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Capt. Marble
post May 7 2025, 03:14 PM

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Soalan paling penting....

Have they finished paying for the plane?
If not, can use excuse and just say "It's a useless plane. Cannot even avoid missiles" and stop paying. "Go tarik balik the plane yourself"

This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: May 7 2025, 03:16 PM
khusyairi
post May 7 2025, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ May 7 2025, 02:58 PM)
Lots of misinfo out there.

I've read an account that India used stand off weapons. They have Israeli and French bombs like Hammer/SCALP that can hit targets 70-250km from launch. The whole of Pakistani occupied Kashmir is only 270km from Afghan border to Indian-held Kashmir border.

So India doesn't really need to enter Pakistani airspace to launch missiles/stand off weaponry. Pakistan is not likely to engage incoming airplanes that haven't entered their airspace so the likelihood of actual air combat is very likely minimal.

It is possible that Pakistani air force had engaged the launched weapons instead and down a few, especially since many of those are sub-sonic ie slow which may have resulted in the inflated claims of shootdowns.

Considering the state of India's air force, they are unlikely to want to repeat Balakot and a stand off strategy is a safer option.

Now waiting to see how Pakistan responds.
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Bang, cuba la baca betul2 news..

Pakistan already claim all aircrafts that being shoot down are in India airspace. Most probably after Rafale launch missile (from India Airspace), they never enter Pakistan..
There are confirm report & picture that rafale crash. (That's why Dassault stock price crash)....

This post has been edited by khusyairi: May 7 2025, 03:30 PM
yhtan
post May 7 2025, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ May 7 2025, 02:38 PM)
Both sides engage in propaganda.

Fighters are all equipped with video (gun & missile) which can tape all encounters. All they need to do is release the engagement video to confirm losses.

Otherwise, the only confirmation that should be accepted is where the opposing pilot can be produced eg Balakot or the remains which show serials can be identified. Even photos of crashed plane can be faked eg they use pics from past crashes, not current.

It should be noted that in all Pak-Indian engagements, both sides will always counter-claim.

Salty.
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More like proxy war for me, right after JD Vance visit India and India has balls to do all this provocation, Pakistan military mostly purchase from China with downgrade version and it is likely the US ask India to test China plane capabilities.

QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 7 2025, 03:29 PM)
Bang, cuba la baca betul2 news..

Pakistan already claim all aircrafts that being shoot down are in India airspace. Most probably after Rafale launch missile (from India Airspace), they never enter Pakistan..
There are confirm report & picture that rafale crash. (That's why Dassault stock price crash)....
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Bharat supporter refuse to acknowledge the fact whistling.gif


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post May 7 2025, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 7 2025, 03:35 PM)
More like proxy war for me, right after JD Vance visit India and India has balls to do all this provocation, Pakistan military mostly purchase from China with downgrade version and it is likely the US ask India to test China plane capabilities.
Bharat supporter refuse to acknowledge the fact whistling.gif
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Huh ? Why salah US pulak when the trigger of this war is the terror attack in the kashmiri region ?
Everything blame US. Trump said let them fight
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post May 7 2025, 03:42 PM

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Nope

It's because J-10C is too powerful

QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 7 2025, 02:16 PM)
Blame the plane when it's pilot and military leadership error?
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post May 7 2025, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 7 2025, 03:35 PM)
More like proxy war for me, right after JD Vance visit India and India has balls to do all this provocation, Pakistan military mostly purchase from China with downgrade version and it is likely the US ask India to test China plane capabilities.
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Well bro, at least your mom think you're pretty.
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post May 7 2025, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ May 7 2025, 03:37 PM)
Huh ? Why salah US pulak when the trigger of this war is the terror attack in the kashmiri region ?
Everything blame US. Trump said let them fight
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u are just naive thinking that India go probok Pakistan at this timing without big brother supporting at the back
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post May 7 2025, 03:49 PM

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aah what a messy world we live in
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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 7 2025, 03:35 PM)
More like proxy war for me, right after JD Vance visit India and India has balls to do all this provocation, Pakistan military mostly purchase from China with downgrade version and it is likely the US ask India to test China plane capabilities.
Bharat supporter refuse to acknowledge the fact whistling.gif
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Nothing to do with USA. Trump dont care to join.

