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post Jul 11 2025, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jul 11 2025, 12:27 AM)
TM routing strikes again, 2 days ago having high ping playing world of warships..send pingplotter to wargaming and they say routing issue..adui

contact TM see if they fix or whatever this issue..sigh

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Base on the screenshot given, there are few TM ip block have congestion issue to the server ip given. You try restart to get another ip address hope its helps you.

Btw, the issue is not from Equinix (Egress route) issue, is from the server (Ingress route) SGIX to TM on certain ip block congested
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jul 11 2025, 12:51 AM)
i have restart twice and same, fedup already end up contact game cs then tm

but now i test with pingplotter its fine..what is going on?

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congestion on incoming route to TM blush.gif

what ip block you get currently?
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post Jul 11 2025, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jul 11 2025, 02:15 AM)
you mean ip address? 175. something soemthing
before wednesday all fine, then wednesday night start but tonight i test night it start then 12am+ back to normal

im at b'worth penang
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oh ya forget that you are under private ip, the congestion happen most of the time during peak hours. Only public ip could fix this biggrin.gif

but yesterday i did a test on 175.137. also got problem but not much loss packet as yours.
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post Jul 11 2025, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jul 11 2025, 09:25 AM)
TM to Equinix SG link can be quite congested during daytime, they only have a 300G port there

A ton of things are hosted in Equinix SG including Shopee
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TM traffic to Equinix SG never congested (Egress)
Equinix SG traffic to TM is congested (Ingress) especially peak hours

its the same issue as AS6939 Hurricane Electric.

i suspect they throttle it or their balancing gone wrong way, cannot be 300G not enough use. Another IX also no such issue even have lower port speed then Equinix.

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post Jul 11 2025, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(kwss @ Jul 11 2025, 10:14 PM)
I can reproduce this problem.
After some diagnostic, I concluded TM's router at SGIX is broken or their 200Gbps is congested.
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nothing to do with SGIX

look at the screnshoot,

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post Jul 12 2025, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(kwss @ Jul 11 2025, 11:42 PM)
I said TM punya router.
Inside SGIX.

Even gave the IP address yo...
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if base on what you said on the router issue it happen at most IP transit ingress traffic back to TM not only this, it cant be determine whether really congested or not or due to throttling at their back end causing loss packet.


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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jul 11 2025, 11:56 PM)
now fine, 8 something to like 11pm something only the high ping

keep bugging tm then if not i also dont know what anymore
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next solution is use VPN biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kwss @ Jul 12 2025, 12:08 AM)
I think you did the test too late. I did it earlier when it really is congested.
All packet after the router has high latency.
All packet egress from G-CORE to other ASN don't have problem.

Your screenshot shows only control plane throttling. If I get that output I will agree with your analysis.

I also specifically chose G-CORE because both TM and G-CORE have selective peering policy in SGIX and peer with each other.

BGP output from looking glass shows only one exit.
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i do a test tomorrow at 9pm see how it goes,

most of the time we encounter the issue is ingress traffic back to TM and seldom have issue on egress traffic out from TM. that why i only see 1 output.

for now what i know this three traffic(Equinix SG, HE (SG,SJC) , SEABONE) back to TM are congested 90% at peak hours
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jul 12 2025, 12:08 AM)
these vpn need to pay right?

just game only no need ..just this week i got free premium days so play a little more if not play other games haha
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yes, but if you are under cgnat ip using vpn or not there is no different because you still congested under tm network.

or you may try using mobile network as your last solution.

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QUOTE(kwss @ Jul 12 2025, 12:45 AM)
Yes, now if you try again there's no more control plane throttling.

I kind of cheated by not testing Equinix SG because I have workload there with a symmetrical routing (meaning ingress and egress via Equinux SG).
So that itself tells me it's not Equinux SG. 😂
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i did a test a moment ago, still got loss packet under TM SGIX router but the speedtest show full speed.

you got a machine that using Equinix SG for both way traffic ? last time i had 1 also but due to congestion issue and loss packet issue then i asked provider to adjust another upstream for ingress traffic to TM.
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QUOTE(kwss @ Jul 12 2025, 12:58 AM)
You will still hit packet loss due to control plane policy, but the latency should be very low now, for me it's only 0.6ms.

