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machomama
post May 6 2025, 11:19 AM

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kena a full power shutdown on my prius before - safety feature as engine was already running hot due to fauly electirc water pump.
disco lights came on with audible beeps
what the car did was GLIDE - this is what ALL cars (all ya, be it ICE, hybrid, EV) ought to comply
managed to bring it to a safe, off the emergency lane, stop
not a jam brake to complete stop like what this BYD "apparently" did

i use "apparently" as sometimes actual scenario can be misinterpreted.
highly doubt the tires came to a complete lock screeching on the tarmac, suspect there must have been some form of maneuverability to bring the vehicle to a safe stop.
maybe driver new to EV and panicked upon seeing there's no power at all
can be dangerous especially if one is on the right most lane, rain and in the dark - we know all too well how in broad daylight nonsense can happen anytime anywhere

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post May 6 2025, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(brkli @ May 6 2025, 11:50 AM)
you need to understand. unlike ICE and hybrid. EV dun have gears (gearbox and clutches). the electric motor drive the tyre directly in most cases. as soon as the motor lose power, it is essentially the tyre "spinning" the electric motor similar fashion to regen braking or engine braking(in ICE).. ya, it most likely not the brake from your disc/hydrolic brake, but still braking from the resistance of the electric motor spinning is still a lot if you moving at certain speed.
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lets try to understand each other better then.... biggrin.gif

1. the immediate stop from loss of power
"the electric motor drive the tyre directly in most cases"
haven't gone deep into the study of EV but will give a /k bantai n go biggrin.gif

now, when we switch off a fan at home for example
the propellers keep spinning after sometime
Newton's first law comes into play here: an object in motion stays in motion, unless a force acts on it

am just wondering why didn't the car just glide (since already at speed) to safety
electric motor no freespin?
instead of stopping right there - takes a whole load of energy to stop a fast moving vehicle to an immediate standstill

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post May 6 2025, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 6 2025, 04:28 PM)
It did glide. U can see theres no skid marks to tell that it did emergency brake

Its just the owners exaggeration since they panic because the car cannot be moved anymore after a restart
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ahhhhh........guess as much
initial report stating it came to an abrupt stop most likely misinterpreted

and yes, new EV owners (especially) need to be aware of this sudden power outage, not panic in such situations and know how to handle the vehicle safely to avoid being a sitting duck
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post May 7 2025, 10:31 AM

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how did they manage to MOVE the (seemingly unmovable) EV onto the tow truck?
from what i read...
"Because of the complications that come with the absence of a neutral gear in an electric car, the only way to tow an EV is with a flatbed tow truck."
doesn't go on to explain further about neutral gear or how to get the car out of the locked tires scenario
presume there's a method to switch the drivetrain from locked to free to enable the EV to be....pulled i guess onto the flatbed tow truck

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post May 7 2025, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 7 2025, 10:52 AM)
See the FB pic la.
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perhaps you're good at deciphering techniques from an image

not me
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post May 7 2025, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 7 2025, 11:09 AM)
To make it short, Tow truck have all the design and equipment that can tow any car situation.

Picture tells a thousand words.
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tau laa...tow truck got all all (but actually no also)

how to FREE (neutral) the ev is what i'm tryin to get at
as to whether manually (without power) can make certain settings on the vehicle to make it movable - doubt this
or
they brought some form of auxiliary power supply to power up the EV to make it move
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post May 7 2025, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(guest54321 @ May 7 2025, 12:22 PM)
Ever heard of wheel dollies?
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ahhh yes, forgot bout em

that'll be the last option when all else fails
thought there'd be a better solution instead of this
getting them onto each of the 4 wheels can be tough - esp on grass / soft ground / gravel / off tarmac
since this EV was on the road still no issues

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post May 7 2025, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(guest54321 @ May 7 2025, 12:45 PM)
The bigger wheel dollies are frankly quite easy. Load them up onto each wheel. And then use a bar to lock the mechanism and lift up the entire wheel.
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requires brute force strength to get the tire onto the mechanism - generally tow operators all badan tough no issue

there was an instance had to use dollies for both front tires (Front Wheel Drive), car was brought to safety beyond the emergency lane
right tire on road no issue, left one on grass (couldn't do anything, dolly kept digging further into the ground from the sheer weight of the car)

another tow truck came, powered up the AUX 12V batt with a bulky Powerbank, got the hybrid started and finally drove up the flatbed
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post May 7 2025, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(guest54321 @ May 7 2025, 01:08 PM)
in this incident, car is on a nice solid ground. so don't think there are any issues.

but from your context, I think they might need to use a hydraulic jack or some wooden planks.
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yup, this case was on tarmac no issue

wooden planks were used but to no avail
hydraulic jack (the one they had or even mine) couldn't fit in with the already very minimal ground clearance at site
perhaps a different type (the one with rollers, that also i doubt) would've helped
car was already slightly perched with one wheel on road the other off
point to take note where to "park" vehicle for easy tow




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post May 7 2025, 02:03 PM

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user posted image

just to give perspective of the location

 

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