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 French Rafale losses according to Pak media

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SUSSyok Your Mom
post May 7 2025, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 7 2025, 02:34 PM)
What happened to Tejas?
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Tejas is so good so top secret bjp modi plan to use it to attack China only

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post May 7 2025, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 7 2025, 02:16 PM)
Blame the plane when it's pilot and military leadership error?
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Plane radar kena jam, kena jam means it is blinded and unable to detect missile and plane
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post May 7 2025, 02:37 PM

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post May 7 2025, 02:38 PM

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Both sides engage in propaganda.

Fighters are all equipped with video (gun & missile) which can tape all encounters. All they need to do is release the engagement video to confirm losses.

Otherwise, the only confirmation that should be accepted is where the opposing pilot can be produced eg Balakot or the remains which show serials can be identified. Even photos of crashed plane can be faked eg they use pics from past crashes, not current.

It should be noted that in all Pak-Indian engagements, both sides will always counter-claim.

Salty.
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post May 7 2025, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(skywardsword @ May 7 2025, 02:16 PM)
Such an expensive 4th gen or 5th gen Fighter
So quickly already shot down.
How to sell if so easy to shoot down.
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kakaka......aging F-15 still master race never been shot down devil.gif

QUOTE(keybearer @ May 7 2025, 02:22 PM)
PSA: Don't buy French hardware
We kena from submarine last time.
We kena again with LCS.
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wiki says: Overall, the Dassault Rafale is regarded as one of the most capable multirole fighters in the world, combining advanced technology, versatility, and proven performance. Its ability to adapt to various mission profiles makes it a valuable asset for any air force.15 Jun 2017 sweat.gif


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post May 7 2025, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 7 2025, 02:31 PM)
Macam rojak. Looks like india should stop and assess their own failure
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mcm Msia. Rojak planes. I suka I beli.
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QUOTE(abc2005 @ May 7 2025, 02:44 PM)
mcm Msia. Rojak planes. I suka I beli.
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I dono who in indian ministry buying rojak but dono how to use, or train.

Not even tested, wanna attack pakistan. Kan dah kena malu lol
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ May 7 2025, 02:35 PM)
Tejas is so good so top secret bjp modi plan to use it to attack China only

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It's a stealthy plane, just like our stealthy jet engine.
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post May 7 2025, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ May 7 2025, 02:25 PM)
The much-mocked JF-17 turns out to be OP ?
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internal avionics matters

that so called 'cheap' 2nd tier jet sport a AESA radar and can fire PL-15,a missile with AESA radar seeker.
even the US is still trying catching up with their new AIM260
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QUOTE(abc2005 @ May 7 2025, 02:46 PM)
It's a stealthy plane, just like our stealthy jet engine.
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Tejas is indeed very good that's why China forced to develop 6th gen fighters. Cos the current J20 can't cope.

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post May 7 2025, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(pinamorita @ May 7 2025, 02:48 PM)
internal avionics matters

that so called 'cheap' 2nd tier jet sport a AESA radar and can fire PL-15,a missile with AESA radar seeker.
even the US is still trying catching up with their new AIM260
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On paper, Rafale is very capable with low-RCS design, Meteor and Spectra EW.

If true, three are shot down, it's quite surprising.
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post May 7 2025, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ May 7 2025, 03:39 PM)
kakaka......aging F-15 still master race never been shot down  devil.gif
wiki says: Overall, the Dassault Rafale is regarded as one of the most capable multirole fighters in the world, combining advanced technology, versatility, and proven performance. Its ability to adapt to various mission profiles makes it a valuable asset for any air force.15 Jun 2017  sweat.gif
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Perancis is the Bharat of EU.

- Sembang kencang but cowards so surrender cepat
- Pretentiously & snobbish claiming themselves as 'cultured'
- Horny & proud mi amor
- Protest kuat sarahan orang lain

A German joke I heard over while studying in Germany:
"Gott schütze uns vor Sturm und Wind, und Autos die aus Frankreich sind!" ("May god protect us from storm and wind, and cars made in france"). Looking at you Peugeot and Citroen.

