48yo no documents
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 May 2 2025, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(c2tony @ May 2 2025, 07:13 PM) what kind of cert do that related to the job he applied or just merely qualification? merely qualification. like the other guy said person of his age you hire for his experience but since this is my first time encounter like this i dunno what to decide but he knows what he's talking about when i asked him questions la. |
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May 2 2025, 07:35 PM
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And here we have folks still hung up on ancient academic certs.
In absence of that go for up to date certs/qualifications, recommendations or what not. You hire senior guy based on spm ke |
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May 2 2025, 07:36 PM
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bro he is 48. i already duno where my certs are la if his previous company can give good reference, then accept je MR_alien and Carlos_Santan liked this post
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May 2 2025, 07:36 PM
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477 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang
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Wat job?
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May 2 2025, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ May 2 2025, 07:01 PM) i had to interview an old man today he's 48. I'm not HR but for my line of work my boss usually sends candidates to me for interview because i know better than HR in terms of what to ask. only after i vouch the candidate then HR takes over. are you not able to evaluate if he is qualified to do what the firm needed him to do? ie qualified for the job? so today this guy came with resume but no certificates like spm diploma degree etc etc but in the resume says got. he claimed dunno where he kept because so long never go interview. last position before resign was almost 15years working for the company. reason he resigned made sense but i won't disclose here lah. my question is if you were me then what will you decide? is it normal for old people not to have their certs anymore? mind you this position is not engineering or something of that calibre. this is my first time encounter this kind. is it ok not see his certs but just take him based on his work experiences? after all he almost going to pencen oredi . just ask all the relevant technical questions to evaluate... a cert is basically useless after so many years. having said that, I better go look for my degrees and spm/pmr/upsr certs too. haha Carlos_Santan liked this post
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May 2 2025, 07:51 PM
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I can understand if you lost your SPM cert, but Diploma and Degree? That's the most important certs for any job applications + professional cert. You can always request from university/colleges you graduated Carlos_Santan liked this post
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May 2 2025, 07:53 PM
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86 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: BM, Butterworth, Penang island.
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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ May 2 2025, 07:34 PM) merely qualification. like the other guy said person of his age you hire for his experience but since this is my first time encounter like this i dunno what to decide but he knows what he's talking about when i asked him questions la. cert for qualification aren't that important if the experience knowledge and good personality.like pisces88 said "if his previous company can give good reference, then accept je" Carlos_Santan liked this post
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May 2 2025, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ May 2 2025, 07:46 PM) are you not able to evaluate if he is qualified to do what the firm needed him to do? ie qualified for the job? u also almost 50? 😁just ask all the relevant technical questions to evaluate... a cert is basically useless after so many years. having said that, I better go look for my degrees and spm/pmr/upsr certs too. haha |
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May 2 2025, 08:17 PM
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If people got experience and you still look at old education cert.. sorry.. but really sohai practice if do that.
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May 2 2025, 08:32 PM
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Damn ayam mia cert oso don't know put where liao
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May 2 2025, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ May 2 2025, 07:01 PM) i had to interview an old man today he's 48. I'm not HR but for my line of work my boss usually sends candidates to me for interview because i know better than HR in terms of what to ask. only after i vouch the candidate then HR takes over. Actually what position that your company hiring for this 48 old ❓so today this guy came with resume but no certificates like spm diploma degree etc etc but in the resume says got. he claimed dunno where he kept because so long never go interview. last position before resign was almost 15years working for the company. reason he resigned made sense but i won't disclose here lah. my question is if you were me then what will you decide? is it normal for old people not to have their certs anymore? mind you this position is not engineering or something of that calibre. this is my first time encounter this kind. is it ok not see his certs but just take him based on his work experiences? after all he almost going to pencen oredi . |
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May 2 2025, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ May 2 2025, 07:34 PM) merely qualification. like the other guy said person of his age you hire for his experience but since this is my first time encounter like this i dunno what to decide but he knows what he's talking about when i asked him questions la. Refer to your boss if u don't know how. |
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May 2 2025, 08:37 PM
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Ages 40-50 today is right in the black spot when scanning technology is not common enough back then.
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May 2 2025, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ May 2 2025, 07:59 PM) u also almost 50? 😁 nope... early 40s. why the question? |
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May 2 2025, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ May 2 2025, 08:17 PM) If people got experience and you still look at old education cert.. sorry.. but really sohai practice if do that. I think its more the HR... cos sometimes certain departments of a company like HR is a stickler for processes and documentations. and it is really silly to require a 48 years old person to hand over his/her degree cert. |
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May 2 2025, 08:47 PM
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https://www.moe.gov.my/sijil-spm
Sijil SPM Saya kehilangan sijil SPM. Bagaimana untuk memohon salinan sijil yang baharu? Pihak tuan/puan boleh mengemukakan borang permohonan ke Lembaga Peperiksaan untuk mendapatkan salinan sijil LCE, SRP ,PMR, MCE dan SPM tersebut. Permohonan salinan sijil yang hilang atau rosak boleh dibuat melalui 3 cara iaitu: Secara Terus ke LP Pemohon boleh datang sendiri ke Kaunter Sijil yang terletak di lobi utama aras Bawah, Blok E11, LP Putrajaya, bayaran RM30.00 dengan membawa bersama-sama Kad Pengenalan dan salinan keputusan (jika ada). Mewakili Pihak Ketiga (Ibubapa/suami/isteri dan adik beradik) Pemohon boleh mewakili permohonan Salinan Keputusan kepada pihak ketiga dengan syarat, pihak ketiga membawa bersama-sama salinan Kad Pengenalan pemohon, salinan keputusan (jika ada) dan surat wakil (boleh didapati di laman web LP). Permohonan Melalui Pos Pemohon boleh membuat permohonan melalui pos dengan cara menghantar Borang Permohonan Salinan Keputusan LP/SIJIL/Pin 1.06. Borang yang telah lengkap diisi beserta salinan Kad Pengenalan hendaklah dipos ke alamat yang tertera di dalam laman web LP. Borang Permohonan Salinan Keputusan LP/SIJIL/Pin 1/06 boleh didapati di kaunter sijil LP Putrajaya atau boleh dimuat turun dari laman web LP di lp.moe.gov.my. Setiap permohonan salinan keputusan, bayaran proses sebanyak RM30.00 dikenakan. Bayaran boleh dibuat secara tunai atau menggunakan Wang Pos (Postal Order) atau Kiriman Wang Money (Money Order) atas nama "AKAUNTAN NEGARA". Cek persendirian tidak diterima. Sebarang pertanyaan lanjut sila hubungi Unit Pensijilan, Lembaga Peperiksaan di talian 03-8884 3526/3528. |
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May 2 2025, 08:49 PM
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If the job requires a degree, then you'd want to sight and evaluate the degree. If the job requires a higher level certificate and the candidate has that certificate, why do you need to sight the SPM certificate?
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May 2 2025, 08:52 PM
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afaik SPM cert is only required by govt related job because they want to filter out those who fail or didn't take SPM, e.g. those with UEC cert. So what does your company really need the SPM cert for?
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May 2 2025, 08:56 PM
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Nvr mind, I think I read wrong.
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May 2 2025, 09:10 PM
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Im 40 and I am running own biz now, yes I lost my degree certificate lol, 10 years ago went back to uni wanted to reprint they say have to charge AUD150 in the end didnt do it lol.
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