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post Apr 25 2025, 12:24 PM, updated 8 months ago

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wumaos happy because got good and cheap, who don't want, aye?

local chinese making honest living can eat shit liao, as they are burdened with rentals, taxes, e-invoice, cukai pintu, cukai niaga, worker salaries, while those CCP tourists don't have any of these legal obligations whistling.gif


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(Kuala Lumpur, 25th) A full-time photographer lamented that after Malaysia and China implemented mutual visa exemptions, many Chinese photography teams began flying directly to Malaysia to take on jobs, offering services that are “cheap, fast, and visually stunning,” which has effectively squeezed the competitive space for local photographers.

This photographer submitted his complaint to host Xiao Ma’s segment “Bosses’ Untold Stories on Social Media”, saying that he has been working as a full-time photographer for nine years. In the past, business was so good that his schedule was fully booked for months without a single day off, but now he has to wait three weeks to secure one job.

He explained that this change is not due to a declining economy but a shift in the market. Since the Malaysia-China mutual visa exemption came into effect, Chinese photography teams have been coming to Malaysia to take on jobs. These teams are fast, their prices are low, and they offer comprehensive packages that include two outfits, makeup and hairstyling, photo editing, venue rental, and sometimes even short videos—all for just RM299.

“RM299? I can’t even cover my costs at that price. But I know they make their money from the additional photo selections later, charging RM300 per photo, which ultimately adds up to thousands of ringgit,” he said.

He added that Chinese photographers are not only stealing business but also offering high pay to lure away freelance makeup artists, and they rent local studios more frequently than Malaysian photographers do.

“We simply can’t compete with this kind of scale. It’s not that I’m unwilling to improve—I’ve updated my equipment, I can edit videos, and I’ve tried different shooting styles. But as local photographers, we have to rent studios, hire staff, handle logistics, cover our own transportation, and pay numerous taxes… How am I supposed to compete with RM299?”

He admitted that seeing peers leave the industry one after another makes him wonder how much longer this generation of photographers can hold on. What angers him most is the government’s silence on the issue.

“Foreign teams are coming in and taking over the market. We’re not saying there shouldn’t be competition, but at least there should be a fair playing field. You ask us to go digital, to embrace creative transformation—we’ve tried it all. But in the end, it’s us locals who are struggling and failing. That time when Chinese President Xi Jinping visited, it caused a massive traffic jam, and my scheduled shoot got canceled as a result.”

He hopes Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim will act before local SMEs are completely wiped out, instead of saying “we’ll support SMEs” when it’s already too late. “We won’t survive until then,” he warned.




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Nice, hope we can import other Chinese professionals soon.

Why need Wumao when we can get real propaganda straight from the source.
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my question is, why the Chinese photographer can come out to our market and flood the market with cheap price, but we don't know how to do the same by going to other cheaper market and flood them instead? why are we so fixated to stuck here and don't know how to do the same and compete instead?
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Local make honest living. Means CCP ones not honest la, kan?

Make police report jer la. They do business cheating ma.

By the way, suck it up. Business world is like this. Be fit or be eaten. Last time keerp laughing at Malays for relying on tongkat and bumi priviledge. Time to walk the talk now that there is competition.

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QUOTE(nivota @ Apr 25 2025, 12:29 PM)
my question is, why the Chinese photographer can come out to our market and flood the market with cheap price, but we don't know how to do the same by going to other cheaper market and flood them instead? why are we so fixated to stuck here and don't know how to do the same and compete instead?
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people stil bullshiat about caina quality product
say "u dare to use then u use la"

i guess for photograph.. mroe people "dare to use"
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china couple fly to malaysia with photogs to take wedding pics on locations

thank you for promoting malaysia

got sample of their works or not

want to see

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I thot meritocracy and let the best win is better?

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technically they are on tourist visa and cannot work right? if yes, then means gahment enforcement is weak. good time to setup new ICE ministry.
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QUOTE(nivota @ Apr 25 2025, 12:29 PM)
my question is, why the Chinese photographer can come out to our market and flood the market with cheap price, but we don't know how to do the same by going to other cheaper market and flood them instead? why are we so fixated to stuck here and don't know how to do the same and compete instead?
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Can speak Malaysia? No? Lost 70% market already.
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Since when can they work on tourist visa?
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Link for rm 299 please
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“RM299? I can’t even cover my costs at that price. But I know they make their money from the additional photo selections later, charging RM300 per photo, which ultimately adds up to thousands of ringgit,” he said


Simple, give 2 quotations:
Quotation A full package 20 photo selection rm100 additional photos
Quotation B rm200, 5 photo selection, rm300 additional photos
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post Apr 25 2025, 12:49 PM

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RM299 pre-wedding packages?
This amount can't even cover the airfare.

Unless they can get one job a week, it's not really worth the trouble.
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fuck these chinese coming to msia and stealing business
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Local chinese photogs should diversify to malay or indian weddings. Of course need to polish bahasa kebangsaan la.
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QUOTE(poooky @ Apr 25 2025, 12:36 PM)
technically they are on tourist visa and cannot work right? if yes, then means gahment enforcement is weak. good time to setup new ICE ministry.
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True but how to tax digital nomads? Or even stop.


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but why you need photographer for marriage in this age. everyone got good camera is the palm of their hand.
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Apr 25 2025, 12:56 PM)
fuck these chinese coming to msia and stealing business
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survival of the fittest, they say
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malaysian photographer, go open business in tier 1 chinese city lor

these tier 1 urbanites earn at least 3x more than KL high earners.

tier 2 also earn more than KL

only tier 3 or lower similar

millions and millions of potential customers for Malaysian photographers

but willing to compete or not ?

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seriously you guys believe this story..?
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QUOTE(poooky @ Apr 25 2025, 12:36 PM)
technically they are on tourist visa and cannot work right? if yes, then means gahment enforcement is weak. good time to setup new ICE ministry.
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u can see them indo photogs flooding the street in front of klcc nowadays , offering their service to tourists
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I can spot first problem.

They can't do business here without proper documentation. So if you do catch them here with their RM299 package, make them leave by paying more for working illegally. Why so hard?
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they have work permit?
if not, report

Taiwan performers arrested in Malaysia fined for working without permit
10/18/2024 05:39 PM

Malaysian immigration authorities on Thursday decided that the six performers arrested for performing without government permission in the country on Oct. 10, including four Taiwanese nationals and two Singaporeans, will be fined for breaching border rules.
https://focustaiwan.tw/society/202410180012

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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Apr 25 2025, 12:27 PM)
Nice, hope we can import other Chinese professionals soon.

Why need Wumao when we can get real propaganda straight from the source.
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Many are already in town and more to come.

By the time you realized, you probably have lost your job to PRC.

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Now days smartphone photos so good quality why even need photographer


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/ktards wumaos says survival of the fittest... Till their own rice bowl affected
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Easy peasy.

Pay half as deposit first.
Then finish lipot polis saying they use tourist visa to work.

Win?
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 25 2025, 12:49 PM)
RM299 pre-wedding packages?
This amount can't even cover the airfare.

Unless they can get one job a week, it's not really worth the trouble.
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I also heran. The ccp need to pay airfare and hotel/airb&B, makan, transport, rent facilities etc. Really can make money RM299? It's ringgit, not USD.

Me thinks this fella over goreng the story a bit.

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What's wrong? I too fly the team to Bali and Japan decade+ ago for my shoots.

Local photographers there tak komplen pi po pi po pun.

I believe this poster (photographer) pernah did the same outbound job before too.

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Yada, yada, yada but did you lodged an official report or yer just bitchin on social media?
Think this is why he sakit buntut laugh.gif
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That time when Chinese President Xi Jinping visited, it caused a massive traffic jam, and my scheduled shoot got canceled as a result.
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CCP scammers floods too
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Apr 25 2025, 01:15 PM)
I also heran. The ccp need to pay airfare and hotel/airb&B, makan, transport, rent facilities etc. Really can make money RM299? It's ringgit, not USD.

Me thinks this fella over goreng the story a bit.
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They could be here for 90 days.
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if cheap and can make our wallet happy.. why not? the cheaper the better
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Apr 25 2025, 12:31 PM)
Local make honest living. Means CCP ones not honest la, kan?

Make police report jer la. They do business cheating ma.

By the way, suck it up. Business world is like this. Be fit or be eaten. Last time keerp laughing at Malays for relying on tongkat and bumi priviledge. Time to walk the talk now that there is competition.
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not supposed to do business as tourist

u see lasst time master kris leung traveling doing business terus masuk lokap
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Apr 25 2025, 01:15 PM)
I also heran. The ccp need to pay airfare and hotel/airb&B, makan, transport, rent facilities etc. Really can make money RM299? It's ringgit, not USD.

Me thinks this fella over goreng the story a bit.
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dont underestimate them

they can stay in some hostel with a friend. ike banggala
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 25 2025, 01:15 PM)
What's wrong? I too fly the team to Bali and Japan decade+ ago for my shoots.

Local photographers tak komplen pi po pi po pun.

I believe this poster (photographer) pernah did the same outbound too.
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You are talking about Malaysian photographers giving service to Malaysian client in Bali.

This story is about China's photographers offering service to Malaysian clients in Malaysia. That's a big difference.
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You are talking about Malaysian photographers giving service to Malaysian client in Bali.

This story is about China's photographers offering service to Malaysian clients in Malaysia. That's a big difference.
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Me, malaysian and a customer brought malaysian boutique photographer & make up team to Bali & Japan for outdoor shoots. Out bound job to them. Pricing is local MYR package.

Their local photographers (my case, bali's & japan's) NO complain us, convert my package pricing kbkb there.

