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post Jan 6 2025, 06:07 PM, updated 12 months ago

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Hello, serious question here. My neighbor is a very aggressive person, since day one his trying to make things difficult and causing trouble for us, it all first started when my town council came to do the outside drain of our house, which is not our compound, and they cracked a very tiny part of his outside compound, so he told us to fix it immediately in an aggressive manner, but we told him it's not our business as he should complain to town council, but he just insisted that we fix it for him, as he demands it, but that is a long past issue.

Today, I went over to check on my house as it's still under renovation, and the side fencing is a bit crooked and looking like it's going to topple down, and he told me to fix it and I said I will, I'll get my workers to fix it tomorrow, but again as per his usual character, he insists us to do it now, I told him no, we will do it tomorrow because it's not possible to get it fix now. So, he came walking swiftly at me, and threatening to cause harm to me, saying sentence like I will break your face, you prick or something along the lines, my mum is with me so she can be witness to it.

I'm thinking of making a police report, is this going to be any useful ? Will the police be doing anything against him ? Looking for serious advice, thanks.
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post Jan 6 2025, 06:11 PM

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got CCTV proof?
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post Jan 6 2025, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Jan 6 2025, 06:11 PM)
got CCTV proof?
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No, but his house got 2-3 CCTV showing the side and front of the house, but it would be impossible to ask him to show us the CCTV footage of him threatening me ? That is assuming if he didn't already delete any footage of what happened earlier.

Other than his house's cctv, I only have my mum as my only witness, who was with me at the time.

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post Jan 6 2025, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Jan 6 2025, 06:12 PM)
No, but his house got 2-3 CCTV showing the side and front of the house, but it would be impossible to ask him to show us the CCTV footage of him threatening me ? That is assuming if he didn't already delete any footage of what happened earlier.

Other than his house's cctv, I only have my mum as my only witness, who was with me at the time.
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dont think any action will be taken against him, if you do a poloce report, its just in case anything happens to you or your family, he will be 1st suspect.
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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Jan 6 2025, 06:14 PM)
dont think any action will be taken against him, if you do a poloce report, its just in case anything happens to you or your family, he will be 1st suspect.
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So even if my mum as witness, or assuming I have any proof to prove that he threatened to cause harm to me, police also won't take any action ?
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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Jan 6 2025, 06:15 PM)
So even if my mum as witness, or assuming I have any proof to prove that he threatened to cause harm to me, police also won't take any action ?
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this is from chatgpt


In Malaysia, threatening someone is a criminal offense and can be prosecuted under the **Penal Code (Act 574)**. The specific provisions that may apply include:

### 1. **Criminal Intimidation (Section 503)**
This section defines criminal intimidation as threatening someone with:

- Injury to their person, reputation, or property.
- Injury to someone they care about.
- The intent to cause alarm or compel them to do something they are not legally obligated to do or to refrain from doing something they are legally entitled to do.

**Punishment:**
- **Section 506**:
- For general criminal intimidation: Up to 2 years of imprisonment, a fine, or both.
- If the threat is to cause death or grievous hurt: Up to 7 years of imprisonment, a fine, or both.

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### 2. **Extortion (Section 383)**
If threats are used to force someone to deliver property or valuable security, it may amount to extortion.

**Punishment:**
- **Section 384**: Imprisonment of up to 10 years, a fine, or whipping.

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### 3. **Assault or Use of Criminal Force (Section 351)**
If the threat involves physical intimidation or actions suggesting imminent harm, it could be considered an assault.

**Punishment:**
- **Section 352**: Imprisonment of up to 3 months, a fine of up to RM1,000, or both.

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### 4. **Defamation or Insults**
Threats that involve harm to reputation may fall under **Section 499** (defamation) or other related sections for insulting behavior.

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My colleagues says he will be asked to go police station to assist in investigation
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post Jan 6 2025, 06:22 PM

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if u fear for your life, yes, just make the report, police wont take any action tho, cuz nothing happened "yet"

but if say something happened to u and no witness, he is the prime suspect
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post Jan 6 2025, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Jan 6 2025, 06:21 PM)
this is from chatgpt
In Malaysia, threatening someone is a criminal offense and can be prosecuted under the **Penal Code (Act 574)**. The specific provisions that may apply include:

### 1. **Criminal Intimidation (Section 503)** 
This section defines criminal intimidation as threatening someone with:

- Injury to their person, reputation, or property.
- Injury to someone they care about.
- The intent to cause alarm or compel them to do something they are not legally obligated to do or to refrain from doing something they are legally entitled to do.

