Wtf are you doing DAP??
DAP tawar jadi pembela durian raub VS authority🤦
DAP tawar jadi pembela durian raub VS authority🤦
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Apr 19 2025, 09:40 PM, updated 8 months ago
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Wtf are you doing DAP?? |
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Apr 19 2025, 09:51 PM
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Here is a summary of the video:
* DAP Pahang is offering to mediate between the state government and illegal farmers to facilitate constructive negotiations for a harmonious resolution [00:00]. * This commitment aims to increase revenue for the state government and ensure the organized and sustainable management of the agricultural sector throughout the state [00:09]. * DAP Pahang acknowledges that farmers have been cultivating land in the Raub area without government permission for decades [00:28]. * The Musang King durian industry in the area has grown into an internationally recognized brand [00:36]. * Farmers have expressed their desire to collaborate with the state government to further develop the durian industry and boost the state's economy [00:45]. * DAP Pahang fully supports that land administration falls under the jurisdiction of the state government [00:54]. * Sultan Pahang, Al-Sultan Abdullah Riuddin Al-Mustafa Billah Shah, has called for an end to illegal land encroachment in the state [01:01]. * A total of 14,494.9 hectares of government land have been illegally encroached upon and cultivated with palm oil, rubber, durian, and various other crops [01:10]. |
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Apr 19 2025, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Apr 19 2025, 09:40 PM) The Pahang MeowMeow already raise blood see illegal land occupation in his state. And they still wanna get burned to charcoal by this? Are they stupid?This post has been edited by ZeroSOFInfinity: Apr 19 2025, 09:54 PM |
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Apr 19 2025, 09:55 PM
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Fuuh, 15,495.9 hectares? That's half the size of Penang Island. What to mediate lerr, they've got no cards. QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Apr 19 2025, 09:51 PM) Here is a summary of the video: * DAP Pahang is offering to mediate between the state government and illegal farmers to facilitate constructive negotiations for a harmonious resolution [00:00]. * This commitment aims to increase revenue for the state government and ensure the organized and sustainable management of the agricultural sector throughout the state [00:09]. * DAP Pahang acknowledges that farmers have been cultivating land in the Raub area without government permission for decades [00:28]. * The Musang King durian industry in the area has grown into an internationally recognized brand [00:36]. * Farmers have expressed their desire to collaborate with the state government to further develop the durian industry and boost the state's economy [00:45]. * DAP Pahang fully supports that land administration falls under the jurisdiction of the state government [00:54]. * Sultan Pahang, Al-Sultan Abdullah Riuddin Al-Mustafa Billah Shah, has called for an end to illegal land encroachment in the state [01:01]. * A total of 14,494.9 hectares of government land have been illegally encroached upon and cultivated with palm oil, rubber, durian, and various other crops [01:10]. imin and SiakapRM1000 liked this post
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Apr 19 2025, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Apr 19 2025, 10:54 PM) The Pahang MeowMeow already raise blood see illegal land occupation in his state. And they still wanna get burned to charcoal by this? Are they stupid? Bas tengah terbakar throw ownself under it.There better be something like a massive gold deposit under it else their grave headstone gonna read very funny. zamans98 liked this post
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Apr 19 2025, 10:01 PM
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when talk about money even religion has to step back prolexus liked this post
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Apr 19 2025, 10:09 PM
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Looks like the trees chopped down the other day was just a fraction. They oredi ruined the entire Klau landscape with their illegal plantations. What's there to nego? Digifriend07 and prolexus liked this post
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Apr 19 2025, 10:18 PM
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Apr 19 2025, 10:22 PM
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I thought tauke durian mostly support MCA last time. Why DAP now help them? They donate a lot to milotin? prolexus liked this post
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Apr 19 2025, 10:26 PM
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It is time to imprison them all, trying to steal land and make huge profit from it. Don't act surprised pikachu if your suapan rasuah is no longer working to make authorities blind-eye towards your illegal activities. prolexus, corallinkz, and 1 other liked this post
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Apr 19 2025, 10:36 PM
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Apr 19 2025, 11:08 PM
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Sultan already said want to settle this once and for all!
