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Tarriff slam shut China-vietnam export route to US
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Apr 3 2025, 06:13 PM, updated 9 months ago
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TLDR: after first trump term tariff on china, china rejigged their supply chain to use vietnam laos cambodia etc as an intermediary country to bypass tariffs and export to USA. Now USA impose 50% tariffs on those countries to close this loophole. QUOTE Supply chain hit
Trump also imposed heavy tariffs, ranging from 46% to 49%, on Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
This represents "a full-frontal assault on Beijing's extended supply chain," said Stephen Innes from investment firm SPI Asset Management.
"Vietnam... and others in the periphery are collateral damage in what is shaping up to be the most aggressive realignment of US trade policy in a generation," he added. "This isn't tit-for-tat - it's strategic containment via tariff warfare."
Laos and Cambodia, which are among the poorest countries in the region, are heavily dependant on Chinese investment in supply chain infrastructure. The high tariff rates are expected to hit both countries hard.
China is Vietnam's largest trading partner. It was one of the key beneficiaries of US-China tensions during Trump's first term.
In 2018, Trump hit China with tariffs, causing some businesses to rethink where they made their products. Some chose to shift manufacturing to Vietnam.
This has led to an increase of exports from Vietnam to the US, with Chinese companies that have moved production to there contributing to that figure.
"Vietnam was clearly targeted [by Trump] due to its role as a conduit for China's circumvention of previous tariffs", former US trade negotiator Stephen Olson told the BBC.
While the US remains Vietnam's biggest export market, China is its largest supplier of goods, accounting for more than a third of imports, according to the latest official data.
Chinese firms were also behind nearly one in every three new investments in Vietnam last year.
Pushan Dutt, a professor at the INSEAD business school, said the new taxes on South East Asia will be "prohibitive" for China.
"China has a problem with demand and in the last Trump administration their firms had nimbly reacted to tariffs by rejigging supply chains and moving them to [South East Asian Nations]. This door has been slammed shut," he added. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgm8vxevyploThis post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Apr 3 2025, 06:14 PM
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iGamer
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Apr 3 2025, 06:17 PM
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Previously collateral “benefit” when PRC and others moved their manufacturing over to Vietnam, now collateral damage. Will this totally obliterate Vietnam progress?
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Boomwick
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Apr 3 2025, 06:18 PM
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Malaysia 24% only.. haha
Reroute to the lowest lo
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Efalex
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Apr 3 2025, 06:19 PM
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Can use Singapore, 10% only nia...
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Le Don
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Apr 3 2025, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Apr 3 2025, 06:18 PM) Malaysia 24% only.. haha Reroute to the lowest lo Malaysia can benefit
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Ttbatdtptsm
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Apr 3 2025, 06:27 PM
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Xi jinping will spend 3 days in Malaysia this month ..
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danabu
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Apr 3 2025, 06:27 PM
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Actually which countries are among the lowest tariffs by US?
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hoonanoo
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Apr 3 2025, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Apr 3 2025, 06:18 PM) Malaysia 24% only.. haha Reroute to the lowest lo pls don't nanti we kena higher tariffs USA not stupid, they can see their deficit go up
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hoonanoo
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Apr 3 2025, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(danabu @ Apr 3 2025, 06:27 PM) Actually which countries are among the lowest tariffs by US? Africa minus South Africa oh wai
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Rusty Nail
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Apr 3 2025, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Apr 3 2025, 06:18 PM) Malaysia 24% only.. haha Reroute to the lowest lo not that easy, our operating cost much higher than viet and laos
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loserguy
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Apr 3 2025, 06:37 PM
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kelvinfixx
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Apr 3 2025, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Apr 3 2025, 06:37 PM) not that easy, our operating cost much higher than viet and laos not so much difference. compare to singapore yes.
