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post Dec 25 2024, 07:37 PM, updated 12 months ago

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According to some "Experts", Malaysia telco routers all come with government spyware, so they can spy on your internet activities, true or not?

TM, Digi, Celcom, Maxis, all got spyware inside?

Meaning we should buy 3rd party routers ka? laugh.gif

But if you have done nothing wrong, why afraid Gov spying? Right? tongue.gif


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post Dec 25 2024, 07:38 PM

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phone how? no way own router
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:39 PM

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They spy isp side la
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:40 PM

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Lol

ISP has your records regardless of what type of routers you use.

It depends on how well you secure and cover your tracks on the net.

Why? Sked kena raid?
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:41 PM

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If I say , Yes .. what you going to do ?

If I say , No .. what you going to do ?
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Dec 25 2024, 07:38 PM)
phone how? no way own router
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The spyware in the telco app maybe?

Digi, Celcom, Maxis, etc. laugh.gif

But if they really want to kacao you, I think they can just ask ISP to single out your account and monitor you kao kao, right?

Even America do this when FBI request from their ISP.
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Dec 25 2024, 07:40 PM)
Lol

ISP has your records regardless of what type of routers you use.

It depends on how well you secure and cover your tracks on the net.

Why? Sked kena raid?
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Sked political agenda.

We banyak kutuk krajan, sometimes no censor words, sked they offended and target you.


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instead of trying to see who is surfing "dirty" stuff....it's easier to find those that doesn't laugh.gif

the person who's responsible on checking each history needs to cuci mata everyday back home laugh.gif

if of course this is true
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Dec 25 2024, 07:40 PM)
Lol

ISP has your records regardless of what type of routers you use.

It depends on how well you secure and cover your tracks on the net.

Why? Sked kena raid?
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use VPN mah settle lor???
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Dec 25 2024, 07:37 PM)
According to some "Experts", Malaysia telco routers all come with government spyware, so they can spy on your internet activities, true or not?

TM, Digi, Celcom, Maxis, all got spyware inside?

Meaning we should buy 3rd party routers ka?  laugh.gif

But if you have done nothing wrong, why afraid Gov spying? Right?  tongue.gif
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They argue that they need access to remotely troubleshoot your connection just in case it goes down. The reasoning make sense but can be abused for other things.

Why the public don't ask back, why we pay so much for our internet subscription only to lose out privacy?

If people are going to give away their privacy and information for advertising, shouldn't the service be free/subsidized like what those alphabet companies with deep pockets are offering? Why still need to pay full rate?
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Satori 14118a @ Dec 25 2024, 07:39 PM)
They spy isp side la
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Yup, they spy at ISP side.

All of the customers internet traffic goes though a deep packet inspection firewall. It had a set of rules to find search words like child porn, bomb, etc. And that internet account gets flagged by authorities for further monitoring.
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:46 PM

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ASSpert ada lar. U think u will be save when using their ISP.

VPN is just tipu sense of so called can't be detect. Lel
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:47 PM

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every connection that you made will be recoded by isp la(for few days). only the content will be gibberish thanks to encryption.
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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Dec 25 2024, 07:37 PM)
According to some "Experts", Malaysia telco routers all come with government spyware, so they can spy on your internet activities, true or not?

TM, Digi, Celcom, Maxis, all got spyware inside?

Meaning we should buy 3rd party routers ka?  laugh.gif

But if you have done nothing wrong, why afraid Gov spying? Right?  tongue.gif
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Will you able to stay free from porn?
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 25 2024, 07:43 PM)
use VPN mah settle lor???
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VPN also not 100% safe.

Topkek i dunno why some of you are getting paranoid, ada buat salah ke? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 25 2024, 07:43 PM)
use VPN mah settle lor???
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Globalist elites one step ahead of you. They own the big VPN providers as well. They own everything that can be bought with money which they themselves print out of thin air.

Kape Technologies buys ExpressVPN for almost $1 billion
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/kape-technol...dollar1-billion

3 companies control many big-name VPNs: What you need to know
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-soft...u-need-to-know/

Who Owns Your VPN? 105 VPNs Run by 24 Companies - VPNpro
https://vpnpro.com/blog/hidden-vpn-owners-u...s-23-companies/

The ultimate owner of all your ISPs and VPNs could be BlackRock or Vanguard. laugh.gif

Not kidding. Even our local ISPs and telcos among their major shareholders are..


