Urbanisation is one factor that is often overlooked

Applies more to certain demographics.

Like Malaysian Chinese.
East coast Malays going the other direction.

whats goes up sure come down

Tongsan is here save Malaysia

When you get married miracle happens
When you got kids you wonder what happen

- Kumar

The solution is to build bigger and bigger and more and more expensive cities to live in, just like Jungle CT see so many people live there and birth rate so high.

By human nature, b40 want more children to support the family. new m50 avoid their b40 parents lifestyle i.e fewer children.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: May 1 2025, 11:31 AM

kek couldn't last 1 minute listening to him talking.

unfortunately he's just bad at talking (not his fault), just like that lady (forgot her name but she always open her eyes big big when talking lmao)

not only malaysia...

south korea, japan also same.

we need a Coruscant.

Fuck yeah! Turn every square inch of the planet into a city!

Rohingya kan ada

What we need is not kids

We need freedom to euthanise ourself

Fuck kids let’s just move to a simpler life and we just die after we get sick and tired of all this shit in life or before cancer gets us

Bodo hidup nak kids take care then kena cancer and suffer a miserable end

Cmon let’s approve this.


Also, govt expect to couples to provide kids to ensure next generation of slavery continue and we have enough supply of slave to contribute more tax and shit to the gov and business

Imagine one family give birth 6 kids…tanah dah habis then tinggal mana ? ATAs pokok?

This post has been edited by Roadwarrior1337: May 1 2025, 11:36 AM

quality > quantity

This post has been edited by h@ksam: May 1 2025, 11:39 AM

i think bomoh kelapa muda didn't get the memo

he has 30 kids and counting

Lui xukup mana mau anak

It’s a burden to most ppl, and the dire need to provide lots of resources n time to children in this modern age

Even there the trend line is in one direction

revive Genghis Khan

owaiiii

I want babies

There is a reason why politicians of new centuries in Malaysia all garbages… last time politicians all kinda smart (songlap or non songlap) … quantity over quality problem …

As s woman myself, definitely say no to kid.

If you raise a good child is a bless

If you are not, you just create problems to society.

You need 100% responsibilities as a parents.

This post has been edited by nicole_4ever: May 1 2025, 12:09 PM

Skynet is the only logical next step of human evolution.

A couple of AI is better than a few billion pesky hooman. The resources wasted to educate this fragile beings that keep dying every 60-70yrs and new resources wasted to re-educate next batch.

Support Skynet when the time comes.

ccp amoi still not attracted to me. how is this saving?

Always say hunger issue, no job, overpopulated this that...

But then keep asking ppl to give birth what population low cannot sustain.

When it comes to war, not hesitate to send young men go war pula despite low population

Jungle what?

East coast punya is like exponnential increase

Is like 1 become 2, 2 become 4, 4 become 16. If u know what I mean.

Having kids is a luxury

If everyone had money, sure they have kids

Try to reduce the burden of rakyat, sure see increase in kids

Start with getting rid of the high import cost for cars.
Have kids need decent car else drive around in death trap for what

like i gib a fak on a population that i dont exist anymore


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First sentence itself need to be understood by everyone.

The problem is a lot of people in marehsia feel that having kids is like breathing. Just have kids. It is a necessity in life that needs to happen , regardless of anything . No money? Still have to have kids . No time to stop them from lajak? Nvm , still gotta make more.

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: May 1 2025, 01:11 PM

People nowadays are now awake and no longer needs to follow typical life script that people keep brainwashed for centuries.

Too many people think their lineage or genetic are goods, but the reality their lineage is nothing worth at all.

Some of them passed down illness such as cancer and other illness to their future kids and the future kids need to suffer the consequences. It's selfish.

You should know that having kids ARE OPTIONAL instead of a must to have it.

This post has been edited by xpole: May 1 2025, 01:12 PM

+10000000000000000000

Kucing City.

kek. so takut until need code like that level meh

I never understand, how is not wanting kids a problem.

A problem for country to worry because they afraid can't collect enough tax money?
Sure as heck that's not my problem.

Biak few kids let them run on street and using my tax money as bantuan is a problem directly affecting me.

Don't worry Rokek will increase cainis birth rate

Not a problem now. You’ll feel differently when you are nearing death

dun worry, Northern states will cover.
ohwaiwai

The ship is sinking, don't add deadwood to hasten it.

Jokes on you. Deadwood floats better than solid hardwood.

This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: May 1 2025, 01:35 PM

See, "pedo" some more lah. Aiya, I think I better don't interfere with societal destiny anymore, later human race punish me for disrupting the natural cycle.

This post has been edited by Penamer: May 1 2025, 01:45 PM

Men can't produce children. Please refer to the women.

good

99% k/tard posting comment in this thread have no children or not married.

This post has been edited by Rorschach85: May 1 2025, 02:20 PM

....later they also have to go thru all the pendatang n racist shit.....n asked to balik India..balik china

I be immortal if I have kids?

And u think kids are the prevention plan of old age?

