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marfccy
post Apr 29 2025, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Apr 29 2025, 10:08 AM)
You understand what is the difference between blue water navy and aircraft carrier primary role?

Or u just assume they are the same thing here? Lol!
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i dont think you understand exactly the logistic challenges to actually mount a blue water navy

these thing actually affects the carriers role
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post Apr 29 2025, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(chtan @ Apr 29 2025, 09:28 AM)
Ya, and now seems like the missiles and drones are winning the game here. Cheap vs expensive bulky floating piece of metal. It is just not cost-effective enough.
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Actually, most of the time, I always think US carrier price is too inflated for no reason.

But if it is not necessary, then China wouldnt build it.

Yea, for power projection, mobile platform, yes.

But as the main combatant unit, torpedo that should have render big ship obsolete, is still there when they introduce counter measure.

Besides, drones can hunt drones too. US Navy just need to be creative with their delivery instead of keep thinking of bigger is better.


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post Apr 29 2025, 10:31 AM

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Houthi rebel must possess some serious advance drones/missiles that that pose serious treat to the carrier.... aircraft carrier normally surrounded by cruisers, frigates,destroyers
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 29 2025, 10:25 AM)
i dont think you understand exactly the logistic challenges to actually mount a blue water navy

these thing actually affects the carriers role
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Since you know everything, so tell me what is the primary role of an aircraft carrier?


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post Apr 29 2025, 10:35 AM

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Imagine having to make emergency evasion of a terrorist missile and end up losing a jet anyway. What a failure
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post Apr 29 2025, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Apr 29 2025, 10:35 AM)
Since you know everything, so tell me what is the primary role of an aircraft carrier?
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no no, stop deflecting. you must first tell me what does it takes to mount a blue water navy since you claimed China is using it for power projection
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post Apr 29 2025, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(poooky @ Apr 29 2025, 09:21 AM)
They are wasting time and resource on houthi. This one let egypt, DaGe and Europa to handle. Egypt is same region and has the most to lose from Suez fees so let them deal with it. Dage needs to export to europa so just let them deal. Europa can continue holding emergency meetings.
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Egypt mana ada resource to deal with, Houthi don't target China ship because it is Iran ally.

QUOTE(Sukhoi35mkm @ Apr 29 2025, 10:31 AM)
Houthi rebel must possess some serious advance drones/missiles that that pose serious treat to the carrier.... aircraft carrier normally surrounded by cruisers, frigates,destroyers
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I was wondering too, normally cruisers, frigates has the ability to intercept missile, takkan drone pun cannot intercept

And this has expose the US military weakness, a very stark difference compare to the time of Iraq invasion.
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post Apr 29 2025, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 29 2025, 10:37 AM)
no no, stop deflecting. you must first tell me what does it takes to mount a blue water navy since you claimed China is using it for power projection
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Wumao u can stop tunjuk bodo now and stop shaming your motherland. Lol!


Classification and naval hierarchy
Rank Navies Blue-water navies
1 United States
2 United Kingdom, France, Italy
3 India, Russia, China, Japan
4 Spain, Brazil, Australia, South Korea, Germany, Egypt,
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post Apr 29 2025, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 29 2025, 09:55 AM)
Think not always looking at the stock. You stupidly dumb the stock doesn't reflect the business is bad. But your emotion.

Let Trump do whatever he thinks is wrong and wait for the result later.

Every yrs also very different. I read this kind of post every yrs.
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“Stupidly dump”… it’s not stupid when Trump’s tariff war will impact trade. This ain’t no normal market speculation.

Nvidia just lost billions (in sales and in stock market) as Trump ban them from selling a lower end chip designated for PRC market. Any of this is “stupidly dumb” when it’s based on real world impact of a dumb leader?
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post Apr 29 2025, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Apr 29 2025, 10:43 AM)
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yawns* still avoiding the explanation of how to actually sustain a blue water navy but instead just use generic answers from google that "tells" you some chart of top "blue water navies" without an inch of proof of what makes them a blue water navy in first place

ill educate you abit to do some critical thinking. do the Chinese have capability in terms of logistics to resupply in the blue waters far from their coast? do they have bases globally to do so?

and since they dont, so tell me how can they "power project" when they cannot even sustain logistics beyond their coasts?

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post Apr 29 2025, 10:56 AM

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hooties gonna get bombed again. send prayers to them. hopefully, the americans will be accurate and not hit too many civilians.
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post Apr 29 2025, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Apr 29 2025, 09:59 AM)
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Made me remember playing WOWS, trying hard driff the ship avoiding torpedo ATK.
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post Apr 29 2025, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 29 2025, 10:04 AM)
tell that to the western military analysts who claimed China has no blue water navy, therefore they "analysed" that the Chinese carriers are only in those roles  whistling.gif
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china military is like fresh grad with all good results but no real world working experience
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post Apr 29 2025, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 29 2025, 10:51 AM)
yawns* still avoiding the explanation of how to actually sustain a blue water navy but instead just use generic answers from google that "tells" you some chart of top "blue water navies" without an inch of proof of what makes them a blue water navy in first place

ill educate you abit to do some critical thinking. do the Chinese have capability in terms of logistics to resupply in the blue waters far from their coast? do they have bases globally to do so?

and since they dont, so tell me how can they "power project" when they cannot even sustain logistics beyond their coasts?
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Wumao use VPN if u cannot access google so no need to ask me to explain to you.
This one i should not be teaching u as a wumao.

Ccp has been harrassing and loitering in SCS thousands of kilometers from their mainland and yet you still can ask
"do the Chinese have capability in terms of logistics to resupply in the blue waters far from their coast?"? Lmao!




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post Apr 29 2025, 11:09 AM

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wumao provide gps local
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post Apr 29 2025, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Apr 29 2025, 10:59 AM)
china military is like fresh grad with all good results but no real world working experience
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another typical propaganda stereotype

China is building on what they think is the best for their military at the moment, instead of wasting monies on unnecessary parts

QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Apr 29 2025, 11:06 AM)
Wumao use VPN if u cannot access google so no need to ask me to explain to you.
This one i should not be teaching u as a wumao.

Ccp has been harrassing and loitering in SCS thousands of kilometers from their mainland and yet you still can ask
"do the Chinese have capability in terms of logistics to resupply in the blue waters far from their coast?"? Lmao!
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kek still labelling wumao when no better retort

SCS is still within their coastal range derp, looks like no point talking sense into someone who has no common sense in first place


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post Apr 29 2025, 11:20 AM

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same mandur is it

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post Apr 29 2025, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 29 2025, 11:11 AM)
another typical propaganda stereotype

China is building on what they think is the best for their military at the moment, instead of wasting monies on unnecessary parts
kek still labelling wumao when no better retort

SCS is still within their coastal range derp, looks like no point talking sense into someone who has no common sense in first place
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Oh I have better retort but unfortunately your bait 404.

Kecian u think that thousands of kilometers from their mainland is still within their coast.
Im not surprised as wumaos like their motherland thinks the entire SCS belongs to them.

I have no common sense yet still can make you struggle to plotek your motherland with facts.
Kecian.....lol!


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post Apr 29 2025, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Apr 29 2025, 10:43 AM)
Wumao u can stop tunjuk bodo now and stop shaming your motherland. Lol!
Classification and naval hierarchy
Rank Navies Blue-water navies
1          United States
2          United Kingdom, France, Italy
3          India, Russia, China, Japan
4          Spain, Brazil, Australia, South Korea, Germany, Egypt,
                Netherlands
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nonsense . only can fool the military illiterate .

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