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post Apr 27 2025, 10:44 AM, updated 7 months ago

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post Apr 27 2025, 10:52 AM

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You no deal with China, there is no issue unless you greedy like most CCP pretending to be nice guy.
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Apr 27 2025, 10:52 AM)
You no deal with China, there is no issue unless you greedy like most CCP pretending to be nice guy.
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Support local business. Not just the cheapest.
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post Apr 27 2025, 10:59 AM

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If they come here and abuse the visa report je la.
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Frankly, if you are getting priced out of the market AFTER you take into account the flight ticket, transport and accommodations the china teams are paying just to come over, maybe you really should reconsider your business model.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Apr 27 2025, 11:03 AM)
Frankly, if you are getting priced out of the market AFTER you take into account the flight ticket, transport and accommodations the china teams are paying just to come over, maybe you really should reconsider your business model.
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Those teams getting free air fare from XJP ka
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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Apr 27 2025, 11:07 AM)
Those teams getting free air fare from XJP ka
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lol, you try ask Tiong can gip u free air fare go tongsan or not?
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 27 2025, 10:55 AM)
Support local business. Not just the cheapest.
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Good luck with voting with your wallet. Many people just pay lip service with "buy local even if it is more expensive" but when it's time to actually do it, they can't. Just ask Americans.

https://afina.com/blogs/news/made-in-usa

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As small business owners, we’ve heard it a thousand times:

“I’d gladly pay more to support American-made.”

We wanted to believe it. So we put it to the test.

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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Apr 27 2025, 11:25 AM)
Good luck with voting with your wallet. Many people just pay lip service with "buy local even if it is more expensive" but when it's time to actually do it, they can't. Just ask Americans.

https://afina.com/blogs/news/made-in-usa
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Support Ms Puiyi instead of China doll porns.
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post Apr 27 2025, 11:42 AM

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actually photographer job 9.9/10 con job. they also cut throat all the time. now china peiple come in take their job then cry father cry mother. same like last time introduce ehailing, taxi driver cry father cry mother.

you see 1 year how many wedding fair? wtf weh, you think they no earn cut throat? they even hire china makeup artist and photograher. All printing, editing job and album printing job outstource to taobao also.
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already told you gais they can easily overstay to one year , just exit kastam border to neighbor country and come back.

this lady also mention same thing.

90 days recycling can run small business without paying lhdn
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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Apr 27 2025, 11:42 AM)
actually photographer job 9.9/10 con job. they also cut throat all the time. now china peiple come in take their job then cry father cry mother. same like last time introduce ehailing, taxi driver cry father cry mother.

you see 1 year how many wedding fair? wtf weh, you think they no earn cut throat? they even hire china makeup artist and photograher. All printing, editing job and album printing job outstource to taobao also.
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With the divorce rate, why spend so much on photos to begin with lol
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Great now we can enjoy a more sensible prices for services.
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Ppl no food will go find, others no food will just complain.
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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Apr 27 2025, 10:59 AM)
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Days working visa can work meh?

If they come here and abuse the visa report je la.
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a lot of malaysian also take 90 days visit visa and work in AUst and NZ lo LOL
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 27 2025, 10:55 AM)
Support local business. Not just the cheapest.
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what if that local biz gets all their services and products from China?
can still support?
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That’s why I said, the rate of ccp dage come n find me has never been seen before
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 27 2025, 01:28 PM)
what if that local biz gets all their services and products from China?
can still support?
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Make informed decisions.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 27 2025, 01:39 PM)
Make informed decisions.
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haha... ok... no wonder all this while I am wary of Proton....
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So fast complain now? Now their economic depression is still not full blown hor. Haven't sunk till bottom yet. Currently, only <10% of their factories already shifted to other Asean countries, there's still >90% in CN le..

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Your see local Chinese, CCP is that x100.
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well as expected, not all of them are bad but is just their nature of their blood. What she say is all 100% correct.

i am not well verse in photograph industry but i know, chinese china, are way different than the chinese malaysian , they are brutally, if not, know how to exploit the weakness, as if they are prodigy

efficient, quick decision making, large fund, and huge cable connection are just few of the characteristic of them, also dont forget that naturally we all have the aura of chinese help chinese metal thinking in our brain.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 27 2025, 10:44 AM)

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that's issue with competitive marketing strategy ma.. can copy their package style and compete with them la
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QUOTE(estacado @ Apr 27 2025, 02:03 PM)
Your see local Chinese, CCP is that x100.
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Yup,
Local Chinese MAJORITY can still trust say 60-70%

China Chinese as the video says from 9:00 onwards, they have zero morality. Perhaps 10% can trust. Money is their God and pursuing wealth overrides everything. Ethics, laws, compassion.

How Singapore fares better with strict laws, enforcement and a less common bribery culture in handling China Chinese is spot on.
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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Apr 27 2025, 02:38 PM)
well as expected, not all of them are bad but is just their nature of their blood. What she say is all 100% correct.

i am not well verse in photograph industry but i know, chinese china, are way different than the chinese malaysian , they are brutally, if not, know how to exploit the weakness, as if they are prodigy

efficient, quick decision making, large fund, and huge cable connection are just few of the characteristic of them, also dont forget that naturally we all have the aura of chinese help chinese metal thinking in our brain.
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Pls, other race also got that problem la always help their own first

My case lagi sui, see satay seller no customer go suppork, the realize why so slow eh, see him kept fanning his satay then last² tapao give akak first...I was first in line...his son wasn't so fucking dense like him, now just can't order anymore lazy kena skip turn coz my skin color
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First, 90 days holiday visa cannot work.

Second, more tourists will create more local jobs.
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QUOTE(OrangeGamer @ Apr 27 2025, 02:49 PM)
that's issue with competitive marketing strategy ma.. can copy their package style and compete with them la
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Which means you have to engage in price war. It happened in pc and handphone market before. It benefits the consumer for a short time during the war but after the dust settles, we have to accept the price of the survivers set.
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Some industry may be affected but in positive side tourism will boom Hotel, restaurant....Didnt watch the whole video, but the video only said the negative points only and also one sided opinion.
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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Apr 27 2025, 10:59 AM)
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Days working visa can work meh?

If they come here and abuse the visa report je la.
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Betul. In fact ayams that kena tangkap from the raids all charged under misusing visiting visa offense, instead of soliciting for sex
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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Apr 27 2025, 11:42 AM)
actually photographer job 9.9/10 con job. they also cut throat all the time. now china peiple come in take their job then cry father cry mother. same like last time introduce ehailing, taxi driver cry father cry mother.

you see 1 year how many wedding fair? wtf weh, you think they no earn cut throat? they even hire china makeup artist and photograher. All printing, editing job and album printing job outstource to taobao also.
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See his way of writing also know la

Confirm overcharge one, now straight compete with dageland ppl... efficient low-cost quick and ruthless.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 27 2025, 10:55 AM)
Support local business. Not just the cheapest.
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Why support local business?

Go any local hardware shop and check the prices.

They are selling things 3-20x the price of same item where u can find on shopee and taobao.
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QUOTE(Tacotaco @ Apr 27 2025, 03:52 PM)
Why support local business?

Go any local hardware shop and check the prices.

They are selling things 3-20x the price of same item where u can find on shopee and taobao.
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Pls show example.
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Certain things you can choose to support local but to blindly support locals due to patriotism is not the way to go.

For example, Malaysia is a rather small country and there are certain large scale manufacturing that we should not embark on, for example steel production. How much money was lost on Perwaja, Amsteel and Lion Group. It was not worth it at all. We all knew who the mastermind was... it was the undying 100 years old.

EV for example is also another one that I think we should JV with Chinese companies instead of embarking on another endless R&D while producing little to no result.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 27 2025, 04:41 PM)
EV for example is also another one that I think we should JV with Chinese companies instead of embarking on another endless R&D while producing little to no result.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Apr 27 2025, 11:03 AM)
Frankly, if you are getting priced out of the market AFTER you take into account the flight ticket, transport and accommodations the china teams are paying just to come over, maybe you really should reconsider your business model.
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Yes i was facepalm when he said he remember each of his client birthday.

I was like dude if they want wedding photographer they just need wedding photographer, once in a lifetime, maybe 2-3, not another person (stranger) that know their birthday and spam their whatsapp on birthday every year, its tiring to reply so many "thank you", especially to a stranger who happen to met 1 time for wedding photo. Unless every year he gift birthday gift like photo frame etc.

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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 27 2025, 10:55 AM)
Support local business. Not just the cheapest.
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Not going to support any local crap that sells 3-20x price compare to taobao
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Apr 27 2025, 10:52 AM)
You no deal with China, there is no issue unless you greedy like most CCP pretending to be nice guy.
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how to no issue

if youre a local seller trying to sell stuff
they will whack you with low prices , profit few sen also can, they can tahan because their workers willing to do 996 etc while youre stuck with workers who MC everyday etc but want all the benefits.

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Apr 27 2025, 05:54 PM)
how to no issue

if youre a local seller trying to sell stuff
they will whack you with low prices , profit few sen also can, they can tahan because their workers willing to do 996 etc while youre stuck with workers who MC everyday etc but want all the benefits.
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And no regulation to use shxtty quality stuff. Tuala wanita also can cut cost what cannot cut cost?
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Apr 27 2025, 05:55 PM)
And no regulation to use shxtty quality stuff. Tuala wanita also can cut cost what cannot cut cost?
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Female pads ? What’s the story
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Apr 27 2025, 05:55 PM)
And no regulation to use shxtty quality stuff. Tuala wanita also can cut cost what cannot cut cost?
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i'd say tuala wanita is the least to be concerned about bcoz it's not internalized into the body....

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QUOTE(estacado @ Apr 27 2025, 02:03 PM)
Your see local Chinese, CCP is that x100.
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hehehh ccp told me marehsia chinese very nice, they not so cunning etc, everything also tell even strangers, like theyre good friends... if ccp style they dun talk without any benefit.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 01:15 PM)
Local wumao no scare lose job cuz they believe they iron rice bowl working for ccp mnc with local hire requirement. Last last ccp learn from local type c company hire malay figureheads and replace all local C with real C.
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true

CCP just need to appease ruling Malay elites

meanwhile nons here can fly kites, even Anthony need to ambush XJP when he was on his way out to give him a souvenir

sungguh memalukan
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Apr 27 2025, 05:54 PM)
how to no issue

if youre a local seller trying to sell stuff
they will whack you with low prices , profit few sen also can, they can tahan because their workers willing to do 996 etc while youre stuck with workers who MC everyday etc but want all the benefits.
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from GPT

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Yes, China has faced complaints and scrutiny at the World Trade Organization (WTO) and other international bodies for labor practices and employment-related issues. These complaints often center around allegations of unfair practices that violate global labor standards or give Chinese industries an unfair competitive edge in the global market. Key areas of concern include:

1. Forced Labor Allegations:
• Xinjiang Issue: There have been widespread allegations of forced labor involving Uyghur and other ethnic minority populations in Xinjiang. Products like cotton, textiles, and solar panels have faced international scrutiny, with several countries banning imports suspected of being linked to forced labor.
• WTO members have raised concerns that such practices violate international labor conventions and create unfair advantages by artificially lowering production costs.

2. Workers’ Rights and Conditions:
• Low Wages and Poor Working Conditions: China’s rapid industrialization has often been linked to exploitative labor practices, such as long working hours, insufficient safety measures, and low wages. This has led to criticism from labor groups and trade partners.
• Limited Union Representation: The All-China Federation of Trade Unions (ACFTU) is the only legally recognized labor union in China, which many argue does not effectively represent workers’ rights and interests, contributing to systemic labor issues.

3. Impact on Global Trade:
• Unfair Competition: Countries argue that China’s labor practices distort global markets. By keeping production costs artificially low through lax enforcement of labor protections or exploitative practices, Chinese companies gain a pricing advantage that undercuts foreign competitors.
• Trade Barriers: Other WTO members have lodged complaints about subsidies and state intervention that further exacerbate the imbalance created by labor practices.

4. Responses from the WTO and Other Nations:
• WTO Mechanisms: Members have brought disputes to the WTO, but the organization’s enforcement mechanisms are often slow and rely on consensus, limiting immediate action.
• Unilateral Actions: Countries like the U.S. and EU have imposed sanctions, import bans, or tariffs targeting products linked to forced labor or exploitative practices.
• Corporate Responses: Many multinational corporations have pledged to avoid supply chains linked to forced or exploitative labor, facing pressure from consumers and human rights organizations.