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Apr 19 2025, 11:17 PM
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DAP Raub kena up car to the sky already. Area voters doesn't care about their service but their illegal farming. Whichever political party serving them now or next will eventually kena fk up side down. This post has been edited by Chisinlouz: Apr 19 2025, 11:23 PM max_cavalera liked this post
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Apr 19 2025, 11:18 PM
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Apr 19 2025, 11:18 PM
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Kuil on illegal land ok
Durian tree should also be ok |
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Apr 19 2025, 11:23 PM
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/k cakap dap party paling suci, how come like this aizat22 liked this post
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Apr 19 2025, 11:36 PM
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* DAP Pahang acknowledges that farmers have been cultivating land in the Raub area without government permission for decades [00:28].
Fuckers. This is akin of putting stolen money in own ASM account. Eventhough it nets alot of profit but it is still fucking illegal. No different than najib?? |
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Apr 19 2025, 11:36 PM
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Pahang gov pls ban DAP from the state politic prolexus liked this post
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Apr 19 2025, 11:41 PM
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Apr 19 2025, 11:44 PM
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State govt know 14,500 ha of land has been encroached but choose to do nothing for the past few decades until recently?
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Apr 19 2025, 11:51 PM
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Apr 19 2025, 11:57 PM
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Apr 20 2025, 12:10 AM
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tone deaf.
DAP is soo tone deaf What message are they saying? Illegal land ownership is a nod? |
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Apr 20 2025, 12:36 AM
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Apr 20 2025, 12:37 AM
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Last time mca diam je. Why DAP now so much noise
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Apr 20 2025, 12:41 AM
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1 billion addendum
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Apr 20 2025, 12:44 AM
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who the fuck advise DAP PAHANG??? really seisohai....no ammo gip ammo to perikatan...MP RAUB really seisohai bodo idiot...state gomen do enforcement u lawan really bodo liaoo,,,where the fuck is anthony loke??? busy give present backdoor to Xi Jin Ping ka?? from top to bottom DAP become retards liao
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Apr 20 2025, 12:55 AM
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Not worse than Perikatan Nasional menunggang Mat Belon.
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look at these stupiak ktards that dont bother to check the farmer history.
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Apr 20 2025, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Apr 19 2025, 09:54 PM) The Pahang MeowMeow already raise blood see illegal land occupation in his state. And they still wanna get burned to charcoal by this? Are they stupid? Sure lah wanna act hero and mighty. Gomen kan. 😁😁On a side note, why before this didn't propose agreement or pay leh. Untunglah dpt tanam berpuluh tahun without ownijg the land. Mesti sudah pulang modal with profits |
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This Pahang DAP really acting like cina bukit one. They don't even see how the majority voters now perceiving them as trying to help bunch of thieves "Israelized" the land then claim as victims after real owner fight back. Dumb Durian Action Party this Pahang DAP.