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red_satu
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Apr 3 2025, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(danabu @ Apr 3 2025, 06:27 PM) Actually which countries are among the lowest tariffs by US? The ones in stripe have the minimum 10%
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JimbeamofNRT
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Apr 3 2025, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(Efalex @ Apr 3 2025, 06:19 PM) Can use Singapore, 10% only nia... where got cheap labors ?
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keyser soze
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Apr 3 2025, 06:44 PM
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more viet moi will come to Malaysia.
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darkterror15
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Apr 3 2025, 06:45 PM
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u meant before 2019 tariff started US and vietnam no trade deficit?
but close what loop? mexico takde pun in the list?
US just whack everyone that having trade deficit with them, doesnt matter eu other 5 eyes or even japan korea taiwan.
they closing what loop by whacking their allies?
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Sichiri
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Apr 3 2025, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Apr 3 2025, 06:42 PM) The ones in stripe have the minimum 10%  wtf did Madagascar did to Trump??
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heaven
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Apr 3 2025, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Apr 3 2025, 06:47 PM) wtf did Madagascar did to Trump?? maybe penguins
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loserguy
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Apr 3 2025, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 3 2025, 06:45 PM) u meant before 2019 tariff started US and vietnam no trade deficit? but close what loop? mexico takde pun in the list? US just whack everyone that having trade deficit with them, doesnt matter eu other 5 eyes or even japan korea taiwan. they closing what loop by whacking their allies? This is a more inward turning US under Trump. In a way, Trump's US has abandoned South East Asia to China, hence the spheres of influence people keep bringing up. So buckle up, SEA, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, we have a new bossman in town. Bye bye big brother trump, hello xi da ge.
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Wedchar2912
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Apr 3 2025, 06:52 PM
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Hurray.... tariff Vietnam kau kau and indirectly kill China secondary kau...
who needs products from these countries... USA can source the goods elsewhere.... oh wait... lol
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damonlbs
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Apr 3 2025, 06:54 PM
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so everything just chop made in singapore now...?
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knwong
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Apr 3 2025, 06:54 PM
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If dependent fully on USA market = Move production to USA.
If doesn’t fully dependent on them = exit from USA market and switch to Europe, Africa, Asia
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Seawater
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Apr 3 2025, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(danabu @ Apr 3 2025, 06:27 PM) Actually which countries are among the lowest tariffs by US? Trusted friends category. UK, Australia, Singapore. All English speaking nations that promote English in schools. And South America. Because need to give them candy first to get their cheap eggs This post has been edited by Seawater: Apr 3 2025, 06:58 PM
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Juan86
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Apr 3 2025, 06:56 PM
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usa have tons of rubbish
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red_satu
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Apr 3 2025, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Apr 3 2025, 06:47 PM) wtf did Madagascar did to Trump?? Nothing. But American Exceptionalism logic is that it's a privilege to sell to the US, so every country is hit with minimum 10%.
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MGM
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Apr 3 2025, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Apr 3 2025, 06:54 PM) so everything just chop made in singapore now...? Made in JSSEZ, chopped in SG.
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letitsnow
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Apr 3 2025, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 3 2025, 07:05 PM) Made in JSSEZ, chopped in SG. more repackaging plants will open in jb. kahkahkah
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DarkNite
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Apr 3 2025, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 3 2025, 06:44 PM) Design in USA, component made in Johor by VN Moi, ship over to assemble in Sg by robots?
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ceras
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Apr 3 2025, 07:22 PM
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suddenly all Asean goods are made in Spore by default.
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JimbeamofNRT
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Apr 3 2025, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Apr 3 2025, 07:14 PM) Design in USA, component made in Johor by VN Moi, ship over to assemble in Sg by robots?  still more expensive than VN
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DarkNite
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Apr 3 2025, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 3 2025, 07:31 PM) still more expensive than VN VN 40%plus tariff?
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balambgarden
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Apr 3 2025, 07:37 PM
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brutal indeed
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Ayambetul
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Apr 3 2025, 07:39 PM
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Literally US is self suicide.