5. China’s Defense:
• Economic Development Argument: China often frames its labor policies as necessary for economic development and poverty alleviation.
• Denial of Forced Labor: The Chinese government has consistently denied allegations of forced labor, labeling them as politically motivated.

Moving Forward:

To address these issues, China may need to:
• Improve Transparency: Open its labor practices to independent monitoring and verification.
• Enhance Worker Protections: Strengthen labor laws and enforcement mechanisms to ensure compliance with international standards.
• Engage with the WTO: Actively work to resolve disputes and address concerns to maintain its reputation and avoid further sanctions or trade barriers.

These issues remain a significant challenge for China’s international trade relations and its broader global standing.




inb4 darkterror "you no work 15 hours a day you don't consider yourself competitive"
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 27 2025, 10:44 AM)

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U welcome sino

Now sino no money

The locust comes to raid your job
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QUOTE(Tacotaco @ Apr 27 2025, 05:50 PM)
Not going to support any local crap that sells 3-20x price compare to taobao
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Pls show example.
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Nice.. faster sapu property for them to rent and rent high high to them lo
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 05:57 PM)
Female pads ? What’s the story
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Apr 27 2025, 06:43 PM)
Nice.. faster sapu property for them to rent and rent high high to them lo
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I don't think they rent here. Mostly they will buy to export their cash out of CCP.
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What you trying to say by make informed decision ?

After knowing local seller sell China made products more exp than shipping from China still support ?Thats dumb shit there, not informed decision.

What's in it for me to support local, when my wallet bleed ?Sohem meh and dislike money ?
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 27 2025, 06:40 PM)
Pls show example.
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Taobao selling CNY 200. Local seller on Lazada sell RM 200. Lowyat sell RM 250.

U in retail, dont know ?
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Wu Maos want the local Chinese to bankrupt because they identify as China citizens. The reality is that they don’t care about the Chinese, only their emperor Xi
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I don't think they rent here. Mostly they will buy to export their cash out of CCP.
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90 days sleep under the bridge ah?
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/ktard said is good. Survivor of the fittest.

They going fight heads on against ccp 996.
Maybe 897
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ppl see it 1 sided only

if they come here, they will have to take flight/transport, accommodation/renting, food/entertainment etc.

they screw your photography industry, but u can change your job to sell them food, rent them room etc.

and with all those expenses that they need to spend, they still can provide a cheaper or even maybe better service than u, then your service memang should get closed down.

and ppl say dont blame globalization?

fk those mnc coming your country to build factories here, their own country ppl losing job what, why u no pity their countrymen losing job?

why u no chase away mnc back to their own country to hire their own ppl? (which is what trump being doing)

sikit sikit competition cry father cry mother

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Female pads ? What’s the story
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 05:57 PM)
Female pads ? What’s the story
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https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/articles/cwy153ze4yno/simp

Read the BBC summary here but in Chinese. Basically Chinese socmed found out their local pad brands all poor quality, either size not as big or shine phone light also can see through and the material quality like yellow yellow.

Then they did what they normally did, wallop all overseas stock from HK Malaysia Japan Aus NZ to ship back and sell for profit. Like mask during Covid and milk powder.
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Apr 27 2025, 06:43 PM)
Nice.. faster sapu property for them to rent and rent high high to them lo
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Or can sell to them n exit from here. If 30mil of them come in property & land prices will shoot up at least 5x. Guess which type will benefit the most?
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 27 2025, 07:08 PM)
ppl see it 1 sided only

if they come here, they will have to take flight/transport, accommodation/renting, food/entertainment etc.

they screw your photography industry, but u can change your job to sell them food, rent them room etc.

and with all those expenses that they need to spend, they still can provide a cheaper or even maybe better service than u, then your service memang should get closed down.

and ppl say dont blame globalization?

fk those mnc coming your country to build factories here, their own country ppl losing job what, why u no pity their countrymen losing job?

why u no chase away mnc back to their own country to hire their own ppl? (which is what trump being doing)

sikit sikit competition cry father cry mother
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accommodation, CCP peasants can sleep in a 12 person dorm, that's exceeded the UN or WTO regulations of no more than 4 person-room

hardworking, CCP peasants can work 18 hour a day, that's exceeded the regulations of WTO blatantly

flight tickets, aiyo even a 21 yr old student can afford one under Tony AA, everyone can fly

legality, dude lots of Msian got detained oversea for working without permit, its just that corrupted melei govt closed one eye on PATI only

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want to earn in Msia can, go through proper channel and apply formally and adhere local laws

even Apple and Microsoft operate in CCP land also obey CCP laws isn't it

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i'd say tuala wanita is the least to be concerned about bcoz it's not internalized into the body....
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If such a simple thing also cannot control quality, something that a very big percentage of the population use every month, you think can control the quality of anything else?

That is why anything to do with eating/drinking or for personal use, made in china will be the last thing on my shopping list unless is owned by big foreign F&B company. I will use made in Thailand or Indonesia before theirs. The culture they have is profit before literally anything, they don't even care about health and safety of customers.
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China oredi cornered the global battery market. You can hardly even find a non China made battery. More precisely they are taking over the global energy market, if they can get rid of petrol consuming stuff (like ICE cars). That would mean they effectively take over the world.

You all see any batteries from China. Good or not, tell me? laugh.gif

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accommodation, CCP peasants can sleep in a 12 person dorm, that's exceeded the UN or WTO regulations of no more than 4 person-room

hardworking, CCP peasants can work 18 hour a day, that's exceeded the regulations of WTO blatantly

flight tickets, aiyo even a 21 yr old student can afford one under Tony AA, everyone can fly

legality, dude lots of Msian got detained oversea for working without permit, its just that corrupted melei govt closed one eye on PATI only

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want to earn in Msia can, go through proper channel and apply formally and adhere local laws

even Apple and Microsoft operate in CCP land also obey CCP laws isn't it
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that is assuming if they wanna come here to live the life like this which alot of assumption you are making.

and to come work 18 hours why not just get a working permit to work in sg for half the working hour?

and working hours if willingly is not force, unlike those that work under corporation that they are forced to work under pressure.

bangla here can work 18 hours also, why u dont say they snatch your job? o waii u dont wanna be tukang sapu.

and u still havent answer me when you want to chase out the mnc here because we snatched their countrymen jobs back in their country
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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 27 2025, 07:13 PM)
Or can sell to them n exit from here. If 30mil of them come in property & land prices will shoot up at least 5x. Guess which type will benefit the most?
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These ccp also not low class one. They come here work and study, stay in good area like pj, bangsar south one..

Ryan and miho, atwater also their camp site..
Around 3 to 5 fella share 1 unit

And ofcuz, now dpc is the hottest area for ccp people flocking in

So dont go and sapu area like kajang cheras semenyih.. sure mati..

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If such a simple thing also cannot control quality, something that a very big percentage of the population use every month, you think can control the quality of anything else?

That is why anything to do with eating/drinking or for personal use, made in china will be the last thing on my shopping list unless is owned by big foreign F&B company. I will use made in Thailand or Indonesia before theirs. The culture they have is profit before literally anything, they don't even care about health and safety of customers.
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haiz i really dun wanna eat any ccp thing but being with a ccpmoi... no choice

even their fresh food got so many scandals...

preserved vege i dun dare makan liao, duno what they preserve with...
lagi can say is better taste than our acar, wtf.... acar is miles better.

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i'd say tuala wanita is the least to be concerned about bcoz it's not internalized into the body....
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It can affect the human reproductive systems in women. If they use chemicals that are harmful to human reproductive systems. Many chemicals like phthalates and DMF can affect humans. Hence PVC and PU polymers….
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why they can fly all the way from China but still cheaper then us? They only eat 1 meal at a time?
Years ago there are many China main contractor come to Malaysia tender our big project at low price. At the end many burned their hand and balik kampung. The developer who award job to them also burned their hand.
I think both side need to burned their hand only know this won't work.

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Apr 27 2025, 07:33 PM)
These ccp also not low class one. They come here work and study, stay in good area like pj, bangsar south one..

Ryan and miho, atwater also their camp site..
Around 3 to 5 fella share 1 unit

And ofcuz, now dpc is the hottest area for ccp people flocking in

So dont go and sapu area like kajang cheras semenyih..  sure mati..
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Wats Ryan, Miho, Atwater, dpc? confused.gif
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Pls show example.
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I buy cheap universal adapter, the hardware shop Taipan charge rm3 a piece. I buy 5 pieces rm15.

On Shopee, it cost rm0.65 a piece. 5 pieces cost rm3.25. Prolly can find cheaper if I look for it on Taobao.
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local beli from CCP sell u high price
local hire bangla, bangla kirim duit balik bangladash. boss untung bangla untung. u pay for it.
bila local boss untung dia ada bagi bonus?


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i'd say tuala wanita is the least to be concerned about bcoz it's not internalized into the body....
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Tell that to your fubu and see they will spank your dick hard or not

Even for guys if wearing contaminated boxer your balls your dick will be infected

Let alone sanitary pad that has grown roaches before, women's vaginal health is much more critical to the overall wellbeing than men la
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Apr 27 2025, 07:47 PM)
why they can fly all the way from China but still cheaper then us? They only eat 1 meal at a time?
Years ago there are many China main contractor come to Malaysia tender our big project at low price. At the end many burned their hand and balik kampung. The developer who award job to them also burned their hand.
I think both side need to burned their hand only know this won't work.
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After the building collapsed in just 16 secs in Bangkok

Sane person would think 1000 times before engaging CCP construction

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 27 2025, 07:31 PM)
that is assuming if they wanna come here to live the life like this which alot of assumption you are making.

and to come work 18 hours why not just get a working permit to work in sg for half the working hour?

and working hours if willingly is not force, unlike those that work under corporation that they are forced to work under pressure.

bangla here can work 18 hours also, why u dont say they snatch your job? o waii u dont wanna be tukang sapu.

and u still havent answer me when you want to chase out the mnc here because we snatched their countrymen jobs back in their country
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Shifting goal post
Working 18 hrs a day is outright illegal

MNCs setting up base here is a product of globalisation, we work here we pay our due taxes, the origin country still get to keep the management team to them, we offshore the most senior position also have to bow before them

However how is this same as letting the tourists come here work illegally? Do they pay any taxes to the govt?
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Why not just hire them replacing bangla
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Why not just hire them replacing bangla
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… fr wat I read / heard ccp r cunning… b4 long they take over biz of rather tame local bossses… how?

Oso they can easily passed as local type C if they speak bm…

Ok I think v sked they cum here cos they r v aggressive compared to v easy going locals… robot is less scary…
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janji got cheaper price who farking cares
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… fr wat I read / heard ccp r cunning… b4 long they take over biz of rather tame local bossses… how?

Oso they can easily passed as local type C if they speak bm…

Ok I think v sked they cum here cos they r v aggressive compared to v easy going locals… robot is less scary…
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How they take over without citizenships or pr?
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Why not just hire them replacing bangla
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Their salary hire than Malaysian
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90
Days working visa can work meh?

If they come here and abuse the visa report je la.
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who gonna check?

those Siam cook, waiter working at tomyam restaurants all work illegally here for years, every 30 days go back home and chop,rest 1 day then come back, every single month liddat
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QUOTE(cms @ Apr 27 2025, 06:55 PM)
What you trying to say by make informed decision ?

After knowing local seller sell China made products more exp than shipping from China still support ?Thats dumb shit there, not informed decision.

What's in it for me to support local, when my wallet bleed ?Sohem meh and dislike money ?
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You are saying like all things in Malaysia are made in China lol
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QUOTE(cms @ Apr 27 2025, 06:56 PM)
Taobao selling CNY 200. Local seller on Lazada sell RM 200. Lowyat sell RM 250.

U in retail, dont know ?
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I'm not in retail.
What CNY?
Link?
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Apr 27 2025, 06:56 PM)
90 days sleep under the bridge ah?
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Of course some will rent, But I think those who are rich enough to "escape" China and start business here will invest in property here also.
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QUOTE(ListenToTheWind @ Apr 27 2025, 08:03 PM)
I buy cheap universal adapter, the hardware shop Taipan charge rm3 a piece. I buy 5 pieces rm15.

