QUOTE(kwss @ Sep 29 2025, 02:31 PM)
The only thing I am interested when it comes to networking + China is anti-censorship software from the people.
Their great firewall kills cross-border performance. They have 10gbps fiber to the home just like Singapore and Switzerland but it's useless to anything overseas, just like TM evening congestion.
US government already ban China Telecom in America. Basically what China Telecom does is offers Direct Connect (DX) and services to selected China company so user in America has great experience.
If you are AWS customer you can get one too.
https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-qnkjhp2vtw4fmWhat DX does is basically bypass the great firewall, pending approval from the Party. I think all you need is an ICP license, which basically says you don't help their people bypass censorship and don't host any material the Party dislike.
I think the correct term is you must buy IP Transit from each and every big 3 state owned telco.
Their IX peering is congested on purpose so you must pay for IP transit to get great experience.
This is the foundation reason that cause PCDN to exist. Only China needs it. The rest of the world don't need to deal with this shit.
Yes, China is Business pay the price, while others is Customer pay the price, with some interesting like SG and Thailand is cheap Internet as solution.(SG I know, center is there, unsure Thailand etc)
And also HK already slowly taken control by 3 ISP in China, they provided a few cheap internet and getting famous, just it will be bad news for us, as it will means less traffic for oversea traffic.
As I recall got new cable incoming, just checked.
https://www.submarinenetworks.com/en/systems/intra-asia/alchttps://www.submarinecablemap.com/submarine...-link-cable-alcRFS
2027 Q4
Should enough?
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The Firewall is double edge, it also benefits us as it block those average user that either don't have company access to oversea(that recorded), or skill level able to using clash(I know expired, just lazy check latest one lol) to browser oversea.
But, 15 years until now, no one in my group got catch for doing that, unless you speak something sensitive, just like lowyat famous "kucing cakap jangan" theme, you really are safe to do that.
(buying, sharing and downloading R18 also no issues for them, including R18 PVC Figure and Magazine, with custom checked official paper put inside the shipping box, yes)
The China intranet is a lot worst than us, bot attack is happen even there is a lot of law/rule running this few years, everyone you are speaking on their Internet, can be a AI(since ChatGPT online) bot now.
That's why there is a meme, Internet user > real person in Guangzhou at least x10, anyone post from Guangzhou can be a bot, it is a tool used by company and oversea force to attack via speak power.
For me, I just browser via Lowyat, as I can feel such thing exist at Meta there, including WhatsApp etc on my parents phone.
(Yes, keep invite my parents to unknown group, so I set their account to disallow now)
Anyways, better stop here, as it is a complex theme/topic to talk about, I can only share my own viewpoint, based on my 20 years of surfing at China network, lol.
Just remember, each country got own sensitive topic.
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Anyways, back to real life experience, as long as I kick my Bilibili live stream video from m3u back to flv, there is stable connection available in Malaysia, the problem is the API call overhead(for m3u) is too high.
d1--ov-gotcha05b.bilivideo.com and d1--ov-gotcha05.bilivideo.com stable(can get <1s browser buffer), unstable when IPv4 unstable.
d1--ov-gotcha07b.bilivideo.com and d1--ov-gotcha07.bilivideo.com sometimes unstable(need buffer >2s), but got IPv6.
For m3u, only d1--ov-gotcha208b.bilivideo.com stable, quick check show it is TM and zenlayer MY.
Other like 207 207b, yuck.