Trump want to create recession in US to reset the economy
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Hobbez
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Apr 3 2025, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Apr 3 2025, 06:47 PM) wtf did Madagascar did to Trump?? Madagascar is or shud be CCP frenly.
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Jigoku
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Apr 3 2025, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Apr 3 2025, 06:49 PM) This is a more inward turning US under Trump. In a way, Trump's US has abandoned South East Asia to China, hence the spheres of influence people keep bringing up. So buckle up, SEA, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, we have a new bossman in town. Bye bye big brother trump, hello xi da ge. Looks like we are on good track, DaGe also coming this month to solidify our ASEAN standing with them. Trump memang kek, this time United China Nation soon?
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kaizoku30
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Apr 3 2025, 08:17 PM
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Pack of lies, this suggest ccp use viet to circumvent US tariff. Ccp very alim one, no do dog shit work
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brian81st
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Apr 3 2025, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 3 2025, 07:45 PM) Madagascar is or shud be CCP frenly. what did cameroon 12, chad 12, nigeria 14, to have such low tariff? what did lesotho do to have 50%?
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Hobbez
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Apr 3 2025, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Apr 3 2025, 08:36 PM) what did cameroon 12, chad 12, nigeria 14, to have such low tariff? what did lesotho do to have 50%? Check Rwanda, sure high tariffs.
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h@ksam
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Apr 3 2025, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Apr 3 2025, 07:46 PM) United China Nation soon? 9 dash line how? bagi jer?
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DarkAeon
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Apr 3 2025, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(balambgarden @ Apr 3 2025, 07:37 PM) a lot of old allies of US are rethinking their relationship with US like canada's pm said, that close relationship we had is over
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brian81st
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Apr 3 2025, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 3 2025, 08:40 PM) Check Rwanda, sure high tariffs. err, rwanda is 10%, congo is 11% why rwanda sure high tariff? taiwan also 32% This post has been edited by brian81st: Apr 3 2025, 08:45 PM
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Hobbez
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Apr 3 2025, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Apr 3 2025, 08:43 PM) err, rwanda is 10%, congo is 11% why rwanda sure high tariff? u pull the number from air? taiwan also 32% US has deemed China the TOP global threat. So I guess they will refine their tariffs.
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fongsk
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Apr 3 2025, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 3 2025, 06:13 PM) TLDR: after first trump term tariff on china, china rejigged their supply chain to use vietnam laos cambodia etc as an intermediary country to bypass tariffs and export to USA. Now USA impose 50% tariffs on those countries to close this loophole. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgm8vxevyploMalaysia is the next ‘transit’. The US gov already know this with the solar cells which resulted in closure of the factories in Kulim. Next will be the gloves guys.
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Jigoku
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Apr 3 2025, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Apr 3 2025, 08:41 PM) 9 dash line how? bagi jer? Bagi la, Kan dia DaGe? Apa Kita boleh buat? Fight ke? Trump not gonna be our friend. Kita wait negotiations see Kita dapat trump approval tak la
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Wedchar2912
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Apr 3 2025, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Apr 3 2025, 08:43 PM) err, rwanda is 10%, congo is 11% why rwanda sure high tariff? taiwan also 32% taiwan should be tariffed... unless it spends basically all of its next export back in buying weapons and arms from USA....
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CivicTypeRFk8
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Apr 3 2025, 08:56 PM
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this clown just slap everything with 50% of the trade deficit
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Slowpokeking
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Apr 3 2025, 08:56 PM
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Nice, now these countries can dump all their products in other countries!
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xpole
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Apr 3 2025, 08:57 PM
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Ktards here need to read more beyond the CNN News, Fox News and other mainstream news.
It's involved with Geopolitics and others. Trump has his own plans.
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SUSlurkingaround
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Apr 3 2025, 08:58 PM
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. US-China trade war. Who will win, democratic USA or communist CCP China.? . Wumao vs AMDK. Who will win.?  .
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ShadowR1
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Apr 3 2025, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Apr 3 2025, 06:47 PM) wtf did Madagascar did to Trump?? Ccp friendly kot.