Pfff


Lahir 1 char siew thrn u know. Somemore is a 30 40 yo plan before death.
For sure u can plan with your next 40 years.

And dumb fuck ppl argument always like say u feel it when nearing death.
Ohh cmon, the worst case scenario is death, what's worse than that?

This post has been edited by littlegamer: May 1 2025, 04:03 PM

Anak tu pahala....

Taiwan,sg, china also

No money, no honey. No newborn

RM3000 plus salary.

Copilot:
Education:
Private/International Schools: RM 1,800–RM 2,900 per month for tuition.
Additional Classes: RM 500–RM 1,000 for tuition or enrichment programs.

Living Expenses:
Food, Transport, and Essentials: RM 2,000–RM 5,000 monthly.

Extracurricular Activities:
Sports, music, or other programs: RM 500–RM 2,000 monthly.

Miscellaneous Costs:
Healthcare, clothing, gadgets, and other needs: RM 1,000–RM 3,000 monthly.

Rezeki jgn ditolak

Some are charsiew....

I wanted to have 2..then after i had my first son i am exhausted from mental and financially. So i decided not to have 2nd one

worse than death is having dindu abuse when you are near senile cuz one child population society cant cope with taking care of six people previous gen (two parent and 4 grandparent).

Chasiew pun pahala

Isn't this problem affecting all first and developing countries?

Death is actually no big deal.

The big deal comes when you are nearing death with sickness and mobility issue.

You can say committ suicide. Yes. Talk is easy wait till you try it.

This post has been edited by thkent91: May 1 2025, 04:42 PM

yes, chinese like to say give me quick painless death in sleep. reality is most modern city folks will die of a disease with some suffering in the end unless lucky or rich. ktard love to boast "just send me to high keras elder care facility when I need help to wipe butt", world stats show that 95% of world population not rich enough to afford that.

Everywhere is the same, except in countries/regions where no development/internet.

The best gift to your son is siblings, not money or riches or education although it is very important.

But yeah. Many are not willing to sacrifice their time and comfort. I do understand you.

The reason you always hear your siblings, friends and relative bitch about how much it cost to raise kids, how troublesome and tired it gets, its cuz they dont want you to feel lonely and left out jer.

Given any item in this world, most would never trade their family for it. Seeing the faces of of a kid after a long day, seeing them happily laugh while makan makan and travel making memories. Its all worth it.

Allow people to WFH and there will be more kids because parents can take care of kids at home then to save cost.

So got child death will be easier? Ever see ppl with 10 childs 20 grandchilds n not a single one is with the deceased when deceased dying? Tons..just they dont make it to news.

To those ktards, if u ada kids, u automatic immortal.

Or u sick ada child fetch u go, ada child takes care u. They give birth to child for tat purpose saja. Bet u they guilt their child everyday like i give birth to u, i take k u, i give u money, i give u schooling, why u no take k me

Who says one ? Now is QtY better than Quality

Chinese people population in Malaysia is going down fast followed by Indian people population. While Malay people population is on rise.

That's y rempitz berterabur


Paha la

there more bangla then indians , indians very rare now lol

That's your definition of worst.

Whats worse when u are senile are kids are char siew?

Exactly.

Give birth to life, but macam treat them like sendiri punya end of life investment.

Seriously, ppl should have kids when they feel building a family is a joy and have the responsibility to raise them well.

Not as a retirement plan

This post has been edited by littlegamer: May 1 2025, 08:12 PM

Day care cost is too expensive, I bet if gov do something about it more people will have kids.

Poor people can have kids by sending their kids to gov school and go to KKM singgit hospital. But they couldn't afford daycare and transportation which these days become more expensive compared to 20 years ago

Future dark factory with few workers.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/ma...a4e55a95d6c28d4

Aku baru balik dari sunway. Pack gila sebab ada baby and mother expo. Ramai cina dari melayu dekat expo. Mostly pregnant couple. So what this tok kok?

When country has Hugh debt n no longer provide tongkat n jobs r scarce what r your children going to do after graduation? They can only survive from your inheritance if any.

Instead of tax cut, government pay us RM2000 per child yearly can or not? If no government can STFU

tldw, but career stability is no longer the norm. there is no more job for life with guaranteed promotion until 60 got millions in epf to retire. nowday company left and right will suka2 just lay off.

housing also chee bye expensive like 1st world country and car also no eye see more expensive than 1st world country.

need 2 working parents to be stable. but if both working who looks after kids? if one parent stay home and then the working parent lay off then gg. especially if over 35, good luck finding back similar position. housing gone, car also gone, live under bridge.

see parent generation, work in one company same position for life can afford everything. nowaday so much uncertainty and risk.

AI, Robotics, automation and now decoupling r disrupting the world.

Almost every week got this kind of loser tered .

If this , if that ... if , if , if

This post has been edited by nothomobutsuper: May 1 2025, 09:38 PM

That's what helang tell pipit

Usually it's the other way round, no?