Why this OP local photographer in Msia kbkb (complain) pulak, when likewise chinese couple come Msia with their team for outdoor shoot here, compare and convert their RMB package?

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Lipot polis if no work permit. If got then they are expats, fair competition.

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i engaged a photographer in china for some outdoor shots for family, less than rm500. she give us all the photos (unedited) and edit 7 final photos.

last year i also engaged a photographer in KL for my kid's outdoor shot, rm1500. she didnt give all unedited photos, and takes 2 months to edit the final photos.

true story ya
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QUOTE(nivota @ Apr 25 2025, 12:29 PM)
my question is, why the Chinese photographer can come out to our market and flood the market with cheap price, but we don't know how to do the same by going to other cheaper market and flood them instead? why are we so fixated to stuck here and don't know how to do the same and compete instead?
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not that cheap, if choose few more photo, price sure up 99
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local wedding photographer go oversea help u take wedding photo also dont need working visa. everyone being doing this since forever.

u go ask any local ones la, u see they will offer you package or ask u find oversea photographer or not

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He sell package to take people to Taiwan, Korea or Japan to do wedding shoot pulak okay?

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QUOTE(nivota @ Apr 25 2025, 12:29 PM)
my question is, why the Chinese photographer can come out to our market and flood the market with cheap price, but we don't know how to do the same by going to other cheaper market and flood them instead? why are we so fixated to stuck here and don't know how to do the same and compete instead?
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Simple answer given by nature " survival of the species the fittest survive, the fattest/weakest/use tongkat become extinct.
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Apr 25 2025, 12:31 PM)
Eh why wanna plotek plotek hak kami?

I thot meritocracy and let the best win is better?

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The irony lol. Last time cry father cry mother Bout tongkat, now nak mintak tongkat pulak.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Apr 25 2025, 01:47 PM)
He sell package to take people to Taiwan, Korea or Japan to do wedding shoot pulak okay?
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Apr 25 2025, 12:31 PM)
people stil bullshiat about caina quality product
say "u dare to use then u use la"

i guess for photograph.. mroe people "dare to use"
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my superior is one of them, always said dun wan buy caina phones and their electronic products.
Now you see China products already dominated how many percentage in the market, but he still insist. doh.gif

Good for him, at least he no much variety to choose for selected products.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 25 2025, 01:38 PM)
We malaysian customer bring malaysian boutique photographer & make up team to Bali & Japan for outdoor shoots. Out bound job to them. Pricing is local MYR package.

Their local photographers (my case, bali's & japan's) NO complain us, convert my package pricing kbkb there.

Why this OP local photographer in Msia kbkb (complain) pulak?
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Dude, Malaysian clients would pay for the airfare and accommodation of the Malaysian photographers to Bali/Japan.

But Malaysian clients wouldn't pay for the airfare and accommodation of the China's photographers in Malaysia.

You can't see the difference?
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At rm299 (inclusive all shooting, rentals, make-up, 2/3 costumes.., free mtvs) (even tambah rm at some selected photo for 300 each) local photographer can hamkachan already

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rm 300 is a fair price, rather take this than local type C makan type C rm2888 price
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Hmm , offering higher pay for local makeup artist compare to local Malaysian company pay for local makeup artist.

Meaning china company pay more to local makeup artist compare to local pay for local makeup artist?

Is my understanding correct?
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 25 2025, 01:43 PM)
i engaged a photographer in china for some outdoor shots for family, less than rm500. she give us all the photos (unedited) and edit 7 final photos.

last year i also engaged a photographer in KL for my kid's outdoor shot, rm1500. she didnt give all unedited photos, and takes 2 months to edit the final photos.

true story ya
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Ya, makes you wonder what are their real cost. All digital right, basically just pay for his time and expertise. A foreigner can do it for 1/3 of the price, why the local cannot match? This is what real competition is like.


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Here comes the sino licker say Sino always win


When their family lost jobs unemployed then only cry father cry mother. See who's losing now ya. Sino lickers.

Don't cry in 2 years later
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Same happened in Thailand.
but competition is good. End up prices fell in Thailand for some time, even for wedding photoshoot local photog
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Oh noe! Kesian! anyways....
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Those are illegals. Mana boleh suka masuk guna tourist visa then do jobs.
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so which is killing industry faster? CCP photographer or AI? owai..

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Can speak Malaysia? No? Lost 70% market already.
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Those are illegals. Mana boleh suka masuk guna tourist visa then do jobs.
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they still need apply certain permit if not wrong. just no need visa anymore..

https://www.imi.gov.my/index.php/en/main-se...l-visitor-pass/
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 25 2025, 01:38 PM)
Me, malaysian and a customer brought malaysian boutique photographer & make up team to Bali & Japan for outdoor shoots. Out bound job to them. Pricing is local MYR package.

Their local photographers (my case, bali's & japan's) NO complain us, convert my package pricing kbkb there.

Why this OP local photographer in Msia kbkb (complain) pulak, when likewise chinese couple come Msia with their team for outdoor shoot here, compare and convert their RMB package?
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 25 2025, 01:44 PM)
local wedding photographer go oversea help u take wedding photo also dont need working visa. everyone being doing this since forever.

u go ask any local ones la, u see they will offer you package or ask u find oversea photographer or not
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 25 2025, 01:51 PM)
Dude, Malaysian clients would pay for the airfare and accommodation of the Malaysian photographers to Bali/Japan.

But Malaysian clients wouldn't pay for the airfare and accommodation of the China's photographers in Malaysia.

You can't see the difference?
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somemore, the point brought up by OP is

CCP photogs flown in here to find business in domestic market - they fight with local photogs - pose direct competition with the locals

while the example wumaos used are simply the outbound shooting taken place abroad

an analogy in aviation is like AA is based in KLIA, it cannot offer non-stop flights to 3rd country without transit at its base, JAL cannot operate non-stop flight in KLIA to Australia, without transit in Japan for instance



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Jeffrey Cheah obviously no complain.
That tauke Hog Kitchen with multiple outlets no complain
Itu old unker auntie selling Assam Laksa/Curry Laksa no complain
That amoi GRO at KTV also no complain
Doctors, nurses at clinic no complain
Accountants at Big 5 no complain
Ah long no complain
Itu Cameron farmer, pig farmer, pomelo orchard owner no complain
Abeng ketuk kereta, aftermarket ekzos, tint glass no complain

Apa problem?

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 02:08 PM)
nah, people answer for you two
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still correct what, u can still ask local photographer to fly together with u oversea, of course you pay for their flight, and u use your local photographer instead of the oversea photographer to take photo with u.

but you still can ask for an oversea photographer if u want. so what is the problem here again?

if ppl can take flight and take photo bao ka liao still cheaper than your local 1, that just mean u overcharge your client all the time

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they still need apply certain permit if not wrong. just no need visa anymore..

https://www.imi.gov.my/index.php/en/main-se...l-visitor-pass/
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Yes, no need visa only if they come in as tourist. To work as whatever, need permit etc. Could be different visa type as well. From what I read, they don't applied for any of those hence they can offer cheaper prices.

Basically similar to Indon coming in and work illegally.

If they come here with their client i.e. from their country as well, get paid in their currency, flight tickets, accommodation etc paid by their client, they can kinda get away without applying permit as they can bullshit they come as tourist group take their own group photos.

But if they come in and find jobs here, from local clients, then they need permit.

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still correct what, u can still ask local photographer to fly together with u oversea, of course you pay for their flight, and u use your local photographer instead of the oversea photographer to take photo with u.

but you still can ask for an oversea photographer if u want. so what is the problem here again?

if ppl can take flight and take photo bao ka liao still cheaper than your local 1, that just mean u overcharge your client all the time
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how to explain to peanut brain like you

or you are smart just that you are deeply tied to CCP



you bought a pre-wed package in Msia, you paid in MYR to a company registered locally, you flown the local photogs to the destination regardless its Arthic or Antarthic, that is no problem


what CCP doing is, their photogs using short term visit pass to arrive Msia, without any CCP customer with them, then they start to look for local consumers


this also cannot understand, then I hope you just stay the rest of your life in Beijing or Xinjiang
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 25 2025, 02:12 PM)
still correct what, u can still ask local photographer to fly together with u oversea, of course you pay for their flight, and u use your local photographer instead of the oversea photographer to take photo with u.

but you still can ask for an oversea photographer if u want. so what is the problem here again?

if ppl can take flight and take photo bao ka liao still cheaper than your local 1, that just mean u overcharge your client all the time
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you don't know locals requirement in setting up business? you or family never run a business before?

you don't know lots of fees and taxes, sometimes duit kopi as well, those are the overhead required and that haven't included the hardware costs and staff salaries? And what about rentals?



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survival of the fittest, they say
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In most cases, it is the stupid local wumao that helps the overseas PRCs to come and get set up here. Like a joint venture, helping them to take over their fellow local C business.

You see those illegal biz done by PRC, always have local C partners in crime.

Just f___ them all.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 25 2025, 01:51 PM)
Dude, Malaysian clients would pay for the airfare and accommodation of the Malaysian photographers to Bali/Japan.

But Malaysian clients wouldn't pay for the airfare and accommodation of the China's photographers in Malaysia.

You can't see the difference?
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I believe malaysian client who brought in PRC photographers pays for their air fare, accomodation.