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CODE
traceroute to 140.150.11.18 (d1--ov-gotcha05b.bilivideo.com), 30 hops max, 52 bytes payload, ICMP mode
1 *
2 100.89.191.254 * RFC6598
8.68 ms / 6.24 ms / 11.71 ms
3 10.233.97.55 * RFC1918
8.29 ms / 5.27 ms / 8.73 ms
4 10.55.76.26 * RFC1918
16.44 ms / 15.62 ms / 17.82 ms
5 218.208.94.70 AS4788 马来西亚 Kampung Sungai Ara tm.com.my
20.28 ms / 18.10 ms / 16.73 ms
6 140.150.11.18 AS54994 马来西亚 Pahang Kampung Perak meteversecloud.com
17.82 ms / 16.73 ms / 16.28 ms
CODE
traceroute to 58.26.7.175 (d1--ov-gotcha05b.bilivideo.com), 30 hops max, 52 bytes payload, ICMP mode
1 *
2 100.89.191.254 * RFC6598
6.95 ms / 7.39 ms / 11.29 ms
3 10.233.97.55 * RFC1918
5.34 ms / 6.21 ms / 5.98 ms
4 10.55.48.32 * RFC1918
11.36 ms / 9.74 ms / 8.63 ms
5 219.94.9.58 AS4788 [INFRA-TMNET] 马来西亚 雪兰莪州 瓜拉雪兰莪 tm.com.my
10.25 ms / 16.49 ms / 12.82 ms
6 58.26.7.175 AS4788 马来西亚 吉隆坡联邦直辖区 吉隆坡 tm.com.my
11.74 ms / 12.82 ms / 11.92 ms
Only TM for 05.
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CODE
traceroute to 2602:ffe4:407:2002::2 (d1--ov-gotcha07.bilivideo.com), 30 hops max, 52 bytes payload, ICMP mode
1 *
2 2001:e68:402c:8001::ba AS4788 马来西亚 双文丹 tm.com.my
7.16 ms / 6.88 ms / 6.61 ms
3 2001:e68::b:4010 AS4788 马来西亚 tm.com.my
14.31 ms / 45.97 ms / 19.48 ms
4 *
5 2400:8800:1e02::5 AS3491 中国 香港 pccwglobal.com
88.00 ms / * ms / * ms
6 2400:8800:1f02:77::2 AS3491 中国 香港 pccwglobal.com
48.86 ms / 50.43 ms / 47.57 ms
7 2602:ffe4:400:192::2 AS21859 新加坡 zenlayer.com
51.43 ms / 51.95 ms / 50.96 ms
8 *
9 2a0b:21c0:1000:1::326 AS21859 德国 黑森州 美因河畔法兰克福 zenlayer.com
110.58 ms / 108.50 ms / 113.86 ms
10 *
11 2602:ffe4:407:2002::1 AS21859 新加坡 zenlayer.com
92.18 ms / 94.50 ms / 97.24 ms
12 2602:ffe4:407:2002::2 AS21859 新加坡 zenlayer.com
49.67 ms / 49.84 ms / 49.65 ms
CODE
traceroute to 156.59.8.178 (d1--ov-gotcha07.bilivideo.com), 30 hops max, 52 bytes payload, ICMP mode
1 *
2 100.89.191.254 * RFC6598
10.87 ms / 13.11 ms / 9.96 ms
3 10.233.97.55 * RFC1918
6.99 ms / 7.77 ms / 6.11 ms
4 *
5 27.111.228.183 AS21859 新加坡 Equinix Singapore - Zenlayer Inc - 200Gbps zenlayer.com
21859.sgw.equinix.com 35.95 ms / 38.73 ms / 42.59 ms
6 *
7 156.59.150.37 AS21859 [ZEN-SG] 新加坡 zenlayer.com
45.76 ms / 42.13 ms / 39.38 ms
8 169.254.0.98 * RFC3927
42.74 ms / 38.93 ms / 32.46 ms
9 10.254.7.241 * RFC1918
38.93 ms / 35.33 ms / 17.23 ms
10 156.59.8.178 AS21859 [ZEN-SG] 新加坡 zenlayer.com
50.12 ms / 27.31 ms / 40.50 ms
Same server for 07 and 07b
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Another news for today, 3 China ISP got license to launch and operate Traffic/Internet satellite, so if lucky, Asia can get hand for sea customer to use the satellite, when 6G is ready?
This will greatly improve internet coverage in Asia, specially for forest country like us, only problem is price.