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Cubalagi
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Apr 3 2025, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(Efalex @ Apr 3 2025, 06:19 PM) Can use Singapore, 10% only nia... Not enough land, labour
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brian81st
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Apr 3 2025, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 3 2025, 08:46 PM) US has deemed China the TOP global threat. So I guess they will refine their tariffs.  This has nothing to do with china, it is just trade deficit. South Korea has higher tarif compare to Malaysia. S korea n Japan is like US vessel state. How to explain that? And Japan just announced that they would invest 100 b few weeks ago due to trump request. Really kena game
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Hobbez
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Apr 3 2025, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Apr 3 2025, 09:22 PM) This has nothing to do with china, it is just trade deficit. South Korea has higher tarif compare to Malaysia. S korea n Japan is like US vessel state. How to explain that? And Japan just announced that they would invest 100 b few weeks ago due to trump request. Really kena game Nothing to do with China? What do you not understand about TOP threat? It is not Russia, or Iran, or North Korea.
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Apr 3 2025, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Apr 3 2025, 09:22 PM) This has nothing to do with china, it is just trade deficit. South Korea has higher tarif compare to Malaysia. S korea n Japan is like US vessel state. How to explain that? And Japan just announced that they would invest 100 b few weeks ago due to trump request. Really kena game It’s just a starting point. Foresee tariffs on allies will be adjusted after some hard bargaining while rival states will be the last To be adjusted if at all This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Apr 3 2025, 09:38 PM
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brian81st
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Apr 3 2025, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 3 2025, 09:25 PM) Nothing to do with China? What do you not understand about TOP threat? It is not Russia, or Iran, or North Korea. i mean the current tariff is just to compensate trade deficit. US department send out the formula for calculating the tariff percentage. It is based to trade deficit with US and that particular country
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loserguy
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Apr 3 2025, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Apr 3 2025, 07:46 PM) Looks like we are on good track, DaGe also coming this month to solidify our ASEAN standing with them. Trump memang kek, this time United China Nation soon? Probably not United States of China lol. But probably trade volume is going to slowly go down for the US. And similar to the EU, once the trade volume goes down, the US will have a lesser say in things. Xi Da Ge say sit, Big Brother Trump say stand. Many SEA countries are going to sit.
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Apr 3 2025, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Apr 3 2025, 10:16 PM) Xi Da Ge say sit, Big Brother Trump say stand. Many SEA countries are going to sit. hobbez having panic attack
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new in IT
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Apr 3 2025, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Apr 3 2025, 07:44 PM) more viet moi will come to Malaysia. How come they luv MY Ah Beng more than wumao? Same tribe wut? Weird... This post has been edited by new in IT: Apr 3 2025, 10:24 PM
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vexus
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Apr 3 2025, 10:54 PM
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vietnam can continue with anti USA agenda
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ekoh
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Apr 3 2025, 11:06 PM
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south korea and japan both are one of the major FDI in vietnam and thailand, they are also in trouble with tariff
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Hobbez
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Apr 3 2025, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Apr 3 2025, 10:10 PM) i mean the current tariff is just to compensate trade deficit. US department send out the formula for calculating the tariff percentage. It is based to trade deficit with US and that particular country https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trumps-...ade-2025-04-03/Trump's global tariffs hurt China with 'all-round blockade'Summary: China is the economy most exposed to global demand shocks No place to hide for Chinese exporters offshoring production Growth, deflation risks mount in China Beijing faces pressure to unleash more stimulus This post has been edited by Hobbez: Apr 3 2025, 11:16 PM
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Wedchar2912
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Apr 3 2025, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Apr 3 2025, 10:10 PM) i mean the current tariff is just to compensate trade deficit. US department send out the formula for calculating the tariff percentage. It is based to trade deficit with US and that particular country I am just wondering why no media explain how GDP will be impacted in America in the meantime while they ramp up (or at least try to build the factories) to satisfy the american consumers. All the sweat shop products made in say Vietnam, will move back to America? if vietnam pays like 300 dollars per month for "slave"-like labor, how much more would a pair nike shoes cost when american fairly treated workers are being paid 20 to 30 bucks per hour.... hmmmm...