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Apr 20 2025, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Apr 19 2025, 09:51 PM) * DAP Pahang acknowledges that farmers have been cultivating land in the Raub area without government permission for decades [00:28]. There you go. Case closed.Ownself acknowledge sarahan farmers already. prolexus liked this post
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Apr 20 2025, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Apr 20 2025, 01:04 AM) Mca time know if stand up for illegal sure kena One of the kuil issue is mainly dbkl fault, they sold the land to Jakel despite knowing the land was requested to be purchased by the kuil committee repeatedly, yet they still go ahead and sold it.But now DAP dare to do this because got precedent illegal settlers can get the land they stole thanks to kuil issue under PH / madani The land they take is significantly little compared to this fiasco, and further more they don't make profit other than collecting donations to improve, maintain, hold religious event, etc. 1st rukun negara, kepercayaan kepada tuhan, they are simply practicing their belief, so it is commendable cause, completely different issue than those huge land grabs that is purely to generate profit at the cost of destroying many natural habitat. |
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Apr 20 2025, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE(KarchKiraly @ Apr 20 2025, 02:33 AM) This Pahang DAP really acting like cina bukit one. They don't even see how the majority voters now perceiving them as trying to help bunch of thieves "Israelized" the land then claim as victims after real owner fight back. Dumb Durian Action Party this Pahang DAP. israelized? dont u know the jews actually bought many land before 1948? |
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Apr 20 2025, 07:46 AM
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If the farmer is non C would DAP defend the farmer? Digifriend07 and prolexus liked this post
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Apr 20 2025, 07:55 AM
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QUOTE(kcal @ Apr 20 2025, 07:44 AM) 1948 boughted land in never a problem. After 1948 the nakba where the problem starts (land they cannot buy simply take).For this case simple the guy they are paying to make blind eye retires. So no more blind eyes. |
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see the problem with you guys
dap quiet u say they like MCA now when they speak up then you say they stupid so you want them to stay quiet or speak up...? |
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Apr 20 2025, 08:07 AM
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Way to gofuckyourselfintheass
Stupiak move |
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Apr 20 2025, 08:08 AM
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want to mediate for thieves?
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Apr 20 2025, 08:12 AM
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What is there to negotiate about?
All you lawyers and legislator lawmakers must know the concept of Property Rights? No. Evict. Charge in court. If guilty, jail and/or fines according to law. Cut down and bulldoze area so that it returns to original conditions. The End. Law is law |
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Apr 20 2025, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE(kcal @ Apr 20 2025, 07:44 AM) You mean bought the land at a gunpoint, is it?I didn't know that was legal, supposed to be willing buyer, willing seller. Now they don't even bother to "buy" any land, just grab it. If I don't steal it, someone else will steal it, lol. This post has been edited by smsid: Apr 20 2025, 08:14 AM |
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Apr 19 2025, 09:54 PM) The Pahang MeowMeow already raise blood see illegal land occupation in his state. And they still wanna get burned to charcoal by this? Are they stupid? What is wrong with dap? All this while they diam diam. Now already the end of the issue and sultan already titah, suddenly dap come out to bela? They tak paham bahasa? prolexus liked this post
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Apr 20 2025, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(ahter @ Apr 19 2025, 11:44 PM) State govt know 14,500 ha of land has been encroached but choose to do nothing for the past few decades until recently? they were waiting for the durian trees get older, because older the durian trees, more valuable they are...and now they sees the durian trees are older and valuable, and they gonna do something to make sure these durian trees will be their hands instead of the durian farmers... |
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QUOTE(tkn0811 @ Apr 20 2025, 08:55 AM) they were waiting for the durian trees get older, because older the durian trees, more valuable they are... Actually what I heard they are cutting down those durian trees en masse, so what conspiracy are you talking about?and now they sees the durian trees are older and valuable, and they gonna do something to make sure these durian trees will be their hands instead of the durian farmers... Sekejap land ada gold, and now this. |
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The solution they offer is to lease the land from state government no? Even offer higher price. State government already awarded the land to meow meow right?
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salah tetap salah lah. mcm kes gisb tu....ada je duit boleh kasi sponsor mcm2 but wrong is wrong. why so difficult to understand Digifriend07, Pepelepewwwww, and 2 others liked this post
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Apr 20 2025, 09:53 AM
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Wrong is wrong is true but sohai only compare gisb with durian
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Apr 20 2025, 09:56 AM
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Dang DAP. Even type C disagree with this
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Really party durian
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Let them plant
Produce fruits ?????? Profitiitit |
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QUOTE(ahter @ Apr 19 2025, 11:44 PM) State govt know 14,500 ha of land has been encroached but choose to do nothing for the past few decades until recently? it's the gov land, they can choose to act early or later whichever inflicts the most damage to someone who encroaches their land.not just gov but even private land owner practice this. most will take action when the crop is ready for harvest after more than 10 years esp palm estate cases. it's either they get free estate in return or massive damage to the encroachers. |
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QUOTE(Satan Fallen One @ Apr 20 2025, 12:31 PM) Why Sultan Pahang created a middle man company to buy durian from them with dirt cheap price to export to China if they work the land illegally? because tree still belong to farmer. Only land can take back by force. Else have to wait forty years to grow same grade of tree. |
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Looks like there wont be raub durians anymore.............
