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post Apr 27 2025, 01:37 PM, updated 8 months ago

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๐— ๐—ฎ๐˜†๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ธ ๐—˜๐˜…-๐—–๐—™๐—ข ๐—–๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ฒ ๐—›๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ต๐—น๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ต๐˜๐˜€ ๐—š๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜„๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—˜๐˜…๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐˜๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐—™๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜‚๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐——๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ ๐—ฆ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—บ๐˜€

This weekendโ€™s edition of The Edge Malaysia featured a startling case of executive impersonation and fraud โ€” revealed in the context of the ongoing Industrial Court dispute between Maybank Malaysia and its former CFO. The allegations emerged following her departure from the bank after an internal inquiry.

The impersonation scam showcases the increasingly sophisticated tactics used by fraudsters โ€” including coordinated messages from multiple impersonated individuals and possibly a deepfake Zoom video call.

A brief chronology of the events alleged in the papers before the Industrial Court:

๐—ช๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐˜† ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ ๐—”๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—น ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ, ๐Ÿณ.๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ๐—ฎ๐—บ: The CFO received a message on her personal phone (and not her work phone) from an unknown Malaysian number.

The sender purported to be Alvin Lee, CEO of Maybank Singapore. The Lee impersonator requested her to make a payment from Maybank Malaysia on behalf of Maybank Singapore. This would be a transfer of approximately US$985,000 (RM4.77 million) to a Hong Kong entity via JP Morgan.

๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฎ.๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฏ๐—ฝ๐—บ: She attended a Zoom call with the Lee impersonator. She said that the Zoom call lasted for five minutes and she said there was nothing unusual about the person's demeanour or body language on the Zoom call.

Subsequently, she received on her personal phone WhatsApp messages from another unknown number, purporting to be Maybank Malaysia's President and Group CEO. This second impersonator supported the Lee impersonator's request for Maybank Malaysia to make the transfer of the US$985,000.

She arranged for the transfer to be effected. JP Morgan had held back the onward payment for an extended period. This was a red flag to the CFO that something was amiss.

๐Ÿต.๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐—ฝ๐—บ: Now, she contacted the real Alvin Lee on his official phone to ask about the messages. She realised the deception and instructed a cancellation of the transfer.

๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฌ.๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐—ฝ๐—บ: JP Morgan confirmed that it had successfully held back the transaction. No financial loss occurred.

That was indeed a narrow escape. But demonstrates the multi-layered tactics of fraudsters, and how senior C-suite executives may be targeted.

Arising from those background events, Maybank issued a show cause letter to her and carried out an inquiry on the actions and the standard of reporting she took after the events. All of that is now pending determination before the Industrial Court.

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Source: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leeshih/

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post Apr 27 2025, 01:39 PM

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Maybank's response: https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/753107

Reference is made to the publication in The Edge of an article entitled โ€œMaybank CFOโ€™s sacking-the allegations and rebuttalsโ€ of April 28, 2025.

This article is not endorsed nor authorised by Maybank and was published without any prior notice to Maybank. The article contains inaccuracies, apart from being incomplete.

Maybank reinforces that the matters alleged in the article are confidential. Further, as the subject matter is currently undergoing legal proceedings, the publication of the article also contravenes and prejudices the intent and spirit of the said proceedings. Maybank reserves its rights and is seeking legal advice.


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Is it possible for the CFO of our largest financial corporation to be scammed in this manner? How?!?!?!?
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 27 2025, 01:39 PM)
Is it possible for the CFO of our largest financial corporation to be scammed in this manner? How?!?!?!?
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Kind of sus. Just a call and zoom then can transfer? Even Sdn Bhd need to get the checker and maker to approve before transaction can go through.

This is not normal transfer. Ada udang behind rock.

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QUOTE(Ku9 @ Apr 27 2025, 01:42 PM)
Ahh Alvin I know this guy
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Fuyoh, name dropping. What benefit you got from knowing him?

I also can name drop. I know Johan Merican but got zero advantage.
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If true then shes got to be the dumbest cfo ever. How can simply authorize transfer without board & ceo approval.

The fact that she even requested a transfer means that she is not fit for that position
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Big Transfer money in n out not perform by single CFO via system. Many SOP n staff involve such transaction. I'm sure bank has procedure can't perform by single person
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i believed she has launch a suit to challenge her removal? if so then Maybank will need to spill out the details to defend itself

we can then see the whole story and who is really at fault here
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Why Maybank use JP Morgan bank to transfer money?

Maybank themselves canโ€™t transfer?
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scary leh this bank called Maybank... and the senior management it has...

a single senior management can simply send money based on a personal phone call and a zoom call without proper process... very scary.
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 27 2025, 02:11 PM)
scary leh this bank called Maybank... and the senior management it has...

a single senior management can simply send money based on a personal phone call and a zoom call without proper process... very scary.
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and from the look of it, she didnt feel she DID ANYTHING wrong. Very bangga!
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 27 2025, 01:39 PM)
Is it possible for the CFO of our largest financial corporation to be scammed in this manner? How?!?!?!?
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if CFO like this can fall this kind of scam. she deserved to be demoted or put on PIP
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 27 2025, 02:11 PM)
scary leh this bank called Maybank... and the senior management it has...

a single senior management can simply send money based on a personal phone call and a zoom call without proper process... very scary.
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A lot of things not jiving in the Edge article. As others pointed out, it's not so simple to simply transfer large amount of funds like that, and CFO doesn't operate like that. Better wait for more details of the case
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 02:16 PM)
if CFO like this can fall this kind of scam. she deserved to be demoted or put on PIP
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Kasi chan la macha, CFO is not head of cybersecurity owai.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Apr 27 2025, 02:16 PM)
A lot of things not jiving in the Edge article. As others pointed out, it's not so simple to simply transfer large amount of funds like that, and CFO doesn't operate like that. Better wait for more details of the case
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This sounds like embezzlement attempt gone wrong. got caught!

Zoom video call seriously? Dont have Microsoft Team that can record video calls???
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Have an online video call then make 1 million dollar transfer?

Mean banks have such practise that doesnt follow the process n rules?
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Apr 27 2025, 02:24 PM)
This sounds like embezzlement attempt gone wrong. got caught!

Zoom video call seriously? Dont have Microsoft Team that can record video calls???
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heh. maybank give her face quietly let her resign / sack she decide to dispute....later CBT charges baru insaf

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malaysia's largest bank also can get scammed

but at least victim got VIP line to JP Morgan to block

whatabout common folks, report police, report 997, best case recover <100%
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Apr 27 2025, 02:25 PM)
Have an online video call then make 1 million dollar transfer?