Amazing mathematicians though.
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post May 7 2025, 02:58 PM

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Lots of misinfo out there.

I've read an account that India used stand off weapons. They have Israeli and French bombs like Hammer/SCALP that can hit targets 70-250km from launch. The whole of Pakistani occupied Kashmir is only 270km from Afghan border to Indian-held Kashmir border.

So India doesn't really need to enter Pakistani airspace to launch missiles/stand off weaponry. Pakistan is not likely to engage incoming airplanes that haven't entered their airspace so the likelihood of actual air combat is very likely minimal.

It is possible that Pakistani air force had engaged the launched weapons instead and down a few, especially since many of those are sub-sonic ie slow which may have resulted in the inflated claims of shootdowns.

Considering the state of India's air force, they are unlikely to want to repeat Balakot and a stand off strategy is a safer option.

Now waiting to see how Pakistan responds.
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post May 7 2025, 02:58 PM

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Shot down with what? Air-to-air? Or Ground-to-Air?

edit: Samaa is a Pakistani media outlet, just FYI.

This post has been edited by ray123: May 7 2025, 02:59 PM
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post May 7 2025, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ May 7 2025, 02:55 PM)
Perancis is the Bharat of EU.

- Sembang kencang but cowards so surrender cepat
- Pretentiously & snobbish claiming themselves as 'cultured'
- Horny & proud mi amor
- Protest kuat sarahan orang lain

A German joke I heard over while studying in Germany:
"Gott schütze uns vor Sturm und Wind, und Autos die aus Frankreich sind!" ("May god protect us from storm and wind, and cars made in france"). Looking at you Peugeot and Citroen.

Amazing mathematicians though.
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what does bharat mean?

dun forget renault and bugatti laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ May 7 2025, 02:54 PM)
On paper, Rafale is very capable with low-RCS design, Meteor and Spectra EW.

If true, three are shot down, it's quite surprising.
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kuat marketing only when want sell their jet

like say rafale was battle tested, when the opponents are 3rd world libya and mali
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post May 7 2025, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ May 7 2025, 03:38 PM)
Both sides engage in propaganda.

Fighters are all equipped with video (gun & missile) which can tape all encounters. All they need to do is release the engagement video to confirm losses.

Otherwise, the only confirmation that should be accepted is where the opposing pilot can be produced eg Balakot or the remains which show serials can be identified. Even photos of crashed plane can be faked eg they use pics from past crashes, not current.

It should be noted that in all Pak-Indian engagements, both sides will always counter-claim.

Salty.
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I don't think there will be any video evidence. Nowadays, they probably shoot from far away based on radar only

It's not WW2 or even Vietnam war anymore where you got dogfight
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post May 7 2025, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ May 7 2025, 03:59 PM)
what does bharat mean?

dun forget renault and bugatti  laugh.gif
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Bharat is derived from the name of the Vedic community Bharatas

That is what India like to call themselves today
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post May 7 2025, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ May 7 2025, 02:54 PM)
On paper, Rafale is very capable with low-RCS design, Meteor and Spectra EW.

If true, three are shot down, it's quite surprising.
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rafale is no match for j-10c . it is the harsh truth. military insiders know . modi did not .modi should know now.

This post has been edited by issac99289928: May 7 2025, 03:13 PM
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post May 7 2025, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ May 7 2025, 02:39 PM)
kakaka......aging F-15 still master race never been shot down  devil.gif
wiki says: Overall, the Dassault Rafale is regarded as one of the most capable multirole fighters in the world, combining advanced technology, versatility, and proven performance. Its ability to adapt to various mission profiles makes it a valuable asset for any air force.15 Jun 2017  sweat.gif
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F-15 record is 151-0
but they didnt tell you those F-15 are supported by AWACS and electronic jamming aircraft against export model russian jets with zero support

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