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QUOTE(smsid @ Apr 20 2025, 07:19 AM) One of the kuil issue is mainly dbkl fault, they sold the land to Jakel despite knowing the land was requested to be purchased by the kuil committee repeatedly, yet they still go ahead and sold it. what a bodo replyThe land they take is significantly little compared to this fiasco, and further more they don't make profit other than collecting donations to improve, maintain, hold religious event, etc. 1st rukun negara, kepercayaan kepada tuhan, they are simply practicing their belief, so it is commendable cause, completely different issue than those huge land grabs that is purely to generate profit at the cost of destroying many natural habitat. what's the difference betweeen u guys and israel? emefbiemef liked this post
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Durian Action Party in action.
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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Apr 21 2025, 09:48 AM) We don't kill or kidnap children.Not saying what they did is right, but nevertheless, they do it to practice their religion that has been around for at least 4 millennium. They didn't do it for profits by paksa suap rasuah. |
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Apr 21 2025, 09:59 AM) Oh, u went with PMX to bangcock to songkran Oppss, I mean to work a? Enjoy or not? M4A1 liked this post
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Pls read this blog of former Raub MP: https://sakmongkol.blogspot.com/2025/04/the...-economics.html
Part 1 The Raub durian growers and the economics of corruption. Tales by an unknown blogger. No 87 1. It is reported that some 14000 hectares of land are illegally cultivated . 2. That's in Raub district. 3. It is equivalent to about 35000acres. If 1 Felda scheme is 5000 acres, that's equivalent to 7 Felda schemes. 4. If each person is allocated 10acres, we can settle in 3500 people 5. If that person were an ex serviceman,, then promises made by the late tun razak that servicemen be given land, can be fulfilled. 6. The 'value of corruption per person as calculated by macc and transparency international is about rm1600 per capita. 7. For 3500 people that would be 3500x1600, its 5.6 million a year. 8. Assuming that the illegal cultivation in Raub has taken place for 10 years , the 'value' of corruption is 56 million. 9. As pak Sako, a pahang man would say, WOW! 10. Mana itu Wang pergi? To the relevant officers of the Raub land office la. 11. Using the common sense and not easily disputed logic of the late tun hanif omar, there's a 95 % probability, that the officers are Malay. 12. What would the catfish mouthed UMNO politician recommend we do to these Malay officials,? Jail them? Shoot them? Rescind any honorific titles given them? Circumcise them a 2nd time? 13. Good God! I must now read Gary S Becker's the 'economics of corruption'. 14. The value of corruption varies directly with the average height of the durian trees. Title. Part 2 The durian growers in Raub. A different view. Tales by an unknown blogger. No 86 . 1. There is a public lynching state of mind about the durian cultivation on government land in Raub. 2. Almost all, save Kadir Jasin are saying, these Chinese growers deserved it. It's kill, baby kill. 3. Most of these opinion shapers , I suspect are just armchair analysts and critics . Throwing Molotov cocktail of opinions in the dark. To flare up the issue. 4. At least Kadir Jasin has been in Raub. I met him when I was campaigning in Raub. 5. The arguments for repossession of the land varied. They ranged from the swashbuckling types to the ones put up by self righteous eco warriors. 6. Some of these people are saying, take the lands back, the lands do not belong to the Chinese durian growers nor do they belonged to their grandfathers. 7. The Chinese growers are defiant, uncouth and disrespectful trespassers. Charge them and destroy their handiwork. 8. I will let you on a little secret. Illegal economic enterprises have been done and continue to be done by ALL races in Raub. 9. Chinese grow durians and oil palms. Hey the malays are doing the same; grow durians oil palms , vegetables and so on. They opened up ponds , rear free range chickens, rear cattle and goats. 