Mean banks have such practise that doesnt follow the process n rules?
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ZOOOM vidio call! dafug! can you see who is other person? if its MS Team, you can see the official email of the other person and if its external, it will HIGHLIGHT big big that the other person is an external party!
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wait so the zoom video call use AI to impersonate alvin lee Maybank SG CEO face and body? wah now AI damn power can do live editing....
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 02:38 PM)
wait so the zoom video call use AI to impersonate alvin lee Maybank SG CEO face and body? wah now AI damn power can do live editing....
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More than one Biden hypothesis...
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Pipit exec transfer sure got multi level approval, CFO level not bind by processes โ€ฆ no need follow โ€ฆ
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something not right with this story.
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If she follow all the SOP nothing wrong
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Apr 27 2025, 03:00 PM)

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Even a janitor like me also know, big decision need black and white. Official email pun takda want to execute
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Apr 27 2025, 03:29 PM)
Even a janitor like me also know, big decision need black and white. Official email  pun takda want to execute
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if Ai can fake a real person in real time video call, surely no problem to spam a fake email
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 03:30 PM)
if Ai can fake a real person in real time video call, surely no problem to spam a fake email
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Email not so easy to fake.
Properly trained employees should be able to spot the spoofing.
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we in the age of AI now, did maybank train their employees on how to beware of such thing? this not only apply to maybank, other companies will also be prone to this risk.
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Sounds like there is a whole lot more to this story
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CISO & cybersecurity team spent months, years making and updating security policies, awareness campaigns to the employees about phishing
making employees do online mandatory cybersecurity awareness training & shitz
only for the top execs to be the one stupid enuff & almost causing millions worth of damages

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Interested to know how the operation execute the transfer?
When CFO message a single operator then just enter number on keyboard?
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QUOTE(knwong @ Apr 27 2025, 02:11 PM)
Why Maybank use JP Morgan bank to transfer money?

Maybank themselves canโ€™t transfer?
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actually most USD TT transfer from local bank use JP morgan one.
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QUOTE(Ku9 @ Apr 27 2025, 01:42 PM)
Ahh Alvin I know this guy
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QUOTE(kiddokitt @ Apr 27 2025, 01:47 PM)
Fuyoh, name dropping. What benefit you got from knowing him?

I also can name drop. I know Johan Merican but got zero advantage.
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https://www.maybank.com/en/about-us/leaders.../alvin-lee.page

QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Apr 27 2025, 01:51 PM)
If true then shes got to be the dumbest cfo ever. How can simply authorize transfer without board & ceo approval.

The fact that she even requested a transfer means that she is not fit for that position
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you got 2 million in savings account, yet you expect CEO and BOD of the largest bank in malaysia to approve every USD 1 mil transaction?

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 02:26 PM)
heh. maybank give her face quietly  let her resign / sack she decide to dispute....later CBT charges baru insaf
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Need to fight back in court lah dey. Otherwise terus mampus her career in the industry.
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Ayam want to buy bank draft for Rm 200 to fill the paperwork also headache.

This one sumore million.....

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Apr 27 2025, 02:39 PM)
Pipit exec transfer sure got multi level approval, CFO level not bind by processes โ€ฆ no need follow โ€ฆ
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Still got but not tat strict. Ppl work in bank sure know..especially when higher lvl "approve" the transaction,apa procedure also can fly out the window..coz approval lvl is senior mgmt.

Btw

U can see here who pretend to be rich/powerful/know all but empty can just in this thread alone.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 03:43 PM)
https://www.maybank.com/en/about-us/leaders.../alvin-lee.page
you got 2 million in savings account, yet you expect CEO and BOD of the largest bank in malaysia to approve every USD 1 mil transaction?
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Kevin max in acc never reach 1m n he equal maybank with cinamen sdn bhd with 10m turnover ma..forgive him la
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Apr 27 2025, 02:14 PM)
and from the look of it, she didnt feel she DID ANYTHING wrong. Very bangga!
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CFO must have followed SOP, got the required approvals, realise scam, now scapegoat ?
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Apr 27 2025, 01:51 PM)
If true then shes got to be the dumbest cfo ever. How can simply authorize transfer without board & ceo approval.

The fact that she even requested a transfer means that she is not fit for that position
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Depends on the size of Company.
RM4 million might not even need CEO approval.
Just Group A and B of the Authorised signatories of the Company, which a working level from Group A and CFO from Group B already can.

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 03:43 PM)
https://www.maybank.com/en/about-us/leaders.../alvin-lee.page
you got 2 million in savings account, yet you expect CEO and BOD of the largest bank in malaysia to approve every USD 1 mil transaction?
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A ceo expecting a cfo to transfer based on verbal is already suspicious.

I think the question is why didnโ€™t she suspect or flag this as suspicious activity.

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 02:16 PM)
if CFO like this can fall this kind of scam. she deserved to be demoted or put on PIP
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The answering of unknown numbers

Zoom call that duped her. Even with advances in AI there could be red flags right? Unless she doesn't know the CEO at all and have never spoken to him

She never bothered to check the payee details for any red flags?

Plus the fact she has the personal number of the person who allegedly instructed her why not immediately contact him

I don't blame maybank, I would smell a rat in this story as well
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wait so the zoom video call use AI to impersonate alvin lee Maybank SG CEO face and body? wah now AI damn power can do live editing....
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Yet people are taking it lightly by posing their faces and body in front of a camera with apps
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 27 2025, 04:24 PM)
The answering of unknown numbers

Zoom call that duped her. Even with advances in AI there could be red flags right? Unless she doesn't know the CEO at all and have never spoken to him

She never bothered to check the payee details for any red flags?

Plus the fact she has the personal number of the person who allegedly instructed her why not immediately contact him

I don't blame maybank, I would smell a rat in this story as well
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I thought no way ai can fake it until I saw this. And take note this video using 2022 abandoned software now the 2025 versions even more power

https://youtu.be/w0Wkhz4G6OA?si=UN34ti5fiH11HIDv




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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 04:26 PM)
I thought no way ai can fake it until I saw this. And take note this video using 2022 abandoned software now the 2025 versions even more power

https://youtu.be/w0Wkhz4G6OA?si=UN34ti5fiH11HIDv
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Ignoring the uncanny valley effect mannerisms hard to fake. Especially if they have a working relationship for some time. You speak to your co worker you know for some time way different from a person you deal with formally for a few times

A simple how the kids doing can kantoi a scammer.

But then again the scammer might have started the call by saying sorry I'm in quite a rush so here is the gist of it. Any issues? None OK pls approve while I head off to my next meeting

But serious why never mesaged him ASAP on his personal number kek
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 27 2025, 04:30 PM)
Ignoring the uncanny valley effect mannerisms hard to fake. Especially if they have a working relationship for some time. You speak to your co worker you know for some time way different from a person you deal with formally for a few times

A simple how the kids doing can kantoi a scammer.

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Alamak now every person in charge of financial have to have training to detect scammers d like Arnold in t2 post #30
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Is Zoom a regular apps being used by Maybank? Why not use Teams for internal?

Then received WA msg from Group CEO and President. The CFO don't have the real number?

So many questions than answers.


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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 03:41 PM)
actually most USD TT transfer from local bank use JP morgan one.
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Sender bank Maybank, JP Morgan agent bank
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1 big shot can just ask to xfer..regardless of whether it's the CEO or what... what kind of process is this
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well, if the CEO has made this request previously and the scammers were already monitoring her calls/video calls etc, then yes, it probably would not raise an immediate red flag because it is a know a validated repeat request from the CEO which usually is within the SOP and approved.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 27 2025, 01:37 PM)
The sender purported to be Alvin Lee, CEO of Maybank Singapore. The Lee impersonator requested her to make a payment from Maybank Malaysia on behalf of Maybank Singapore. This would be a transfer of approximately US$985,000 (RM4.77 million) to a Hong Kong entity via JP Morgan.
My guessed is in Maybank the transfer limit for a CFO according to SOP is US$1 million.
Hence she think she no wrong. The questions were does the SOP specify it need to be black & white in paper? or an email/WhatsApp/video call is sufficient proof as the required "Documentation/record"?

I think they need a better SOP as cybercrime have become more sophisticated.

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Usd1m is only small amount for a bank.
CFO level has certain authority to execute without approval.