These PRC photographers only charge service
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how to explain to peanut brain like you

or you are smart just that you are deeply tied to CCP
you bought a pre-wed package in Msia, you paid in MYR to a company registered locally, you flown the local photogs to the destination regardless its Arthic or Antarthic, that is no problem
what CCP doing is, their photogs using short term visit pass to arrive Msia, without any CCP customer with them, then they start to look for local consumers
this also cannot understand, then I hope you just stay the rest of your life in Beijing or Xinjiang
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i understand, but what u cannot understand is, if china only do it for cheap, and not for quality, then they only can get 1 time customer.

but seeing sme fear of competition means what china doing is cheap and good. that is what the sme fear.

despite amdk every day shouting ewww china quality bad, but in reality, they know china can do cheap and good at the same time, thats why ppl feared.

and as customer, i will not pay extra for subpar quality.

and welcome to globalisation.

and whats with your local photographer can do business in oversea but prc 1 cannot?

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so which is killing industry faster? CCP photographer or AI? owai..
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i wonder if we have laws against this or not

because i know in the EU, this is illegal
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QUOTE(tupai @ Apr 25 2025, 02:17 PM)
Yes, no need visa only if they come in as tourist. To work as whatever, need permit etc. Could be different visa type as well. From what I read, they don't applied for any of those hence they can offer cheaper prices.

Basically similar to Indon coming in and work illegally.

If they come here with their client i.e. from their country as well, get paid in their currency, flight tickets, accommodation etc paid by their client, they can kinda get away without applying permit as they can bullshit they come as tourist group take their own group photos.

But if they come in and find jobs here, from local clients, then they need permit.
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that is still no problem in my book

referring to aviation example

SIA cannot fly Msian passenger from KL to Adelaide non-stop, they can however make a transit stop at SG first

if everyone can simply do business at other people's land, under the pretext of "globalisation" "free trade" etc without restrictions and regulations

then why till date Netflix, Meta etc still not allowed to offer their services in PRC




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Those are illegals. Mana boleh suka masuk guna tourist visa then do jobs.
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Want to cakap legal-illegal, plug leaks with PRC?

Good luck bro.

If you not muslim, come i bring you eat night frog porridge in Sinkapo, let you more of mana boleh suka masuk guna tourist visa then do jobs.

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Who want to cakap legal-illegal, plug leaks with PRC?

Good luck bro
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malaysia photog also go taiwan, bali, korea take photos ma
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To become business owner, there are risk.. I can see more China tourist will be coming... Not something uncertainty... Adjusting businesses to suit this is the way to grow....
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 25 2025, 02:25 PM)
i understand, but what u cannot understand is, if china only do it for cheap, and not for quality, then they only can get 1 time customer.

but seeing sme fear of competition means what china doing is cheap and good. that is what the sme fear.

despite amdk every day shouting ewww china quality bad, but in reality, they know china can do cheap and good at the same time, thats why ppl feared.

and as customer, i will not pay extra for subpar quality.

and welcome to globalisation.
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yep embrace it, until your kids gen suffer because of unfair competition

if Xiaomi's definition of lazy is not working more than 15 hours a day, then you should be hardworking by working more than 15 hours rolleyes.gif

no wonder chinese are not keen to have kids in 2020s
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i wonder if we have laws against this or not

because i know in the EU, this is illegal
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Obviously illegal la. Tourist visa can’t work. Same for any tourist visa all over the world.

Only stupid wumao and (those stupid enough to fall for their confusion tactics) in this tered try to confuse issue with “ oh but it’s same as I bring my own photographer go xyz country to shoot my wedding!”

When that’s not what the article complaint was about at all.

Like this employers no need pay thousands for work visa of bangla etc la. Just bring them in on 90 day tourist visa.

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Unker doesn't mind paying lesser for better quality and offerings.

Competition actually better for whole society

No point keeping zombies company alive.

Very good example is one car brand named Potong and airline Must

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if no local support, how can happen. lol.
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yep embrace it, until your kids gen suffer because of unfair competition

if Xiaomi's definition of lazy is not working more than 15 hours a day, then you should be hardworking by working more than 15 hours  rolleyes.gif

no wonder chinese are not keen to have kids in 2020s
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how is unfair when ppl can take flight and come here with all their equipment and still cheaper than u?

u like getting ripoff by local?

and which mnc here is not running 12 hours shift? u think angmoh come your country because they like u so much they want to offer you high pay jor?

all mnc only see profits, they most certainly dont care u jilat them or not.

u dont want stressful life? go rural place to live la. want go in mega city and expect no competition?


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Since when can they work on tourist visa?
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They are not suppose to but they are. Seen it with my eyes.

This reciprocal visa should stop. Either that or should be based on number of visa. Each country only have x number of visas


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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 25 2025, 02:34 PM)
how is unfair when ppl can take flight and come here with all their equipment and still cheaper than u?

u like getting ripoff by local?

and which mnc here is not running 12 hours shift? u think angmoh come your country because they like u so much they want to offer you high pay jor?

all mnc only see profits, they most certainly dont care u jilat them or not.

u dont want stressful life? go rural place to live la. want go in mega city and expect no competition?
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Whatever your job is. I hope your boss replace you with prc on tourist visa soon. Now 90 days. Every three months can get new workers fresh and motivated and forever no need increments.
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Many are already in town and more to come.

By the time you realized, you probably have lost your job to PRC.
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We all should lose jobs to PRC.

Why only SME alone have to suffer? All jobs should be open to PRCs.

Graphic designer? Get cheap PRCs.
Doctor? Same.
Aircon expert? Pumbler? Same.
Etc etc.

Let’s go.

Wumao talk big. Let’s replace them with PRCs too. Get the real propagandists.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 02:29 PM)
yep embrace it, until your kids gen suffer because of unfair competition

if Xiaomi's definition of lazy is not working more than 15 hours a day, then you should be hardworking by working more than 15 hours  rolleyes.gif

no wonder chinese are not keen to have kids in 2020s
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I don't see any issue with it, my son will be multi millionaire when I'm dead.

If they can work 15 hours, surely we can also right? If they can charge only 299, surely we can also right? That's fair competition.

And you can go into China and offer 199 photography services also right? Or you can offer locals the same price, why not?
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 02:29 PM)
yep embrace it, until your kids gen suffer because of unfair competition

if Xiaomi's definition of lazy is not working more than 15 hours a day, then you should be hardworking by working more than 15 hours  rolleyes.gif

no wonder chinese are not keen to have kids in 2020s
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No point arguing. Can't change that mindset until itstoo late. They don't see the long term effect it has on a country.

These chinese people come to malaydia to work stay in the factory. Job done they leave. And no I would not want my kids to be like that. I can't believe our countryman support such practice.
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Msian photographers had been promoting overseas weeding photoshoot for years now, so Msian can , but others cannot?
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QUOTE(ticke @ Apr 25 2025, 02:34 PM)
if no local support, how can happen. lol.
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not who supports it
u try go to EU take wedding photo using your own photog and see what happen....you'll go to jail and fined 1st before deported

u have to use local photographer or videographer company for that
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 25 2025, 02:34 PM)
how is unfair when ppl can take flight and come here with all their equipment and still cheaper than u?

u like getting ripoff by local?

and which mnc here is not running 12 hours shift? u think angmoh come your country because they like u so much they want to offer you high pay jor?

all mnc only see profits, they most certainly dont care u jilat them or not.

u dont want stressful life? go rural place to live la. want go in mega city and expect no competition?
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oh, my job now I am only legally required to complete 40 hour work week

which slavery camp do you serve under?

even TSMC they don't work 15 hours a day

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At TSMC, the number of days off per week depends on the work schedule, which typically follows a 4-3 shift pattern for many operational roles:
• 4-3 Work Schedule: Employees work 4 consecutive days followed by 3 days off. This is often organized into day shifts and night shifts.
• This schedule equates to 12-hour shifts for 4 days a week, with 3 full days of rest.

Some employees in administrative or support roles may follow a more standard 5-day workweek with weekends off, though this varies based on job function and location.

Despite these structured days off, high workloads or project deadlines may occasionally require additional hours or weekend work.

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 12:24 PM)
wumaos happy because got good and cheap, who don't want, aye?

local chinese making honest living can eat shit liao, as they are burdened with rentals, taxes, e-invoice, cukai pintu, cukai niaga, worker salaries, while those CCP tourists don't have any of these legal obligations whistling.gif
https://www.chinapress.com.my/?p=4391246
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I cannot understand, if their business model can make money , why Malaysia business model cannot make money?

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Then just follow their business model.



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Msian photographers had been promoting overseas weeding photoshoot for years now,  so Msian can , but others cannot?
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depending on which countries...a lot of countries don't allow it

you're risking yourself being caught and jailed

or they have engaged with local companies to be able to do it
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Whatever your job is. I hope your boss replace you with prc on tourist visa soon. Now 90 days. Every three months can get new workers fresh and motivated and forever no need increments.
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i am working with ccp company now. bodoh. kek. u sure dont know how many prc mnc here
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 25 2025, 02:25 PM)
i understand, but what u cannot understand is, if china only do it for cheap, and not for quality, then they only can get 1 time customer.

but seeing sme fear of competition means what china doing is cheap and good. that is what the sme fear.

despite amdk every day shouting ewww china quality bad, but in reality, they know china can do cheap and good at the same time, thats why ppl feared.

and as customer, i will not pay extra for subpar quality.

and welcome to globalisation.

and whats with your local photographer can do business in oversea but prc 1 cannot?
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Correct. I prefer locals too but if they offer me half price with same or better quality, why not?

You going to blame the customer now?
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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Apr 25 2025, 02:39 PM)
I don't see any issue with it, my son will be multi millionaire when I'm dead.

If they can work 15 hours, surely we can also right? If they can charge only 299, surely we can also right? That's fair competition.