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post Dec 25 2024, 07:52 PM

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also stop sharing sharing your personal internet service with your neighbor. you never know what kind of activity they did might be against the law.
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The Video VPN Companies Don't Want You to See



Just like the lucrative insurance companies...they have tons of money to buy review sites to give them top ratings and also access to top Tier-1 hosting ISP providers which are then again believed to be owned by state agencies/governments.
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 25 2024, 07:52 PM)
also stop sharing sharing your personal internet service with your neighbor. you never know what kind of activity they did might be against the law.
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Those pedo got caught recently some of the videos I say used external WiFi adapter to receive internet rather than using own internet line. They could be using their neighbors internet access to surf CP contents.
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Even your phone also can do that la

Even you open in aeroplane mode google know where have you been
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post Dec 25 2024, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 25 2024, 07:52 PM)
also stop sharing sharing your personal internet service with your neighbor. you never know what kind of activity they did might be against the law.
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Yup, your neighbours illegal activities gets flagged to your personal internet service account.

I notice some people rent their home internet service to their neighbours. This is a dangerous thing to do.
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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Dec 25 2024, 07:55 PM)
Yup, your neighbours illegal activities gets flagged to your personal internet service account.

I notice some people rent their home internet service to their neighbours. This is a dangerous thing to do.
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We got forumers here who hosts torrent flux servers from their apartment homes also provide such wireless internet services to their neighbors.

Also got many silly VPN users thinking that setting up VPS is a good idea when your connecting server IP = VPS gateway IP to external sites.

Silly if you ask me because authorities will just find out the timestamp of your activities & VPN IP, ask your ISP who is the one who connected to this VPS IP at this time.

Voila you're busted.

Good VPN got routing and rotational gateway IP. It is not the same IP as the one you connect to just like private/CGNAT IPs. Meaning the gateway IP the illegal website logs is not the one you connect to your VPN.

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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Dec 25 2024, 07:46 PM)
Yup, they spy at ISP side.

All of the customers internet traffic goes though a deep packet inspection firewall. It had a set of rules to find search words like child porn, bomb, etc. And that internet account gets flagged by authorities for further monitoring.
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Could be abused by political agendas, later become like China, arrest activists and dissidents.

Malaysia become so komunis. sweat.gif
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post Dec 25 2024, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Dec 25 2024, 08:12 PM)
Could be abused by political agendas, later become like China, arrest activists and dissidents.

Malaysia become so komunis.  sweat.gif
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China did the correct thing banning foreign VPNs. If the idea was bad, India and Pakistan wouldn't have banned VPNs as well just in recent years.

That goes to show China did the right thing.
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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 25 2024, 07:43 PM)
use VPN mah settle lor???
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VPN companies also keep the logs subject to local law enforcement requests.
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Sunshape dah menggeletar ke tu?
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all have backdoor
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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Dec 25 2024, 07:42 PM)
Sked political agenda.

We banyak kutuk krajan, sometimes no censor words, sked they offended and target you.
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i think u overestimated urself

nobody cares about u
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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Dec 25 2024, 08:26 PM)
all have backdoor
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Do you have many questions about humans now?

Devil and Saint is the same entity?

What is the meaning of life?

What is actually fiat money printed from thin air and how it gets its value?

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Tplink pun ada la
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Do you have many questions about humans now?
As an AI language model, I don't possess consciousness or curiosity, so I don't have questions or desires. However, I can provide information on common questions humans have about themselves. For instance, Scientific American has explored "20 Big Questions about the Future of Humanity," addressing topics like the potential for human life beyond Earth and the possibility of understanding consciousness.
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Devil and Saint is the same entity?
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Christian teachings generally depict the Devil as a fallen angel who rebelled against God and was cast out of heaven. This narrative is supported by interpretations of biblical passages, such as Isaiah 14:12, which describes the fall of Lucifer, a figure often equated with Satan.
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In contrast, saints are individuals who have led exemplary lives of faith and virtue, often canonized by the Church for their piety and contributions to the faith. They are venerated and serve as models for Christian living.

