will expose how relatively poor we are.             

So there are people here in /k who are not that good in mathematics/critical thinking who thinks T20 earns a lot and have to be taxed way more. I caught a few people in /k doing that.
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eh u stop comparing with us-a la.. live in Malaysia we follow Malaysia standard.. house 1m 3 storey 3k+ sft chor.. how's much is that going to cost you in NY, LA or California.

the Americans now have a bigger problem to tackle county our blessing living here.. unless your not.
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QUOTE(Drian @ May 16 2025, 11:11 AM)
RM 25-27k is 6-7k USD household income in US.

7k USD household income in US is B30, my guesstimate.  So top 1% income in Malaysia is equivalent to Bottom 30% in US. 
That's why the government use percentile, cause this can give an impression that there is a lot of rich people in Malaysia.
If they use absolute numbers, it will expose how relatively poor we are.             

So there are people here in /k who are not that good in mathematics/critical thinking who thinks T20 earns a lot and have to be taxed way more. I caught a few people in /k doing that.
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Seems like earning MYR 20k is equivalent to earning USD 14k based on PPP, but obviously this is just average and does not including specific location


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QUOTE(backspace66 @ May 16 2025, 11:19 AM)
Seems like earning MYR 20k is equivalent to earning USD 14k based on PPP, but obviously this is just average and does not including specific location
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How so?
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 16 2025, 11:21 AM)
How so?
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QUOTE(Drian @ May 16 2025, 11:11 AM)
RM 25-27k is 6-7k USD household income in US.

7k USD household income in US is B30, my guesstimate.  So top 1% income in Malaysia is equivalent to Bottom 30% in US. 
That's why the government use percentile, cause this can give an impression that there is a lot of rich people in Malaysia.
If they use absolute numbers, it will expose how relatively poor we are.             

So there are people here in /k who are not that good in mathematics/critical thinking who thinks T20 earns a lot and have to be taxed way more. I caught a few people in /k doing that.
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even ignoring PPP (which is important to compare incomes between countries), a quick google search shows US Median household income at USD6.6k per month.

Very ironic that you are questioning people's mathematics/critical thinking.
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QUOTE(Seralph @ May 16 2025, 11:25 AM)
even ignoring PPP (which is important to compare incomes between countries), a quick google search shows US Median household income at USD6.6k per month.

Very ironic that you are questioning people's mathematics/critical thinking.
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My point is it's not a lot for top 1%. It's not luxurious by any means.









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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 16 2025, 08:46 AM)
Even if full population paying tax it is still jz 300K people, whats more this is from the population of 4.2M tax payers. Doubt ppl lagak kaya except PMX having grudge with T15 folks by labeling them mahakaya.
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Maybe those posh cars etc all second hand punya Dunno really dunno..but huge income divide is true thou.. 1 billionaire among d crowd will bring up avg income .. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ May 16 2025, 01:13 PM)
Maybe those posh cars etc all second hand punya Dunno really dunno..but huge income divide is true thou.. 1 billionaire among d crowd will bring up avg income ..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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This is actually mainly working class, definitely not maha-kaya as per the PMX description. True there are those billiun-aire and bring up the average. Income divide happens everywhere

 

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