But if indeed the story is true that she got scammed this way, she still unfit for the post.
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Alamak now every person in charge of financial have to have training to detect scammers d like Arnold in t2 post #30
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This article appears to be widely shared on LI and is a distilled summary of the weekend edge article

Thinking to buy a copy to read this later.

Could be more to this story
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so maybank fired her for reasonable reason but this lady make hoohaa like its not my fault reeeeeeeeee

wtf
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This article appears to be widely shared on LI and is a distilled summary of the weekend edge article

Thinking to buy a copy to read this later.

Could be more to this story
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oh wow you still buy print editions....kek other day I looked at printed newspaper and realized ("WTF are the fonts so small now")...huhu
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oh wow you still buy print editions....kek other day I looked at printed newspaper and realized ("WTF are the fonts so small now")...huhu
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I read like a boomer liao. Paper far away but not too far

Also I asked my wife about this. She says this CFO is known professionally for being a strict no nonsense rafidah aziz type. Which makes it shocking also that she could fall for this or heck even orchestrate this

Note. She doesn't know her personally only professionally (her reputation that is) as banks are a major client for tax advisory services kek

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 27 2025, 05:26 PM)
I read like a boomer liao. Paper far away but not too far

Also I asked my wife about this. She says this CFO is known professionally for being a strict no nonsense rafidah aziz type. Which makes it shocking also that she could fall for this or heck even orchestrate this

Note. She doesn't know her personally only professionally as banks are a major client for tax advisory services kek
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Yes, KI is really proper no nonsense type. That's why I'm surprised.

But I bet you don't know the CEO really dislikes her and has been trying to get rid of her. Generally this kind of cases, at best you get a show cause or warning letter only.

They took this chance to sack her.
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Yes, KI is really proper no nonsense type. That's why I'm surprised.

But I bet you don't know the CEO really dislikes her and has been trying to get rid of her. Generally this kind of cases, at best you get a show cause or warning letter only.

They took this chance to sack her.
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Plot twist ceo orchestrated this shit? Hahha

Later gonna buy the hard copy liao
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Plot twist ceo orchestrated this shit? Hahha

Later gonna buy the hard copy liao
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plot twist ALvin Maybank SG CEO also in on this con , that's why no uncanny valley AI effect. phew Ai scam not that effective yet.
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Plot twist ceo orchestrated this shit? Hahha

Later gonna buy the hard copy liao
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plot twist ALvin Maybank SG CEO also in on this con , that's why no uncanny valley AI effect. phew Ai scam not that effective yet.
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Second plot twist. The ktard that knows him supplied the spoofed numbers to call
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I thought no way ai can fake it until I saw this. And take note this video using 2022 abandoned software now the 2025 versions even more power

https://youtu.be/w0Wkhz4G6OA?si=UN34ti5fiH11HIDv
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I read like a boomer liao. Paper far away but not too far

Also I asked my wife about this. She says this CFO is known professionally for being a strict no nonsense rafidah aziz type. Which makes it shocking also that she could fall for this or heck even orchestrate this

Note. She doesn't know her personally only professionally (her reputation that is) as banks are a major client for tax advisory services kek
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The CFO is almost Boomer age (60). That day my Boomer relative asked me whether I saw the video of Trump and Zelensky punching each other in the White House?

2 years ago already got filter that allow you to livestream and look like Jackie Chan.

Also, webcam quality still sucks. Many webcams are still 720p. The small sensor will never be as good as a phone camera. Maybe she didn't notice the "uncanny valley" because bad webcam quality is normal to her.

But I don't know why she responded to unknown numbers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3kUXRIEBDk


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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 03:41 PM)
actually most USD TT transfer from local bank use JP morgan one.
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wait so the zoom video call use AI to impersonate alvin lee Maybank SG CEO face and body? wah now AI damn power can do live editing....
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She saved the transaction at last minute also kena sack?

Saved the money
Open up case study for finance industry to learn at no cost.
Chance to review of internal SOP weakness amidst cybercrime advancement.

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This sounds like embezzlement attempt gone wrong. got caught!

Zoom video call seriously? Dont have Microsoft Team that can record video calls???
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If true then shes got to be the dumbest cfo ever. How can simply authorize transfer without board & ceo approval. [U]

The fact that she even requested a transfer means that she is not fit for that position
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Plot twist ceo orchestrated this shit? Hahha

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Yup, the real plot twist is the zoom and call is all valid not AI

The CEO n geng the one want to play her down
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Is it possible for the CFO of our largest financial corporation to be scammed in this manner? How?!?!?!?
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I read like a boomer liao. Paper far away but not too far

Also I asked my wife about this. She says this CFO is known professionally for being a strict no nonsense rafidah aziz type. Which makes it shocking also that she could fall for this or heck even orchestrate this

Note. She doesn't know her personally only professionally (her reputation that is) as banks are a major client for tax advisory services kek
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Not really, I had an interview with her in 2018 for the post of Cyber Sec Lead before. Doesnโ€™t seem much between the ears, like a political appointee or someoneโ€™s mistress type. She was even late for the interview that she changed time twice. I wanted to leave but her PA asked me to stay (quite hot awek). Long story short, I rejected the offer of 12k and a BMW 5 series.

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Not really, I had an interview with her in 2018 for the post of Cyber Sec Lead before. Doesnโ€™t seem much between the ears, like a political appointee or someoneโ€™s mistress type. She was even late for the interview that she changed time twice. I wanted to leave but her PA asked me to stay (quite hot awek). Long story short, I rejected the offer of 12k and a BMW 5 series.
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Ok this is ironic...... Kek
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Kind of sus. Just a call and zoom then can transfer? Even Sdn Bhd need to get the checker and maker to approve before transaction can go through.

This is not normal transfer. Ada udang behind rock.

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Not really, I had an interview with her in 2018 for the post of Cyber Sec Lead before. Doesnโ€™t seem much between the ears, like a political appointee or someoneโ€™s mistress type. She was even late for the interview that she changed time twice. I wanted to leave but her PA asked me to stay (quite hot awek). Long story short, I rejected the offer of 12k and a BMW 5 series.
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thats weird

12k and driving a bmw 5 series....

doesnt seem to match. chinaman company general manyzer earning 20k also driving jepunis sedan only

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Makcik nasi lemak, SOP pun tak tau, bodoh. She didn't bother to email him via work nor contact him via work at all till the transfer initiated. Real bodoh. You HQ CFO, takut Branch CEO buat apa?

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๐— ๐—ฎ๐˜†๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ธ ๐—˜๐˜…-๐—–๐—™๐—ข ๐—–๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ฒ ๐—›๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ต๐—น๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ต๐˜๐˜€ ๐—š๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜„๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—˜๐˜…๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐˜๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐—™๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜‚๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐——๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ ๐—ฆ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—บ๐˜€

This weekendโ€™s edition of The Edge Malaysia featured a startling case of executive impersonation and fraud โ€” revealed in the context of the ongoing Industrial Court dispute between Maybank Malaysia and its former CFO. The allegations emerged following her departure from the bank after an internal inquiry.

The impersonation scam showcases the increasingly sophisticated tactics used by fraudsters โ€” including coordinated messages from multiple impersonated individuals and possibly a deepfake Zoom video call.

A brief chronology of the events alleged in the papers before the Industrial Court:

๐—ช๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐˜† ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ ๐—”๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—น ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ, ๐Ÿณ.๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ๐—ฎ๐—บ: The CFO received a message on her personal phone (and not her work phone) from an unknown Malaysian number.

The sender purported to be Alvin Lee, CEO of Maybank Singapore. The Lee impersonator requested her to make a payment from Maybank Malaysia on behalf of Maybank Singapore. This would be a transfer of approximately US$985,000 (RM4.77 million) to a Hong Kong entity via JP Morgan.

๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฎ.๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฏ๐—ฝ๐—บ: She attended a Zoom call with the Lee impersonator. She said that the Zoom call lasted for five minutes and she said there was nothing unusual about the person's demeanour or body language on the Zoom call.

Subsequently, she received on her personal phone WhatsApp messages from another unknown number, purporting to be Maybank Malaysia's President and Group CEO. This second impersonator supported the Lee impersonator's request for Maybank Malaysia to make the transfer of the US$985,000.

She arranged for the transfer to be effected. JP Morgan had held back the onward payment for an extended period. This was a red flag to the CFO that something was amiss.

๐Ÿต.๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐—ฝ๐—บ: Now, she contacted the real Alvin Lee on his official phone to ask about the messages. She realised the deception and instructed a cancellation of the transfer.

๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฌ.๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐—ฝ๐—บ: JP Morgan confirmed that it had successfully held back the transaction. No financial loss occurred.

That was indeed a narrow escape. But demonstrates the multi-layered tactics of fraudsters, and how senior C-suite executives may be targeted.

Arising from those background events, Maybank issued a show cause letter to her and carried out an inquiry on the actions and the standard of reporting she took after the events. All of that is now pending determination before the Industrial Court.

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 04:26 PM)
I thought no way ai can fake it until I saw this. And take note this video using 2022 abandoned software now the 2025 versions even more power

https://youtu.be/w0Wkhz4G6OA?si=UN34ti5fiH11HIDv
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 27 2025, 04:30 PM)
Ignoring the uncanny valley effect mannerisms hard to fake. Especially if they have a working relationship for some time. You speak to your co worker you know for some time way different from a person you deal with formally for a few times

A simple how the kids doing can kantoi a scammer.

But then again the scammer might have started the call by saying sorry I'm in quite a rush so here is the gist of it. Any issues? None OK pls approve while I head off to my next meeting

But serious why never mesaged him ASAP on his personal number kek
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tech like this , even kevin mitnick also shake head. social engineering at its best
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Apr 27 2025, 07:02 PM)
thats weird

12k and driving a bmw 5 series....

doesnt seem to match. chinaman company general manyzer earning 20k also driving jepunis sedan only
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you should come to menara maybank see their fleet at the lobby
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tech like this , even kevin mitnick also shake head. social engineering at its best
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besides the CFO

I think the scammer has balls and enough information to talk to her
I guess the scammer are working closely or inside the bank industry as well
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besides the CFO

I think the scammer has balls and enough information to talk to her
I guess the scammer are working closely or inside the bank industry as well
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plot twist , what if someone set her up...


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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Apr 27 2025, 06:53 PM)
Pakai zoom? Tot use M/S Teams in MBB? CFO pon tak erti basic CyberSec protocol? Pakai home laptop-ke? Summore whatsapp..
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As of 2 years ago memang use Zoom. Maybe now they changed it dont know
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if CFO like this can fall this kind of scam. she deserved to be demoted or put on PIP
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Big corporates got what they call Approval Paper: board members must sign off.

She can't just do transfers at whim and fancy of phone call instructions.


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Makcik nasi lemak, SOP pun tak tau, bodoh. She didn't bother to email him via work nor contact him via work at all till the transfer initiated. Real bodoh. You HQ CFO, takut Branch CEO buat apa?

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All bank transfers, have approval papers to sign off.

She really fail in compliance.

Damn, how could such a big bank have such a fail CFO ?
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plot twist , what if someone set her up...
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Could be. Maybe they had their doubts on her capabilities and wanted to test her. Unfortunately she failed the test .
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Not really, I had an interview with her in 2018 for the post of Cyber Sec Lead before. Doesnโ€™t seem much between the ears, like a political appointee or someoneโ€™s mistress type. She was even late for the interview that she changed time twice. I wanted to leave but her PA asked me to stay (quite hot awek). Long story short, I rejected the offer of 12k and a BMW 5 series.
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Bigger question is... who's maybank account money was being transfer out ??? Regular client's money or that Alvin' s client own account..
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the fact that she can even do that is kinda worrying
CFO or not you should not have the power to transfer a large sum of money without any approval. Sendiri sign sendiri transfer ke?
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the fact that she can even do that is kinda worrying
CFO or not you should not have the power to transfer a large sum of money without any approval. Sendiri sign sendiri transfer ke?
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could be sendiri enter into system also... ??/

cos any of Maybank's staff didn't follow protocol and just did what the CFO instructed, it also means their process is crap.
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Bigger question is...  who's maybank account money was being transfer out ???  Regular client's money or  that Alvin' s client own account..
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Maybanks it seems

A payment on behalf of Maybank Singapore first
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For those wondering how its possible should watch the movie "Catch Me If You Can" starring Leonardo DiCaprio.

And now we live in the era of AI, this will be more rampant.
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Just a zoomcall can move such amount moneh around like their own.

Really wow
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Could be. Maybe they had their doubts on her capabilities and wanted to test her. Unfortunately she failed the test .
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Frank Abagnale: AI Will Make This Common Scam Much Worse

Artificial intelligence is predicted to be either humanity's biggest boon or its dire finish.

Now into the fray comes Frank Abagnale Jr., security consultant and subject of "Catch Me If You Can," his autobiography that inspired the film, starring Leonardo DiCaprio, about his teenage years as a fraudster.

"AI is going to be a criminal's dream come true," Abagnale tells ThinkAdvisor in a recent interview. "Technology breeds crime. It always has, and it always will."

AI can capture someone's voice without the person realizing it, and this ruse helps criminals gain access to financial information. One route that fraudsters take is forging checks.

Even in an age of online payments, people are still writing billions of paper checks. Criminals are stealing checks out of U.S. Postal Service mail boxes, washing checks with chemicals to alter the payee's name and check amount, bribing private truck drivers for access to corporate mail and other nefarious acts.

As a teen, Abagnale forged $2.5 million in checks, for which he served 12 years in prison. For the past 50 years, he has worked as an unpaid consultant to the FBI, providing his expertise in forgery, embezzlement and secured documentation, and he remains popular on the lecture circuit.

Abagnale & Associates' clients include Bank of America, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley.

Beyond writing "Catch Me If You Can," Abagnale authored "The Art of the Steal," about check forging and counterfeiting. His most recent book is 2019's "Scam Me If You Can: Simple Strategies to Outsmart Today's Rip-off Artists."

In the phone interview, Abagnale advises financial advisors with high-net-worth clients on how they can avoid being victimized: For instance, use high-security checks such as those from SAFEChecks or write them with a Uni-Ball 207 pen, whose ink can't be washed or altered.

Here are excerpts from our conversation:

THINKADVISOR: Why is check forgery seriously on the rise?

FRANK ABAGNALE: It's become much easier to do because of technology. There are so many ways to get hold of checks and alter them. Criminals are always looking for the easiest way. They aren't looking for challenges โ€” they're looking for opportunities.

There will always be criminals who aren't smart enough to know how to get on a computer and make demands with ransomware or commit other cyber-related crimes.

It's somewhat surprising that so many people are still writing checks instead of paying online. Thoughts?

Checks are still very relevant in our society, especially on the commercial side.

I get so many emails from people who have had their savings wiped out because of forged checks.

Doesn't new technology help prevent this type of crime?

All the automation and AI that we're coming up with just makes it easier for criminals.

AI is going to be a criminal's dream come true. Technology breeds crime. It always has, and it always will.