Yes I have machine there and it is fine now. I remember last year it was terrible.
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i guess we are under different ip block so the result are different biggrin.gif

i just remember covid time really is nightmare.

Actually until now i still dont know how TM control their traffic flow to end users under each ip block or others way which i dont know and keep causing whole network congested, its seem so messy compare others ISP.


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QUOTE(kwss @ Jul 12 2025, 02:51 AM)
I have a proposal to solve this.
Since both AS4788 and AS199524 selectively peer with each other, and they both have presence in DE-CIX ASEAN, just remove the BGP session in SGIX and set them up in DE-CIX ASEAN.

I don't know why TM didn't proactively review their peering when they connect at DE-CIX ASEAN. These kind of thing really improve user experience.

They still need to fix their SGIX router, whether it's congestion or the router itself reaching it's limit but every step helps.
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you can ask AS199524 to change ingress route if you wanted biggrin.gif

just sent them the info and explanation they would help out
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see how disgusting TM managing their network, eventually this happen already more then 2 weeks.

as per checked is not HE ip transit fault.



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post Jul 12 2025, 09:24 PM

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kwss

Regarding SGIX test, everything seem fine including down speed

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QUOTE(kwss @ Jul 12 2025, 09:06 PM)
Want to provide me endpoint information for diagnostic?
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i already know the issue and resolved by changing the route, above screenshot just my sharing how TM manage their network laugh.gif

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QUOTE(kwss @ Jul 12 2025, 09:59 PM)
Oh okay then.
But if I want to take a guess based on the graph alone, it looks like Forward Error Correction is in action.

So the fiber cable or the module is falling apart but they didn't actually go dead. This won't trigger any monitoring system.
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the problem is from ingress to TM not egress to destination. i dont think is due to FEC
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QUOTE(crkhoo @ Jul 12 2025, 10:36 PM)
This routing has been on since last month, bad packet loss starting from Osaka b2 to Amazon AWS, almost every evening, but fine during AM and usually during the day, just bad once 7pm onwards till late 1-2AM.

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Because ingress is using HE upstream, try do mtr to your ip then you know why keep losing packet.
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QUOTE(kwss @ Jul 13 2025, 12:27 AM)
Err... Equipment failure can happen anywhere on the network right? Especially if it's fiber optic.
The graph clearly show pattern of FEC.

Why the fiber can fail in egress but it cannot fail on ingress?
Plus you don't know if they use TX RX on a single fiber. Or TX one fiber, RX another fiber.

It's even more complicated when it comes to MPO connector. If only 1 strand has problem, you can get weird behavior.
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my conclusion is there is no issue from egress part, only ingress are the one.

i had observe on ingress traffic to TM for few upstream transit from my machine within few location.

1)HE (SG,SJC) APAC and US direction loss packet, good for EU
2)TELIA (SG) APAC direction loss packet, good for EU
3)SEABONE (SG) APAC direction show loss packet, good for EU

as long not using this three upstream for routing everything will be fine.








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QUOTE(kwss @ Jul 13 2025, 01:38 AM)
Actually when he reported the AWS problem I tested HE SG+SJO. No problem for me.
Arelion ingress no problem too.
TATA also okay ingress from SJO to SG to MY.

So mmm... I cannot reproduce the problem and cannot really tell what is the problem.

So it gotta have something to do with the BGP optimization software used by TM again.
Or some kind of MPLS circuit problem that affects some path.

What's your location anyway?
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i am using 175.137 when i testing there is problem on loss packet on HE (AS6939) on ingress and tried 219.93 still the same also.




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QUOTE(kwss @ Jul 13 2025, 09:52 PM)
Ok I tested.
HE route all your packet to France then back to MY.

For my IP address, it goes straight to me.

Test location: Singapore
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HE ingress to TM
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TELIA ingress to TM
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just did the test not long ago, here you go smile.gif



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