10. Kelantaneses built settlements on government lands, opened up lands to grow durians, vegetables, bunga kantan and so on. They even built suraus on government land. 11. So if like what a little Napoleon of a Pahang official said, the government has got rights over its land -converted by slant eyed ah bengs, including the rights to cut down lulian trees, do the same to ALL. 12. Yes, cut down the durian trees but cut down too palm oil trees planted by malays in ulu atok, jeram besu, kampungs Gali, dong and ulu dong, in durian sebatang, jelu etc. burn all the vegetables. cull the chickens, goats and cows reared on government land, poison the fishes, bulldoze the illegal and non titled dwellings and most heroic of all, raze the suraus built illegally on government land. 13. So, open your bloody cow dung mouth and then see, what's supposed to come out from the rear end now comes out from the mouth! 14. Burn baby burn. Destroy baby destroy. 15. The self righteous eco warriors - who and what are they? Are they people who embrace trees and whisper sweet nothings to trees? Sheesh! 16. The only person whom I know who does that is sharifah Sabrina of the tanah aina fame. She will peluk trees, talk lovingly to them and maybe smooches them . 17. Therefore if people want to become real eco warriors, join her. Don't be seasonal or topical eco warriors. Being that farcical group just when the raub durian issue surfaced. Just when there's a big hoo-ha about illegal Chinese lulian growers in Raub came up, eh eh you are eco lovers . 18. The same sanctimonious bastards keep quiet when more damaging illegal logging take place in Raub for the past umpteen years 19. The illegal logging take place probably with the connivance and complicity of the Raub district forest department. 20. That brings us to the vicariously and severally liability of the raub land office. Circumcise the DO and SOs a second time . 21. The durian trees that we saw felled down, are of fruiting age. 5 to 10 years, right? 22. Which means that for 5 to 10 years or more, the land office did not take any corrective, remedial or enforcement actions. 23. If those measures were done intentionally, negligently or voluntarily, the land office is estopped from felling the trees. 24. In my opinion (mine only) any acts that provided the officers at tle the land office are removed because of their nonfeasance. 25. So, social media warriors, especially the Malay supremacist types, it's not a simple matter of bludgeoning the head of the Raub MP only . 26. Ask also, that those who decided to chop the durian trees be jailed for destruction of property. 27. The MP for Raub is doing what is expected of him. To defend the interests of people, maybe his supporters against the draconian and ill conceived measures of the Raub land office. He would do the same if it involves people from pamah kulat,pamah rawas, sungai pasu or ulu dong. 28. So, Mr chow Yu hui, do what is expected of you. All sane people and law abiding people, those not easily giving in to the mindless screams of Malay supremacists on social media,will support you. 29. I wouldn't give any credence at all to UMNO inspired opinions. There are several and I will comment on them briefly. 30 . I have already mentioned about the hubristic, look down attitude of a sorry excuse of a little Napoleon government official. Who said the government has rights. His opinion is just that of a hater and a hate opinion. He represents the group who just know how to destroy, not build. It's the master slave relationship in action . The coolies all have to listen to him because he has the tool of oppression. 31. There was this expected stupid statement from an equally stupid looking UMNO politician . He said because the ah bengs have made millions, take the land from them. 32. Ah ha that's how UMNO thinks, folks. It's envious of others who make money. Others work, they stay at home and procreate. UMNO would rather have a portion of the money be given to them for free. And protection money be gifted monthly to the stupid looking politician. 33. It's also hate speech, sour grapish and one tinged by racism. Anything that makes the Chinese stronger is a dagger or meat cleaver directed at malays. So, the Chinese growers must be shackled . 34. Then there was also this view from an uncle Tom MCA lass who said this isn't a racist issue. Sure ah Moy -keep saying this shit and MCA will be extinct in west pahang. It will also be an also ran party in pahang . 35. Lastly, I wonder if during fruiting seasons, basketfuls of choice lulians are sent to the DOs and SOs houses. Ang pows during festive seasons, paid for change of car tyres and paid for visits to massat centres in bentong or KL. Number 47 is good. Ipoh mali, kincing tatak munyi! |