**Punishment:** 
- **Section 506**: 
  - For general criminal intimidation: Up to 2 years of imprisonment, a fine, or both. 
  - If the threat is to cause death or grievous hurt: Up to 7 years of imprisonment, a fine, or both.

---

### 2. **Extortion (Section 383)** 
If threats are used to force someone to deliver property or valuable security, it may amount to extortion.

**Punishment:** 
- **Section 384**: Imprisonment of up to 10 years, a fine, or whipping.

---

### 3. **Assault or Use of Criminal Force (Section 351)** 
If the threat involves physical intimidation or actions suggesting imminent harm, it could be considered an assault.

**Punishment:** 
- **Section 352**: Imprisonment of up to 3 months, a fine of up to RM1,000, or both.

---

### 4. **Defamation or Insults** 
Threats that involve harm to reputation may fall under **Section 499** (defamation) or other related sections for insulting behavior.

---

My colleagues says he will be asked to go police station to assist in investigation
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I see, thanks for the details. But I do not have any solid proof or footage to prove that he threatened me, the only proof I have is my mum as my witness as she was with me, so if I make a police report, do I have to bring my mum along and / or will the police most likely look him up ?

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QUOTE(jmas @ Jan 6 2025, 07:22 PM)
if u fear for your life, yes, just make the report, police wont take any action tho, cuz nothing happened "yet"

but if say something happened to u and no witness, he is the prime suspect
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So long as you can prove criminal intimidation / harassment, no need to wait also police will take action.
Heck even stalking is recognized as a crime already. As long as got some sort of proof should be enough for police to take action.

Even if they only brought the other person for questioning it can still serve as a deterrent in the future.
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post Jan 6 2025, 08:12 PM

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threatening is punishable and is a crime by law

don't need any proof also can make police report....evidence is to prosecute
so make a report for precaution so the cops know he threaten you before
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can make lipot just to safeguard yourself Incase anything happen........but doubt polis will do anything since no solid proof or injury.
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post Jan 6 2025, 08:23 PM

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This is your next door neighbour? You wan to continue living there?
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let him whack you and he will knows what consequences he will have
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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Jan 6 2025, 06:07 PM)
Hello, serious question here. My neighbor is a very aggressive person, since day one his trying to make things difficult and causing trouble for us, it all first started when my town council came to do the outside drain of our house, which is not our compound, and they cracked a very tiny part of his outside compound, so he told us to fix it immediately in an aggressive manner, but we told him it's not our business as he should complain to town council, but he just insisted that we fix it for him, as he demands it, but that is a long past issue.

Today, I went over to check on my house as it's still under renovation, and the side fencing is a bit crooked and looking like it's going to topple down, and he told me to fix it and I said I will, I'll get my workers to fix it tomorrow, but again as per his usual character, he insists us to do it now, I told him no, we will do it tomorrow because it's not possible to get it fix now. So, he came walking swiftly at me, and threatening to cause harm to me, saying sentence like I will break your face, you prick or something along the lines, my mum is with me so she can be witness to it.

I'm thinking of making a police report, is this going to be any useful ? Will the police be doing anything against him ? Looking for serious advice, thanks.
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Under Malaysian law, it is a crime to intimidate someone, and a serious offense to threaten someone with death.
However, in reality, the law is not always enforced, unless you are someone with money, fame, or power.

Speaking from my personal experience, I was threatened with death by a scam group, who sent words, images and voice messages as evidence. However, when my friend engaged with the police, their advice was to block them and ignore them. They gave us a lot funny interpretation of the law to save the hassle.
Around that time, there was a news report about someone threatening Anwar with death. The guy was caught and charged.

This is the reality of Malaysia.

My advice is to make a police report, so there's a record if anything bad happens.

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TS, can make police report for record. Example as below:

Laporan ugutan daripada jiran yang kemungkinan membahayakan, dan keselamatan ahli keluarga dibimbangkan.