There will always be people using technology in a negative, self-serving way.

Why will AI be so enabling to criminals?

There's nothing it can't do. And things can be done so easily. Criminals will take advantage of these tools, as they always have.

What's an example of criminal use of AI?

If you get a phone call, and someone says, "Mrs. Clark?" and you say, "This isn't Mrs. Clark. You have the wrong number," that's all they need.

Now they have your exact voice. So they can pretend to be you.

They can create anything โ€” passports, driver's licenses. With AI, they can simply replicate whatever the document is.

Will check forgery increase because of AI?

Oh, yes. Twenty-five years ago, a reporter asked me, "When will we see the paperless society?" I said: "When you see the paperless toilet."

And 25 years later, people are still writing billions of checks.

What are some methods that crooks use to steal checks and private information?

There's check washing with chemicals. If you write a check to me and someone steals it out of a [USPS] mailbox, they can remove my name and the amount of the check and put in a new name and new amount and then deposit that check into their account.

What's another way?

Let's say I take a check out of the mailbox that you made out to ExxonMobil for $600. I write my own account number for deposit on the back and take it to the ATM.

That check will automatically go into my account because no human being will see it.

A big bank, like Chase, Bank of America or Citibank, may not look at checks under $50,000. A small or medium-size bank may look only at checks over $5,000.

So it's very easy to get by the bank.

What can people do to avoid being victims of check forgery?

It's up to the consumer whether they catch it in their bank statement.

The law says you have 30 days from receipt of your statement to notify the bank of any discrepancy.

Unfortunately, a lot of people don't reconcile their bank statements. You can't believe how many people and companies, especially smaller businesses, don't reconcile; they don't even open their statements.

So how would they know if someone forged a check?

What's another way that fraudsters are using someone else's checks for their own gain?

They replicate the mailbox key that the mail [carrier] uses to open the mailbox.

In addition, all the big Fortune 500 and Fortune 100 companies contract with drivers to get their mail.

They go to the post office every morning in a little white van, pick up the mail for a company and deliver it.

But along the way, these guys [often] get bribed.

For instance, [the criminals] tell them: "Stop on 41st Street, and let me come in the truck."

Then they go through the mail, pull out a few checks, and the driver continues on.

Please talk about thieves selling checks on the dark web.

Not only do they steal the checks, they steal all the account numbers. If I know your bank account number, routing number, name and address, I can create a check on my computer, and it's going to clear the bank.

So I don't need the actual check. I just need the information on that check. These people make up checks with your information and start writing them.

[Forging checks is a crime] that's so simple to commit. If I steal a business check that's made out to you, using the same font, I type, [a line up in the payee space]: "Frank Abagnale and/or Jane Wollman [Rusoff]" and deposit it. That check is going to clear.

What's the punishment for check forgery?

There's very little. They're not sending people to jail for murder, burglaries and robberies โ€” so it's less likely they'll be sending you to jail for altering or forging a check.

If they catch you, they have to find out who you are and prove that you did it.

In my day, they caught me and sent me to prison for 12 years.

What happens nowadays?

Even if you're caught, there would be no bail. So you probably wouldn't even show up for a court hearing.

If you did, you'd probably end up with probation or community service.

What should financial advisors be telling their clients about these serious issues?

You might have a client with a high wealth management account or private banking account who could have, say, $100,000 or $1 billion in it.

Yet they write checks off that account at the grocery store or CVS for $20.

Companies like Merrill Lynch encourage [clients] to use [their firm's checks].

If somebody [unscrupulous] gets one of those checks, they can simply deposit it and then have access to a lot of money.

What else could happen if advisory account checks are used for payment in stores?

[A criminal] could say to a kid working there, "Here's how you can make a lot of money: When somebody comes in and writes a check that says, "Wealth Management" or "Private Banking" on it, all I need you to do is write down the person's name, the bank name and the account number.

"Put the check in the register, but text me the information and I'll send you $100 via Venmo.

That's another way they can get your information and create a check. It's going to clear because there are so many checks written, and the banks rarely look at them.

What should advisors say to their clients to protect their assets from forgers?

"Do not use those checks to pay for things at CVS or the grocery store."

Also, tell them that in order to protect the money in their account, they need to be using a high-security check, like one from SAFEChecks or at least a Uni-Ball 207 pen, which has ink that can't be changed.

Then they don't have to worry about somebody washing or altering the check.

Tell me more about SAFEChecks.

It has security built into them. Most companies aren't putting a lot of security in their checks.

Almost 30 years ago I designed a check for SAFEChecks. They've never had any of those checks forged, altered or counterfeited.

I built them so you couldn't wash a check or alter it because it's too difficult to do.

Can't banks do something about check forgeries?

There's software that major banks can use to detect these things, but small or medium-sized banks don't want to spend the money to do it.

[SOURCE] https://www.thinkadvisor.com/2024/01/11/fra...scam-much-worse
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Apr 27 2025, 07:38 PM)
Big corporates got what they call Approval Paper: board members must sign off.

She can't just do transfers at whim and fancy of phone call instructions.
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Means she has done the โ€œtransfer first and get signature later processโ€ before.
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Not really, I had an interview with her in 2018 for the post of Cyber Sec Lead before. Doesnโ€™t seem much between the ears, like a political appointee or someoneโ€™s mistress type. She was even late for the interview that she changed time twice. I wanted to leave but her PA asked me to stay (quite hot awek). Long story short, I rejected the offer of 12k and a BMW 5 series.
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The irony
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Apr 27 2025, 06:58 PM)
Not really, I had an interview with her in 2018 for the post of Cyber Sec Lead before. Doesnโ€™t seem much between the ears, like a political appointee or someoneโ€™s mistress type. She was even late for the interview that she changed time twice. I wanted to leave but her PA asked me to stay (quite hot awek). Long story short, I rejected the offer of 12k and a BMW 5 series.
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U mean u got a job offer of just 12K but with bmw 5 as benefit ? I cant even compute this logic
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 27 2025, 08:49 PM)
U mean u got a job offer of just 12K but with bmw 5 as benefit ? I cant even compute this logic
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They entice you with company car so you accept lower pay.

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Apr 27 2025, 08:52 PM)
They entice you with company car so you accept lower pay.
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Not worth it at all lol
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Lol governance policies at it's best

Mine 10k also need at least 2 levels of approval, heck for a 7 figures amount
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Nowaday got whatsapp or phonecall

Just call to verify la
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When CFO or CEO instruct his staff to execute transaction, how many will refuse?


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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Apr 27 2025, 07:02 PM)
thats weird

12k and driving a bmw 5 series....

doesnt seem to match. chinaman company general manyzer earning 20k also driving jepunis sedan only
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 27 2025, 09:30 PM)
When CFO or CEO instruct his staff to execute transaction, how many will refuse?
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its not about refusal... its about following the process and protocol.

can CFO or CEO initiate a transfer of funds, and if can, what's the approval matrix and protocol...
the days of one person alone can transfer funds and no one else can query are over.

So either they fix and blame the process, or.... looks like they choose to blame to CFO.
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Apr 27 2025, 06:58 PM)
Not really, I had an interview with her in 2018 for the post of Cyber Sec Lead before. Doesnโ€™t seem much between the ears, like a political appointee or someoneโ€™s mistress type. She was even late for the interview that she changed time twice. I wanted to leave but her PA asked me to stay (quite hot awek). Long story short, I rejected the offer of 12k and a BMW 5 series.
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Bro, if you wanna kencing also pandai2 la.