The notion that the Devil and saints are the same entity is not supported by mainstream Christian doctrine. However, some philosophical or mystical perspectives might explore the idea of duality and the interconnectedness of good and evil, suggesting that these forces are two aspects of a single reality. For instance, certain interpretations propose that both God and Satan are manifestations of the self, reflecting internal moral struggles.
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These interpretations are not widely accepted within traditional religious frameworks but can be found in various philosophical or esoteric discussions.

In summary, within conventional religious teachings, the Devil and saints are distinct and opposing entities, representing the dichotomy of evil and good, respectively.


What is the meaning of life?
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Human Flourishing: Aristotle introduced the concept of eudaimonia, often translated as human flourishing or well-being, achieved through virtuous living and realizing one's potential.
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Psychological Insights:

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Components of Meaning: Research indicates that a meaningful life often encompasses three elements: significance (feeling that one's life matters), coherence (understanding one's life), and purpose (having clear goals and direction).
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Cultural Concepts:

Ikigai: A Japanese philosophy meaning "reason for being," ikigai involves finding joy through purposeful living, balancing what one loves, what one is good at, what the world needs, and what one can be paid for.
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Personal Interpretation:

Ultimately, the meaning of life is subjective and varies among individuals. Some find purpose in personal achievements, relationships, or contributing to society, while others seek understanding through spiritual or philosophical exploration. Reflecting on personal values, passions, and the impact one wishes to have can guide the discovery of individual meaning.

What is actually fiat money printed from thin air and how it gets its value?

Fiat money is a type of currency that a government declares as legal tender but is not backed by a physical commodity like gold or silver. Its value stems from the public's trust in the issuing government and its acceptance in the economy for transactions and payment of debts.
INVESTOPEDIA

The term "fiat" originates from Latin, meaning "let it be done," signifying that the currency's value is established by government decree. Unlike commodity money, which has intrinsic value due to its material (e.g., gold coins), fiat money holds value because people have confidence that others will accept it in exchange for goods and services.
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Central banks can create fiat money without the need for physical reserves, a process sometimes described as "printing money out of thin air." This involves the central bank purchasing financial assets or lending money to financial institutions, thereby increasing the money supply. While this provides flexibility in managing economic conditions, it also requires careful regulation to prevent issues like inflation or hyperinflation, which can erode the currency's value.
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In summary, fiat money derives its value from government authority and public trust, rather than intrinsic worth or commodity backing. Its acceptance as a medium of exchange and its regulation by monetary authorities are crucial to maintaining its value in the economy.

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Malaysia gov can spy from ISP level, don't need to spy at your router la


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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Dec 25 2024, 08:46 PM)
Malaysia gov can spy from ISP level, don't need to spy at your router la
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It becomes more effective when the CPE and user's OS has backdoors in them.

How does the casino house maintain the advantage over its players/customers? Why the globalist deep state and governments are buying up every public infra to maintain control over them?

Food supply sources, farms, all the undersea cables, data centres, payment channels, the authority to print money and even healthcare?
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Dec 25 2024, 08:29 PM)
i think u overestimated urself

nobody cares about u
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Then how come on news always got poor "netizens" arrested for comments on facebook/twitter/tiktok?

You confirm or not? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Dec 25 2024, 08:46 PM)
Malaysia gov can spy from ISP level, don't need to spy at your router la
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Then Malaysians zero privacy?

How to protect privacy?

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QUOTE(ukiya21 @ Dec 25 2024, 08:31 PM)
Tplink pun ada la
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That why is US government is going to ban TP Link devices from their networks soon.

Tp Link devices was found to be sending data back to China, etc.

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Why hack router when they can control ISP
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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Dec 25 2024, 09:12 PM)
That why is US government is going to ban TP Link devices from their networks soon.

Tp Link devices was found to be sending data back to China, etc.
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Ping cn server for firmware update kot
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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Dec 25 2024, 08:59 PM)
Then how come on news always got poor "netizens" arrested for comments on facebook/twitter/tiktok?

You confirm or not?  sweat.gif
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thy got arrested bcs ppl lipoted

no bcs the telco shared whatever u did on the internet with MCMC/police

unless what u r doing is a threat to the country
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It's router made in China
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Dec 25 2024, 09:16 PM)
thy got arrested bcs ppl lipoted

no bcs the telco shared whatever u did on the internet with MCMC/police

unless what u r doing is a threat to the country
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People report, the police go ask ISP, then they give your details, same thing right?

Many arrested because kritik krajan or VIP, I read their komen also not really that bad, how?