On Shopee, it cost rm0.65 a piece. 5 pieces cost rm3.25. Prolly can find cheaper if I look for it on Taobao.
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I won't trust on this kind of quality. Price is not everything. For things like these, I'm willing to spend more.
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After the building collapsed in just 16 secs in Bangkok

Sane person would think 1000 times before engaging CCP construction
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you know the 2nd highest tower in Malaysia is built by China contractor?
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Off course yes. China have new and unique way of neo colonization
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I won't trust on this kind of quality. Price is not everything. For things like these, I'm willing to spend more.
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We are not comparing brand A and brand Chinam
The above scenario is the hardware shop bought it cheap from China and reselling it at 5x the price.

I do understand some willing to pay more for better quality product but in this case, we are comparing apple with apple. So, why pay more if they are exactly the same?
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We are not comparing brand A and brand Chinam
The above scenario is the hardware shop bought it cheap from China and reselling it at 5x the price.

I do understand some willing to pay more for better quality product but in this case, we are comparing apple with apple. So, why pay more if they are exactly the same?
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Because there are options that is not made in China.
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For those pro ccp lol
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You are saying like all things in Malaysia are made in China lol
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And yet still cheaper in Taabao n Amazon vs local retailers for Chnya n non Chyna made/brand stuff
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QUOTE(cms @ Apr 28 2025, 08:02 AM)
And yet still cheaper in Taabao n Amazon vs local retailers for Chnya n non Chyna made/brand stuff
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Cheaper lol

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Cheaper lol

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Let me try explaining it clearly to you.

1) We are talking about same item, same manufacturer. So no difference in quality.

2) But the same item sold in Msia via online or worst retail is much more expensive than Amazon/Taobao


Get it ? Really need to breakdown point for point meh. Siao wei


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QUOTE(cms @ Apr 28 2025, 08:52 AM)
Let me try explaining it clearly to you.

1) We are talking about same item, same manufacturer. So no difference in quality.

2) But the same item sold in Msia via online or worst retail is much more expensive than Amazon/Taobao
Get it ? Really need to breakdown point for point meh. Siao wei
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Why would I not choose a different manufacturer that is not China? lol
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Why would I not choose a different manufacturer that is not China? lol
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Lol….its ok. If continue talking we cant afford any goods except CcP made ones. Lolz
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People should be wary of tered asking people to be anti-China. Same posters don't ask you to be wary of US or others.

Why cannot be friends with everyone?

Please be wary of propaganda. Very common nowadays.
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TS is full of shit. why the very rich or super rich china nationals still live in china ? TS is utter rubbish. why are there so many idiots in this forum ?

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People should be wary of tered asking people to be anti-China. Same posters don't ask you to be wary of US or others.

Why cannot be friends with everyone?

Please be wary of propaganda. Very common nowadays.
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most are taiwan and CIA funded propaganda
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President William Lai has cracked down on his political enemies and has attempted to exterminate all opposition forces, the chairman said

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/arc...4/27/2003835897

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 27 2025, 07:08 PM)
ppl see it 1 sided only

if they come here, they will have to take flight/transport, accommodation/renting, food/entertainment etc.

they screw your photography industry, but u can change your job to sell them food, rent them room etc.

and with all those expenses that they need to spend, they still can provide a cheaper or even maybe better service than u, then your service memang should get closed down.

and ppl say dont blame globalization?

fk those mnc coming your country to build factories here, their own country ppl losing job what, why u no pity their countrymen losing job?

why u no chase away mnc back to their own country to hire their own ppl? (which is what trump being doing)

sikit sikit competition cry father cry mother
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Datang lagi plotek illegal workers on tourist visa.
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Wu Maos want the local Chinese to bankrupt because they identify as China citizens. The reality is that they don’t care about the Chinese, only their emperor Xi
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Local sino lickers are desperate for validation, China wumaos view them as damsels in distress and take advantage of them
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Local wumao no scare lose job cuz they believe they iron rice bowl working for ccp mnc with local hire requirement. Last last ccp learn from local type c company hire malay figureheads and replace all local C with real C.
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hmm.. weird. i never received a post reported warning even. must be a pro ccp mod didnt like the post itself.
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 28 2025, 08:47 AM)
Cheaper lol

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Did you watch the video?

The reason is not because china quality. Reason of collapse is because design, then substandard material was use.

The steel grade they use isnt to build highrise building, the cement isnt fill all the way and left hollow center (not enough cement)

Is not because the cement low quality or the steel low quality. I am suprise they use steel and not using aluminium lol.
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That post got reported again lel. Must be that ykj again. Don’t know why he despises me
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Datang lagi plotek illegal workers on tourist visa.
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Anything CCP related also will plotek wan la those ppl.
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Support Ms Puiyi instead of China doll porns.
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Apr 28 2025, 12:45 PM)

Is not because the cement low quality or the steel low quality. I am suprise they use steel and not using aluminium lol.
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hmm.. weird. i never received a post reported warning even. must be a pro ccp mod didnt like the post itself.
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No warning wan la when post deleted. Yesterday I post nuke codes oso deleted without any notification.
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No warning wan la when post deleted. Yesterday I post nuke codes oso deleted without any notification.
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cukur at least introduced to JULIA
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cukur at least introduced to JULIA
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Huh you never seen her before?
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Huh you never seen her before?
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 27 2025, 07:11 PM)
heh. technically its still goose down what. they just didnt mention what grade of down it is. they didnt say WHOLE FEATHERS now...did they...
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heh. technically its still goose down what. they just didnt mention what grade of down it is. they didnt say WHOLE FEATHERS now...did they...
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So it still works as a maoyi to keep them warm? Using dirty materials for sanitary pads though. Notice that the people doing the exposing are not AMDK but bingchilling themselves.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 28 2025, 01:35 PM)
So it still works as a maoyi to keep them warm? Using dirty materials for sanitary pads though. Notice that the people doing the exposing are not AMDK but bingchilling themselves.
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now kinda worried...what happens if they dumpdivert such trash to poor Malay/viet/cambodian lands? the recycled matress material was puke.gif

if smell so strong, the consumer cant smell it meh after using the blanket?

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now kinda worried...what happens if they dumpdivert such trash to poor Malay/viet/cambodian lands?
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Competitive.
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COVID-19 'Very Likely' Originated from a US Lab | Jeffrey Sachs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3AYbl8mMnw

Jeffrey D. Sachs is University Professor and Director of the Center for Sustainable Development at Columbia University, President of the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network, and Chair of the Lancet COVID-19 Commission. Sachs has been advisor to three UN Secretaries-General, and currently serves as an SDG Advocate under Secretary-General António Guterres.

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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Apr 28 2025, 02:13 PM)
COVID-19 'Very Likely' Originated from a US Lab | Jeffrey Sachs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3AYbl8mMnw

Jeffrey D. Sachs is University Professor and Director of the Center for Sustainable Development at Columbia University, President of the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network, and Chair of the Lancet COVID-19 Commission. Sachs has been advisor to three UN Secretaries-General, and currently serves as an SDG Advocate under Secretary-General António Guterres.

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i thought Trump admin and elon musk already confirmed that Covid is designed by Fauci?
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good luck Type Cs

in 4 years PRC have produced close to 50m graduates, that's more than total population here

just 1% of them flocked here is already 10% of type C population

wumaos darkterror open legs welcome
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 28 2025, 02:25 PM)
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good luck Type Cs

in 4 years PRC have produced close to 50m graduates, that's more than total population here

just 1% of them flocked here is already 10% of type C population

wumaos darkterror open legs welcome
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Ma da post grad is already Majority prc amoi dun believe go see for yourself.
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Ma da post grad is already Majority prc amoi dun believe go see for yourself.
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What is ma da?
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What is ma da?
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 28 2025, 04:22 PM)
hehe just noticed the two winnie pooh teddy bears she put in every video....
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That way those wumao won't use her video.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 28 2025, 03:12 PM)
wuuuuuuut...
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‘Malaysia Is Little China’ M’sians Unhappy With Chinese Blogger’s Claims That M’sia Is A Smaller Version Of China

https://weirdkaya.com/malaysia-is-little-ch...rsion-of-china/
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Ma da post grad is already Majority prc amoi dun believe go see for yourself.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 28 2025, 02:25 PM)
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good luck Type Cs

in 4 years PRC have produced close to 50m graduates, that's more than total population here

just 1% of them flocked here is already 10% of type C population

wumaos darkterror open legs welcome
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no wonder so many of them become scammers and conmen


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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 28 2025, 11:35 PM)
Two years ago ady said.

‘Malaysia Is Little China’ M’sians Unhappy With Chinese Blogger’s Claims That M’sia Is A Smaller Version Of China

https://weirdkaya.com/malaysia-is-little-ch...rsion-of-china/
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 28 2025, 11:35 PM)
Two years ago ady said.

‘Malaysia Is Little China’ M’sians Unhappy With Chinese Blogger’s Claims That M’sia Is A Smaller Version Of China

https://weirdkaya.com/malaysia-is-little-ch...rsion-of-china/
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 28 2025, 02:54 PM)
So many ccp wumao in this tered lol
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any its so annoying

sikit sikit they use '' use your brain abit ''

they hold no valid argument in their words

they dont see how big the world is

its almost as if they are getting paid for it

if they no are not even getting paid to said that its pathetic

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its almost as if they are getting paid for it

if they no are not even getting paid to said that its pathetic
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I'm still waiting someone pay me to support Xi or Trump.
Heck, Arjib also can if pay much higher.
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who this auntie..?
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Apr 29 2025, 03:11 AM)
I'm still waiting someone pay me to support Xi or Trump.
Heck, Arjib also can if pay much higher.
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how is that someone with a functioning brain support or welcome communism

they clearly have not read any history

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All the best to Malaysian businesses and their workers

I really hope we survive and the people in power protect the local industries
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how is that someone with a functioning brain support or welcome communism

they clearly have not read any history
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china is a communist country ? you are an idiot .you can't understand even economy 101 .

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The current trade war is a long and painful one. The worst of times is coming..
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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Apr 29 2025, 07:19 AM)
The current trade war is a long and painful one. The worst of times is coming..
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More reason to choose local.
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:38 AM)
china is a communist country ? you are an idiot .you can't understand even economy 101 .
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There is no real communist country. Just like certain religion in Malaysia, it's been used to fool the people.
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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Apr 29 2025, 02:51 AM)
All the best to Malaysian businesses and their workers

I really hope we survive and the people in power protect the local industries
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sadly it will be very hard

unlike Thais and SG where they don't have racial issues, they see it as the thread towards all the people

Msia as long as CCP doesn't eat into type M's cake, they can do whatever they want, CCP just need to bribe the Malay elites, just like how they did in African continents, 90% of SMEs here owned by local Type Cs anyway

gullible Type C here can continue to suck their own kok, DAP included lohh


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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 29 2025, 10:28 AM)
sadly it will be very hard

unlike Thais and SG where they don't have racial issues, they see it as the thread towards all the people

Msia as long as CCP doesn't eat into type M's cake, they can do whatever they want, CCP just need to bribe the Malay elites, just like how they did in African continents, 90% of SMEs here owned by local Type Cs anyway

gullible Type C here can continue to suck their own kok, DAP included lohh
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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Apr 29 2025, 02:51 AM)
All the best to Malaysian businesses and their workers

I really hope we survive and the people in power protect the local industries
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The lady in the OP's video is probably Falungong spreading FUD to try to overthrow the CCP government in China.

For Malaysia, in general, more tourists, more foreign students, more FDI, more exports, more etc are good for Malaysia's economy, be it from CCP China or USA or Yemen.
....... If there are CCP China tourists working illegally in Malaysia, eg professional wedding photographers/videographers, the local Malaysian victims should just report them to the Immigration Department.
....... Of course, the Immigration Dept should also do enforcement operations regularly as a deterrence.

There may be special exceptions, eg the Malaysian government allowing CCP China's Geely to hire Chinese expert workers in Proton, whose expertise is not available in Malaysia, ... the government condoning the hiring of very cheap Indonesian illegal construction/renovation or manual workers, whose low pay, dirty work and long working hours are not accepted by many local Malaysian manual workers, etc, eg the locals prefer to be delivery riders or ehailing drivers.
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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:38 AM)
china is a communist country ? you are an idiot .you can't understand even economy 101 .
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ Apr 29 2025, 09:01 AM)
There is no real communist country. Just like certain religion in Malaysia, it's been used to fool the people.
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Politically, CCP China is a communist country, eg .......