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Apr 3 2025, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 3 2025, 11:13 PM) https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trumps-...ade-2025-04-03/Trump's global tariffs hurt China with 'all-round blockade'Summary: China is the economy most exposed to global demand shocks No place to hide for Chinese exporters offshoring production Growth, deflation risks mount in China Beijing faces pressure to unleash more stimulus great link, should have expanded the whole article
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sportivo
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Apr 3 2025, 11:37 PM
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Other heavily taxed Asian countries can take advantage of Singapore 10% or Philippines 17% to bypass again 😉
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yakming
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Apr 3 2025, 11:41 PM
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when there is a will, there will be a way.
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Ttbatdtptsm
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Apr 4 2025, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(sportivo @ Apr 3 2025, 11:37 PM) Other heavily taxed Asian countries can take advantage of Singapore 10% or Philippines 17% to bypass again 😉 PH is politically unstable now .
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Singh_Kalan
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Apr 4 2025, 12:26 AM
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Hooray....Price is coming down. All products destined for US will be dumped in other countries.
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JohnL77
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Apr 4 2025, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 3 2025, 11:13 PM) https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trumps-...ade-2025-04-03/Trump's global tariffs hurt China with 'all-round blockade'Summary: China is the economy most exposed to global demand shocks No place to hide for Chinese exporters offshoring production Growth, deflation risks mount in China Beijing faces pressure to unleash more stimulus If China's domestic demand is poor, they will help SEA by buying all our stuff ke? Not to mention they are directly competing with us by flooding the market with products that are cheaper.
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brian81st
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Apr 4 2025, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 4 2025, 01:06 AM) If China's domestic demand is poor, they will help SEA by buying all our stuff ke? Not to mention they are directly competing with us by flooding the market with products that are cheaper. actually we export more to china than china export to malaysia. Malaysia’s trade maintained its upward trajectory, growing consistently since January 2024 and recording an 8.7% year-on-year (y-o-y) expansion in June 2024 to RM237.81 billion. Exports registered the third consecutive month of growth, increased by 1.7% to RM126.05 billion while imports rose 17.8% to RM111.76 billion. so china has a trade deficit with malaysia. if people want to complain, it should be the china citizen. https://www.matrade.gov.my/en/about-matrade...mance-june-2024
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JohnL77
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Apr 4 2025, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Apr 4 2025, 01:44 AM) actually we export more to china than china export to malaysia. Malaysia’s trade maintained its upward trajectory, growing consistently since January 2024 and recording an 8.7% year-on-year (y-o-y) expansion in June 2024 to RM237.81 billion. Exports registered the third consecutive month of growth, increased by 1.7% to RM126.05 billion while imports rose 17.8% to RM111.76 billion. so china has a trade deficit with malaysia. if people want to complain, it should be the china citizen. https://www.matrade.gov.my/en/about-matrade...mance-june-2024Are they going to buy more palm oil from us?
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red streak
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Apr 4 2025, 01:56 AM
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Open up more factories in Malaysia lah. 24% je. Cheap cheap. Then I can book more Vietmois after their economy goes up in flames.
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brian81st
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Apr 4 2025, 02:03 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 4 2025, 01:55 AM) Are they going to buy more palm oil from us? this question have to ask MITI. we can trade more with EU and diversify, if they dont kepo so much. EU also need a lot of palm oil, but choose to spread lies about palm oil to justify they purchase other oil option. EU reject indonesia /malaysia palm oil due to deforestation issue, but turns out it was a lie. Indonesia sue EU, and won the court case.