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QUOTE(williamtan2020 @ Apr 21 2025, 10:25 AM) Pls read this blog of former Raub MP: https://sakmongkol.blogspot.com/2025/04/the...-economics.html He has a point but the Farmers lost their court case.Part 1 The Raub durian growers and the economics of corruption. Tales by an unknown blogger. No 87 1. It is reported that some 14000 hectares of land are illegally cultivated . 2. That's in Raub district. 3. It is equivalent to about 35000acres. If 1 Felda scheme is 5000 acres, that's equivalent to 7 Felda schemes. 4. If each person is allocated 10acres, we can settle in 3500 people 5. If that person were an ex serviceman,, then promises made by the late tun razak that servicemen be given land, can be fulfilled. 6. The 'value of corruption per person as calculated by macc and transparency international is about rm1600 per capita. 7. For 3500 people that would be 3500x1600, its 5.6 million a year. 8. Assuming that the illegal cultivation in Raub has taken place for 10 years , the 'value' of corruption is 56 million. 9. As pak Sako, a pahang man would say, WOW! 10. Mana itu Wang pergi? To the relevant officers of the Raub land office la. 11. Using the common sense and not easily disputed logic of the late tun hanif omar, there's a 95 % probability, that the officers are Malay. 12. What would the catfish mouthed UMNO politician recommend we do to these Malay officials,? Jail them? Shoot them? Rescind any honorific titles given them? Circumcise them a 2nd time? 13. Good God! I must now read Gary S Becker's the 'economics of corruption'. 14. The value of corruption varies directly with the average height of the durian trees. Title. Part 2 The durian growers in Raub. A different view. Tales by an unknown blogger. No 86 . 1. There is a public lynching state of mind about the durian cultivation on government land in Raub. 2. Almost all, save Kadir Jasin are saying, these Chinese growers deserved it. It's kill, baby kill. 3. Most of these opinion shapers , I suspect are just armchair analysts and critics . Throwing Molotov cocktail of opinions in the dark. To flare up the issue. 4. At least Kadir Jasin has been in Raub. I met him when I was campaigning in Raub. 5. The arguments for repossession of the land varied. They ranged from the swashbuckling types to the ones put up by self righteous eco warriors. 6. Some of these people are saying, take the lands back, the lands do not belong to the Chinese durian growers nor do they belonged to their grandfathers. 7. The Chinese growers are defiant, uncouth and disrespectful trespassers. Charge them and destroy their handiwork. 8. I will let you on a little secret. Illegal economic enterprises have been done and continue to be done by ALL races in Raub. 9. Chinese grow durians and oil palms. Hey the malays are doing the same; grow durians oil palms , vegetables and so on. They opened up ponds , rear free range chickens, rear cattle and goats. 10. Kelantaneses built settlements on government lands, opened up lands to grow durians, vegetables, bunga kantan and so on. They even built suraus on government land. 11. So if like what a little Napoleon of a Pahang official said, the government has got rights over its land -converted by slant eyed ah bengs, including the rights to cut down lulian trees, do the same to ALL. 12. Yes, cut down the durian trees but cut down too palm oil trees planted by malays in ulu atok, jeram besu, kampungs Gali, dong and ulu dong, in durian sebatang, jelu etc. burn all the vegetables. cull the chickens, goats and cows reared on government land, poison the fishes, bulldoze the illegal and non titled dwellings and most heroic of all, raze the suraus built illegally on government land. 13. So, open your bloody cow dung mouth and then see, what's supposed to come out from the rear end now comes out from the mouth! 14. Burn baby burn. Destroy baby destroy. 15. The self righteous eco warriors - who and what are they? Are they people who embrace trees and whisper sweet nothings to trees? Sheesh! 16. The only person whom I know who does that is sharifah Sabrina of the tanah aina fame. She will peluk trees, talk lovingly to them and maybe smooches them . 17. Therefore if people want to become real eco warriors, join her. Don't be seasonal or topical eco warriors. Being that farcical group just when the raub durian issue surfaced. Just when there's a big hoo-ha about illegal Chinese lulian growers in Raub came up, eh eh you are eco lovers . 