1. no free and fair direct elections for the people to choose their political leaders,
2. one-party rule = no opposition party for check-and-balance or as an alternate choice for government,
3. authoritarianism or totalitarism = a repressive and brainwashing communist government, eg all companies, their CEOs and even celebrities in China have to toe the CCP line or else they would be "disappeared" from the industry/economy,
4. no freedom of speech or of religion or to peaceful protests/complaints = the people have been brainwashed by the controlled or censored mass-media news/socmed to be patriotic to the CCP/China,
5. etc.
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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Apr 29 2025, 07:19 AM)
The current trade war is a long and painful one. The worst of times is coming..
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Yes, don't see how it ends well. It is just going to get worse. Many people's worst nightmare could come true.
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how is that someone with a functioning brain support or welcome communism

they clearly have not read any history
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Communism - authoritative one-party state.

Singapore seems to be doing fine.
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china is a communist country ? you are an idiot .you can't understand even economy 101 .
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You are not illiterate right ? Read

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china is a communist country ? you are an idiot .you can't understand even economy 101 .
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Apr 29 2025, 05:51 PM)
Communism - authoritative one-party state.

Singapore seems to be doing fine.
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Copilot :
Communism is a system of social organization where all property is owned collectively by the community, and individuals contribute and receive based on their abilities and needs[](https://bing.com/search?q=definition+of+communism&citationMarker= "1").
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We are actually very blessed with our housing loans, policies, and lots of other perks compared to other nations. There will be more and more "investor" from China in coming years.
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We are actually very blessed with our housing loans, policies, and lots of other perks compared to other nations. There will be more and more "investor" from China in coming years.
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 29 2025, 05:59 PM)
You are not illiterate right ? Read

read wikipedia articles intelligently . anyone can write articles on wikipedia. read real economy books before answering this. i know one thing . you are an economy illiterate.
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read wikipedia articles intelligently . anyone can write articles  on wikipedia. read  real economy books before answering this. i know one thing . you are an economy illiterate.
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Communism - authoritative one-party state.

Singapore seems to be doing fine.
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Singapore politicians will not suddenly die or disappear lol
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Just ignore him.
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Sigh... his stupidity is radiating bright, could not avoid
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90 Days Visa free are benifit to both country. Alot Malaysian buisnessman also fly to China seeking more cheaper goods and bring it back to Malaysia selling....Smart people will using this 90 Days Visa free earn more money.


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So many bitter SME owners here haha. All suddenly bola kecut because Chyna is cumming for their rice bowl.

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So many bitter SME owners here haha. All suddenly bola kecut because Chyna is cumming for their rice bowl.
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Laugh now but don't cry when all you can buy is linglong tyre and chemical laden food.

We have a lot of small traditional cottage industry like soy sauce and sesame oil that are made with good quality ingredients and traditional ways. I value my own health and I support my fellow Malaysians. You want to eat those cheap Chinese chemicals go eat yourself.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Apr 30 2025, 11:03 AM)
Laugh now but don't cry when all you can buy is linglong tyre and chemical laden food.

We have a lot of small traditional cottage industry like soy sauce and sesame oil that are made with good quality ingredients and traditional ways. I value my own health and I support my fellow Malaysians. You want to eat those cheap Chinese chemicals go eat yourself.
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You talk as though as our local SMEs are concerned about the health of Malaysians. Ptuih

See how they wash the dishes. See the bananas why ripe so fast. Local SMEs are the same. Many more examples like fuzuk and tofu. Cottage industry my ass.

Ohh not to forget. They dump toxic waste into rivers. How many times Klang Valley water supply affected because of this? I say if local SMEs dai, then I'm sorry this has to happen. But competition is good for consumers. Work harder to give better products. Maybe first by actually giving less toxic laden food products.

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You talk as though as our local SMEs are concerned about the health of Malaysians. Ptuih

See how they wash the dishes. See the bananas why ripe so fast. Local SMEs are the same. Many more examples like fuzuk and tofu. Cottage industry my ass.
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Banana ripe so fast is controlled by using ethylene gas which is harmless. Don't know science but want to comment, lol.

I'm not talking about how they care about our health. I'm talking about they still using real ingredients, not chemical production. Chinese soy sauce is a good example, Chinese companies have local version and export to Western country versions. Why? Export version has way less chemical. That's why.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Apr 30 2025, 11:14 AM)
Banana ripe so fast is controlled by using ethylene gas which is harmless. Don't know science but want to comment, lol.

I'm not talking about how they care about our health. I'm talking about they still using real ingredients, not chemical production. Chinese soy sauce is a good example, Chinese companies have local version and export to Western country versions. Why? Export version has way less chemical. That's why.
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Harmless my ass. How do you know it is ethylene and not calcium carbide?

Please don't bring in the "ripe faster cheaper for consumers. If don't make it ripe faster, can you afford or not" argument.
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Apr 30 2025, 09:53 AM)
90 Days Visa free are benifit to both country. Alot Malaysian buisnessman also fly to China seeking more cheaper goods and bring it back to Malaysia selling....Smart people will using this 90 Days Visa free earn more money.
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For a nation where contracts are honored, yes. I agree with you.
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Apr 30 2025, 11:08 AM)
You talk as though as our local SMEs are concerned about the health of Malaysians. Ptuih

See how they wash the dishes. See the bananas why ripe so fast. Local SMEs are the same. Many more examples like fuzuk and tofu. Cottage industry my ass.

Ohh not to forget. They dump toxic waste into rivers. How many times Klang Valley water supply affected because of this? I say if local SMEs dai, then I'm sorry this has to happen. But competition is good for consumers. Work harder to give better products. Maybe first by actually giving less toxic laden food products.
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More reason why should be wary of China industry that is reputabled to be worst.
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Apr 30 2025, 11:08 AM)
You talk as though as our local SMEs are concerned about the health of Malaysians. Ptuih

See how they wash the dishes. See the bananas why ripe so fast. Local SMEs are the same. Many more examples like fuzuk and tofu. Cottage industry my ass.

Ohh not to forget. They dump toxic waste into rivers. How many times Klang Valley water supply affected because of this? I say if local SMEs dai, then I'm sorry this has to happen. But competition is good for consumers. Work harder to give better products. Maybe first by actually giving less toxic laden food products.
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Greed and Corruption are spurred on by Money. Western companies also do this all the time.

You see the FREE Adobe Reader software to read PDFs. They insert a small additional software into your download called McAfee Security Scan Plus, and the opt out is not clear to most people. So sneaky. Last time (like 15 years ago) they never did such shit to this degree. Nowadays many corrupted businesses are doing all kinds of shit. Really BAD now.

Few months ago, Adobe inserted other bloatware/malware into your download.

The only difference between Western and China/Eastern system is the better or worse argument. China is still worse but doesn't mean Western is all good. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Apr 30 2025, 11:03 AM)
Laugh now but don't cry when all you can buy is linglong tyre and chemical laden food.

We have a lot of small traditional cottage industry like soy sauce and sesame oil that are made with good quality ingredients and traditional ways. I value my own health and I support my fellow Malaysians. You want to eat those cheap Chinese chemicals go eat yourself.
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If same product n quality for sure i choose with my wallet. No tome to consider local or foreign seller.
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 30 2025, 06:59 PM)
Greed and Corruption are spurred on by Money. Western companies also do this all the time.

You see the FREE Adobe Reader software to read PDFs. They insert a small additional software into your download called McAfee Security Scan Plus, and the opt out is not clear to most people. So sneaky. Last time (like 15 years ago) they never did such shit to this degree. Nowadays many corrupted businesses are doing all kinds of shit. Really BAD now.

Few months ago, Adobe inserted other bloatware/malware into your download.

The only difference between Western and China/Eastern system is the better or worse argument. China is still worse but doesn't mean Western is all good.  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 30 2025, 06:59 PM)
Greed and Corruption are spurred on by Money. Western companies also do this all the time.

You see the FREE Adobe Reader software to read PDFs. They insert a small additional software into your download called McAfee Security Scan Plus, and the opt out is not clear to most people. So sneaky. Last time (like 15 years ago) they never did such shit to this degree. Nowadays many corrupted businesses are doing all kinds of shit. Really BAD now.

Few months ago, Adobe inserted other bloatware/malware into your download.

The only difference between Western and China/Eastern system is the better or worse argument. China is still worse but doesn't mean Western is all good.  whistling.gif
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Exactly. If locals western and Chinese all also bad, and Chyna is cheapest, what would a typical consumer do? Support local? When gula naik 30 sen local company ada ke support rakyat? When inflation berlambak tinggi local company ada ke support rakyat?
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Apr 30 2025, 10:23 PM)
Exactly. If locals western and Chinese all also bad, and Chyna is cheapest, what would a typical consumer do? Support local? When gula naik 30 sen local company ada ke support rakyat? When inflation berlambak tinggi local company ada ke support rakyat?
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There is a reason why it can be made cheaper. When it comes to food and safety, don't just choose the cheapest.
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There is a reason why it can be made cheaper. When it comes to food and safety, don't just choose the cheapest.
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Perhaps local SMEs are just not willing to put in more effort to be competitive and coming out with excuses and fear mongering.

Anyway it is up to local SMEs. They can choose to continue offer bad value, or change and offer better value. Let the market decide the winner. But if local SMEs ask for ploteksyen....
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There is a reason why it can be made cheaper. When it comes to food and safety, don't just choose the cheapest.
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Lets get it straight, many understand this already. There are things non-negotiable and shouldn't skim. What it is depends on who's answering u.

We are talking about those scenarios whereby the local seller is selling the same damn thing as from Chyna platforms for 50% and more. Cutting the middleman is a smart way to be kind to yourself and family - a fool and his money are soon be apart
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Perhaps local SMEs are just not willing to put in more effort to be competitive and coming out with excuses and fear mongering.

Anyway it is up to local SMEs. They can choose to continue offer bad value, or change and offer better value. Let the market decide the winner. But if local SMEs ask for ploteksyen....
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There are good local brands. Secret recipe, burger byte, just to name a couple.
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There are good local brands. Secret recipe, burger byte, just to name a couple.
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singapore politicians are far more intellectual than local politicians . have any
singapore politicians mentioned China is a communist country in the last 30 years ? NO.
I know most of commentators in the thread are foolish and illiterate .help yourself and do not talk rot.
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singapore politicians are far more intellectual than local politicians . have any
  singapore politicians mentioned China is a communist country in the last 30 years ? NO.
I know most of commentators in the thread are foolish and illiterate   .help yourself and do not talk rot.
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Lee Hsien Loong speech in 2024 as senior minister.
So wat tokok you want to spin now?
You yourself should heed your own advice and help yourself and do not talk rot here also.

Today’s Singapore may give the impression that the country has always been orderly and stable. But this was far from so. Our beginnings were turbulent. Like many other countries, we fought against our colonial masters – in our case, Britain – for the right to determine our own destiny. We eventually succeeded and achieved first self-government, which is internal, and then full independence. Along the way, we had to choose whether to have a left-wing and pro-communist government, or a democratic and non-communist government. It was a big political battle, especially as our population was majority ethnic Chinese, with strong ethnic and family ties to Communist China.

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ May 3 2025, 03:20 PM)
Lee Hsien Loong speech in 2024 as senior minister.
So wat tokok you want to spin now?
You yourself should heed your own advice and help yourself and do not talk rot here also.

It was a big political battle, especially as our population was majority ethnic Chinese, with strong ethnic and family ties to Communist China.
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Lee Hsien Loong was referring to the China during Singapore's merging with Malaya, 60 years ago.
China is no longer communist now, since they have millionaires/ billionaires and religion there now. They consider themselves Socialists government now.

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Lee Hsien Loong was referring to the China during Singapore's merging with Malaya, 60 years ago.
China is no longer communist now, since they have millionaires/ billionaires and religion there now. They consider themselves Socialists government now.
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Correct. China is ruled by the Capitalist Party of China aka Chinese Capitalist Party.
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Lee Hsien Loong was referring to the China during Singapore's merging with Malaya, 60 years ago.
China is no longer communist now, since they have millionaires/ billionaires and religion there now. They consider themselves Socialists government now.
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Still mentioned as communist china recently though.

Its difficult to convince others that they are not a communist country when the ruling party is still called Chinese Communist Party.

People do not mention me by my nationality in the last 30 years does not mean im not Malaysian.