And you can go into China and offer 199 photography services also right? Or you can offer locals the same price, why not?
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try that in China chances are you will get bludgeoned to death if not arrested by their police

our govt is basically too corrupted to close one eye on these practices, but that doesn't mean it should be condoned


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oh, my job now I am only legally required to complete 40 hour work week

which slavery camp do you serve under?

even TSMC they don't work 15 hours a day
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lmao tsmc dont work 15 hours, u see those murican cry father cry mother when taiwanese go there to train them? that is because those ppl cannot take on taiwanese treatment
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Next is renovation industry , I find that the margin and labour cost for that is super expensive.
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i am working with ccp company now. bodoh. kek. u sure dont know how many prc mnc here
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You are redundant. Prc boss replace you with tongzhimen soon

Btw your prc colleagues on tourist visa also?

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i am working with ccp company now. bodoh. kek. u sure dont know how many prc mnc here
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good luck rofl

hope you go for medical check up regularly

hope you upped your amount in life insurance whistling.gif


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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 02:44 PM)
try that in China chances are you will get bludgeoned to death if not arrested by their police

our govt is basically too corrupted to close one eye on these practices, but that doesn't mean it should be condoned
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Then you offer 249 to locals la, beat those PRC legals back to tongsan in their own game. They offer cheap, you offer cheaper. They offer cheaper, you offer cheapest. What's the problem?
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Then you offer 249 to locals la, beat those PRC legals back to tongsan in their own game. They offer cheap, you offer cheaper. They offer cheaper, you offer cheapest. What's the problem?
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topkek and naive

you think Msian chinese can simply be allowed to make money in CCP street?

even offering 1 RMB service also you could be arrested
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 02:29 PM)
yep embrace it, until your kids gen suffer because of unfair competition

if Xiaomi's definition of lazy is not working more than 15 hours a day, then you should be hardworking by working more than 15 hours  rolleyes.gif

no wonder chinese are not keen to have kids in 2020s
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thats why for many CCP citizens, whenever they are capable of leaving china, they will do it and migrate out of that slave hellhole, because they dont want their future generations to think that working 15 hours a day is normal and justified, they would rather enjoy freedom and work life balance in western countries, and they know best because they are the ones that are suffering from that 996 culture

but now we have bodo wumaos here that work for western MNC enjoying good work life balance and even if got OT also will be compensated equally but they talk as if china 996 or 15 hours work day is awesome and they have absolutely no problem doing so hahahhaha, all talk cock oni havent even experience real 996 but they want to represent all CCP workers who have to work 996 and deal with it
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Next is renovation industry , I find that the margin and labour cost for that is super expensive.
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And the workmanship is terrible. Basically just the boss take order and hire cheap bangla or indo to do the work.

We need ccp come and shake up this industry. I'll be the 1st to use them.

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Msian photographers had been promoting overseas weeding photoshoot for years now,  so Msian can , but others cannot?
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Here is very simple reason. Malaysian photographer does not earn any money from foreign country citizens when they do overseas shoot. You see what happens if that photographer go foreign country try to sell to locals over there, what their gomen and locals will do to them

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That's the cost/consequences we need to bear when our Gov give free visa for CCP to visit Malaysia...


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You are redundant. Prc boss replace you with tongzhimen soon

Btw your prc colleagues on tourist visa also?
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government require mnc to hire local, like that also dont know. if mnc can hire prc to replace local then angmoh mnc will do it first

since the first tariff hit china back in 2018 2019, already plenty china mnc open factory here in mnc,

and dont keep living in the small tiny world you are living in la, if intel can replace ceo with a chinese, that means everyone is replaceable

unless u want mangkuk titanium then go work for government, they got skin requirement maybe u will fit in better, more chance if u cutted your gugu
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 02:47 PM)
topkek and naive

you think Msian chinese can simply be allowed to make money in CCP street?

even offering 1 RMB service also you could be arrested
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I'm saying local photogs. If CCP photogs offer 299, then locals offer 249. Sure people will all flock to local photogs at 249. Is it because locals greedy want to catch local water fish?
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 25 2025, 02:50 PM)
government require mnc to hire local, like that also dont know. if mnc can hire prc to replace local then angmoh mnc will do it first

since the first tariff hit china back in 2018 2019, already plenty china mnc open factory here in mnc,

and dont keep living in the small tiny world you are living in la, if intel can replace ceo with a chinese, that means everyone is replaceable

unless u want mangkuk titanium then go work for government, they got skin requirement maybe u will fit in better, more chance if u cutted your gugu
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Simple question don’t need to pusing

Your prc colleagues on tourist visa?

eh Tan lip bu and Tan hock eng became CEO on tourist visa? did they go jump aeroplane to US on B1 visa?

you so hypocrite. your job is plotekted by gomen plotek policy to have local hire requirement. But somehow not allowing ppl to abuse tourist visa to work and do business, that is wrong kind of plotek.

So many china students in UM, huawei workers, CCP construction bring their own engineers, all these I have no problem, because company and uni sponsor them on proper visa. Even that PRC lady come in open china supermarket also, got proper visa which not easy to get (business investor minimum capital RM10mil).

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In most cases, it is the stupid local wumao that helps the overseas PRCs to come and get set up here. Like a joint venture, helping them to take over their fellow local C business.

You see those illegal biz done by PRC, always have local C partners in crime.

Just f___ them all.
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indeed. all these ppl will do anything including selling their father mother wife kids country just for some $
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Like this employers no need pay thousands for work visa of bangla etc la. Just bring them in on 90 day tourist visa.


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it seems people get used to illegal shit for so long still dare to ask " but they just come here to cari makan only what? "

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u dont want stressful life? go rural place to live la. want go in mega city and expect no competition?


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for those who cannot tahan the competition in china, now they can opt to run to nanyang

but us locals? run to where?
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it seems people get used to illegal shit for so long still dare to ask " but they just come here to cari makan only what? "
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Actually they hundred percent know that is illegal. Is just standard wumao plotek tactic to derail and confuse the issue. Replace the ccp photographer with bharat worker’s and suddenly their confusion clears up.

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malaysia photog also go taiwan, bali, korea take photos ma
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Exactly.
Now why local Malaysia kbkb complain other inbound photog come take photo.

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Actually they hundred percent know that is illegal. Is just standard wumao plotek tactic to derail and confuse the issue. Replace the ccp photographer with bharat worker’s and suddenly their confusion clears up.
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chinese are closet racist la

deep down many of them carry Akmal's behavioral genes

btw somewhere last year a video viral in Tiktok where malays photogs confronted CCP tourists that offered RM10 per pic service around KLCC, they outright rampas malays rezeki, and Malays dare to confront them



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Actually they hundred percent know that is illegal. Is just standard wumao plotek tactic to derail and confuse the issue. Replace the ccp photographer with bharat worker’s and suddenly their confusion clears up.
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not to say bharat lar

replace it with rohingya, see what's their reaction

for me ILLEGALS are ILLEGALS, no matter where they from , be it from myanmar , nigeria, ukraine or usa
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Actually they hundred percent know that is illegal. Is just standard wumao plotek tactic to derail and confuse the issue. Replace the ccp photographer with bharat worker’s and suddenly their confusion clears up.
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Comrade desmond2020 will be the first to open thread and condemn it hahahahhahaha
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Can't wait to see the local retailers and sellers who have been selling PRC sourced products meroyan when outskirt PRCs pacak selling the same in front of their shops.

You be surprised who are they in rotation how they got the products to sell.

Seen and seeing it in the land of law even

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Comrade desmond2020 will be the first to open thread and condemn it hahahahhahaha
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Actually they hundred percent know that is illegal. Is just standard wumao plotek tactic to derail and confuse the issue. Replace the ccp photographer with bharat worker’s and suddenly their confusion clears up.
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Hahaha it’s ok their mnc job got tongkat, but not ok if others have protection because locals sme need to compete.

Globalisation for you not for me yo.
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Hahaha it’s ok their mnc job got tongkat, but not ok if others have protection because locals sme need to compete.

Globalisation for you not for me yo.
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This was a very simple and straightforward issue thread. Ppl come in abuse tourist visa. any other country, everyone will condemn.

but somehow because its motherland, suddenly bring up examples of inbound photographer, our photog also do same thing overseas (not really), mr DIY, MNC globalization, intel etc etc.
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Some shake up good. Pre wedding photo packages was getting expensive back when i got married coming 15 years ago. So much so we had no pre wedding photo, only photos from the reception and on the day itself

but 299 is freaking ridiculous topkek. This PRCs need to come here and score how many jobs to turn a profit? And then like a locust they go and kill the market in a different country??
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Local make honest living. Means CCP ones not honest la, kan?

Make police report jer la. They do business cheating ma.

By the way, suck it up. Business world is like this. Be fit or be eaten. Last time keerp laughing at Malays for relying on tongkat and bumi priviledge. Time to walk the talk now that there is competition.
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This is a whole new species we are talking about. If put pirahna in our river, local fish all die.
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Some shake up good. Pre wedding photo packages was getting expensive back when i got married coming 15 years ago. So much so we had no pre wedding photo, only photos from the reception and on the day itself

but 299 is freaking ridiculous topkek. This PRCs need to come here and score how many jobs to turn a profit? And then like a locust they go and kill the market in a different country??
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Ayam pretty sure the 90 visa exemption is meant for tourism, not work or business. Heck we don't even have work and business exempt visa with singapore or thailand or asean, now suddenly with china got? topkek.

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not to say bharat lar

replace it with rohingya, see what's their reaction

for me ILLEGALS are ILLEGALS, no matter where they from , be it from myanmar , nigeria, ukraine or usa
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MY professional photographer follow couple to say Bali take photo also will kena arrested by their immigration.

No different here.