Maybank no longer offer company cars. I helped to draft the policy paper, more than 10 years ago.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Apr 27 2025, 09:38 PM)
Bro, if you wanna kencing also pandai2 la.

Maybank no longer offer company cars. I helped to draft the policy paper, more than 10 years ago.
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Well, offer mulut, no b&w. Maybe wanted to test me? Will never know it can happen but I wun work for that kind of money. Getting a car wud also be benefit in kind which I wud be taxed as well. I was looking for better cash offer than current salary of 20k. 3 years later joined the green lanyard for double more than wat tiger bank cud offer.



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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Apr 27 2025, 09:44 PM)
Well, offer mulut, no b&w. Maybe wanted to test me? Will never know it can happen but I wun work for that kind of money. Getting a car wud also be benefit in kind which I wud be taxed as well. I was looking for better cash offer than current salary of 20k. 3 years later joined the green lanyard for double more than wat tiger bank cud offer.
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Scb ?
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Scb ?
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O&G.

Scb only gibe that type of celery to omputeh
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O&G.

Scb only gibe that type of celery to omputeh
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Apr 27 2025, 09:44 PM)
Well, offer mulut, no b&w. Maybe wanted to test me? Will never know it can happen but I wun work for that kind of money. Getting a car wud also be benefit in kind which I wud be taxed as well. I was looking for better cash offer than current salary of 20k. 3 years later joined the green lanyard for double more than wat tiger bank cud offer.
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wait.. so u r now claiming she lied during interview?
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Apr 27 2025, 09:44 PM)
Well, offer mulut, no b&w. Maybe wanted to test me? Will never know it can happen but I wun work for that kind of money. Getting a car wud also be benefit in kind which I wud be taxed as well. I was looking for better cash offer than current salary of 20k. 3 years later joined the green lanyard for double more than wat tiger bank cud offer.
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Green one better.

Tiger bank really downhill these days.


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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 27 2025, 10:16 PM)
wait.. so u r now claiming she lied during interview?
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LOL,I really doubt so. First of all, why would a CFO with past experience in Corporate Banking and Finance be interviewing a Cyber Security Lead? Secondly, a 12K pay grade in the bank doesnโ€™t entitle you to a car allowance, and those middle managers I know who get a car allowance can only afford a Camry at best.

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Apr 27 2025, 01:45 PM)
Kind of sus. Just a call and zoom then can transfer? Even Sdn Bhd need to get the checker and maker to approve before transaction can go through.

This is not normal transfer. Ada udang behind rock.
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u been a c suite banker at any point in life? it is pretty common especially among subsidiaries.
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 27 2025, 10:16 PM)
wait.. so u r now claiming she lied during interview?
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QUOTE(cheokchuanyi @ Apr 27 2025, 11:25 PM)
LOL,I really doubt so. First of all, why would a CFO with past experience in Corporate Banking and Finance be interviewing a Cyber Security Lead? Secondly, a 12K pay grade in the bank doesnโ€™t entitle you to a car allowance, and those middle managers I know who get a car allowance can only afford a Camry at best.
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Got chance maybe its cfo who iv. Who knows? But also high chance sembang kari kencang taufan earthquake lvl10.

In /k anything also can happen. We got kevin so rich but said y usd1m transfer no need bod approval. We also got ppl ada 7 broda/sisda who is doctor, lawyer, banker, o&g, influencer. Also ada ppl with 5000b assets.
N not doubt its real also ada anak datuk in /k last time wat.
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im taking my money out
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 08:31 PM)
Means she has done the โ€œtransfer first and get signature later processโ€ before.
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It depends on the approval limit hierarchy tho. For example some org ceo can approve up to 1 mil and above that goes to the boardโ€ฆ..but still even if its so, it canโ€™t be one person end to end


Oh waitโ€ฆbijan was doing this so maybe Iโ€™m wrong
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Oh waitโ€ฆbijan was doing this so maybe Iโ€™m wrong
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bijan got follow procedure

pm suggest investments in 1mdb, validated and checked by the finance minister then only can go thru ok. proper sop was followed
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 08:31 PM)
Means she has done the โ€œtransfer first and get signature later processโ€ before.
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CFOs, financial controllers, people in finance industry all of them knows, to do transfer without proper approvals - is akin to own career death sentence.

Blady hell, means she is not fit to be a CFO of Msia's largest private bank.

She doing this, means she's been doing it for some time.

What more for an overseas branch head. It is not even from CEO or chairman instruction. Even then need board approval for such huge money transfer.

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Apr 28 2025, 04:46 AM)
bijan got follow procedure

pm suggest investments in 1mdb, validated and checked by the finance minister then only can go thru ok. proper sop was followed
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hahahaha
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true or not they must deny this because show mbb senior mgmt can cincai transfer money out.

But is open secret that rules, sop, check and balance does not apply to senior mgmt. Only apply to pipits. Go money change rm100p also need ic

But ai story is sus. More real story is they do test. Then kena block by jpm. Then come up with story
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Apr 27 2025, 01:51 PM)
If true then shes got to be the dumbest cfo ever. How can simply authorize transfer without board & ceo approval.

The fact that she even requested a transfer means that she is not fit for that position
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Hang on now Dumbo.

That sum needs Board approval? LOL. Board... Let me laugh again

Every level have it's limit authority.

And those who pressed like also equally IQ single digit
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Oh ya u guys punya organizational never test u guys with phishing email?

If fail phishing then have to undergo some lecture and retest

If fail more than few times will kena show cause letter etc.
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All talk macam expert but actual fact never see how those c suite pple work. U guys think they always follow proper procedure, but in actual fact they are the ones who dont follow la. Somemore for <1mil USD, C suites have very high discretionary limit. They will carry out work then later only do all the necessary paperwork and that also not they do, its their secretary. Just remember they climb up not because they follow rules. Really a lot of pple here like to talk cock sing song.
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your monies in Maybank isn't safe as simple as that
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Apr 28 2025, 04:46 AM)
bijan got follow procedure

pm suggest investments in 1mdb, validated and checked by the finance minister then only can go thru ok. proper sop was followed
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if you put it that way, he is INNOCENT!!
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QUOTE(Silfer @ Apr 28 2025, 09:35 AM)
if you put it that way, he is INNOCENT!!
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Yeah. As chairman he make the request. As finance minister he validate. As PM he approved
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aiya....maybank open green today

no show guys. no show.
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Yeah. As chairman he make the request. As finance minister he validate. As PM he approved
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looks ok in procedure. definitely no conflict of interest at all. ppl are out to get him i tell you.
what can go wrong?
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Apr 27 2025, 09:23 PM)
Nowaday got whatsapp or phonecall

Just call to verify la
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Whatsapp should not be official. A lot of mnc has barred the use of whatdapp. MS team should be the official channel.

Reason is whatever you transmitted via WhatsApp they can legally use it for whatever purpose. Both whatsapp and in directly FB the mother company.

This is clearly compliance issue. No one can protect you when it comes to compliance.
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looks ok in procedure. definitely no conflict of interest at all. ppl are out to get him i tell you
what can go wrong?
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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Apr 28 2025, 09:43 AM)
Whatsapp should not be official. A lot of mnc has barred the use of whatdapp. MS team should be the official channel.

Reason is whatever you transmitted via WhatsApp they can legally use it for whatever purpose. Both whatsapp and in directly FB the mother company.

This is clearly compliance issue. No one can protect you when it comes to compliance.
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my point being contact or refer to the top boss la


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Yeah. As chairman he make the request. As finance minister he validate. As PM he approved
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And.....I'm trying to put myself should this chairman, finance minister & PM sitting in a discussion table, how it is conducted?

