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post Apr 23 2025, 03:38 PM, updated 8 months ago

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If you had thought what will happen to the next generation, you would have done it...
Your family should be good, if you have the mind to remove pocket, then this is how....

You are fighting to become a leader... What are you tearing ??


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post Apr 23 2025, 03:40 PM

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everyday temple issues. yawn
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post Apr 23 2025, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(kimochi ii @ Apr 23 2025, 03:40 PM)
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everyday temple issues. yawn
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Young Indians got sadden about this issues and got brickbats because old gen mistakes.

Other races also scold them because these. Kesian.

This post has been edited by MaybachS600: Apr 23 2025, 03:45 PM
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post Apr 23 2025, 03:45 PM

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Dey apa dia cakap lah
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lowyat.tamil/hindi/tollywood. dey translate sikit lah you ingat gua semua understand apa itu olang tulis?
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post Apr 23 2025, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Apr 23 2025, 03:45 PM)
Dey apa dia cakap lah
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QUOTE(Silfer @ Apr 23 2025, 03:47 PM)
lowyat.tamil/hindi/tollywood. dey translate sikit lah you ingat gua semua understand apa itu olang tulis?
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Gen Y: If those uncles form a team to survey, send un registered temples an notice to register and help them to register those temple, we as Gen Y will not being shamed and mocked by other races today.

Old gen: People lived in the 50s-80s, MIC, Malaysia Hindu Sangam and Temple managements.

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post Apr 23 2025, 04:06 PM

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Cannot entirely blame the older gen. They (the India origin) were brought in by british plantation owners. What happen after estate ownership changed hands and what failed to cease (their estate housing, their aminities ie place of worship) with their employment with the estates is today's result.

The then estate workers (old gen) has this 'adverse possession' mind in them. So they stayed on thinking.

https://lawcrust.com/adverse-possession-india-law/

Who failed to correct this? That this law is tak laku-pakai in Msia, I leave this for another chapter.

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move on ler, now younger gen do what?
better work on improvements for own race
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post Apr 23 2025, 04:10 PM

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post Apr 23 2025, 04:21 PM

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Why is the young generation shame?

They didn't commit any crime, they are unaware of anything, most importantly, you didn't do it for worldly profits, you are simply practicing your religion.

Just rectify the problem at hand, move on, and avoid repeating the same mistake.

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post Apr 23 2025, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Apr 23 2025, 03:53 PM)
Gen Y: If those uncles form a team to survey, send un registered temples an notice to register and help them to register those temple, we as Gen Y will not being shamed and mocked by other races today.

Old gen: People lived in the 50s-80s, MIC, Malaysia Hindu Sangam and Temple managements.
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I think they need to understand between land ownership, structure approval, land kebenaran kegunaan and temple registry.

Even the temple (chinese temple included) is registered but you don't own the land, land kegunaan not approved, building plan not approved, you still need to bring the registered temple operation elsewhere valid.

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post Apr 23 2025, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 23 2025, 04:21 PM)
I think they need to understand between land ownership, structure approval, land kebenaran kegunaan and temple registry.

Even the temple (chinese temple included) is registered but you don't own the land, land kegunaan not approved, building plan not approved, you still need to bring the registered temple operation elsewhere valid.
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Not exactly. If the temple is old, there's always something called pemutihan to make sure all the plans are approved. Usually it involved a aku janji and majlis and local authorities will not be liable for anything that happens later like collapse, fire etc.

So the mainnnnn point is always the land. That is something that cannot be white washed, they need to own the land the current owner need to be wiling to sell the land lol

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post Apr 23 2025, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Apr 23 2025, 04:31 PM)
Not exactly. If the temple is old, there's always something called pemutihan to make sure all the plans are approved. Usually it involved a aku janji and majlis and local authorities will not be liable for anything that happens later like collapse, fire etc.

So the mainnnnn point is always the land. That is something that cannot be white washed, they need to own the land the current owner need to be wiling to sell the land lol
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I shall keep that in mind, pemutihan

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post Apr 23 2025, 05:45 PM

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Yes, land ownership is important or at least get a rent grant (black & white) from the land owner. If you dont own the land or any documents to back up, the land owner with the legal documents can do whatever they want.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 23 2025, 04:06 PM)
Cannot entirely blame the older gen. They (the India origin) were brought in by british plantation owners. What happen after estate ownership changed hands and what failed to cease (their estate housing, their aminities ie place of worship) with their employment with the estates is today's result.

The then estate workers (old gen) has this 'adverse possession' mind in them. So they stayed on thinking.

https://lawcrust.com/adverse-possession-india-law/

Who failed to correct this? That this law is tak laku-pakai in Msia, I leave this for another chapter.
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Since when facilities provided by employer to employees need to be retained and transfered to ex employees?

Example if my employer provided me with house accomodation and surau at company facility, can i ask for the surau to be retained and transfer to me and my colleagues? And we also want to stay at our company accomodation also for free

Can ah?

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post Apr 23 2025, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Apr 23 2025, 05:46 PM)
Since when facilities provided by employer to employees need to be retained and transfered to ex employees?

