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 CCP EV emergency brake on highway, almost accident, Guess the brand

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post May 5 2025, 06:48 PM, updated 8 months ago

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https://www.facebook.com/share/p/15QFWeVTzf/

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**TLDR:** Bei Yan Diu Atto 3 (10 months old) suddenly emergency braked without warning on highway fast lane. 12V battery dead. Almost caused fatal accident. BYD service center TAK BAGI FACE.

What Happened:
- Driving from Melaka to Penang (family trip)
- Cheras-Kajang highway, right lane
- SUDDEN emergency brake without ANY warning
- All 4 wheels locked + can't push car
- Other cars nearly collided avoiding us

BYD Service Nightmare:
- Centre gives BS excuses ("no staff", "need appointment")
- Diagnosis: 12V battery failed
- Replacement: RM418 (no warranty after 20k km)
- NO WARNING SYSTEM for critical battery issue
- Previous charger issue still unresolved since Feb

The Kicker:
CCP car got NO warning system for 12V battery failure. Car becomes emergency brake on highway = instant death trap.

Original Text:
Pengalaman paling MENGERIKAN bagi kami sekeluarga apabila kereta BYD Atto 3 secara tiba-tiba brek mengejut ketika sedang memandu di lorong kanan lebuhraya!

Pada 1 May lalu, kami dalam perjalanan dari Melaka ingin pulang ke kampung di Penang dan singgah di Kajang sebentar untuk menghadiri rumah terbuka. Sewaktu di lebuhraya Cheras-Kajang, kereta dengan secara tiba-tiba brek mengejut tanpa ada sebarang amaran atau apa-apa 'indicator'. Di skrin panel kereta pula menunjukkan "Power System Failure" dan keempat-empat tayar kereta seperti di kunci.

Beberapa kereta hampir kemalangan kerana mengelak dari merempuh kereta kami yang tiba-tiba berhenti di lorong kanan.

Saya terus menelefon pihak lebuhraya untuk meminta bantuan mengawal lalu lintas. Alhamdulillah, kurang 10 minit pihak peronda sampai dan terus meletakkan kon di lorong kanan agar kenderaan lain berwaspada dengan kereta kami. Saya juga cuba untuk 'Off dan On' kereta namun tidak berhasil kerana tiada sebarang respon. Tayar pula seperti dikunci dan kereta tidak boleh ditolak walaupun gear sudah 'N'.

Dalam 1 jam, pihak towing insurance pun datang dan menunda kereta kami ke pusat servis di BYD Glenmarie Shah Alam. Jam menunjukkan pukul 7 petang dan saya hanya boleh meninggalkan kereta tersebut di situ kerana di luar waktu operasi. Kami sekeluarga terpaksa menumpang di rumah saudara yang terletak tidak jauh dari situ.

Pada keesokan paginya, saya menelefon BYD Glenmarie untuk memberitahu masalah kereta tersebut tetapi mereka memberikan pelbagai alasan seperti, 'tidak cukup staff', 'perlu appointment', dan pelbagai lagi. Disebabkan hal ini 'emergency' kerana melibatkan nyawa, saya tetap menegaskan dan memaksa mereka untuk memeriksa kereta tersebut.

Pada 4 petang mereka memberitahu kereta kami mempunyai masalah bateri 12V dan memerlukan masa beberapa hari untuk membaik pulih dan melakukan pemeriksaan. Saya minta mereka bertanggungjawab kerana saya perlukan kenderaan untuk pulang ke kampung namun mereka memberikan alasan "kereta pinjam sudah habis". Kami sekeluarga tercengang sebentar apabila alasan ini dikeluarkan oleh sebuah company kereta EV yang dikatakan 'gah' di Malaysia.
Saya terpaksa akur dan membatalkan hasrat untuk pulang ke kampung. Oleh itu, kami tiada pilihan lain selain pulang ke rumah di Melaka dan selepas beberapa kali pertelingkahan mereka mengambil tanggungjawab untuk menghantar kami pulang.

Apa yang boleh saya katakan servis company ini sangat teruk pada awalnya. Mereka seolah-olah tidak mahu bertanggungjawab dan menganggap hal ini sebagai perkara remeh. BYD Glenmarie meminta saya call BYD Melaka (tempat dibeli) untuk bertanggungjawab, BYD Melaka pula mengatakan 'diluar bidang kuasa kami kerana kereta hantar disana'. Saya tidak mampu berbuat apa-apa selain menunggu keputusan. Sebenarnya ada juga masalah lain yang saya telah lapor pada bulan 2 mengenai kerosakan 'Wallbox Charger' namun sampai sekarang tiada penyelesaian. Bila saya 'follow up' jawapannya sama, "tidak pasti bila boleh settle sudah lapor pada pembekal".