And i have to repeat 299 is ridiculous. How the hell they can survive with 299? Unless there is a mistake in reporting

I'm all for cheaper prices , back when i got married already cekik liao but they shouldnt compete with 299

Wtf 299?????
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MY professional photographer follow couple to say Bali take photo also will kena arrested by their immigration.

No different here.

And i have to repeat 299 is ridiculous. How the hell they can survive with 299? Unless there is a mistake in reporting

I'm all for cheaper prices , back when i got married already cekik liao but they shouldnt compete with 299

Wtf 299?????
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I think even 20 years ago rm299 package is ridiculous

and now? really charity work that one
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 25 2025, 03:33 PM)
MY professional photographer follow couple to say Bali take photo also will kena arrested by their immigration.

No different here.

And i have to repeat 299 is ridiculous. How the hell they can survive with 299? Unless there is a mistake in reporting

I'm all for cheaper prices , back when i got married already cekik liao but they shouldnt compete with 299

Wtf 299?????
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 25 2025, 03:32 PM)
Ayam pretty sure the 90 visa exemption is meant for tourism, not work or business. Heck we don't even have work and business exempt visa with singapore or thailand or asean, now suddenly with china got? topkek.
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Illegal la

Ini work liao, not a business meeting or corporate training grey area

Its bonafide cari makan work

Indons will have no hesitation to throw our ppl to jail for flouting this, we should do the same

We can still give visa free as the tourist dollars are important but in parallel we can clamp down on this. Just skodeng those ads or act on tip offs, raid a few times then the message will be sent
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 25 2025, 03:33 PM)
MY professional photographer follow couple to say Bali take photo also will kena arrested by their immigration.

No different here.

And i have to repeat 299 is ridiculous. How the hell they can survive with 299? Unless there is a mistake in reporting

I'm all for cheaper prices , back when i got married already cekik liao but they shouldnt compete with 299

Wtf 299?????
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maybe dude is exaggerating

not like china standard of living is cheaper than malaysia anymore
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 03:05 PM)

btw somewhere last year a video viral in Tiktok where malays photogs confronted CCP tourists that offered RM10 per pic service around KLCC, they outright rampas malays rezeki, and Malays dare to confront them
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hah what? sure or not? RM10 taking xhs video in front twin tower business also they want to sapu? economy that bad in PRC?
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 12:24 PM)
wumaos happy because got good and cheap, who don't want, aye?

local chinese making honest living can eat shit liao, as they are burdened with rentals, taxes, e-invoice, cukai pintu, cukai niaga, worker salaries, while those CCP tourists don't have any of these legal obligations
example drone show. about so many show already past year and coming..

obviously .. it from china expertise, and tech..
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for those who cannot tahan the competition in china, now they can opt to run to nanyang

but us locals? run to where?
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 25 2025, 03:33 PM)
MY professional photographer follow couple to say Bali take photo also will kena arrested by their immigration.

No different here.

And i have to repeat 299 is ridiculous. How the hell they can survive with 299? Unless there is a mistake in reporting

I'm all for cheaper prices , back when i got married already cekik liao but they shouldnt compete with 299

Wtf 299?????
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299 is for the photoshoot price, 2 edited photos inclusive (or not I am not sure)

subsequent photos, priced at RM 300 each (again, also not sure if it meant edited or just to see the photos)


logically it makes no sense to charge 299 for everything



what I am guessing is -- RM 299 just for the photo shooting service itself, you won't be able to see anything taken unless you pay some topup, then additional rm300 for each edited photo

wumaos may see it cheap at the surface, but after they signed up and used the service, only realize that its not as easy and cheap as it seems

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 25 2025, 03:01 PM)
Exactly.
Now why local Malaysia kbkb complain other inbound photog come take photo.
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but the china charge RM300 per piece is exorbitant la :X

QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 03:39 PM)
299 is for the photoshoot price, 2 edited photos inclusive (or not I am not sure)

subsequent photos, priced at RM 300 each (again, also not sure if it meant edited or just to see the photos)
logically it makes no sense to charge 299 for everything

wumaos may see it cheap at the surface, but after they signed up and used the service, only realize that its not as easy and cheap as it seems
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tulur picited.

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 03:39 PM)
299 is for the photoshoot price, 2 edited photos inclusive (or not I am not sure)

subsequent photos, priced at RM 300 each (again, also not sure if it meant edited or just to see the photos)
logically it makes no sense to charge 299 for everything

wumaos may see it cheap at the surface, but after they signed up and used the service, only realize that its not as easy and cheap as it seems
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Hmm.. 300 for subsequent full res photos is very cekik darah also hahha

Good la you make your deal with the devil you live with it kek
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May be basic package is rm299 but must buy at least 10 photos @rm300 each, total rm3299.
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Wishing for skilled tit tar lou come and offer b40 price

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maybe they talking about china students
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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 25 2025, 03:42 PM)
May be basic package is rm299 but must buy at least 10 photos @rm300 each, total rm3299.
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then I don't see how local can't compete lol
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Hmm.. 300 for subsequent full res photos is very cekik darah also hahha

Good la you make your deal with the devil you live with it kek
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malaysia photog also go taiwan, bali, korea take photos ma
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Those photographers I think are engaged by MY couples here to take their pre wedding pics overseas

The same apple to apple would be our photog go there and take TW and Korean pre wedding photos

But still its wrong. Indonesia has caught photographers doing this in Bali even though engaged by MY couples

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 12:24 PM)
wumaos happy because got good and cheap, who don't want, aye?

local chinese making honest living can eat shit liao, as they are burdened with rentals, taxes, e-invoice, cukai pintu, cukai niaga, worker salaries, while those CCP tourists don't have any of these legal obligations whistling.gif
https://www.chinapress.com.my/?p=4391246
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Bluffing itzit? RM299
Not even B40 if they hired a team
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Lanjiao 299

I give you RM500 you hire a team for me, i dont want extra images, ngam ngam what the photographer offer will do

If deal done i give you extra RM300
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 25 2025, 03:44 PM)
Those photographers I think are engaged by MY couples here to take their pre wedding pics overseas

The same apple to apple would be our photog go there and take TW and Korean pre wedding photos

But still its wrong. Indonesia has caught photographers doing this in Bali even though engaged by MY couples
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if want to say that, those who come to do sales event, seminar, training all also wrong already :X
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my question is, why the Chinese photographer can come out to our market and flood the market with cheap price, but we don't know how to do the same by going to other cheaper market and flood them instead? why are we so fixated to stuck here and don't know how to do the same and compete instead?
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greedy, incompetent and etc. cause local chinese photographer learn from red book or douyin on photographer technique to get local client. when real master come, they of course lose la. price is cheap and competitive, perhaps gov can look for visa, if they foreigner die die want earn money here.

on country view, the whole malaysia now will be flooded with more skill worker and develop faster.
on business owner/sme view, china people will get most of the position or alternate cheaper better service. those local middle man business will gg. like those ecommerce selling china stuff. of course la gg
on consumer view, win win win. cheap to get things done. enjoy better world.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 25 2025, 03:44 PM)
been to a china run resto. they charge a cutlery fee....yes you need to pay to use spoon bowl cup etc. heck even baiwei minibowl started charging for coway drinking water ...thats when I boycott out of the ridiculoussness.
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my wedding photographer won't be just worth rm299 lol...

I hired local better, at least they are doing a proper job with reasonable charge. I can sense if they want to charge expensive but give and take la. i know they also cari makan. Sy tolong Malaysian nie..

owai...
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 25 2025, 02:22 PM)
In most cases, it is the stupid local wumao that helps the overseas PRCs to come and get set up here. Like a joint venture, helping them to take over their fellow local C business.

You see those illegal biz done by PRC, always have local C partners in crime.

Just f___ them all.
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Fake la

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But you dont get pay with 299SGD per month kan
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my question is, why the Chinese photographer can come out to our market and flood the market with cheap price, but we don't know how to do the same by going to other cheaper market and flood them instead? why are we so fixated to stuck here and don't know how to do the same and compete instead?
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the spotlight style origin from US as a form of artistic photography style of a certain person, then china copy it and convert from art into service production manufacturing line churning out volumes. Usually 299 start with 1-3 picture but usually if people like the outcome, they will be upsell to top-up for more photos.

their service are very efficient and hardworking, booking all schedule in advance by sales runner, multiple studio rooms for concurrent shoot, all done in parallel, after photoshoot on the spot touch up and collect money. They work extra time too. Like a concert tour.
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if want to say that, those who come to do sales event, seminar, training all also wrong already :X
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Should be ok. i think the line most countries would take is would that job be billable? Going for corporate training or seminar, meeting at regional office should be fine

Doing consultation, implementation or other professional services work you start to cross the line. Say MY you get a foreigner to come implement a system whether SW or machinery for you already need a special temp employment pass. Same goes for Indonesia and many other places



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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 25 2025, 03:32 PM)
Ayam pretty sure the 90 visa exemption is meant for tourism, not work or business. Heck we don't even have work and business exempt visa with singapore or thailand or asean, now suddenly with china got? topkek.
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Circling back to this Thailand and Singapore allows business but dont think it will go up to 90 days

Again meetings, seminars training etc. The line is non billable as my old HR used to say kek

Indonesia however is notoriously very scarce on details on what type of "business" they allow

The most effective method i've seen to call a bluff was what a sinkie did. The immigration guy was giving him trouble because he was just having a meeting at the local office he demanded to go to the visa on arrival section and PAY for a business visa on arrival. The officer at that counter actually turned him back and told off the initial immigration guy. ASEAN ngak butuh visa untuk meeting!