18. The same sanctimonious bastards keep quiet when more damaging illegal logging take place in Raub for the past umpteen years 19. The illegal logging take place probably with the connivance and complicity of the Raub district forest department. 20. That brings us to the vicariously and severally liability of the raub land office. Circumcise the DO and SOs a second time . 21. The durian trees that we saw felled down, are of fruiting age. 5 to 10 years, right? 22. Which means that for 5 to 10 years or more, the land office did not take any corrective, remedial or enforcement actions. 23. If those measures were done intentionally, negligently or voluntarily, the land office is estopped from felling the trees. 24. In my opinion (mine only) any acts that provided the officers at tle the land office are removed because of their nonfeasance. 25. So, social media warriors, especially the Malay supremacist types, it's not a simple matter of bludgeoning the head of the Raub MP only . 26. Ask also, that those who decided to chop the durian trees be jailed for destruction of property. 27. The MP for Raub is doing what is expected of him. To defend the interests of people, maybe his supporters against the draconian and ill conceived measures of the Raub land office. He would do the same if it involves people from pamah kulat,pamah rawas, sungai pasu or ulu dong. 28. So, Mr chow Yu hui, do what is expected of you. All sane people and law abiding people, those not easily giving in to the mindless screams of Malay supremacists on social media,will support you. 29. I wouldn't give any credence at all to UMNO inspired opinions. There are several and I will comment on them briefly. 30 . I have already mentioned about the hubristic, look down attitude of a sorry excuse of a little Napoleon government official. Who said the government has rights. His opinion is just that of a hater and a hate opinion. He represents the group who just know how to destroy, not build. It's the master slave relationship in action . The coolies all have to listen to him because he has the tool of oppression. 31. There was this expected stupid statement from an equally stupid looking UMNO politician . He said because the ah bengs have made millions, take the land from them. 32. Ah ha that's how UMNO thinks, folks. It's envious of others who make money. Others work, they stay at home and procreate. UMNO would rather have a portion of the money be given to them for free. And protection money be gifted monthly to the stupid looking politician. 33. It's also hate speech, sour grapish and one tinged by racism. Anything that makes the Chinese stronger is a dagger or meat cleaver directed at malays. So, the Chinese growers must be shackled . 34. Then there was also this view from an uncle Tom MCA lass who said this isn't a racist issue. Sure ah Moy -keep saying this shit and MCA will be extinct in west pahang. It will also be an also ran party in pahang . 35. Lastly, I wonder if during fruiting seasons, basketfuls of choice lulians are sent to the DOs and SOs houses. Ang pows during festive seasons, paid for change of car tyres and paid for visits to massat centres in bentong or KL. Number 47 is good. Ipoh mali, kincing tatak munyi! max_cavalera liked this post
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QUOTE(axelrade1 @ Apr 21 2025, 10:22 AM) because m ceroboh sorang2 so senang tarik masuk jail. meanwhile c ceroboh ramai2, so it become normalise and nampak macam di tindas. And they got money to beri suap rasuah for buat kerja buta and they hire many lawyers.This post has been edited by smsid: Apr 21 2025, 10:35 AM max_cavalera liked this post
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where is the chronology of the event? from the 1st day discover haram durian. if can know way b4 who allow haram until so vast of land the better
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Apr 19 2025, 10:00 PM) Bas tengah terbakar throw ownself under it. like that day Pahang Sultan got mentioned, ada lombong Haram.There better be something like a massive gold deposit under it else their grave headstone gonna read very funny. Must be illegal gold mine. Can't say this publicly in news or else, everyone will be rushing there to mine gold. So news just say musang king |
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