Owaittt........they just play handphone just to burn time
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my point being contact or refer to the top boss la
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Maybe she have approval ceiling. So can approves without CEO.

But that said no one does this type of transfer via whatsapp and zoom. I mean if she is off the hook what does it say to the other staff.

Any wrong transaction people will kena fired for sure. This one cfo pulak
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Apr 28 2025, 09:44 AM)
And.....I'm trying to put myself should this chairman, finance minister & PM sitting in a discussion table, how it is conducted?

Owaittt........they just play handphone just to burn time
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He talk to himself. Lol. Maybe in toilet tengah berak time.

Chairman : ok I raise request
FM: no problem bro. I validate
PM: sure ok. I approve

All done is less than 1 seconds. Efficiency at max. 10 billion deal in 1 seconds.
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Apr 28 2025, 09:24 AM)
Hang on now Dumbo.

That sum needs Board approval?  LOL. Board... Let me laugh again

Every level have it's limit authority.

And those who pressed like also equally IQ single digit
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Yea every level has limit authority but also needs approval.

The limit is there just means she is authorized to sign off alone up to a certain amount. But any transfer of funds still requires approval before she can sign off.

This is a bank we are talking about ya and the funds were being transferred overseas. She cant simply authorize any transfer without any approval .

CFO is an employee too u know dumbo
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Apr 28 2025, 09:24 AM)
Hang on now Dumbo.

That sum needs Board approval?ย  LOL. Board... Let me laugh again

Every level have it's limit authority.

And those who pressed like also equally IQ single digit
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https://amlcft.bnm.gov.my/faq/tfs-fi/defini...-interpretation

https://www.sc.com.my/amla/overview-of-the-...0Force%20(FATF).

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wait.. so u r now claiming she lied during interview?
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If tell truth wun move up so high so fast. Wanna see how she get out of this situation since siham already basi. Ask Rafidah help?



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QUOTE(knwong @ Apr 27 2025, 02:11 PM)
Why Maybank use JP Morgan bank to transfer money?

Maybank themselves canโ€™t transfer?
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Cannot when dealing with foreign currencies you need to have an agent bank for the respective currencies. That's why when you transfer there is always an intermediary bank charges which is this JP morgan
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Some new details from The Edge's full article:

"According to the show cause letter, at 1.16pm, the Lee impersonator asked Khalijah via WhatsApp about Maybank's bank balance, to which she responded that, "Maybank's balance is in the billions!".

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LMAO what kind of CFO is this?

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I wonder how she got the gall to sue Maybank. Her own defence makes her look foolish.

Even if she had the authority to transfer that sum, she acted in a reckless manner.

The full article has got so many red flags.

- The Zoom call lasted for 5 minutes and was cut short due to "connection issues"
- There is an element of time pressure - must be done quick
- 3 unknown phone numbers messaged her
- She claims they mentioned discussing off company channels to prevent insider information from leaking
- She never bothered to verify the entity she transferred the money to
- Even after JPM put a halt to the transaction, it took her a whole 3 more hours to "it then occurred to me that the payment instructions might have been a fraudulent attempt"

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To me, this person does not have enough smarts to be the Group CFO of the largest financial institution in Malaysia and also the largest listed company in the country. Maybank is also the second largest company in Malaysia after Petronas.

How did she get up there?

Maybank sure malu they got this kind of quality personnel, not surprising as they're being propped up by GLICs.

And I don't understand the logic of this person, when it is clear she kena basic scam and never took any actions whatsoever to ascertain the truth.

Looks like Maybank hire C-suite to be "pak turut" without critical thinking? Hmmmm
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Well, offer mulut, no b&w. Maybe wanted to test me? Will never know it can happen but I wun work for that kind of money. Getting a car wud also be benefit in kind which I wud be taxed as well. I was looking for better cash offer than current salary of 20k. 3 years later joined the green lanyard for double more than wat tiger bank cud offer.
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think the story make up very suspicious. maybe previous loss but didnt report
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Yep, very sus. Unless there is another party approving for her. Impossible that only she can effect the transfer herself.

I used to execute transfers up to USD 40 million per transaction - that also I needed another colleague (junior) to also be the first signer. Usually for a corporate account, no one person can transfer a huge amount without involving a second party unless the internal control process is deficient.
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i have second take on this

CFO is part of the scam, her stopping of transaction is only after JP morgan withhold the transfer.


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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 29 2025, 08:19 AM)
I wonder how she got the gall to sue Maybank. Her own defence makes her look foolish.

Even if she had the authority to transfer that sum, she acted in a reckless manner.

The full article has got so many red flags.

- The Zoom call lasted for 5 minutes and was cut short due to "connection issues"
- There is an element of time pressure - must be done quick
- 3 unknown phone numbers messaged her
- She claims they mentioned discussing off company channels to prevent insider information from leaking
- She never bothered to verify the entity she transferred the money to
- Even after JPM put a halt to the transaction, it took her a whole 3 more hours to "it then occurred to me that the payment instructions might have been a fraudulent attempt"

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To me, this person does not have enough smarts to be the Group CFO of the largest financial institution in Malaysia and also the largest listed company in the country. Maybank is also the second largest company in Malaysia after Petronas.

How did she get up there?

Maybank sure malu they got this kind of quality personnel, not surprising as they're being propped up by GLICs.

And I don't understand the logic of this person, when it is clear she kena basic scam and never took any actions whatsoever to ascertain the truth.

Looks like Maybank hire C-suite to be "pak turut" without critical thinking? Hmmmm
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what if she is part of the scam, and JPM withholding the transfer make her reliaze she is cooked?

then all thing she do after is to wash her hand
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Apr 29 2025, 08:58 AM)
what if she is part of the scam, and JPM withholding the transfer make her reliaze she is cooked?

then all thing she do after is to wash her hand
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For less than MYR5mil?

Her celery would've easily been 1mil a year with bonus.
Why risk that kind of money for just a RM5mil scam on her name lol



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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Apr 29 2025, 09:13 AM)
For less than MYR5mil?

Her celery would've easily been 1mil a year with bonus.
Why risk that kind of money for just a RM5mil scam on her name lol
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people have kantoied with far less consideration compare to her situation

it is called greed, something you can't tame
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 29 2025, 08:10 AM)
Some new details from The Edge's full article:

"According to the show cause letter, at 1.16pm, the Lee impersonator asked Khalijah via WhatsApp about Maybank's bank balance, to which she responded that, "Maybank's balance is in the billions!".

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LMAO what kind of CFO is this?
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According to linkedin she graduated with acca from Emile Woolf College London then worked for maybank since 1991 until her dismissal
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usd 1mil to her is a small sum considering how big maybank is. also, transferring money for vvip for whatever hanky-panky reasons are part and parcel of those bankers. it is hard for us commoner to understand...
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According to linkedin she graduated with acca from Emile Woolf College London then worked for maybank since 1991 until her dismissal
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Without correct connections, graduate from Oxfoot pun xleh reach that far up.

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CFO level but dealing in millions over a phone call and whatsapp?

WTH
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For less than MYR5mil?

Her celery would've easily been 1mil a year with bonus.
Why risk that kind of money for just a RM5mil scam on her name lol
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making employees do online mandatory cybersecurity awareness training & shitz
only for the top execs to be the one stupid enuff & almost causing millions worth of damages
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Even CTO themselves clicked on phishing links and provided the credentials to hackers.