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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 03:39 PM)
299 is for the photoshoot price, 2 edited photos inclusive (or not I am not sure)

subsequent photos, priced at RM 300 each (again, also not sure if it meant edited or just to see the photos)
logically it makes no sense to charge 299 for everything
what I am guessing is -- RM 299 just for the photo shooting service itself, you won't be able to see anything taken unless you pay some topup, then additional rm300 for each edited photo

wumaos may see it cheap at the surface, but after they signed up and used the service, only realize that its not as easy and cheap as it seems
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That means it's a scam la. Lure you with low initial cost, then potong after you fall into the trap. They have to keep looking for new waterfish.

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Apr 25 2025, 03:40 PM)
but the china charge RM300 per piece is exorbitant la :X
tulur picited.
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I suspect the OP photographer is not giving to whole context la.
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Not sure for wedding photography market.

For Malay wedding, we still hire local Malay photographer to snap the pictures etc.

When it comes to wedding pictures, it's a sensitive thing and it's a 1 time event.

So most of the newly married couples needs personalised service that cater them and understand on what they need

Even if photographer or married couple can speak english, it is still not comfortable when you interact between each other.

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where is immigration with this?

they should impose workpass to do this kind of things


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QUOTE(Alternate Gabriel @ Apr 25 2025, 04:15 PM)
Not sure for wedding photography market.

For Malay wedding, we still hire local Malay photographer to snap the pictures etc.

When it comes to wedding pictures, it's a sensitive thing and it's a 1 time event.

So most of the newly married couples needs personalised service that cater them and understand on what they need

Even if photographer or married couple can speak english, it is still not comfortable when you interact between each other.
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It's a pre-photo shoot

But still i dont trust it, until anybody put the ad or contact here
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Local make honest living. Means CCP ones not honest la, kan?

Make police report jer la. They do business cheating ma.

By the way, suck it up. Business world is like this. Be fit or be eaten. Last time keerp laughing at Malays for relying on tongkat and bumi priviledge. Time to walk the talk now that there is competition.
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Hahaha, honest living in the Malatard mindset maybe is got kasi duit kopi, bayar gardenia roti, and hidup susah sana sini.

To the CCP, as long sendiri work, got uang, its honest uangs. Even genting day day win 200 hinggit also honest money.

But again, not all sohai is made equivalent. Nowadays here UK business also hard to do, thanks to the cheapo useless sohai Bharat and stupid gwailous tarnishing the name of Luxury Airbnbs.

Mahai made our life so difficult that stayers keep asking stuff like do you have touring videos, unfiltered photos of the studio, and live video conversation for that studio.

Cheebai I got close to 50 studios in entire london, if you choose wanna see one in Shepard Bush then another one in Strafford I teleport here there let you video call ah? Humgarchan.
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They fly over and still cheaper and more stunning products?

Time to open license for them to apply?
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this is misuse of tourist visa. tourists cannot work.

but msian immigration, don't expect anything done lah.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 12:24 PM)
wumaos happy because got good and cheap, who don't want, aye?

local chinese making honest living can eat shit liao, as they are burdened with rentals, taxes, e-invoice, cukai pintu, cukai niaga, worker salaries, while those CCP tourists don't have any of these legal obligations whistling.gif
https://www.chinapress.com.my/?p=4391246
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read the article, select one photo ada charge macam few hundred, so the total package is about few thousand.

If not mistaken pre wedding photo package for several sets of indoor and one set of outdoor cost about RM4-5k, if include wedding itself probably cost extra RM3-4k like that. if it is pre-wedding photo probably tongsan mari are cheaper lah. Tapi comparing apple to apple probably they didn't offer outdoor wedding photo.

QUOTE(9m2w @ Apr 25 2025, 03:44 PM)
Those photographers I think are engaged by MY couples here to take their pre wedding pics overseas

The same apple to apple would be our photog go there and take TW and Korean pre wedding photos

But still its wrong. Indonesia has caught photographers doing this in Bali even though engaged by MY couples
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I remember my friend took the taiwan wedding package, the taiwan side has photographer and make up artist station there already, i suspect is their affiliate or partner, after they complete then send softcopy over to Malaysia side.
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Haizzz..wumao also see Msia as cheap place...damn it...

Post 1980s, Msia used to donate money back to CCP so they can buy food to eat. My dad used to donate to him kampong lo.

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 25 2025, 12:24 PM)
“RM299? I can’t even cover my costs at that price. But I know they make their money from the additional photo selections later, charging RM300 per photo, which ultimately adds up to thousands of ringgit,” he said.

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so why cant he offer this too?
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 25 2025, 03:44 PM)
been to a china run resto. they charge a cutlery fee....yes you need to pay to use spoon bowl cup etc. heck even baiwei minibowl started charging for coway drinking water ...thats when I boycott out of the ridiculoussness.
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most of them doing scams with the visa-free
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Wow 2012 post also 30sen army can dig out. I'm absolutely convinced that 30sen army are paid cybertroopers.
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They are doing it all for free.  icon_idea.gif
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I don't even know how he dig out that 2012 post. It's like they have a list of blackmail on every forum member here.
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I don't even know how he dig out that 2012 post. It's like they have a list of blackmail on every forum member here.
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Amoi talk about CCP photographer's package. Seems like RM299 is real.
Makeup included, and very good.
Clothes included.
Value for money.


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QUOTE(Raddus @ Apr 25 2025, 01:09 PM)
Now days smartphone photos so good quality why even need photographer
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There are many ppl think like this but if u are serious need good photography stuff usually need hire professional photographers and their camera spec


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I don't even know how he dig out that 2012 post. It's like they have a list of blackmail on every forum member here.
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2025 already.. now got AI enabled troopers. all equipped with chatgpt deepseek. maybe there are some unrelease top secret model that only available for the troopers.
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Now days smartphone photos so good quality why even need photographer
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you hire photographer for the "camera quality"?? if u just need "camera quality" can always rent a high spec camera for a day if that is your thing..

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I don't even know how he dig out that 2012 post. It's like they have a list of blackmail on every forum member here.
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Dude, Malaysian clients would pay for the airfare and accommodation of the Malaysian photographers to Bali/Japan.

But Malaysian clients wouldn't pay for the airfare and accommodation of the China's photographers in Malaysia.

You can't see the difference?
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Ohh no wonder, why my sister friend kpkb years ago when competing with someone and suddenly they say how to deal with airfare and accommodation, now make sense
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Days of paying 10k a shoot is over
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 26 2025, 02:12 PM)
Amoi talk about CCP photographer's package. Seems like RM299 is real.
Makeup included, and very good.
Clothes included.
Value for money.


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299 only inclusive of two edited photos

I saw some replies on Thread

For subsequent photo they are charged at 100-150 each, without paying you are not even allowed to snap the PC screen with your phone

And if you thick face enough to just take the bare package at 299, be prepared for the ongoing PUA, if not their attempt at blocking you from leaving, happened before in Midvalley for hair saloon

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Many ppl shared in XHS before

They don't let you go until you swipe your card


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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 25 2025, 01:21 PM)
They could be here for 90 days.
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90 days no need expense for food and lodging?
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90 days no need expense for food and lodging?
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stay in ccp own "hotel", eat ccp "imported" food.. owai..
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stay in ccp own "hotel", eat ccp "imported" food.. owai..
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CCP hotel and food is free?
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QUOTE(ceras @ Apr 27 2025, 08:23 PM)
90 days no need expense for food and lodging?
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12 person share an AirBnB

Eat cup noodles and mamak

Won't die one, they had worse in China
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 27 2025, 08:26 PM)
12 person share an AirBnB

Eat cup noodles and mamak

Won't die one, they had worse in China
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they may as well work in scam centre in myanmar where food and lodging is free
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QUOTE(ceras @ Apr 27 2025, 08:28 PM)
they may as well work in scam centre in myanmar where food and lodging is free
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And risk of live organ harvesting? Really?

Remember the recent raid on scam center in Bangsar south

All CCP with a few locals

Msian much better environment than Myanmar for sure
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12 person share an AirBnB

Eat cup noodles and mamak

Won't die one, they had worse in China
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Aiyoh no need so Cham la. Stay in rented condo in velocity, enjoice hotpot restaurant there. Business good enough to cover
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QUOTE(ZeaXG @ Apr 25 2025, 12:31 PM)
Local make honest living. Means CCP ones not honest la, kan?

Make police report jer la. They do business cheating ma.

By the way, suck it up. Business world is like this. Be fit or be eaten. Last time keerp laughing at Malays for relying on tongkat and bumi priviledge. Time to walk the talk now that there is competition.
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Try doing the other way ,
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 27 2025, 08:31 PM)
And risk of live organ harvesting? Really?

Remember the recent raid on scam center in Bangsar south

All CCP with a few locals

Msian much better environment than Myanmar for sure
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WHereever the scam center, they include lodging and meals. In this topic, we are talking about freelance people travelling on their own expense to provide photography service at rock bottom prices of rm299. No way this can become a viable business in any form that become a treat to locals.
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90 days no need expense for food and lodging?
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They are not tourists, could be sharing condo, travel by grab and have instant noodle at home.


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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 27 2025, 08:35 PM)
Aiyoh no need so Cham la. Stay in rented condo in velocity, enjoice hotpot restaurant there. Business good enough to cover
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Bingchilling scammer piggies live like that. They want to compete with Bharatian scammers.
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Bingchilling scammer piggies live like that. They want to compete with Bharatian scammers.
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Then who patronize those hot pot restaurants in velocity?
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Then who patronize those hot pot restaurants in velocity?
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This is a bit like Nokia complaining that Android phones are taking over the market, unfair competition etc. Wants govt to step in to rescue them.
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QUOTE(Jojolin @ Apr 27 2025, 10:53 PM)
This is a bit like Nokia complaining that Android phones are taking over the market, unfair competition etc. Wants govt to step in to rescue them.
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That is highly unlikely. Usually govts will plotek only those too big to fail companies. Where if they fall many others will be impacted.