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JohnL77
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Apr 4 2025, 03:17 AM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 3 2025, 11:13 PM) https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trumps-...ade-2025-04-03/Trump's global tariffs hurt China with 'all-round blockade'Summary: China is the economy most exposed to global demand shocks No place to hide for Chinese exporters offshoring production Growth, deflation risks mount in China Beijing faces pressure to unleash more stimulus
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kamfoo
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Apr 4 2025, 03:39 AM
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pity vietnam choose usa side and betrayed again
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Hobbez
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Apr 4 2025, 05:04 AM
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https://www.freightwaves.com/news/22b-worth...-off-californiaThis gives an idea of the amount of stuff being shipped TO the US. Everyone wants to ship their goods to the US, especially......China. This post has been edited by Hobbez: Apr 4 2025, 05:05 AM
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spacelion
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Apr 4 2025, 05:59 AM
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Apr 3 2025, 06:47 PM) wtf did Madagascar did to Trump?? Madagascar exported USD82.8m of vanilla beans to US I'm pretty sure they don't have many import so their trade deficit very lopsided
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ben3003
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Apr 4 2025, 07:13 AM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 4 2025, 05:04 AM) https://www.freightwaves.com/news/22b-worth...-off-californiaThis gives an idea of the amount of stuff being shipped TO the US. Everyone wants to ship their goods to the US, especially......China.  us spending power highest in the world, everyone also wan ship there lo.
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cuddlybubblyteddy
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Apr 4 2025, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Apr 3 2025, 07:44 PM) Philippines the best now
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xerox900
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Apr 4 2025, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Apr 4 2025, 07:21 AM) If you increase Philippines trade deficit by exporting from there, their rate will increase too
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tokroni76
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Apr 4 2025, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(sportivo @ Apr 3 2025, 11:37 PM) Other heavily taxed Asian countries can take advantage of Singapore 10% or Philippines 17% to bypass again 😉 Singapore and Pinoy not stupid. They enjoying lower tariffs now because their countries not being used by CCP to bypass Trump specific tariffs to RedChina. Just salin baju to hoodwink Trump Like used whores, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia kena and CCP parasite will just abandon them and go to the next host
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keyser soze
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Apr 4 2025, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(new in IT @ Apr 3 2025, 10:24 PM) How come they luv MY Ah Beng more than wumao? Same tribe wut? Weird... because Ah Beng is more water fish
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Apr 4 2025, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Apr 3 2025, 09:22 PM) This has nothing to do with china, it is just trade deficit. South Korea has higher tarif compare to Malaysia. S korea n Japan is like US vessel state. How to explain that? And Japan just announced that they would invest 100 b few weeks ago due to trump request. Really kena game . AFAIK, Trump's main aim with the tariffs is for US companies to move their factories back to USA (eg from Mexico, Canada and East Asia) and for foreign companies like from Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and even CCP China to set up factories in USA, ... which would benefit American workers and America = MAGA, ie his aim is not to just reduce the trade deficits. .
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SUSlurkingaround
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Apr 4 2025, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(Jigoku @ Apr 3 2025, 07:46 PM) Looks like we are on good track, DaGe also coming this month to solidify our ASEAN standing with them. Trump memang kek, this time United China Nation soon? QUOTE(loserguy @ Apr 3 2025, 10:16 PM) Probably not United States of China lol. But probably trade volume is going to slowly go down for the US. And similar to the EU, once the trade volume goes down, the US will have a lesser say in things. Xi Da Ge say sit, Big Brother Trump say stand. Many SEA countries are going to sit. . AFAIK, the ASEAN market is much smaller than the US market, in term of US$ value. So, it will be more like ASEAN drowning together with Da Ge Xi if they decide to sit with CCP China. .