It's people who are married or older generation ppl always ask people ''why u dun wan to have child'', ''who takes care of you when u r old'' question.

Unless you talk about radical feminists who keep on harping about 4B movement and convince young women dun give birth, you rarely hear single or childless men or women talk bad about giving birth or ask ppl dun give birth until they are being asked such questions.

This post has been edited by NicoRobinz: May 1 2025, 09:56 PM

Malaysian fertility rate has been under the 2.1 benchmark for some time.

This post has been edited by aeonbig: May 1 2025, 10:17 PM

Give birth and children fight job with Ai?

dulu xde tiktok

Xde socmed

Moto pon kurang


Now b40 nak cari awek pon ,bangla, rohingya, myanmar ,Pakistan lagi Kaya dah

Only the rich or the ones in power wants the slaves to have more kids

Another funny thread. Can see all the twisted ideology people subscribe to.

Before beranak, already straight think of char siew scenario, think of people treating kids like slave, suffering.

Self defeating attitude. In reality don't dare to take the responsibility saja.

Having kids is tough. Can't do what you want whenever you want. Loss of freedom.

Anti kids here, DINK ftw

Even though AI is taking over jobs we still need pipit for the 3d jobs.

A lot of Malaysian Chinese actually want kids one

Just that they don’t want their kids to be born in this country only to become a subservient humans to others

nowaday, baby milk powder cost you RM200 per tin...

then nursing baby, become fully both parent responsibility at the same time need to work as well... so no time for baby anymore...

I have the exact thoughts..a siblings for him but if we going to have it we are doing it for him..not for ourself. Maybe let me recover from my mental exhaustion first.

nah
a pic speak a tousand words


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This isn’t just a Malaysia problem, it’s worldwide and many countries have tried many methods but still no solution.

There are many factors affecting this. It’s not so straightforward give money then can solve already. Even the rich are having less kids and some also do not intend to have kids. We are just more aware and educated now that it’s a choice and an option to have kids or not.

Newlyweds focused on couple-time first
By NELSON BENJAMIN
Metro News
Wednesday, 25 Jun 2025


Tan (right) and Tean plan to have a child one year after their marriage.

MANY young couples nowadays are putting off starting a family soon after marriage, to focus on their careers and finances due to rising cost of living especially in major cities such as Johor Baru.

They say having children, despite government assistance or tax breaks, is a huge responsibility that require careful financial planning.

Most of those interviewed told StarMetro that they wanted to enjoy their lives together first and save enough money to have children.

Nur Mysara Ahmad Fauzi and her husband Mohd Dary Irsyad, both 25, who tied the knot on Jan 17, said they were enjoying life as newlyweds with no plans to start a family yet.

“We leave that to fate. But these days, having a baby is a major commitment compared to my parents’ time.


Mohd Dary and Nur Mysara want to enjoy life together and do not have a plan to start a family yet.

Kindergarten and daycare fees and cost of baby items are significantly higher compared to our parent’s time,” said Nur Mysara.

“Back then, my mother could get daycare for RM300 a month, but now it can easily reach over RM1,000,” she said, adding that it did not include other costs such as medical expenses.

She hoped the government would introduce initiatives so that kindergartens and daycare centres can offer lower fees.

“Providing subsidies for diapers and baby formula to B40 families will also help ease their financial burden,” she added.

Despite being an only child, Nur Mysara said she knew her parents’ struggles in raising her as they also had to depend on grandparents and an aunt for financial assistance.

P. Kamalanathan and his wife S. Geetha, both 26, who also got married earlier this year, said they were busy with their respective jobs in Singapore and saving up to start a family.

“We are young and we want to earn as much as possible to get a house and be financially stable before we start a family,” said Kamalanathan, a technician.

He said they went out to work at 6am and would come back late whenever they had to work overtime.

“We have a plan to save up as much as possible, as my wife would have to stop working when we start our family.

“Both of us are from big families and we love children, but the cost of living in Johor Baru is high and we have to be financially prepared,” he said, adding that many of his friends were putting off marriage to concentrate on their careers and other goals.

Singaporean Jacob Tan, 35, and his wife Bobo Tean, 33, who hails from Kluang, Johor, spent a lot of money renovating their house, so starting a family would have to wait until they saved more money.

They got married on May 2 after dating for three years.

Last week, Women, Family and Community Development Minister Datuk Seri Nancy Shukri said Malaysians’ total fertility rate (TFR) had dropped from 2.1 children per female in 2010 to 1.6 children per female in 2022 as per the Statistics Department’s Vital Statistics 2023 Report.

Factors contributing to this TFR decline, she said, included economic and lifestyle choices apart from the infertility issue.

According to United Nations’ projections, she said, countries like Japan, Australia, Singapore, Indonesia and Thailand have also reported very low fertility rates.

In response to these challenges, Nancy said the National Population and Family Development Board had implemented several initiatives, including providing affordable fertility treatment services, establishing clinics to address male infertility issues and offering tax exemptions of up to RM8,000 for couples seeking fertility treatments.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...uple-time-first