Tujuan laporan untuk rekod. Sekian.

What your neighbour says is a kind of "ugutan".

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no cctv only can make police report as record

if next day u really kena tumbuk then police baru can do work

best is install CCTV asap..


QUOTE(lakini80 @ Jan 6 2025, 08:27 PM)
let him whack you and he will knows what consequences he will have
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side topic ..if that fellow record is already upcar ..whack kaw u the most go to jail for few weeks or month..then come out continue whack u

just like my waifu old house got 1 family hisap dadah and curi sini sana..get caught also go to jail few week ..come out continue curi

now that family still roaming around and treated jail like their 2nd home

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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 6 2025, 08:23 PM)
This is your next door neighbour? You wan to continue living there?
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Gonna be a long long struggle
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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Jan 6 2025, 06:15 PM)
So even if my mum as witness, or assuming I have any proof to prove that he threatened to cause harm to me, police also won't take any action ?
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Police will take action dont worry. They will do their work. You should proceed to lodge report
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Hi all, just thought I'd give an update here on the latest.

TLDR - I closed the case cited i and the neighbor is on good terms.

Long post ahead

So right after I made this thread, my dad was informed about this issue from my mum, and also the neighbor texted my dad, because he have both me and my dad's contact, so he texted him to say that tomorrow morning he will go and make a police report of his own, reasons being that I called him names - I called him an asshole over voice message back then when we were having arguments over MBJB issues.

So, my dad came back, and me and my parents went to lodge a police report, told the police everything that went down today, after the report, we were told to go to IPD, which is Johor bahru's police head office, we waited for about 30 minutes for the inspector to give our statements, in the end only me and the neighbor gave the statements, despite the inspector saying that he will want a statement from my mum as witness, but apparently that didn't happen.

After we both gave our statements, both of us were called to join the inspector for a talk, basically it's just to conclude and obtain a result of this report. First of all, he basically lied about never threatening me about causing harm and hurt, or to assault me, he refuse to admit it, and lied his way through. Anyway, obviously the inspector knew that his lying but he have to be on neutral grounds for obvious reasons. So, he gave him a warning and told him not to make troubles, and to not interrupt our renovation work or causing any unnecessary issue that may otherwise defer our renovation, or put our lives in danger.

At the end, my dad wanted him to apologize but I stopped him there because his apology doesn't mean anything anyway, so I just said it's fine, seems like a misunderstanding ( because his already lying ), so there's no point in going on with this report. Before I left, I asked the inspector if I could have his contact number, he said of course, and told me to contact him if there's anything else in the future, so I guess I can live with this result. Hopefully, after what happens today, my neighbor would learn to behave, because from the way he is, this isn't the first time his bullying people with these methods, more like his been doing this to many others as well, also not to mentioned he owes contractor money and block the contractor so that they can't reach him, I was told this by the contractor himself.

Anyway, I'm sure his going to be very very unhappy, and he did told my dad his going to proceed with other things that will make our lives difficult, for our side, we have many ways that we can utilize to deal with him, first of all his a doctor under Regency, secondly, his house back extension is done without permit, so these are few of the many things we can take action if we want to, but we are holding our breath to see what he will do next, then we will decide how to proceed.

P/S - I thought I'd add this in, he told the inspector that our side fencing, we are using steel + canvas, but actually we closed up by using canvas + wood to support the canvas, he told the inspector we used steel, and I was in shock, I said no, we have been using wood as a support all these while, there was never any steel, he probably said that to add in oil and fire because steel sounds more believable to his own benefit, at the end the inspector checked the photos, and confirmed it was wood and not steel, padam muka diri, he said he didn't see clearly and he doesn't know if it's wood or steel. tongue.gif

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Tldr TS kecut again.
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Just do it so he will stop his nonsense. If not, will get braver and you life will get worse.
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you can make a police report, it is after all, a report. A record of an event.

Now rather or not further investigation is warranted, that depends on what you had reported, and/or evidence that you have to present.