Pada 5 May, mereka memberitahu saya bateri 12V perlu diganti kerana 'low voltage'. Agak terkejut juga kerana kereta ini baru berusia 10 BULAN dan sudah mengalami masalah bateri. Kos penukaran bateri pula RM418 dan tiada warranty kerana kereta sudah lebih 20,000KM. Persoalan seterusnya, kenapa tiada sebarang amaran atau warning dan kereta terus brek mengejut, mereka menjawab, memang TIADA AMARAN atau indikasi jika bateri 12V bermasalah!

Post ini tidak bertujuan untuk menjatuhkan mana-mana pihak, hanya sekadar berkongsi pengalaman buruk menggunakan kereta BYD Atto 3. Disebabkan kejadian ini bermain dengan nyawa isteri dan anak-anak saya serta orang lain, maka terpaksa saya kongsikan kepada umum supaya sesiapa yang menggunakan kereta ini untuk lebih berhati-hati.

Sekian dari encik husband (pengguna Byd 10 bulan).

This post has been edited by DogeGamingPRO: May 5 2025, 06:57 PM
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post May 5 2025, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ May 5 2025, 08:21 PM)
"Post ini tidak bertujuan untuk menjatuhkan mana-mana pihak, hanya sekadar berkongsi pengalaman buruk menggunakan kereta BYD Atto 3"

nvm, ts already help him menjatuhkan sesetengah pihak. lel
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This is /k la got what can jatuh lagi
Jan 18 also tak jadi
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post May 5 2025, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 5 2025, 08:29 PM)
how's your eMas7?
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So far ok

Tbf also saw got some ppl kena 12v related issue, either got warning pop up then go SC check, or got case car cannot start at all so guess the 12v kong

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post May 5 2025, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 5 2025, 08:34 PM)
hmmm.... root cause is?
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inb4 root cause is ccp car owaiii

The first case got ccp geely engineer come inspect, in the end macam replaced the DC-DC converter

But recent software update got mention something about DC-DC converter, so may have been something related to software got some edge case causing the big battery not charging the small battery correctly, not sure but hopefully fixed

Heard two or three cases so far, but haven’t heard any after the recent update. So it’s either software related or just rare lemon faulty DC-DC.
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post May 6 2025, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(trusol @ May 6 2025, 12:13 AM)
I wonder if any BYD EV sold this year here in Malaysia still comes with 12v lead acid batteries or not.
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The new Atto 3 Ultra macam using LFP now

Macam the old lead acid one failing fast is a known thing already banyak tered in AU/NZ markets talking about this

Good thing they finally changed it now

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post May 6 2025, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 6 2025, 10:22 AM)
Just read the manual, if LFP battery fall below 20% and it won't charge the 12v battery.
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So prolonged usage below 20% (without driving much, just staying in the car with electronics on) may drain the 12v

Need to be careful about that
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post May 6 2025, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ May 6 2025, 10:34 AM)
But why a drain out 12v battery will trigger emergency brake?
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Not emergency brake, just motor lose power and cuz EV motor so instead of cruise it just decelerates, but probably to the driver felt like emergency brake cuz stopped abruptly and can’t move

The 12v controls the connection between the main battery and the motor, so when 12v gone then motor also will lose power from main battery
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post May 6 2025, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ May 6 2025, 10:57 AM)
But 12v is only for backup if main battery is not functioning

During operation , only main battery is use , while 12v battery is being charge

Got converter to power all the 12v accessories when car is in operation

No way a small 12v battery is responsible for the main operation of an EV during driving
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Yes got the DC-DC converter and technically even if the 12v battery fails while driving that should keep everything running still. Unless it was a perfect sequence of failures here to both causing this to happen

So am interested to see what BYD’s investigation end up saying was the cause
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post May 6 2025, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ May 6 2025, 11:12 AM)
I thought on the 5 May the SC already determined that it was the fault of the 12V battery. Heck even they identified that on the 2 May itself. Surely if the DC-DC converter was at fault, surely that would be mentioned too no ? It doesn't take long to verify that the DC-DC converter is not working.

After this incident, I am wondering will this EV owner intentionally exceed the warranty mileage 20,000 kms on the 12V battery again. Hmmm
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From the half-ass service by SC mentioned by the OP I won’t trust it 100% lol

Now escalated to Sime Darby HQ pretty sure end up later will come out with different response
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post May 6 2025, 12:09 PM

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EV driver shiok now can cruise fast lane nobody dare to come close tailgate high beam



 

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