Both (India & Pakistan) more friendly toward Russia & China (which basically USA enemy).
Ask any Indian or Chinese citizen; high chance also they support Russia instead of Ukraine (NATO).. sweat.gif

Economically India belong to BRICS. At same time, Pakistan also applied to join BRICS..
Not really under USA influence..

This post has been edited by khusyairi: May 7 2025, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ May 7 2025, 03:51 PM)
Nothing to do with USA. Trump dont care to join.

Both (India & Pakistan) more friendly toward Russia & China (which basically USA enemy).
Ask any Indian or Chinese citizen; high chance also they support Russia instead of Ukraine (NATO).. sweat.gif
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Pakistan is pro China and US, but India is pro US and hate China.

What Trump want is to test the capabilities of China figher jet, u look left and right, only Pakistan has the most China fighter jet in the world.
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post May 7 2025, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ May 7 2025, 02:22 PM)
PSA: Don't buy French hardware

We kena from submarine last time.
We kena again with LCS.
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Dont forget their car too
Malaysian many kena, Peugeot, Citroen

Anyway, what about submarine?
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post May 7 2025, 03:55 PM

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"Its the Pilot, not the Plane", "Dont Think Just Do" - Tom Cruise
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post May 7 2025, 03:56 PM

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Thats billion goes down the drain...in just 1 week
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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ May 7 2025, 03:55 PM)
"Its the Pilot, not the Plane", "Dont Think Just Do" - Tom Cruise
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Dont Think just die . it is the plane and the pilot is just hopeless.

no time to think . the missile travels at mach 5 and hit the plane.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 7 2025, 03:54 PM)
Pakistan is pro China and US, but India is pro US and hate China.

What Trump want is to test the capabilities of China figher jet, u look left and right, only Pakistan has the most China fighter jet in the world.
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Trump already said let them fight, he will not join. But He hope it will end quickly.

In theory, he also dont want Pakistan to fight as there are significant number of F16 plane in their inventory. If it being shoot down by India, S-400. Lockheed stock price go down... Bad news for USA..
It will be a boost for Putin..

At same time (b4 this attack), he hope USA can supply more weapon to India & Pakistan (reduce Russia influence)...

This post has been edited by khusyairi: May 7 2025, 04:09 PM
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post May 7 2025, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 7 2025, 03:10 PM)
Bharat is derived from the name of the Vedic community Bharatas
That is what India like to call themselves today
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oic

QUOTE(pinamorita @ May 7 2025, 03:13 PM)
F-15 record is 151-0
but they didnt tell you those F-15 are supported by AWACS and electronic jamming aircraft against export model russian jets with zero support
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151 missions for f-15 seems low hmm.gif
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post May 7 2025, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ May 7 2025, 02:12 PM)
Remains unconfirmed but doesnt look good on the Rafale fighter if true..

https://www.samaa.tv/2087333026-rafale-make...s-5-indian-jets
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There is still no footage to confirm.

Claim whatever you can.
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post May 7 2025, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ May 7 2025, 03:14 PM)
Soalan paling penting....

Have they finished paying for the plane?
If not, can use excuse and just say "It's a useless plane. Cannot even avoid missiles" and stop paying. "Go tarik balik the plane yourself"
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Tak nak sambung bayar and kluar pattern la tu. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zenix @ May 7 2025, 04:12 PM)
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151 missions for f-15 seems low  hmm.gif
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151 jets shot down
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post May 7 2025, 04:15 PM

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meanwhile.....who is telling the truth?

BharatLand vs PakisLand....FIGHT!!

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