Freelance photographers, sorry la.
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Jgn lah mengharapkan tongkat. Kerja kuat lagi lah. Jgn jadi manja asyik mau tongkat je.
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299 just covers the services (Make up, shoot, PS), the catch is each picked photos gonna get charged separately, few hundred ringgit per pic. Let the client cannot escape. Good practice or not? your call.
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QUOTE(LemonHoneyIce @ Apr 27 2025, 11:15 PM)
299 just covers the services (Make up, shoot, PS), the catch is each picked photos gonna get charged separately, few hundred ringgit per pic. Let the client cannot escape. Good practice or not? your call.
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Correct, that is how kena ripoff. Kenot say no because event already done
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 25 2025, 01:03 PM)
but why you need photographer for marriage in this age. everyone got good camera is the palm of their hand.
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topkek

i know potochop also lel...just need a good cumera some lightings

then can shoot shoot and cleanup
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They are not tourists, could be sharing condo, travel by grab and have instant noodle at home.
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you are not a tourist. How much is your monthly expense living in KL?
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QUOTE(LemonHoneyIce @ Apr 27 2025, 11:15 PM)
299 just covers the services (Make up, shoot, PS), the catch is each picked photos gonna get charged separately, few hundred ringgit per pic. Let the client cannot escape. Good practice or not? your call.
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that's borderline illegal kan

our consumer law got something that you cannot charge something not pre-agreed after both side agreed for the pricing

in Msia maybe all close one eyes

in SG or other 1st world countries, such practice can be brought to court
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Apr 28 2025, 01:47 PM)
that's borderline illegal kan

our consumer law got something that you cannot charge something not pre-agreed after both side agreed for the pricing

in Msia maybe all close one eyes

in SG or other 1st world countries, such practice can be brought to court
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what borderline? from beginning is illegal already cuz photodog is not here doing work legally. should just say "you no let me go I report you to immigration!"
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there is practically zero cost advantage if the china people come and take photograph. it not like product, it is a service.

you as a malaysian who speaks the local languague, like malay, english, mandarin, has huge advantage over the china people, which only speak mandarin, and most of the local chinese cant even know what they are speaking.

2ndly, you as a local has customer base, you surely has referrals from word of mouth from your previous jobs. unless you are pretty bad at this.

if they are bad at their service, surely they will be gone. just keep up the good work, and people will come for your service.

like all the previous mentioned, the final cost is more or less the same, or even more expensive, then why is this even an issue?

and you can report them if you see them providing service without permit

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So many idiots in this thread missed the point. You can’t work legally here on tourist visa.
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Apr 28 2025, 02:02 PM)
there is practically zero cost advantage if the china people come and take photograph. it not like product, it is a service.

you as a malaysian who speaks the local languague, like malay, english, mandarin, has huge advantage over the china people, which only speak mandarin, and most of the local chinese cant even know what they are speaking.

2ndly, you as a local has customer base, you surely has referrals from word of mouth from your previous jobs. unless you are pretty bad at this.

if they are bad at their service, surely they will be gone. just keep up the good work, and people will come for your service.

like all the previous mentioned, the final cost is more or less the same, or even more expensive, then why is this even an issue?

and you can report them if you see them providing service without permit
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things change already

Gen Z trust XHS more than bible now
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local photographer also can go on XHS to promote their services. Are the local photographer not allowed to use XHS?
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QUOTE(nivota @ Apr 25 2025, 12:29 PM)
my question is, why the Chinese photographer can come out to our market and flood the market with cheap price, but we don't know how to do the same by going to other cheaper market and flood them instead? why are we so fixated to stuck here and don't know how to do the same and compete instead?
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coz greedy bang, rather charged high high n no business also dun wan lower the price
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QUOTE(nivota @ Apr 25 2025, 12:29 PM)
my question is, why the Chinese photographer can come out to our market and flood the market with cheap price, but we don't know how to do the same by going to other cheaper market and flood them instead? why are we so fixated to stuck here and don't know how to do the same and compete instead?
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You mean not so cheap market right? Cos you cant flood a cheaper market by going even cheaper than them, thats comitting suicice

And some countries actively prevent this

One is Indonesia. MY couples used to engage local photographers to follow them overseas to say Bali and snap pre wedding photos. This is not snapping local indonesians but actualy MY couples. Authorities there got wise and clamped down on this and other professions such as scuba divers and even Chris Leong

You go in on a tourist visa with excessive gear you're bound to be questioned by immigration

An alternative would be getting a local to help you by collaborating, ship your gear to him and you fly in on a tourist visa. But that would be committing a crime which isnt exactly competing on fair terms.
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QUOTE(nivota @ Apr 25 2025, 12:29 PM)
my question is, why the Chinese photographer can come out to our market and flood the market with cheap price, but we don't know how to do the same by going to other cheaper market and flood them instead? why are we so fixated to stuck here and don't know how to do the same and compete instead?
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Bcos simply increasing prices is already our self made culture, while we conveniently blame other races for such predicament.
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There are many ppl think like this but if u are serious need good photography stuff usually need hire professional photographers and their camera spec
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Blablabla

At least not vital for a photo collect dust put under bed or inside store room laugh.gif
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Blablabla

At least not vital for a photo collect dust put under bed or inside store room laugh.gif
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they harm, scams, destroy
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If you believe in that rm299 story you're a fuckin sohai.
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can Msians compete?....

high chances...nope.

especially puak tongkat....


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korea full day photog rm9xx only leh.. damn alot things included.. wear hanbok around all day and got ppl take picture for family.
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can Msians compete?....

high chances...nope.

especially puak tongkat....
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How to compete with people working 12 hours a day 6 days a week and stay in 6 person hostel dorm? Other countries people long ago will mogok and demonstrate under these conditions but only CCP ppl willing to live like this.
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korea full day photog rm9xx only leh.. damn alot things included.. wear hanbok around all day and got ppl take picture for family.
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that is rate by local korean right?

ayam always wonder why photog malaysia so expensive
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How to compete with people working 12 hours a day 6 days a week and stay in 6 person hostel dorm? Other countries people long ago will mogok and demonstrate under these conditions but only CCP ppl willing to live like this.
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CCP companies only?...I won't deny even for some people i know in Huawei tells me....

LOL....worked in an india-bharat big organization before?...ie: TATA

Done any business dealings with big japanese infras like NTT? ...

or even any korean companies that has no worker union?...

you can be surprised...even Mexico and even some parts of europe companies ....the similar work environment is seen as well....and this are white collar workers...

Most of this country, ppl cannot afford the "kais pagi makan pagi, kais petang makan petang" mentality...like tongkat land...

The history notations from British colonial days , even the Brits notice the differences........real topkek to say it's just CCPs.

...and which brings my simple personal deduction....why tongkat-land has more gov servants than any regional countries......more than 4.5% of pop..."cannot compete without high level of protectionism".



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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 2 2025, 08:58 AM)
that is rate by local korean right?

ayam always wonder why photog malaysia so expensive
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Yaya in klook also huge range rm400+ but one hour photoshoot session near the castle only.. to me that's also pretty good already.. so happen in Korea now haha engage their service.
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Malaysia’s small businesses see red over plan to extend visa-free scheme for Chinese visitors

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Here is a summary of the video:

The video discusses concerns about the impact of the Malaysia-China 90-day visa-free policy, particularly regarding Chinese photographers offering services at extremely low prices [00:06].

A Malaysian photographer complained about Chinese photographers using undercutting tactics, offering packages like two outfits, makeup, photo editing, and venue for just 299 Ringgit [00:14].

The host believes that this is a scam, where the initial low price increases significantly with hidden charges, potentially reaching 5000 to 7000 Ringgit [00:44].

The host cites a news report about Chinese photographers taking advantage of the 30-day mutual visa exemption between Malaysia and China by offering all-inclusive packages for as low as RM299 [01:47].

The host expresses concern that these Chinese photographers, who may be illegally detained, are exploiting the 90-day visa-free entry to engage in black market activities and scams [01:33].

The host references a Chinese YouTuber, 實話實說 Max 花子, who is also against the 90-day visa-free policy, believing it will attract individuals looking to exploit the system rather than for tourism [06:00].

The host suggests that the 90-day visa-free policy should be reserved for those who have undergone stricter screening processes [09:40].

The host proposes stricter laws and penalties, including hefty fines and potential jail time, to deter illegal labor and unfair competition [11:09].

The host is worried about the future and asks for suggestions on how to stop the unfair competition [11:45].

The host suggests organizing and putting pressure on the government to cancel the 90-day policy [11:59].


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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5520267

also someone make similar topic already
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The video discusses concerns about the impact of the Malaysia-China 90-day visa-free policy, particularly regarding Chinese photographers offering services at extremely low prices [00:06].

A Malaysian photographer complained about Chinese photographers using undercutting tactics, offering packages like two outfits, makeup, photo editing, and venue for just 299 Ringgit [00:14].

The host believes that this is a scam, where the initial low price increases significantly with hidden charges, potentially reaching 5000 to 7000 Ringgit [00:44].

The host cites a news report about Chinese photographers taking advantage of the 30-day mutual visa exemption between Malaysia and China by offering all-inclusive packages for as low as RM299 [01:47].

The host expresses concern that these Chinese photographers, who may be illegally detained, are exploiting the 90-day visa-free entry to engage in black market activities and scams [01:33].

