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post Apr 29 2025, 09:38 AM

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I heard that the carrier was swerving hard to avoid a Houthi missile. The USN mistakenly shot down their own plane last year - also as a result of the Houthi missile/drone threat lmao
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QUOTE(chtan @ Apr 29 2025, 08:45 AM)
The role of aircraft carriers in modern warfare has become less critical or useless. Their primary function now seems to be power projection rather than offering decisive tactical advantages. Given advancements in missile technology, even a single hypersonic missile—which is extremely difficult to defend against—could pose a significant threat to a carrier.
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thats why its said American navy are still living in the 90-00s era where their think their aircraft carrier + air supremacy tactics still works. it only works against 3rd rate militaries that has no stand off capabilities or layered AD systems.

nowadays top end AD systems and long range stand off weapons getting cheaper and cheaper for countries to acquire. how would the carrier approach the shores of another opponent when the opponent has access to missiles capable to fire from 800-2000km away? not to mention to stay away from the missiles range their planes cannot operate (usual carrier plane range 1000~km fully loaded). it is made almost redundant, given how nobody in right mind would risk the carrier being hit by sailing closer
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post Apr 29 2025, 09:42 AM

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Russia everyday got SU-35 kena shotdown also no one care
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post Apr 29 2025, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(chtan @ Apr 29 2025, 08:45 AM)
The role of aircraft carriers in modern warfare has become less critical or useless. Their primary function now seems to be power projection rather than offering decisive tactical advantages. Given advancements in missile technology, even a single hypersonic missile—which is extremely difficult to defend against—could pose a significant threat to a carrier.
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I wonder why China still built so many "become less critical or useless" carrier.
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post Apr 29 2025, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 29 2025, 09:21 AM)
US has no problem with money.

Every yrs, you repeat the same debt and high interest figure complain. But your life still goes on.
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This time very different.

Normally when stock market plummet, US treasury bond market up as it’s traditionally safe haven against risk. But recently both stock and bond market also plummeted becoz Trump started a dumb unplanned tariff war against whole world. The fact that US national debts increased 300% in last 20 years is clear sign of bubble forming.
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post Apr 29 2025, 09:48 AM

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Plane recovery from ocean not new. Last time F-35C also went into water. USN also recovered.

https://news.usni.org/2022/03/03/navy-recov...south-china-sea

Likely they will do the same in this case.
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post Apr 29 2025, 09:51 AM

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Cukur someone songlap the jet. Probably appear in eBay later.
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post Apr 29 2025, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 29 2025, 09:44 AM)
I wonder why China still built so many "become less critical or useless" carrier.
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US uses carriers as primarily power projection role
China uses carriers as primarily area denial and coastal defense role

both are very different use cases.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 29 2025, 09:47 AM)
This time very different.

Normally when stock market plummet, US treasury bond market up as it’s traditionally safe haven against risk. But recently both stock and bond market also plummeted becoz Trump started a dumb unplanned tariff war against whole world. The fact that US national debts increased 300% in last 20 years is clear sign of bubble forming.
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Think not always looking at the stock. You stupidly dumb the stock doesn't reflect the business is bad. But your emotion.

Let Trump do whatever he thinks is wrong and wait for the result later.

Every yrs also very different. I read this kind of post every yrs.
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post Apr 29 2025, 09:55 AM

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Proudly Made in USA product!! flex.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 29 2025, 09:44 AM)
I wonder why China still built so many "become less critical or useless" carrier.
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Air carrier still useful as floating navy bases to jump start or connect the attacking point against those countries that don't have long range missile.

If against those big & strong force, any nearer to those countries shores is asking for trouble jer. Imagine those China drone in hundreds flying low near sea level equipped with high explosive bomb under night sky if they within range

I think China need to build it cos they also want show of power plus they don't have like US bases all over the world.
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 29 2025, 09:53 AM)
US uses carriers as primarily power projection role
China uses carriers as primarily area denial and coastal defense role

both are very different use cases.
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QUOTE(chtan @ Apr 29 2025, 08:45 AM)
The role of aircraft carriers in modern warfare has become less critical or useless. Their primary function now seems to be power projection rather than offering decisive tactical advantages. Given advancements in missile technology, even a single hypersonic missile—which is extremely difficult to defend against—could pose a significant threat to a carrier.
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primarily area denial and coastal defense role

I don't buy this kind of ccp BS story.
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post Apr 29 2025, 10:00 AM

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Accidents happen

Only in china 🇨🇳 accidents never happen

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 29 2025, 09:53 AM)
US uses carriers as primarily power projection role
China uses carriers as primarily area denial and coastal defense role

both are very different use cases.
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Its the same thing

Come on
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post Apr 29 2025, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 29 2025, 09:53 AM)
US uses carriers as primarily power projection role
China uses carriers as primarily area denial and coastal defense role

both are very different use cases.
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Aircraft carriers primary role is naval air power projection.

Yet here you claim china aircraft carries main purpose for area denial and defense. Lmao!

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: Apr 29 2025, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Apr 29 2025, 09:59 AM)
Air carrier still useful as floating navy bases to jump start or connect the attacking point against those countries that don't have long range missile.

If against those big & strong force, any nearer to those countries shores is asking for trouble jer. Imagine those China drone in hundreds flying low near sea level equipped with high explosive bomb under night sky if they within range

I think China need to build it cos they also want show of power plus they don't have like US bases all over the world.
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You got to tell that to chtan

"I think China need to build it cos they also want show of power plus they don't have like US bases all over the world."

Better watch your country shore line. Specially in South china sea.


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post Apr 29 2025, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 29 2025, 09:59 AM)
primarily area denial and coastal defense role

I don't buy this kind of ccp BS story.
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Apr 29 2025, 10:01 AM)
Its the same thing

Come on
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Apr 29 2025, 10:03 AM)
Aircraft carriers primary role is naval air power projection.

Yet here you claim china aircraft carries main purpose for area denial and defense. Lmao!
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tell that to the western military analysts who claimed China has no blue water navy, therefore they "analysed" that the Chinese carriers are only in those roles whistling.gif
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post Apr 29 2025, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 29 2025, 10:04 AM)
tell that to the western military analysts who claimed China has no blue water navy, therefore they "analysed" that the Chinese carriers are only in those roles  whistling.gif
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You understand what is the difference between blue water navy and aircraft carrier primary role?

Or u just assume they are the same thing here? Lol!


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post Apr 29 2025, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 29 2025, 09:44 AM)
I wonder why China still built so many "become less critical or useless" carrier.
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Just to show the power and to prove that they can.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 29 2025, 10:03 AM)
You got to tell that to chtan

"I think China need to build it cos they also want show of power plus they don't have like US bases all over the world."

Better watch your country shore line. Specially in South china sea.
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No need. I am aware of this. They are just showing that they are capable, that's all.

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