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 3 2025, 04:09 PM)
Correct. China is ruled by the Capitalist Party of China aka Chinese Capitalist Party.
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Lee Kuan Yew talks about the Failure of Maoism and Deng Xiaoping’s shift towards Capitalism

https://correctphilippines.org/lky_mao_deng/

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Correct. China is ruled by the Capitalist Party of China aka Chinese Capitalist Party.
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CPC was communist when it was founded in 1921, but after Deng Xiaoping's reforms it has practiced something more akin to socialism. No need to change name, cos it's just a name anyways.
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ May 3 2025, 04:21 PM)
People do not mention me by my nationality in the 30 years does not mean im not Malaysian.
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It matters if the were mentioning you in the present or past tense.

e.g If you'd gotten Singaporean citizenship 10 years ago, your mum could still say :

"Today’s Coolpink may give the impression that the he has always been orderly and stable. But this was far from so. His beginnings were turbulent. Like many other Malaysian nons he fought against the bumi quota, unfair allocation of scholarships, ASB etc..He eventually succeeded by becoming a Singaporean.


and not be inaccurate, that you were Malaysian/communist last time but am a Singaporean/socialist now.

Here's why China isn't communist now, even if it wanted to be.
It has the 2nd highest number of millionaires and billionaires in the world. It has 40000 mosques, with more being built. The oldest mosque in the world is in China, and it didnt get purge/ destroyed by anti-religious "communists".



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CPC was communist when it was founded in 1921, but after Deng Xiaoping's reforms it has practiced something more akin to socialism. No need to change name, cos it's just a name anyways.
“It does not matter if the cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice”. -Deng
It matters if the were mentioning you in the present or past tense.

e.g If you'd gotten Singaporean citizenship 10 years ago, your mum could still say :

"Today’s Coolpink may give the impression that the he has always been orderly and stable. But this was far from so. His beginnings were turbulent. Like many other Malaysian nons he fought against the bumi quota, unfair allocation of scholarships, ASB etc..He eventually succeeded by becoming a Singaporean.


and not be inaccurate, that you were Malaysian/communist last time but am a Singaporean/socialist now.

Here's why China isn't communist now, even if it wanted to be.
It has the 2nd highest number of millionaires and billionaires in the world. It has 40000 mosques, with more being built. The oldest mosque in the world is in China, and it didnt get purge/ destroyed by  anti-religious "communists".
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You ever noticed until now CCP themselves never declared they are not communist country anymore and ever wondered why?

Russia declared they are a democracy back in the 90s and we all know its not a true democracy just like many other countries yet we still consider them a democracy so go figure.

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You ever noticed until now CCP themselves never declared they are not communist country anymore and ever wondered why?

Russia declared they are a democracy back in the 90s and we a know its not a true democracy just like many other countries yet we still consider them a democracy so go figure.
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ May 3 2025, 06:25 PM)
You ever noticed until now CCP themselves never declared they are not communist country anymore and ever wondered why?

Russia declared they are a democracy back in the 90s and we all know its not a true democracy just like many other countries yet we still consider them a democracy so go figure.
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They didn't declare they are "not communist", but as socialist. Words from the Emperor himself.


Also can be clearly seen in how they govern themselves, policies enacted, no state owned corporations etc....

America also calls itself a democracy, when it's quite clear to everyone else that it's more like a Plutocracy.

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They didn't declare they are "not communist", but referred to themselves as socialist. Words from the Emperor himself.


Also can be clearly seen in how they govern themselves, policies enacted etc....
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As long as China remains a dictatorship it will still be viewed as a communism by others.

Ideology changes with time and society needs as it should be.
That is why there are many variations over the millennia.

Marxism-Leninism is a communist ideology developed by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, and further developed by Vladimir Lenin and Stalin, which emphasizes the proletariat's role in revolution and the establishment of a socialist state.

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As long as China remains a dictatorship it will still be viewed as a communism by others.

Ideology changes with time and society needs as it should be.
That is why there are many variations over the millennia.

Marxism-Leninism is a communist ideology developed by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, and further developed by Vladimir Lenin and Stalin, which emphasizes the proletariat's role in revolution and the establishment of a socialist state.
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singapore politicians are far more intellectual than local politicians . have any
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I know most of commentators in the thread are foolish and illiterate  .help yourself and do not talk rot.
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this is the extreme example of a wumaos that is beyond saving. stupidity to the core until clueless tat CCP is a communist party and china is a communist country.


terpaling bodo kayu
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ May 3 2025, 08:17 PM)
They didn't declare they are "not communist", but as socialist. Words from the Emperor himself.


Also can be clearly seen in how they govern themselves, policies enacted, no state owned corporations etc....

America also calls itself a democracy, when it's quite clear to everyone else that it's more like a Plutocracy.
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Fyi, Kim Jong Un is the self-proclaimed "democratic" leader of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea or DPRK, who has been elected directly by the people in free and fair elections every 4 years, like in USA and Malaysia. *sic*
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 3 2025, 09:09 PM)
this is the extreme example of a wumaos that is beyond saving. stupidity to the core until clueless tat CCP is a communist party and china is a communist country.
terpaling bodo kayu
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Sigh....AMDK AMDK AMDK.... always resorting to name calling and insults when unable to argue with anymore points or facts.

None of us wumaos wanna be "saved" by your warped perception of China le. You all still hold on to the old tropes of China being an uncivilised backwater filled with peasants, only able to copy all the advances the benevolent West grants on them through the WTO (while taking just a little bit of profit only, really one, not bluffing), in the hopes of evolving them from minimal-wage earning slave labourers under an autocratic forever- leader that imprison and steals their organs, to a higher-income (but not too high, can't have that..noooo sir-ee Bob), democratic freedom-loving nation ruled by billionaires and corporations like them.

Go save yourselves is a more pressing issue, with how fast China is advancing in renewables, industrial automation, self driving, nuclear fusion, space exploration and satellite technology, medical cures for previously incurable diseases, solving world food production issues by turning desserts into grassland and mini- oceans to farm seafood, all for a fraction of the price as compared to the Western profit- centers..... China is gonna save your future while you still persist with your 20th century prejudices of it, paid for by the oligarchs in the White House and the CIA.

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 3 2025, 11:01 PM)
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Fyi, Kim Jong Un is the self-proclaimed "democratic" leader of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea or DPRK, who has been elected directly by the people in free and fair elections every 4 years, like in USA and Malaysia. *sic*
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But we're all smart enough to actually SEE how North Korea is not democratic, right? Their leadership is passed down father to son etc... that's called using our brains to make an educated judgement, that Korea is NOT a democracy even IF they call themselves a democracy. Congratulations on unlocking new ability!!

Now try using new capability with China still calling itself the CPC, but somehow allowing religious freedom, gay clubs, millionaires, billionaires, poweful and trailbalzing Huawei being owned not by the CPC but by its employees (99% employees, 1% founder) and Xi having to listen to the NPC on an annual basis (I thought dictators no need to listen, or even pretend to listen, to peasants??)

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Fuck all that actual shit, they still communist cos they didn't change their name. Communists BAD -ADMK's.

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 3 2025, 04:09 PM)
Correct. China is ruled by the Capitalist Party of China aka Chinese Capitalist Party.
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ya, it is shameful to call them as communist.
as they are richer than us. we used to fight PKM in jungle.
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Whatever political system u guys want to call China, it is also this system that allows them to achieve this greatness within 1 generation. While the others r being fuxk by big bully US, only CHINA dares US n challenge them. Others r raped n still need to run to them n beg.
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QUOTE(MGM @ May 4 2025, 07:55 AM)
Whatever political system u guys want to call China, it is also this system that allows them to achieve this greatness within 1 generation. While the others r being fuxk by big bully US, only CHINA dares US n challenge them. Others r raped n still need to run to them n beg.
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Sigh....AMDK AMDK AMDK.... always resorting to name calling and insults when unable to argue with anymore points or facts.

None of us wumaos wanna be "saved" by your warped perception of China le. You all still hold on to the old tropes of China being an uncivilised backwater filled with peasants, only able to copy all the advances the benevolent West grants on them through the WTO (while taking just a little bit of profit only, really one, not bluffing), in the hopes of evolving them from minimal-wage earning slave labourers under an autocratic forever- leader that imprison and steals their organs, to a higher-income (but not too high, can't have that..noooo sir-ee Bob), democratic freedom-loving nation ruled by billionaires and corporations like them.

Go save yourselves is a more pressing issue, with how fast China is advancing in renewables, industrial automation, self driving, nuclear fusion, space exploration and satellite technology, medical cures for previously incurable diseases, solving world food production issues by turning desserts into grassland and mini- oceans to farm seafood, all for a fraction of the price as compared to the Western profit- centers..... China is gonna save your future while you still persist with your 20th century prejudices of it, paid for by the oligarchs in the White House and the CIA.
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Lee Hsien Loong was referring to the China during Singapore's merging with Malaya, 60 years ago.
China is no longer communist now, since they have millionaires/ billionaires and religion there now. They consider themselves Socialists government now.
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So means CCP now do election where its citizen vote for their parties rep...eh wait how many political parties in china ? Oh yes, it is only one and only one. CCPPPPP

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Frankly, if you are getting priced out of the market AFTER you take into account the flight ticket, transport and accommodations the china teams are paying just to come over, maybe you really should reconsider your business model.
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Tell this to immigration when you visit Australia, Singapore, EU, UK, Japan, USA, new Zealand, uae, etc.

Ignorance is bliss.


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So means CCP now do election where its citizen vote for their parties rep...eh wait how many political parties in china ? Oh yes, it is only one and only one. CCPPPPP
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It is not a democracy. But Trump just showcased the folly of the "superior" Murican democratic system to the world. A determined president holds a lot of power. Until now it remains to be seen which is better:
a dictator, or an out of control, democratically elected president ruling via executive decree

Or are they the same?

QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 4 2025, 09:53 AM)
Tell this to immigration when you visit Australia, Singapore, EU, UK, Japan, USA, new Zealand, uae, etc.

Ignorance is bliss.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 10:08 AM)
It is not a democracy. But Trump just showcased the folly of the "superior" Murican democratic system to the world. A determined president holds a lot of power. Until now it remains to be seen which is better:
a dictator, or an out of control, democratically elected president ruling via executive decree

Or are they the same?
If butthurt, tell Malaysian immigration lor
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As crazy as trump is, he can be constrain by checks and balance. The recent postpone is a good example.
No such thing in China. Mass killing of birds, mass starvation, mass metal works, mass prosecution of land owners and educated, and the recent total lock down, uncontrolled housing prices, job market, mass retrenchment, KK Park, organ harvest, metal chain girl, food safety, mass children attack...
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 10:08 AM)
It is not a democracy. But Trump just showcased the folly of the "superior" Murican democratic system to the world. A determined president holds a lot of power. Until now it remains to be seen which is better:
a dictator, or an out of control, democratically elected president ruling via executive decree

Or are they the same?
If butthurt, tell Malaysian immigration lor
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But trump cannot go againt congress, both dem and repubican got a say. Cant say the same with xi
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QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 4 2025, 11:38 AM)
As crazy as trump is, he can be constrain by checks and balance. The recent postpone is a good example.
No such thing in China. Mass killing of birds, mass starvation, mass metal works, mass prosecution of land owners and educated, and the recent total lock down, uncontrolled housing prices, job market, mass retrenchment, KK Park, organ harvest, metal chain girl, food safety, mass children attack...
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Not really. Any action that Trump takes is because it impacts him directly somehow. If he doesn't want to do something, there is not much that anyone can do. The check and balance system in the US is not really useful right now.

This is from a recent interview with Trump. Basically asked the Supreme Court to go fly kite.

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“You could get him back. There’s a phone on this desk,” ABC News’ Terry Moran said to which the president responded “I could”. Moran added “You could pick it up and with all the power of the presidency, you could call up the President of El Salvador and say, ‘Send him back’.”

But President Trump blamed the US government’s lawyer and said he shouldn’t have said that it was a mistake to send Garcia back and claimed that Garcia is a member of the criminal MS-13 gang and “is not an innocent, wonderful gentleman from Maryland.”

The US government agreed in court last month that Abrego Garcia, a Maryland resident, was deported due to an administrative error despite a 2019 court ruling which barred the authorities from sending him back to El Salvador where his life could be in danger.