But, consider all the consequences, as you are residing there for the conceivable future.
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Explain nicely to him, say i don't know how to fix it and if i do it now, the result is no good. Else i ask my contractor to fix it nicely by tomorrow.
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We're only reading TS' narrative. Need to hear from the neighbour too.
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QUOTE(knwong @ Jan 6 2025, 08:23 PM)
This is your next door neighbour? You wan to continue living there?
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saw a trick from internet some time ago..
invite a bunch of "scary looking" biker group/ etc to your house for an "open house" and make sure he sees you interacting with them and attempt to intro them to your neighbour..he'll get that you are not one to mess with.
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QUOTE(anavrin @ Jan 7 2025, 09:14 AM)
saw a trick from internet some time ago..
invite a bunch of "scary looking" biker group/ etc to your house for an "open house" and make sure he sees you interacting with them and attempt to intro them to your neighbour..he'll get that you are not one to mess with.
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Lol. Must be an oversea advice. I believe you can rent such actors
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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Jan 6 2025, 06:15 PM)
So even if my mum as witness, or assuming I have any proof to prove that he threatened to cause harm to me, police also won't take any action ?
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next time when approaching him, turn on your voice/ video recorder. time to do that.

everything is about evidence these days.
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buy one of those recording device - glasses or turn on video recording on your HP, put it in your t-shirt pocket facing him when u going to see him or when he approach u later.
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No ajak him 1 by 1 ?

Anyway, living with a neighbor like that is no fun.
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isn't this case quite some time ago, ur house havent finish renovating?
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QUOTE(Sotsotzaii @ Jan 6 2025, 06:07 PM)
Hello, serious question here. My neighbor is a very aggressive person, since day one his trying to make things difficult and causing trouble for us, it all first started when my town council came to do the outside drain of our house, which is not our compound, and they cracked a very tiny part of his outside compound, so he told us to fix it immediately in an aggressive manner, but we told him it's not our business as he should complain to town council, but he just insisted that we fix it for him, as he demands it, but that is a long past issue.

Today, I went over to check on my house as it's still under renovation, and the side fencing is a bit crooked and looking like it's going to topple down, and he told me to fix it and I said I will, I'll get my workers to fix it tomorrow, but again as per his usual character, he insists us to do it now, I told him no, we will do it tomorrow because it's not possible to get it fix now. So, he came walking swiftly at me, and threatening to cause harm to me, saying sentence like I will break your face, you prick or something along the lines, my mum is with me so she can be witness to it.

I'm thinking of making a police report, is this going to be any useful ? Will the police be doing anything against him ? Looking for serious advice, thanks.
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Lack of prove or evidence la, on top of that who would show CCTV to get them self in trouble? ...... you can't just set your phone at the corner also, that's entrapment. Best you can do is video record during encounter. Or set up your own CCTV, cause when judge ask why you setup new cctv on your side you can say after first encounter you decide to setup CCTV not to entrap that guy but its for your own protection. Its different from hiding your phone at the corner then engage with him.

Whatever you do make sure you are not the one throwing punches. And if I where you I wouldn't even respond to the guy. Just set up cctv and ignore, the moment he make a move on anything deem threatening just call the police.
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How long tS lived there?

something triggered your neighbor to start WW3 ?

everyday you come back home will see this neighbor.

must be very stressful.
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Wait until your house finish renovation and your neighbor park his car at your front gate, these kind of people very hard to talk reason with them and they will lie all the way

If worse a fight broke out, you dont hit him 1st and only defend your self. if you dont fight back you can charge him for assault if you fight back then the case will be under you 2 fighting and you also kena

when this neighbor come find trouble with you always ask your family members to take video of the incident, anything happen just appoint a lawyer and dont let polis deal with it only
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QUOTE(darkwaka @ Jan 8 2025, 12:53 PM)
Wait until your house finish renovation and your neighbor park his car at your front gate, these kind of people very hard to talk reason with them and they will lie all the way

If worse a fight broke out, you dont hit him 1st and only defend your self. if you dont fight back you can charge him for assault if you fight back then the case will be under you 2 fighting and you also kena

when this neighbor come find trouble with you always ask your family members to take video of the incident, anything happen just appoint a lawyer and dont let polis deal with it only
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Thanks for the advice, yeah I will not do anything to him and if he assault me all the better, I'll let him do that and then get tested for bruises in hospital, and make a police report. Other than that from now on whenever I go to my house and check up, if I see him there I'll turn on my voice recorder / camera beforehand just in case.

 

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