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SUSlurkingaround
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Apr 4 2025, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Apr 4 2025, 01:44 AM) actually we export more to china than china export to malaysia. Malaysia’s trade maintained its upward trajectory, growing consistently since January 2024 and recording an 8.7% year-on-year (y-o-y) expansion in June 2024 to RM237.81 billion. Exports registered the third consecutive month of growth, increased by 1.7% to RM126.05 billion while imports rose 17.8% to RM111.76 billion. so china has a trade deficit with malaysia. if people want to complain, it should be the china citizen. https://www.matrade.gov.my/en/about-matrade...mance-june-2024. https://tradingeconomics.com/malaysia/imports-by-countryhttps://tradingeconomics.com/malaysia/exports/chinaFor the whole of 2024, Malaysia has a trade deficit with China. .
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Apr 4 2025, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 4 2025, 05:04 AM) https://www.freightwaves.com/news/22b-worth...-off-californiaThis gives an idea of the amount of stuff being shipped TO the US. Everyone wants to ship their goods to the US, especially......China.  the loophole is gone, small packages coming from Shein and Temu no longer tax free now their CEO's scrambling to diversify biznes model
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SUSColinlim75
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Apr 4 2025, 01:41 PM
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nike share
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Jigoku
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Apr 4 2025, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 4 2025, 01:12 PM) . AFAIK, the ASEAN market is much smaller than the US market, in term of US$ value. So, it will be more like ASEAN drowning together with Da Ge Xi if they decide to sit with CCP China. . Hmm betul ke, will drown but from the look of it all of ASEAN beside Singapore are all looking towards DaGe Xi. If drown means all die except SG liao lo
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loserguy
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Apr 4 2025, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 4 2025, 01:12 PM) . AFAIK, the ASEAN market is much smaller than the US market, in term of US$ value. So, it will be more like ASEAN drowning together with Da Ge Xi if they decide to sit with CCP China. .  This is not about SEA choosing to side with China over the US. We have basically been abandoned. Better get used to it. LOL
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SUSM4A1
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Apr 4 2025, 02:42 PM
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US CITIZEN - you guys deserve the president choose......DONT COMPLAIN
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SUSlurkingaround
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Apr 4 2025, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(Colinlim75 @ Apr 4 2025, 01:41 PM) QUOTE(Jigoku @ Apr 4 2025, 02:14 PM) Hmm betul ke, will drown but from the look of it all of ASEAN beside Singapore are all looking towards DaGe Xi. If drown means all die except SG liao lo . @Jigoku , ....... What can Vietnam do in the above Nike case.? Sit with Da Da Ge or negotiate with Trump (eg for tariff exemption/reduction for the shoe sector).? ....... Eg should Vietnam now sell fake Nike shoes in CCP China.?  ....... US Customs impounds more than 14,000 fake Nike shoes from China - 10 Oct 2019 https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/10/us-cust...oes-from-china/ As for Nike, they should move some of their contract-factories from Vietnam to USA and MAGA. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Apr 4 2025, 05:08 PM
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brian81st
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Apr 4 2025, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Apr 4 2025, 01:27 PM) ok, noted, my mistake
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70U63
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Apr 4 2025, 04:13 PM
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Remember last time (trade war ver.1 and covid) AMDK laughing at CCP, said CCP gonna collapse and manufacturing jobs will move to Vietnam. Now, CCP lagi stronger than before.
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TSdiffyhelman2
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Apr 4 2025, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(70U63 @ Apr 4 2025, 04:13 PM) Remember last time (trade war ver.1 and covid) AMDK laughing at CCP, said CCP gonna collapse and manufacturing jobs will move to Vietnam.
Now, CCP lagi stronger than before.  but manufacturing jobs did move to vietnam....CCP themselves set up factories there....
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SUSlurkingaround
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Apr 4 2025, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(70U63 @ Apr 4 2025, 04:13 PM) Remember last time (trade war ver.1 and covid) AMDK laughing at CCP, said CCP gonna collapse and manufacturing jobs will move to Vietnam. Now, CCP lagi stronger than before.  . Trump's 1st term in 2017-2021 was mostly crippled by obstructionist Democrats, eg the fake Russiagate (collusion) = a weakened trade war ver.1 against CCP China. Now, Trump lagi stronger than before.  . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Apr 4 2025, 05:14 PM
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