But the US authorities have since refused to bring back Garcia as they state they do not have authority to force El Salvador to return the Maryland man. Attorney General Pam Bondi, in an interaction with reporters had said “That’s up to El Salvador if they want to return him. That’s not up to us.”

edit: lupa sos, sorry
https://indianexpress.com/article/world/tru...ruling-9975914/

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 4 2025, 11:43 AM)
But trump cannot go againt congress, both dem and repubican got a say. Cant say the same with xi
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well

Vice President Vance casts tie-breaking Senate vote to kill bipartisan effort to rebuke Trump’s trade policy
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/governme...icy/ar-AA1DWRHq

but even if it passed

Trump threatens to veto Senate bill limiting his tariff power
https://thehill.com/homenews/5236226-trump-...threatens-veto/

so, yeah
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well

Vice President Vance casts tie-breaking Senate vote to kill bipartisan effort to rebuke Trump’s trade policy
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/governme...icy/ar-AA1DWRHq

but even if it passed

Trump threatens to veto Senate bill limiting his tariff power
https://thehill.com/homenews/5236226-trump-...threatens-veto/

so, yeah
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But u forgot the fact that trump is limited to 5 year (term) which is after that he bungkus liao.


Meanwhile xi is since 2012. Atleast US citizen has a say every 5 years

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But u forgot the fact that trump is limited to 5 year (term) which is after that he bungkus liao.
Meanwhile xi is since 2012. Atleast US citizen has a say every 5 years
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> Not only 5 year term, 29sen army keep talking about midterm elections.

> 29sen army very bising when Trump talk about 3rd term, but when you ask whether Xi Jinping should step aside and let someone else lead, 29sen army can't answer you.
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 4 2025, 12:00 PM)
But u forgot the fact that trump is limited to 5 year (term) which is after that he bungkus liao.
Meanwhile xi is since 2012. Atleast US citizen has a say every 5 years
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ahh yes, the founding fathers, in their wisdom, made it so that every president will be limited to 2 terms.

after all, how much damage can one man do in 4 years?

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 4 2025, 09:33 AM)
So means CCP now do election where its citizen vote for their parties rep...eh wait how many political parties in china ? Oh yes, it is only one and only one. CCPPPPP
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2025, 12:06 PM)
> Not only 5 year term, 29sen army keep talking about midterm elections.

> 29sen army very bising when Trump talk about 3rd term, but when you ask whether Xi Jinping should step aside and let someone else lead, 29sen army can't answer you.
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Yeah man

QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 12:17 PM)
ahh yes, the founding fathers, in their wisdom, made it so that every president will be limited to 2 terms.

after all, how much damage can one man do in 4 years?

Trump: user posted image

lol, at this point I think the only sure thing preventing a Trump 3.0 is old age.
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4 yeas vs 13 years lol. Atleast i can confirm xi wont step down anytime soon. Trump expected in 4 years because u need 2/3 congress support to abolish 2nd term limit liao
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QUOTE(70U63 @ May 4 2025, 12:20 PM)
rclxms.gif I bet u didn't know China has more than one political parties.  icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 4 2025, 12:06 PM)
> Not only 5 year term, 29sen army keep talking about midterm elections.

> 29sen army very bising when Trump talk about 3rd term, but when you ask whether Xi Jinping should step aside and let someone else lead, 29sen army can't answer you.
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It is a different system. It is similar to workers in a company, at most you can elect supervisors or foremen. Then they work their way up the corporate ladder. No matter how you shout, you cannot change the CEO. Only the board can do that. There are pros and cons to this.

If you asked me, before Trump 2.0, which system is better, I would definitely say Murica with their checks and balances. No second thoughts. Today, I am not so sure.
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 4 2025, 12:20 PM)
Yeah man
4 yeas vs 13 years lol. Atleast i can confirm xi wont step down anytime soon. Trump expected in 4 years because u need 2/3 congress support to abolish 2nd term limit liao
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Mamak 22 years, we also rilek je. We even re-elected the guy (via his party at that time)!

So what is 13 years lol?

Xi is 71, Trump is 78. Most likely there will not be Trump 3.0, Biden was 81 when Trump bullied him off the seat. Somebody else will bully Trump at that time laugh.gif

Hopefully sweat.gif


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Got meh ? Ok show now
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 12:29 PM)
Mamak 22 years, we also rilek je. We even re-elected the guy (via his party at that time)!

So what is 13 years lol?

Xi is 71, Trump is 78. Most likely there will not be Trump 3.0, Biden was 81 when Trump bullied him off the seat. Somebody else will bully Trump at that time laugh.gif

Hopefully sweat.gif
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Yes, but as bad as mamak, we don't have the mass death, mass everything from China.
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Biden bukan kena bullied by Trump, he was 'bullied' by Democrats doh.gif Democrats shocked when they saw Biden performance during the debate. Before that, they pretend Biden was still 'OK' to run for second term. innocent.gif

QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 12:29 PM)
Xi is 71, Trump is 78. Most likely there will not be Trump 3.0, Biden was 81 when Trump bullied him off the seat. Somebody else will bully Trump at that time laugh.gif
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Yes, but as bad as mamak, we don't have the mass death, mass everything from China.
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But that's the point. The US system, is dependent on the will of the masses choosing someone who won't bring the country to Holland.

If you get someone popular but ... well there is really not much anyone can do if he starts to act like a dictator.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 12:29 PM)
Mamak 22 years, we also rilek je. We even re-elected the guy (via his party at that time)!

So what is 13 years lol?

Xi is 71, Trump is 78. Most likely there will not be Trump 3.0, Biden was 81 when Trump bullied him off the seat. Somebody else will bully Trump at that time laugh.gif

Hopefully sweat.gif
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Because u all voted MCA wei. Deswai
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 12:34 PM)
But that's the point. The US system, is dependent on the will of the masses choosing someone who won't bring the country to Holland.

If you get someone popular but ... well there is really not much anyone can do if he starts to act like a dictator.
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I'll take US system, as abad as it is now over Xi's great firewall, any day.
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 4 2025, 12:38 PM)
Because u all voted MCA wei. Deswai
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Kek Indian vote also save BN before. Luckily ayam DAP guy since zaman LKS.

QUOTE(samftrmd @ May 4 2025, 12:38 PM)
I'll take US system, as abad as it is now over Xi's great firewall, any day.
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Pros and cons la. Not all good, not all bad. In one or two generations, from a very poor country to the only country with the balls to stand up to Trump's bullying. That is admirable.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 12:44 PM)
Kek Indian vote also save BN before. Luckily ayam DAP guy since zaman LKS.
Pros and cons la. Not all good, not all bad. In one or two generations, from a very poor country to the only country with the balls to stand up to Trump's bullying. That is admirable.
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Same la,

Ayam voted DAP/PKR consistently since my first vote.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 12:44 PM)
Kek Indian vote also save BN before. Luckily ayam DAP guy since zaman LKS.
Pros and cons la. Not all good, not all bad. In one or two generations, from a very poor country to the only country with the balls to stand up to Trump's bullying. That is admirable.
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Yes, but at what cost?
During the early days of Xi, China was so welcomed by everyone. Their maker culture is rising, lots of big corporations moving in. YouTube wasn't banned.
Now they are practicing Imperio system. Their people's speech is heavily censored. The lockdown has been devastating. Their banks limit withdrawal. Housing market has no sign of recovery, the most popular job is no longer factory worker, but delivery gig jobs that has even less pay and less financial security.
I say the cost is too much. It doesn't need to be like this. Xi's early rise proved so.
Under Xi, if he is ruling Malaysia, you won't even have /k as it is now.
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She has a typical Malay Tonhkak mentality. Work little earn kawkaw. When she is priced out of the market cry father cry mother blame gomen.
For her info, Most Chinese are richer than us They wont come here to worl as koolie like bangla or Pakis. Most come here to spend money
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QUOTE(r3d2 @ May 4 2025, 01:44 PM)
She has a typical Malay Tonhkak mentality. Work little earn kawkaw. When she is priced out of the market cry father cry mother blame gomen.
For her info, Most Chinese are richer than us They wont come here to worl as koolie like bangla or Pakis. Most come here to spend money
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Yes, everyone's dream is to work more for less money.
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QUOTE(r3d2 @ May 4 2025, 01:44 PM)
She has a typical Malay Tonhkak mentality. Work little earn kawkaw. When she is priced out of the market cry father cry mother blame gomen.
For her info, Most Chinese are richer than us They wont come here to worl as koolie like bangla or Pakis. Most come here to spend money
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Must have fell asleep the last few weeks when it’s the Chinese sme crying for tongkat to plotek their biz

Brother everyone also want tongkat la if it’s available. Why need to frame melei this that just to show your racism.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 4 2025, 01:58 PM)
Must have fell asleep the last few weeks when it’s the Chinese sme crying for tongkat to plotek their biz

Brother everyone also want tongkat la if it’s available. Why need to frame melei this that just to show your racism.
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> He chastise her for working less for more money.

> He said China people don't want to work like Bangla.

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ May 4 2025, 07:08 AM)
But we're all smart enough to actually SEE how North Korea is not democratic, right? Their leadership is passed down father to son etc... that's called using our brains to make an educated judgement, that Korea is NOT a democracy even IF they call themselves a democracy. Congratulations on unlocking new ability!!

Now try using new capability with China still calling itself the CPC, but somehow allowing religious freedom, gay clubs, millionaires, billionaires, poweful and trailbalzing Huawei being owned not by the CPC but by its employees (99% employees, 1% founder) and Xi having to listen to the NPC on an annual basis (I thought dictators no need to listen, or even pretend to listen,  to peasants??)

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Fuck all that actual shit, they still communist cos they didn't change their name. Communists BAD -ADMK's.
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Fyi, .......

Gemini AI Overview

The CCP exerts significant control over the National People's Congress (NPC) through a combination of nomination and election processes, ensuring that its members are largely CCP members and that the NPC largely rubber-stamps decisions made by the CCP.

= the NPC consists of 3,000 members with only a handful of non-influential or puppet members representing minorities.

Gemini AI Overview

While the Chinese constitution guarantees freedom of religious belief, in practice, religious freedom is significantly restricted and not fully protected. The government limits religious practice to what it considers "normal" and requires religious institutions to uphold the Chinese Communist Party's leadership and promote "sinicization" of religion. This has led to persecution and restrictions on certain religious groups, particularly Christianity, Islam, and Tibetan Buddhism.

= typical bait-and-switch scam tactics by CCP China to "want face" in the international stage = macam CCP China's two-faced (变脸) face-changing shows.
....... In effect, you and other wumaos got politically scammed or brainwashed by CCP China.

AFAIK, CCP China just see their people, workers, billionaires, CEOs, Huawei, BYD, Comac, etc as tools to be controlled/manipulated to accomplish their evil communist objectives, eg to dethrone democratic USA as the world superpower by hook and by crook.
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QUOTE(MGM @ May 4 2025, 07:55 AM)
Whatever political system u guys want to call China, it is also this system that allows them to achieve this greatness within 1 generation. While the others r being fuxk by big bully US, only CHINA dares US n challenge them. Others r raped n still need to run to them n beg.
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Who is the BIG bully in the South China Sea.?
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Vietnam?

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Who is the BIG bully in the South China Sea.?
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 10:08 AM)
It is not a democracy. But Trump just showcased the folly of the "superior" Murican democratic system to the world. A determined president holds a lot of power. Until now it remains to be seen which is better:
a dictator, or an out of control, democratically elected president ruling via executive decree

Or are they the same?
If butthurt, tell Malaysian immigration lor
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Hasn't Trump's Executive Orders got challenged in court.? If Trump is worse and out of control, it will only be for 4 years until a new President gets voted by the American people in 2028. Not so if President-for-life Xi Jinping is worse and out of control.

Are they the same.?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 4 2025, 02:19 PM)
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Hasn't Trump's Executive Orders got challenged in court.? If Trump is worse and out of control, it will only be for 4 years until a new President gets voted by the American people in 2028. Not so if President-for-life  Xi Jinping is worse and out of control.

Are they the same.?
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But is Xi out of control? Still a round and fuzzy friend after 12 years.

We only had 100 days of Trump 2.0 before he executed a heel turn. Now he is this crazy orange guy threatening an island of penguins.

No they are not the same.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 12:29 PM)
Mamak 22 years, we also rilek je. We even re-elected the guy (via his party at that time)!

So what is 13 years lol?