They can change the law however they like, tomorrow arrest you for just saying PMX bad at his job, how?

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QUOTE(HasukiiXrd @ Dec 25 2024, 09:17 PM)
It's router made in China
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But most of the pedos and illegal users of explicit contents are caught are in Western countries.

How come China who made those routers with backdoors aren't as aggressive?
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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Dec 25 2024, 09:25 PM)
People report, the police go ask ISP, then they give your details, same thing right?

Many arrested because kritik krajan or VIP, I read their komen also not really that bad, how?

They can change the law however they like, tomorrow arrest you for just saying PMX bad at his job, how?

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thn consider urself very lucky to be arrested

generally nobody gives a fuck what u said on the internet cuz there are many ppl who are also saying the same thing

u think mcmc/police so free to arrest everyone?
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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Dec 25 2024, 09:25 PM)
People report, the police go ask ISP, then they give your details, same thing right?

Many arrested because kritik krajan or VIP, I read their komen also not really that bad, how?

They can change the law however they like, tomorrow arrest you for just saying PMX bad at his job, how?

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The method used are documented all over in Youtube.

Most are from betrayal of one sided party. ISPs and socmed companies are less likely to reveal unless high profile cases involving global terrorists and paid a large sums of money.

Small fries and RM1 purchases is a waste of time.

That is while golden rule is trust no one one public forums/discussion boards or socmed unless you know the other person directly on the other end.

Name, picture, language, and age all all fake, that's how scam continues to happen on the internet. Why X came out with verified blue ticks on accounts.
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Anyone can claim to be Elon Musk on socmed accounts with his picture and moniker name. Even on this forum.

Unless you have this blue tick beside your name.

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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Dec 25 2024, 07:42 PM)
Sked political agenda.

We banyak kutuk krajan, sometimes no censor words, sked they offended and target you.
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Deswai /k ask u bela kucing.

Kucing kata jangan, then jangan la
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Many here overreacting.
Nobody interedted in your daily internet log la. It is when got serious issue, like terrorists threat, or cyber crime or pedo ring then the motivation in strong for them to deep dive the logs in isp side.
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Dec 25 2024, 09:16 PM)
thy got arrested bcs ppl lipoted

no bcs the telco shared whatever u did on the internet with MCMC/police

unless what u r doing is a threat to the country
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But the news I think 🤔 didn't mention someone reported
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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Dec 25 2024, 10:38 PM)
But the news I think 🤔 didn't mention someone reported
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Of course not, if mention next time the mouse will become smarter after learning its lesson. doh.gif

If sifu teach you all his tricks he still can be your sifu meh? He close shop already. shakehead.gif
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so canggih yet still cannot find Jho Low


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QUOTE(wertty @ Dec 25 2024, 10:56 PM)
so canggih yet still cannot find Jho Low
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Not cannot but don't want. icon_idea.gif

Today you cannot travel to any country without proper documentation and biometric verification. How he can still evade for so many years and still have enough of funds to to access for survival.
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Btw , if I am the admin of a router, and everyone in the house connect thru it, how can I see what other ppl r doing etc?

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bye bye Facebook, TikTok and Instagram

Deadline stays: Govt sticks to Jan 1, 2025 date for social media licensing, says Fahmi
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Dec 25 2024, 07:40 PM)
Lol

ISP has your records regardless of what type of routers you use.

It depends on how well you secure and cover your tracks on the net.

Why? Sked kena raid?
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TS telor bergetar already... must have view and downloaded some child contents.

Jengjengjeng~ good luck TS bye.gif
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Dec 25 2024, 11:06 PM)
Btw , if I am the admin of a router, and everyone in the house connect thru it, how can I see what other ppl r doing etc?
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You need to setup a MiTM(Main in middle) server in between the router and users to analyze all unencrypted packets that travel in between.

In the case of large scale ISP operation, they have a DPI firewall in between the concentrator(ISP router) and gateway switches to flag anything they want to analyze and log them.
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Dec 25 2024, 11:14 PM)
You need to setup a MiTM(Main in middle) server in between the router and users to analyze all unencrypted packets that travel in between.

In the case of large scale ISP operation, they have a DPI firewall in between the concentrator(ISP router) and gateway switches to flag anything they want to analyze and log them.
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If I use encrypted app, they can still see my activities?