Never trust those C levels on cyber security awareness.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Apr 29 2025, 08:10 AM)
Some new details from The Edge's full article:

"According to the show cause letter, at 1.16pm, the Lee impersonator asked Khalijah via WhatsApp about Maybank's bank balance, to which she responded that, "Maybank's balance is in the billions!".

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LMAO what kind of CFO is this?
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Mana article bos?
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QUOTE(KevProp @ Apr 29 2025, 12:02 PM)
CFO level but dealing in millions over a phone call and whatsapp?

WTH
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Honestly not surprising. This is not some SME. Formal emails will be dealing in literally billions. 1b here 100m there.

1 million is like hundred ringgit to typical company.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Apr 29 2025, 09:13 AM)
For less than MYR5mil?

Her celery would've easily been 1mil a year with bonus.
Why risk that kind of money for just a RM5mil scam on her name lol
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Another thing that came into my mind, even if the transaction goes through, her career is basically cooked and still subject to criminal investigations.

So its a no matter head or tail you still lose situation. If she was really a scam victim then she is not qualified to be a CFO to be so easily scammed like this. If she was an accomplice, then even more gone case, no idea what went through her mind to risk everything for so small amount. If 30-50mil can understand la, aduiii...

Either way, she is cooked mega_shok.gif
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oh wow you still buy print editions....kek other day I looked at printed newspaper and realized ("WTF are the fonts so small now")...huhu
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Finally had time to read the full article

Edge cited her show cause letter and printed her version of events

The original impersonator had indeed claimed to be maybank Singapore ceo but there was a warning flag that should have set her senses off. He actually like a typical beng scammer asked what's Maybank malaysias bank balance??? She replied in the billions

She suspected nothing during the zoom call but line was bad so they continued on whatsapp. The maybank malaysia ceo impersonator actually messaged her from two unknown numbers not one kek

The recent given for using unknown numbers and communicating only via wa was because this deal was supposed to be secret. The payment was to a company called zhuhai trading limited and was part of an acquisition they wanted to keep under wraps. The messages from fake maybank malaysia ceo ultimately convinced her this was legit

The rest of the events played out as reported but maybank show cause letter also cited some interesting things. She never inform her superior or BNM but only the head of the bank fraud dept
She didn't lodge the police report only a manager in the fraud unit.

And the report was inaccurate because it didn't mention the fact that the transaction ultimately failed because jp Morgan held it.. The implication being she either trying to downplay her culpability or the issue entirely by giving the fraud unit and inaccurate account of the events.

Her excuses abit flimsy, she claimed she wanted to inform her boss about six months later during an appraisal meeting that was later delayed. Using of private numbers were common in the industry

So yeah I think maybank within their rights to suspect something fishy

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Another thing that came into my mind, even if the transaction goes through, her career is basically cooked and still subject to criminal investigations.

So its a no matter head or tail you still lose situation. If she was really a scam victim then she is not qualified to be a CFO to be so easily scammed like this. If she was an accomplice, then even more gone case, no idea what went through her mind to risk everything for so small amount. If 30-50mil can understand la, aduiii...

Either way, she is cooked  mega_shok.gif
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CFO to be so easily scammed like this

Easily? Scammer will rage if u tink its easy.

Sembang kencang all ktards can la
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QUOTE(9m2w @ May 1 2025, 12:50 PM)
Finally had time to read the full article

Edge cited her show cause letter and printed her version of events

The original impersonator had indeed claimed to be maybank Singapore ceo but there was a warning flag that should have set her senses off. He actually like a typical beng scammer asked what's Maybank malaysias bank balance??? She replied in the billions

She suspected nothing during the zoom call but line was bad so they continued on whatsapp. The maybank malaysia ceo impersonator actually messaged her from two unknown numbers not one kek

The recent given for using unknown numbers and communicating only via wa was because this deal was supposed to be secret. The payment was to a company called zhuhai trading limited and was part of an acquisition they wanted to keep under wraps. The messages from fake maybank malaysia ceo ultimately convinced her this was legit

The rest of the events played out as reported but maybank show cause letter also cited some interesting things. She never inform her superior or BNM but only the head of the bank fraud dept
She didn't lodge the police report only a manager in the fraud unit.

And the report was inaccurate because it didn't mention the fact that the transaction ultimately failed because jp Morgan held it.. The implication being she either trying to downplay her culpability or the issue entirely by giving the fraud unit and inaccurate account of the events.

Her excuses abit flimsy, she claimed she wanted to inform her boss about six months later during an appraisal meeting that was later delayed. Using of private numbers were common in the industry

So yeah I think maybank within their rights to suspect something fishy
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I also bought the edge just to read this news
Two person from Singapore with Malaysia number are already raising red flags, and both were Maybank Singapore CEO and President
Then they did zoom voice call - could be some voice impersonator
(Initially I thought they were using zoom video call with AI face swap)
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the scammer clearly had inside info and attack the weak link
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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Apr 29 2025, 05:28 PM)
Honestly not surprising. This is not some SME. Formal emails will be dealing in literally billions. 1b here 100m there.

1 million is like hundred ringgit to typical company.
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If like what you said, you won't even need group CEO or president to call to send hundred ringgit whistling.gif
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"According to the show cause letter, at 1.16pm, the Lee impersonator asked Khalijah via WhatsApp about Maybank's bank balance, to which she responded that, "Maybank's balance is in the billions!".

My favourite bit of the article.
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https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/753227

Full article is out. The CFO is really sweat.gif

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Shortly after, she received a text message from another number which she believed to be the personal number of Maybankโ€™s president and group CEO. But this was an imposter who mentioned that they (the people posing as Khairussaleh and Lee) were working on a confidential project, on which the details would be provided via the Zoom call.

Khalijah says she received another text message from yet another Malaysian number (01139560619), which she again believed to belong to Khairussaleh, using another line for the confidential project to be discussed.


Firstly, you don't have the number of your boss? You "believe" it belonged to him?

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At 4.45pm, she received information that the payment of US$985,426 had been successfully routed to the agent bank, JP Morgan, for processing. At 6.28pm, she was informed that JP Morgan had put the payment on hold due to sanction screening.

Khalijah then attempted to call the Lee impersonator, but he did not answer. Instead, he sent a message saying he was in a meeting with the bankโ€™s lawyers and reiterated that communication should be via WhatsApp messages.

An update to the Khairussaleh impersonator received the response and instruction to ensure that the payment goes through. He reiterated the need to communicate via WhatsApp to avoid insider information leaking out.


Insider information will leak out if its a call, but will be safe if its in Whatsapp? What kind of sohainess?

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From 8.06pm to 9.15pm, Khalijah was in communication with a JP Morgan executive, and she grew suspicious when the screening took longer than expected.


So, it was JP Morgan that stopped it because they found it suspicious. But the CFO said.

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She says she had acted decisively and swiftly to ensure that the bankโ€™s interests were fully protected, and that the incident did not result in any financial loss to the bank. โ€œThe show cause letter presents a selective and incomplete account of the events surrounding the incident.โ€
4pm she sent the money - then 6pm it was stopped - but she didn't felt anything was wrong until almost 10pm, but say she acted swiftly.

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She also said she wanted to inform Khairussaleh of the April 24, 2024, incident in January 2025 at a one-on-one performance appraisal with him. However, the session was rescheduled to Feb 5.


Kek, it didn't occur to her to inform her boss someone was using his name to attempt to scam the company on the same day - but waited more than 7 months to do so in a one-to-one? You are the CFO, wouldn't you see the CEO weekly if not daily??

This is the level of GLC top management?

 

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