Xi is 71, Trump is 78. Most likely there will not be Trump 3.0, Biden was 81 when Trump bullied him off the seat. Somebody else will bully Trump at that time laugh.gif

Hopefully sweat.gif
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 12:44 PM)
Kek Indian vote also save BN before. Luckily ayam DAP guy since zaman LKS.
Apples and oranges, ie Malaysian politics is race-baed, esp in Semenanjung and Mahathir/UMNO was then very popular among the Malays for fighting for Malay interests.

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Pros and cons la. Not all good, not all bad. In one or two generations, from a very poor country to the only country with the balls to stand up to Trump's bullying. That is admirable.
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CCP China got rich after USA allowed it to join the WTO in 2003, by largely cheating on its commitments to USA, by exploiting its huge pool of "slave workers", stealing technology, forced technology transfer imposed on FDI, hacking foreign companies, selling copied/pirated Fake products, scamming the world with its EVs, etc. Is that admirable.? .......

QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Mar 13 2024, 03:18 PM)
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Fyi, since 1999, CCP China has cheated it's way in world trade to become an economic superpower. .......

https://itif.org/publications/2021/07/26/fa...tments-and-its/ - False Promises II: The Continuing Gap Between China’s WTO Commitments and Its Practices
By Stephen Ezell - July 26, 2021

Nearly 20 years after joining the World Trade Organization, China remains woefully short of meeting a broad range of commitments and responsibilities, to the detriment of both its trading partners and the international economic system.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

- China’s state-led economic model, driven heavily by innovation-mercantilist practices, stands at odds with the foundational WTO principles of pursuing market-oriented policies while providing non-discrimination, national treatment, and reciprocity.

- China has failed to meet numerous WTO commitments on issues such as industrial subsidization, protection of foreign intellectual property, forcing joint ventures and technology transfer, and providing market access to services industries.

- China’s behavior toward the WTO and its trading partners is that of a nation that knew what it had to promise to enter the organization, but its subsequent actions have demonstrated it never intended to keep those promises.

- Decades of gaming the global trading system and failing to meet WTO commitments have enabled China to accumulate tremendous trade surpluses and foreign currency reserves, which it uses to pursue domestic and foreign policy objectives.


- It is time for like-minded nations to join together to forcefully insist that China come into full and immediate compliance with all its WTO commitments and more broadly to contest China’s innovation-mercantilist strategies.
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Remember, evil-gotten riches (eg billionaires) often do not last >3 generations, ie the grandchildren and great-grandchildren will lose it all, eg the Kennedy Curse.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109332498
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 02:28 PM)
But is Xi out of control? Still a round and fuzzy friend after 12 years.

We only had 100 days of Trump 2.0 before he executed a heel turn. Now he is this crazy orange guy threatening an island of penguins.

No they are not the same.
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In trying to repair the US economy wrt trade deficits and CCP China's unfair trade practices, Trump is just fine-tuning his recent Tariffs policy, not heel-turn or U-Turn.
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Let's wait-and-see until 2028 who will come out worse in the US-China trade war.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ May 4 2025, 02:28 PM)
But is Xi out of control? Still a round and fuzzy friend after 12 years.

No they are not the same.
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Reserve judgement. If Taiwan invaded before he retire then you have my answer.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 4 2025, 02:46 PM)
Reserve judgement. If Taiwan invaded before he retire then you have my answer.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 4 2025, 02:08 PM)
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Fyi, .......

Gemini AI Overview

The CCP exerts significant control over the National People's Congress (NPC) through a combination of nomination and election processes, ensuring that its members are largely CCP members and that the NPC largely rubber-stamps decisions made by the CCP.

= the NPC consists of 3,000 members with only a handful of non-influential or puppet members representing minorities.

Gemini AI Overview

While the Chinese constitution guarantees freedom of religious belief, in practice, religious freedom is significantly restricted and not fully protected. The government limits religious practice to what it considers "normal" and requires religious institutions to uphold the Chinese Communist Party's leadership and promote "sinicization" of religion. This has led to persecution and restrictions on certain religious groups, particularly Christianity, Islam, and Tibetan Buddhism. 

= typical bait-and-switch scam tactics by CCP China to "want face" in the international stage = macam CCP China's two-faced (变脸)  face-changing shows.
....... In effect, you and other wumaos got politically scammed or brainwashed by CCP China.

AFAIK, CCP China just see their people, workers, billionaires, CEOs, Huawei, BYD, Comac, etc as tools to be controlled/manipulated to  accomplish their evil communist objectives, eg to dethrone democratic USA as the world superpower by hook and by crook.
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Need to use AI to argue for you? Everything your precious Gemini AI said has no basis, just fact-less accusations.
Where's the example of "The government limits religious practice to what it considers "normal" and requires religious institutions to uphold the Chinese Communist Party's leadership and promote "sinicization" of religion. This has led to persecution and restrictions on certain religious groups, particularly Christianity, Islam, and Tibetan Buddhism. "
What limits? What's normal as China defines? Any examples or sources? Or just another trust-me-bro?
What religious persecution and restrictions you referring to? Don't conflate anti-extremism with anti-religion, but I'm sure you'll use the anti- terrorism rules previously enforced in Xinjiang to prove "China hates Muslims". You're all bloody transparent. Guantanamo is freedom and democracy, reeducation is anti-Islam, amirite?

China (and everyone else, except maybe Israel) couldn't care less about toppling America. All of America's problems recently are all self-owns... deindustrialing themselves to China, dedollarising the world by confiscating Russia's foreign reserve, starting wars they couldn't afford - on behalf of the Military Industrial Complex, seling too much Treasuries to China and then antagonising them (kinda like slapping a dog which has your testicles in its jaws), tarrifing your biggest supplier without thinking where to 2nd source, closing off the biggest market (China) to your only remaining semiconductor manufacturing powerhouse (Intel) thereby causing them to lose so much money that they can't stop downsizing.... then having to beg TSMC to build fabs and train dumb, work-life-balance-comes-first Americans on how to build chips.

China is sitting on the sidelines, not knowing whether to laugh or cry, as they watch America repeatedly shoots itself in both feet while yelling threats at bystanders walking by minding their own business.

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ May 4 2025, 03:10 PM)
Need to use AI to argue for you? Everything your precious Gemini AI said has no basis, just fact-less accusations.
Where's the example of "The government limits religious practice to what it considers "normal" and requires religious institutions to uphold the Chinese Communist Party's leadership and promote "sinicization" of religion. This has led to persecution and restrictions on certain religious groups, particularly Christianity, Islam, and Tibetan Buddhism. "
What limits? What's normal as China defines? Any examples or sources? Or just another trust-me-bro?
What religious persecution and restrictions you referring to? Don't conflate anti-extremism with anti-religion, but I'm sure you'll use the anti- terrorism rules previously enforced in Xinjiang to prove "China hates Muslims". You're all bloody transparent. Guantanamo is freedom and democracy, reeducation is anti-Islam, amirite?

Fyi, .......

Gemini AI Overview

The Three-Self Patriotic Movement (TSPM) is the government-sanctioned and officially recognized organization for Protestant Christianity in mainland China. It aims to integrate Christianity with Chinese society and reduce foreign influence on the church. The TSPM and its affiliated China Christian Council (CCC) form the state-sanctioned Protestant church, overseen by the United Front Work Department (UFWD) of the Chinese Communist Party.


https://www.gotquestions.org/Three-Self-Church.html - What is the Three-Self Church? - 20 Jan 2025
The Chinese Communist Party has routinely suppressed the Christian faith. Despite this, Christianity has grown rapidly in China over the last century. One prominent expression of this growth is the Three-Self Church. Also called the Three-Self Patriotic Movement, it is the state supervisory body of the Protestant church in China. The movement promotes three core values: self-governance, self-support, and self-propagation.

The Three-Self Church is the “registered” church in China, operating with the sanction of the Chinese Communist Party. It represents a unique approach to Christianity in China, in contrast to the independent house-church movement. While house churches often teach with greater boldness, they face significant risks, including government raids and the imprisonment of leaders. By comparison, the Three-Self Church operates under government restrictions, avoiding a lot of the persecution house churches endure. However, this compliance has a cost—fewer opportunities to proclaim the whole counsel of God (cf. Acts 20:27).

The Three-Self Church operates within the legal restrictions imposed by the Chinese government. Its values emphasize “self,” not in relation to Western individualism, but as an organizational strategy. This approach consists of Chinese people governing, supporting, and spreading Christianity in the country. The Three-Self Church intends to show the communist party that Christianity is for every culture, not just the West. It also counters claims that foreign powers are orchestrating a takeover of Chinese religion and culture. ...

= the Three-Self Patriotic Church is a stringed-puppet Church controlled by Master CCP macam Wayang Kulit.
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China  (and everyone else, except maybe Israel) couldn't care less about toppling America. All of America's problems recently are all self-owns... deindustrialing themselves to China, dedollarising the world by confiscating Russia's foreign reserve, starting wars they couldn't afford - on behalf of the Military Industrial Complex, seling too much Treasuries to China and then antagonising them (kinda like slapping a dog which has your testicles in its jaws), tarrifing your biggest supplier without thinking where to 2nd source, closing off the biggest market (China) to your only remaining semiconductor manufacturing powerhouse (Intel) thereby causing them to lose so much money that they can't stop downsizing.... then having to beg TSMC to build fabs and train dumb, work-life-balance-comes-first Americans on how to build chips.

China is sitting on the sidelines, not knowing whether to laugh or cry, as they watch America repeatedly shoots itself in both feet while yelling threats at bystanders walking by minding their own business.
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So, why wumaos often post "Chainah Numbawan".?

Gemini AI Overview

Yes, China is widely perceived as actively seeking to become a global superpower, potentially replacing the United States in that role. This is evidenced by its rapid economic growth, military advancements, and increasing global influence.

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Fyi, .......

Gemini AI Overview

The Three-Self Patriotic Movement (TSPM) is the government-sanctioned and officially recognized organization for Protestant Christianity in mainland China. It aims to integrate Christianity with Chinese society and reduce foreign influence on the church. The TSPM and its affiliated China Christian Council (CCC) form the state-sanctioned Protestant church, overseen by the United Front Work Department (UFWD) of the Chinese Communist Party. 


https://www.gotquestions.org/Three-Self-Church.html - What is the Three-Self Church? - 20 Jan 2025
The Chinese Communist Party has routinely suppressed the Christian faith. Despite this, Christianity has grown rapidly in China over the last century. One prominent expression of this growth is the Three-Self Church. Also called the Three-Self Patriotic Movement, it is the state supervisory body of the Protestant church in China. The movement promotes three core values: self-governance, self-support, and self-propagation.

The Three-Self Church is the “registered” church in China, operating with the sanction of the Chinese Communist Party. It represents a unique approach to Christianity in China, in contrast to the independent house-church movement. While house churches often teach with greater boldness, they face significant risks, including government raids and the imprisonment of leaders. By comparison, the Three-Self Church operates under government restrictions, avoiding a lot of the persecution house churches endure. However, this compliance has a cost—fewer opportunities to proclaim the whole counsel of God (cf. Acts 20:27).

The Three-Self Church operates within the legal restrictions imposed by the Chinese government. Its values emphasize “self,” not in relation to Western individualism, but as an organizational strategy. This approach consists of Chinese people governing, supporting, and spreading Christianity in the country. The Three-Self Church intends to show the communist party that Christianity is for every culture, not just the West. It also counters claims that foreign powers are orchestrating a takeover of Chinese religion and culture. ...

= the Three-Self Patriotic Church is a stringed-puppet Church controlled by Master CCP macam Wayang Kulit.
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So, why wumaos often post "Chainah Numbawan".?

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Yes, China is widely perceived as actively seeking to become a global superpower, potentially replacing the United States in that role. This is evidenced by its rapid economic growth, military advancements, and increasing global influence. 

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Wow, more AI bull crap about some obscure Church in China somehow representing all religions in China. Every sentence pulled out from ass with nary a reliable source from official documents or quotes.

Yes, Chainah is seeking to destroy America (which it calls the beautiful country, and is/was its biggest trading partner until it suddenly felt threatened by a rising China) because it DARED TO become rich and friendly with more and more countries. It was supposed to continue using bi-planes and wooden sampans as its military even as America ramped up aggression towards it, calling it the "The number 1 threat to America"... because any attempt to modernise means it wants to kill the US President.

You have a demented looney toon as an AI. That's all I can say.