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post Dec 25 2024, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Dec 25 2024, 11:21 PM)
If I use encrypted app, they can still see my activities?
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If properly encrypted no leaks impossible unless the VPN/socmed operator on the other end expose you to enforcements.

That is why TRUST is most important between you and the other end of the encrypted tunneling.

Party A<----Encrypted Tunneling--->Party B

If compromised, very high chance is either party betrayed the other.
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post Dec 26 2024, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Dec 25 2024, 11:24 PM)
If properly encrypted no leaks impossible unless the VPN/socmed operator on the other end expose you to enforcements.

That is why TRUST is most important between you and the other end of the encrypted tunneling.

Party A<----Encrypted Tunneling--->Party B

If compromised, very high chance is either party betrayed the other.
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Phew, good to hear.

I have said a lot of bad things about Krajan and their VIP friends, but I use encrypted whatsapp.

I hope my dissident and activist friends don't expose me. laugh.gif
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post Dec 26 2024, 12:23 AM

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who cares? All ISPs spying on subscribers.
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post Dec 26 2024, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Dec 26 2024, 12:18 AM)
Phew, good to hear.

I have said a lot of bad things about Krajan and their VIP friends, but I use encrypted whatsapp.

I hope my dissident and activist friends don't expose me.  laugh.gif
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Well, the upcoming regulations will change how these social medias operate. If the gomen suspect you to have some illegal stuffs going on, they can ask for information, because if these social medias don’t comply, it’ll affect their licenses. I am not sure how far the MCMC will go, but never trust anyone, especially the politicians.
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semua brg ada, just that we all choose to ignore it. its call a log. your car,TV, your phones all electronic connected to battery mostly ada. Yes even when you BT you ingat you no use TM dns they tak tahu meh
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post Dec 26 2024, 08:02 AM

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Most spyware is social media and messagijg apps, whatsapp, fb, twitter, tektok

Pls dont use all of them
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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Dec 25 2024, 07:37 PM)
According to some "Experts", Malaysia telco routers all come with government spyware, so they can spy on your internet activities, true or not?

TM, Digi, Celcom, Maxis, all got spyware inside?

Meaning we should buy 3rd party routers ka?  laugh.gif

But if you have done nothing wrong, why afraid Gov spying? Right?  tongue.gif
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why need to allow govt or outside ppl spy on our privacy even though we do nothing wrong.. privacy is privacy... not allow others to spy or be nosy about it... mega_shok.gif
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they are not spyware

they are security appliances : network tap, firewall, proxy, dns security and unified threat protection solutions brows.gif

anyway the most intrusive is actually your social apps.... laugh.gif google, youtube, whatsapp, facebook, tiktok , xhs , x

damn even pxrnhxb also did not save my preferences but facebook know what I bought when mentioned in whatsapp msg, holy shit !
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If say China USA Israel UK, our doors all open like prostitute leg open for all the foreign spy agencies to monitor/change identity.



Kan dulu we have a CIA agent tall omputeh assasin operative? Sudah hilang, agent 007 escaped. Then Mossad have our orang kito become informants.





Then we also had a spy Queen with the pistol hnngggh but she passed away and no more news on our local MI:999.



Again back to topic, our legs are spread open toes touching the ears and those agents already masukkke ketaq and embedded inside.
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Socmed companies will ask for high price from government to disclose their data. Unless you're high profile fugitive like Jho Low or Talibun leader, worth paying just for small fry to ask them to disclose the data?

Those companies pledged to be secure to convince the peasants that they honor their privacy. Sikit-2 expose reputation also go bad just to catch small fry?


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yes, many countries also track, not just bolehland.

Internet traffic is so easy to track. People forget that even if use VPN, VPN may not indicate where the data is from but traffic from VPN still need to be transmitted back to phone/computer...
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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Dec 26 2024, 07:40 AM)
Well, the upcoming regulations will change how these social medias operate. If the gomen suspect you to have some illegal stuffs going on, they can ask for information, because if these social medias don’t comply, it’ll affect their licenses. I am not sure how far the MCMC will go, but never trust anyone, especially the politicians.
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Aiyoyo, how then? Any app that they cannot touch?


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Not really spyware, it's the ISP. When you using they services, yes they know which website you been accessing into. Similar like in company, the IT department know which website you've been accessing to when you using the company network like wifi or lan.


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Is same thing

 

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