The host references a Chinese YouTuber, 實話實說 Max 花子, who is also against the 90-day visa-free policy, believing it will attract individuals looking to exploit the system rather than for tourism [06:00].

The host suggests that the 90-day visa-free policy should be reserved for those who have undergone stricter screening processes [09:40].

The host proposes stricter laws and penalties, including hefty fines and potential jail time, to deter illegal labor and unfair competition [11:09].

The host is worried about the future and asks for suggestions on how to stop the unfair competition [11:45].

The host suggests organizing and putting pressure on the government to cancel the 90-day policy [11:59].

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Here's more information regarding the concerns surrounding the Malaysia-China 90-day visa-free policy and its impact on local photographers, based on recent news reports:

Concerns about unfair competition: Local Malaysian photographers are worried that Chinese photographers are taking advantage of the visa-free policy to offer services at significantly lower prices, undercutting local businesses. One example mentioned is a package including two outfits, makeup, photo editing, and a venue for only RM299, while local photographers typically charge much more.

Impact on local businesses: The Melaka Photographers Society reported a 70% drop in business in the past 1.5 years due to competition from mainland Chinese photographers. This issue extends beyond photography, affecting other small businesses like tour guides, auto workshops, and beauty salons.

Visa misuse: There are concerns that some Chinese nationals are using tourist visas to work illegally, disrupting the livelihoods of local businesses.

Government response: The government is aware of these concerns and is considering measures to address the issue, including stricter immigration controls and increased scrutiny to prevent visa abuse.

Positive aspects of the visa-free policy: The visa-free policy has boosted tourism, with nearly 900,000 Chinese visitors recorded in April 2025. It also facilitates business and cultural exchanges between Malaysia and China. The extension of the visa-free policy aims to attract more tourists and boost the tourism sector, supporting the Visit Malaysia 2026 campaign.

Longer visa-free stay: Malaysia and China have extended the mutual visa-free scheme from 30 to 90 days, allowing Chinese tourists to stay in Malaysia for up to 90 days, and Malaysians to travel to China visa-free for up to 30 days.
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even CCP holding valid LTP in Msia is against the idea of 90 day visa free travel of CCP


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QUOTE(Dr Jan Itor @ May 5 2025, 11:19 PM)
Wu Maos incoming to defend their comrades from this
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You own self not competitive in circumventing the law, don't cry when others steal your rice bowl.
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Why do scammers from China come to Malaysia?

Tak takut kene tindas ke dengan type M?

Kite kuat pegang tongkat.

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happened last month and this is what will happen if u allow massive amounts of CCP people into your country, philipines allowed gambling investments from CCP through their POGO program few years ago

and today their chinese community there is paying the price, many CCP scammers and profesional kidnappers set foot there and conducted many high profile kidnappings against who? filipino chinese lol, and masterminded by who? CCP chinese ppl

u think CCP lang talk about ka ki lang with u as a chinese? dream on la hahahhaa

this is just one of the high profile kidnapping in philipines, there are many more kidnapping cases targetting filipino chinese, because why? because they are rich

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They should apply for a different kind of visa, not tourist visa. Report aje and this is tax revenue leakage
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ May 5 2025, 11:58 PM)
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happened last month and this is what will happen if u allow massive amounts of CCP people into your country, philipines allowed gambling investments from CCP through their POGO program few years ago

and today their chinese community there is paying the price, many CCP scammers and profesional kidnappers set foot there and conducted many high profile kidnappings against who? filipino chinese lol, and masterminded by who? CCP chinese ppl

u think CCP lang talk about ka ki lang with u as a chinese? dream on la hahahhaa

this is just one of the high profile kidnapping in philipines, there are many more kidnapping cases targetting filipino chinese, because why? because they are rich
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Unfortunately most of them are already here in lowyat kopitiam.
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Not just CCP China wedding photographers but home contractors/ /repairers/renovators as well, .......

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...-into-nightmare - Rogue contractors turn home repair into nightmare - 27 June 2025
A CHEF in Johor Baru regretted paying unlicensed contractors from China to fix his house after it began leaking again just days after work concluded, reported Sin Chew Daily.

Jia De Bao whose house in Taman Jaya Mas has been leaking for the past four years saw an advertisement on social media and contacted a company which purpotedly had experienced contractors who are able to stop leakage without having to hack walls or floors.

The 47-year-old said two huge men then drove to his place in Malaysian-registered cars.

“They had a mainland Chinese accent and were frank that they were working here despite having only a tourist visa,” he said.

The men quoted RM6,900 to seal up all the leaks in the house.

Jia was taken aback over the price but later agreed after they gave him a six-year guarantee that there will be no more leaks.

They wanted Jia to transfer the full RM6,900 to a bank account in Singapore.

Only after pressing them for a receipt did the two men fill up a store-bought receipt indicating that they had received RM6,900.

Jia began to suspect something amiss when he saw that the receipt did not have a company letterhead.

When asked, the two men told him their company was headquartered in Kuala Lumpur.

One week later, the leaks began again and Jia realised that he had been scammed.

He tried to contact the contractors again on WhatsApp but all his messages were ignored.

Jia made a police report and brought the matter to the Domestic Trade and Cost of Living Ministry.

However, the authorities are treating this as a commercial dispute rather than a criminal case.

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Not just CCP China wedding photographers but home contractors/ /repairers/renovators as well, .......

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...-into-nightmare - Rogue contractors turn home repair into nightmare - 27 June 2025
A CHEF in Johor Baru regretted paying unlicensed contractors from China to fix his house after it began leaking again just days after work concluded, reported Sin Chew Daily.

Jia De Bao whose house in Taman Jaya Mas has been leaking for the past four years saw an advertisement on social media and contacted a company which purpotedly had experienced contractors who are able to stop leakage without having to hack walls or floors.

The 47-year-old said two huge men then drove to his place in Malaysian-registered cars.

“They had a mainland Chinese accent and were frank that they were working here despite having only a tourist visa,” he said.

The men quoted RM6,900 to seal up all the leaks in the house.

Jia was taken aback over the price but later agreed after they gave him a six-year guarantee that there will be no more leaks.

They wanted Jia to transfer the full RM6,900 to a bank account in Singapore.

Only after pressing them for a receipt did the two men fill up a store-bought receipt indicating that they had received RM6,900.

Jia began to suspect something amiss when he saw that the receipt did not have a company letterhead.

When asked, the two men told him their company was headquartered in Kuala Lumpur.

One week later, the leaks began again and Jia realised that he had been scammed.

He tried to contact the contractors again on WhatsApp but all his messages were ignored.

Jia made a police report and brought the matter to the Domestic Trade and Cost of Living Ministry.

However, the authorities are treating this as a commercial dispute rather than a criminal case.

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Victim knew conmen only have tourist visa..victim believe conmen give 6 yrs warranty... No wonder scammer love Malaysia..land of opportunity

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bunch of other industries also affected once the chinamen started flooding in
construction, robotics, raw mats, even retail
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Because of incompetence

QUOTE(nivota @ Apr 25 2025, 12:29 PM)
my question is, why the Chinese photographer can come out to our market and flood the market with cheap price, but we don't know how to do the same by going to other cheaper market and flood them instead? why are we so fixated to stuck here and don't know how to do the same and compete instead?
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QUOTE(GagalLand @ Jun 28 2025, 02:31 PM)
Because of incompetence
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No lah. It's because of lawlessness by some CCP China people, ie they are breaking Malaysia Immigration Law by working with their "free" 90-days tourist visa. .......

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/11/we-...n-tourist-visas - 'We All Are One' concert CEO among 7 Korean citizens detained in Indonesia for illegally working on tourist visas
- 24 Nov 2022


https://inp.polri.go.id/artikel/bali-immigr...rmit-violations - Bali Immigration Investigates South Korean Artists for Permit Violations
Jakarta. Bali Immigration Office recently investigated 31 South Korean artists and crew, along with one Indonesian artist, for suspected permit violations during the filming of the reality show "Pick Me Trip in Bali." ...
- 27 April 2024


CCP China is also well known for counterfeit luxury products, copycats, fake/toxic foods, tofu dreg construction, cheap but low quality products, false advertisements, scams, salary non-payment before close-shop, etc. Eg, .......

- GOOGLE TRANSLATED: A list of hilarious scenes of beauties turning off beauty filters (accidentally.?). I usually don’t laugh unless I really can’t help it.
- 23 aug 2023

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You still living in your comfort zone

You should make a visit to China’s major cities

QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 29 2025, 02:16 PM)
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No lah. It's because of lawlessness by some CCP China people, ie they are breaking Malaysia Immigration Law by working with their "free" 90-days tourist visa.  .......

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/11/we-...n-tourist-visas - 'We All Are One' concert CEO among 7 Korean citizens detained in Indonesia for illegally working on tourist visas
- 24 Nov 2022


https://inp.polri.go.id/artikel/bali-immigr...rmit-violations - Bali Immigration Investigates South Korean Artists for Permit Violations
Jakarta. Bali Immigration Office recently investigated 31 South Korean artists and crew, along with one Indonesian artist, for suspected permit violations during the filming of the reality show "Pick Me Trip in Bali."  ...
- 27 April 2024


CCP China is also well known for counterfeit luxury products, fake/toxic foods, tofu dreg construction, cheap but low quality products, false advertisements, scams, salary non-payment before close-shop, etc. Eg, .......

- GOOGLE TRANSLATED:  A list of hilarious scenes of beauties turning off beauty filters (accidentally). I usually don’t laugh unless I really can’t help it.
- 23 aug 2023

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Can speak Malaysia? No? Lost 70% market already.
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