And as usual, I've NO BLOODY IDEA what point you're trying to make again, with your mish-mash bloody mess of a convoluted copypasta post. Perhaps try articulating your point after posting your multicoloured, multi- highlighted, multi- sized paragraphs of words... cos no one knows what point you're trying to put forward.
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Need to use AI to argue for you? Everything your precious Gemini AI said has no basis, just fact-less accusations.
Where's the example of "The government limits religious practice to what it considers "normal" and requires religious institutions to uphold the Chinese Communist Party's leadership and promote "sinicization" of religion. This has led to persecution and restrictions on certain religious groups, particularly Christianity, Islam, and Tibetan Buddhism. "

What limits? What's normal as China defines? Any examples or sources? Or just another trust-me-bro?
What religious persecution and restrictions you referring to? ... 
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Wow, more AI bull crap about some obscure Church in China somehow representing all religions in China. Every sentence pulled out from ass with nary a reliable source from official documents or quotes.

Yes, Chainah is seeking to destroy America (which it calls the beautiful country, and is/was its biggest trading partner until it suddenly felt threatened by a rising China) because it DARED TO become rich and friendly with more and more countries. It was supposed to continue using bi-planes and wooden sampans as its military even as America ramped up aggression towards it, calling it the "The number 1 threat to America"... because any attempt to modernise means it wants to kill the US President.

You have a demented looney toon as an AI. That's all I can say.

And as usual, I've NO BLOODY IDEA what point you're trying to make again, with your mish-mash bloody mess of a convoluted copypasta post. Perhaps try articulating your point after posting your multicoloured, multi- highlighted, multi- sized paragraphs of words... cos no one knows what point you're trying to put forward.
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Please prove that Gemini AI is spewing bull crap above, eg "legal" Christian Churches do not need to be sanctioned or controlled by the CCP or that CCP China does not restrict religious freedom, CCP China is not actively seeking to become a global superpower, potentially replacing the United States, etc.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 4 2025, 09:21 PM)
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Please prove that Gemini AI is spewing bull crap above, eg "legal" Christian Churches do not need to be sanctioned or controlled by the CCP or that CCP China does not restrict religious freedom, CCP China is not actively seeking to become a global superpower, potentially replacing the United States, etc.
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Why don't you post the links of the source when the Gemini AI gives you such bull crap?
Is it because Gemini AI pulled it out from the US state Dept and the "Congressional-Executive Commission on China" websites? The country that declared China its number 1 enemy, the country that paid billions for China-Bad propaganda? No biases there, right?

You didn't dare to put the sources when u use AI to make your arguments for you, then turn around and ask me to disprove it instead. How cheap...


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Please prove that Gemini AI is spewing bull crap above, eg "legal" Christian Churches do not need to be sanctioned or controlled by the CCP or that CCP China does not restrict religious freedom, CCP China is not actively seeking to become a global superpower, potentially replacing the United States, etc.
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Also I can't prove a negative (you can't prove you don't have a car by showing an empty garage), so I'll prove a positive instead.








Their Churches put the ones in Malaysia to shame. China is Communist my ass.




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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ May 4 2025, 10:35 PM)
Also I can't prove a negative (you can't prove you don't have a car by showing an empty garage), so I'll prove a positive instead.

Their Churches put the ones in Malaysia to shame. China is Communist my ass.
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Not true lah, .......

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Yes, it is possible to prove a negative, though it can be more challenging than proving a positive claim. The phrase "you can't prove a negative" is often used to refer to the difficulty of proving the non-existence of something empirical, like a mythical creature, but it's a misconception in logic.

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Not true lah, .......

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Yes, it is possible to prove a negative, though it can be more challenging than proving a positive claim. The phrase "you can't prove a negative" is often used to refer to the difficulty of proving the non-existence of something empirical, like a mythical creature, but it's a misconception in logic. 

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By golly, you're right!!
I can prove a negative by giving contradictory evidence!!!

I can show that in China, "Christian Churches do not need to be sanctioned or controlled by the CCP or that CCP China does not restrict religious freedom" by showing youtube shorts of them freely practising their worship, in mega- sized churches built out in the open, displaying their Christian symbols everywhere and in public without any authorities complaining about other folks' sensitivities being infringed upon.

Yeah, I did that already.

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ May 4 2025, 10:35 PM)
Also I can't prove a negative (you can't prove you don't have a car by showing an empty garage), so I'll prove a positive instead.




Their Churches put the ones in Malaysia to shame. China is Communist my ass.
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By golly, you're right!!
I can prove a negative by giving contradictory evidence!!!

I can show that in China, "Christian Churches do not need to be sanctioned or controlled by the CCP or that CCP China does not restrict religious freedom" by showing youtube shorts of them freely practising their worship, in mega- sized churches built out in the open, displaying their Christian symbols everywhere and in public without any authorities complaining about other folks' sensitivities being infringed upon.

Yeah,  I did that already.

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No, you did not prove a positive but tried unsuccessfully to provide contradictory evidence as proof, ie your false evidence do not prove that Christian Churches do not need to be sanctioned or controlled by the CCP or that CCP China does not restrict religious freedom .

Greed-for-money CCP China sanctioned or approved Christmas celebration by the Three-Self Patriotic Churches because Christmas has been largely commercialized by the business-people to profit off gullible Christians, eg the myth of Santa Claus bringing gifts to children for their obedience, the false tradition of Christmas gift-giving, buying and decorating Christmas trees, etc. .......

https://achonaonline.com/features/2021/12/t...zed-phenomenon/ - The history of Christmas: how it became a commercialized phenomenon - 15 Dec 2021

https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-Christmas.html - Should Christians celebrate Christmas - 10 Jan 2025
Cons: .... Some refrain from celebrating Christmas because they see a link between the traditions surrounding the holiday and similar practices in ancient pagan rituals. It is true that bells, candles, holly, and yuletide decorations are mentioned in the history of pagan worship, and for some Christians that is enough to keep them away from celebrating Christmas. ...

Another reason some Christians have for not celebrating Christmas is simply that the Bible does not support such a celebration, either by example or command, and it is difficult to reconcile much of what takes place at Christmastime with true biblical worship. ...

Some Christians do not celebrate Christmas with a tree, citing Jeremiah 10, especially verses 3 and 4, which condemn the “worthless” practices of idolaters: “They cut a tree out of the forest. . . . They adorn it with silver and gold.” ...

Some Christians do not celebrate Christmas because the holiday has become increasingly secularized (= commercialized). ....


JOHN.14: (NKJV) = 25 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. ....

28 You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I.

29 “And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe. 30 I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me. ...

= like all the other political rulers in the world (eg the Egyptian, Babylonian, Assyrian/Persian, Greek, Roman, Holy Roman, Colonial, etc Empires), CCP China today is another puppet of Satan but a more evil puppet.
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No idea how having Christmas celebration can imply that the Chinese government does not have restriction/control on the churches lol.

It is not a contradiction because both can be true at the same time.

just saying
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No idea how having Christmas celebration can imply that the Chinese government does not have restriction/control on the churches lol.

It is not a contradiction because both can be true at the same time.

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So give proof that the CCP does have restrictions/ control on Churches/religion lo, simples. @lurkingaround made the baseless accusations without backing it up, then asked me to prove that there is NO restrictions instead.

I already said that it's impossible to prove a negative with a 100% certainty, the best anyone can do is to provide contradictory evidence. Like you said, it's not a 100%, but its still better than making statements with sources only from the US state Dept.
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So give proof that the CCP does have restrictions/ control on Churches/religion lo, simples. @lurkingaround made the baseless accusations without backing it up, then asked me to prove that there is NO restrictions instead.

I already said that it's impossible to prove a negative with a 100% certainty, the best anyone can do is to provide contradictory evidence. Like you said, it's not a 100%, but its still better than making statements with sources only from the US state Dept.
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The ruling Chinese Communist Party is stepping up control over religious venues that will ban ties with overseas organizations while forcing them to deliver 'patriotic' education to believers.

According to new rules taking effect from Sept. 1, monasteries, temples, mosques, churches and other religious activity venues are required to support the leadership of the Communist Party of China and leader Xi Jinping's plans for the "sinicization" of religious activity.

"No organization or individual may use religious activity sites to conduct activities that endanger national security, disrupt social order [or] damage national interests," a copy of the rules published on the website of the party's outreach and influence arm, the United Front Work Department, said.

Managers of religious venues, who will be thoroughly vetted by religious affairs officials, must "love the motherland and support the leadership of the Communist Party of China and the socialist system."

The rules form part of an ongoing political campaign to "sinicize" religious activity that has already included the hanging of portraits of Xi Jinping in churches, a ban on Christmas celebrations and enforced demolition work at major mosques and churches to remove domes and crosses.

Venues must submit detailed plans for activities for approval in advance, and have a duty to "educate religious citizens to love the motherland" and comply with sinicization policies, according to the guidelines.


There u go, simple google would provide u that unless u want to say ini semua propaganda barat ??

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/reli...2023122520.html
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There u go, simple google would provide u that unless u want to say ini semua propaganda barat ??

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/reli...2023122520.html
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You do know what is Radio Free Asia, right? laugh.gif
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So give proof that the CCP does have restrictions/ control on Churches/religion lo, simples. @lurkingaround made the baseless accusations without backing it up, then asked me to prove that there is NO restrictions instead.

I already said that it's impossible to prove a negative with a 100% certainty, the best anyone can do is to provide contradictory evidence. Like you said, it's not a 100%, but its still better than making statements with sources only from the US state Dept.
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If Christians in China are able to watch porn, does it mean = Churches in CCP China do not need to be sanctioned/approved or controlled/restricted by the CCP or do not need to obey the CCP, or that the Churches do have religious freedom.? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 6 2025, 12:50 PM)
There u go, simple google would provide u that unless u want to say ini semua propaganda barat ??

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/reli...2023122520.html
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ May 6 2025, 12:50 PM)
There u go, simple google would provide u that unless u want to say ini semua propaganda barat ??

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/reli...2023122520.html
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You do know what is Radio Free Asia, right?  laugh.gif
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Fyi, .......

https://www.opendoors.org/en-US/research-re...ctivity-venues/ - 7 Sep 2023 - China: New regulations for “religious activity venues”

https://bitterwinter.org/the-new-chinese-me...-the-full-text/ - The New Chinese Measures for Religious Activity Venues Come into Force on September 1: The Full Text
08/07/2023, HU ZIMOA

Even worse than the draft version, the Measures will convert places of worship into branches of the CCP propaganda system. “Bitter Winter” offers a full English translation.

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There u go, simple google would provide u that unless u want to say ini semua propaganda barat ??

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/reli...2023122520.html
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Of course RFA is not propaganda Barat!! 😉 😉

It's just some innocent, independent, unbiased radio station started by the CIA, which then ultimately shut down when the US government stopped funding it.

Not Western propaganda at all!!

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If Christians in China are able to watch porn, does it mean = Churches in CCP China do not need to be sanctioned/approved or controlled/restricted by the CCP or do not need to obey the CCP, or that the Churches do have religious freedom.?  biggrin.gif
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WTF are you even on about??
You're saying Christians in China can watch porn=China not controlling/ restricting Christians??

Is that the proof you're trying to get from me to show China's religious freedoms??

You're a lost cause....
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Of course RFA is not propaganda Barat!! 😉 😉

It's just some innocent, independent, unbiased radio station started by the CIA, which then ultimately shut down when the US government stopped funding it.

Not Western propaganda at all!!

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Anything not from ccp is propaganda lol
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Anything not from ccp is propaganda lol
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Especially when I post actual previously-secret documents from the CIA themselves saying that they are using RFA to spread their propaganda, then YES I GUESS IT IS PROPAGANDA!

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Especially when I post actual previously-secret documents from the CIA themselves saying that they are using RFA to spread their propaganda, then YES I GUESS IT IS PROPAGANDA!

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Fyi, .......

https://www.opendoors.org/en-US/research-re...ctivity-venues/ - 7 Sep 2023 - China: New regulations for “religious activity venues”

https://bitterwinter.org/the-new-chinese-me...-the-full-text/ - The New Chinese Measures for Religious Activity Venues Come into Force on September 1: The Full Text
08/07/2023, HU ZIMOA

Even worse than the draft version, the Measures will convert places of worship into branches of the CCP propaganda system. “Bitter Winter” offers a full English translation.

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ May 6 2025, 08:37 PM)
Especially when I post actual previously-secret documents from the CIA themselves saying that they are using RFA to spread their propaganda, then YES I GUESS IT IS PROPAGANDA!

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My repost fyi.

Is the RFA news CIA propaganda or factual news.?
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