Example if my employer provided me with house accomodation and surau at company facility, can i ask for the surau to be retained and transfer to me and my colleagues? And we also want to stay at our company accomodation also for free

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Which part of "what failed to cease" that you did not comprehend in my writting?

You may want to reread the para

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post Apr 23 2025, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 23 2025, 05:50 PM)
Which part of  "what failed to cease" that you did not comprehend in my writting?

You may want to reread the para
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Sorry why there is special case where it ‘failed to cease’ ? This does not written in any law

You not the employees of the said company anymore. You cannot ask for ownership of the company facilities.

I ask you again. Show me any evidence where the ex employee can continue to stay or use company provided facilities even after they not employed or the company ceased operation
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post Apr 23 2025, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Apr 23 2025, 04:06 PM)
Cannot entirely blame the older gen. They (the India origin) were brought in by british plantation owners. What happen after estate ownership changed hands and what failed to cease (their estate housing, their aminities ie place of worship) with their employment with the estates is today's result.

The then estate workers (old gen) has this 'adverse possession' mind in them. So they stayed on thinking.

https://lawcrust.com/adverse-possession-india-law/

Who failed to correct this? That this law is tak laku-pakai in Msia, I leave this for another chapter.
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It is not that simple.

You have to remember that when an estate changed ownership, the owner don't simple just bulldoze and flatten everything to an empty land.

It is more often that the new owner is also paying for the infrastructure that is on the piece of land and continue to develop and utilize the infrastructure.

And some how the land ownership falls to the government that proceed to break up estate into multiple plot of land and in the process of legitimizing and provisioning land for the existing infrastructure, for some reason conveniently left out the temple that is already there on the piece of land from since the beginning.

That is how many of these hundred year old temple got shatfed in the first place.
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Apr 23 2025, 05:59 PM)
Sorry why there is special case where it ‘failed to cease’ ? This does not written in any law

You not the employees of the said company anymore. You cannot ask for ownership of the company facilities.

I ask you again. Show me any evidence where the ex employee can continue to stay or use company provided facilities even after they not employed or the company ceased operation
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Aiyo fren, you really got reading comprehension problem. I meant exactly what's in your mind here.

I copy here for your reading again.

"Cannot entirely blame the older gen. They (the India origin) were brought in by british plantation owners. What happen after estate ownership changed hands and what failed to cease (their estate housing, their aminities ie place of worship) with their employment with the estates is today's result"

I don't know why you understood the direct opposite here.

You read post 21. He/she has understood the context correctly.

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QUOTE(Satan Fallen One @ Apr 23 2025, 06:03 PM)
It is not that simple.

You have to remember that when an estate changed ownership, the owner don't simple just bulldoze and flatten everything to an empty land.

It is more often that the new owner is also paying for the infrastructure that is on the piece of land and continue to develop and utilize the infrastructure.

And some how the land ownership falls to the government that proceed to break up estate into multiple plot of land and in the process of legitimizing and provisioning land for the existing infrastructure, for some reason conveniently left out the temple that is already there on the piece of land from since the beginning.

That is how many of these hundred year old temple got shatfed in the first place.
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'Shafted' is a big word here and that's how and why all these contentions all about today.

"What failed to cease" in the first place.

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Apr 23 2025, 06:35 PM
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Move on la..illegal means illegal
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move on lar dey tambi

illegal occupation move to own land la...buy your own land...nobody cares what u wanna do on your own land

people angry coz built on other people land...LITERALLY on other people land...complete with geran etc...really wanna fight ar??? topkek

others laugh liaoo lorr...if legal nobody wanna bising lar..kek
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Apr 23 2025, 05:45 PM)
Yes, land ownership is important or at least get a rent grant (black & white) from the land owner. If you dont own the land or any documents to back up, the land owner with the legal documents can do whatever they want.
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kuil in Rasah
Sime darby offer to sell to kuil
but kuil dont want to buy
in other word, want free land .

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Kuil Sri Mahamariamman Rasah Melalui Usaha Bersama

Dokumen-dokumen penting ini telah diserahkan oleh Encik Pushpanathan Selam, mewakili jawatankuasa kuil, kepada YB Tuan Veerapan. Hasil penelitian YB daripada dokumen-dokumen itu, mendapati bahawa Sime Darby telah mencadangkan sama ada tanah tersebut dibeli berdasarkan nilai pasaran atau secara alternatifnya kerajaan negeri melaksanakan pengambilan tanah secara rasmi yang sudah tentu akan melibatkan kos yang tinggi memandangkan kuil ini terletak dikawasan yang premium dan strategik. Namun, jawatankuasa kuil terhalang oleh pelbagai cabaran termasuk sumber yang terhad dan kekangan teknikal dan sebagainya.


finally, sime darby has to surrender the land to kuil . want to sell, kuil refuse to buy. kuil also dont want to move out.

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sendiri punya action bagi malu bangsa sendiri. Already become a laughingstock for the whole country. In bolehland, encroachers have their rights on the things not belonging to them. Mantap

 

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