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post Nov 26 2024, 11:50 PM

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According to Meta the one that actually pushing bots and fake accounts and trying to influence the social media political discussion is the government themselves

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 5 — Meta, the parent company behind Facebook and Instagram, said in a recent report it had identified and removed over 600 accounts across all its social network platforms for violating the policy against "coordinated inauthentic behaviour”, with most of them alleged to be part of a "troll farm” to corrupt or manipulate public discourse using fake accounts

You can read it here…

https://www.malaymail.com/amp/news/malaysia...to-police/21241

You didn’t realise because these ‘bots’ didn’t posting negative news about your favourite political party.

In the end how on earth you talking about democracy when yourself supporting the use of government agencies to eliminate any ‘negative’ comments that not favourable to your favourite political party? Sounds like what Putin will do actually
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post Nov 27 2024, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Nov 26 2024, 11:50 PM)
According to Meta the one that actually pushing bots and fake accounts and trying to influence the social media political discussion is the government themselves

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 5 — Meta, the parent company behind Facebook and Instagram, said in a recent report it had identified and removed over 600 accounts across all its social network platforms for violating the policy against "coordinated inauthentic behaviour”, with most of them alleged to be part of a "troll farm” to corrupt or manipulate public discourse using fake accounts

You can read it here…

https://www.malaymail.com/amp/news/malaysia...to-police/21241

You didn’t realise because these ‘bots’ didn’t posting negative news about your favourite political party.

In the end how on earth you talking about democracy when yourself supporting the use of government agencies to eliminate any ‘negative’ comments that not favourable to your favourite political party? Sounds like what Putin will do actually
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Actually that news was in August 2022, which had the previous government in power. Not saying the current is clean but I did try to check Meta's transparency report
https://transparency.meta.com/en-gb/metasec...hreat-reporting
Downloading each quarter pdf from 2024 Q2 (latest available now) back to 2022, I only found keyword "Malaysia" hit in 2022 Q2 report, which says the exact same thing as the news you posted. That means the CIB/fake trolls were caught in Apr-Jun 2022...

Now the most recent thing I could find about Meta actioning against Malaysian-related content was this 2023 report: https://transparency.meta.com/reports/conte...ons/country/MY/
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Jul 2023 - Dec 2023 Update
We restricted access in Malaysia to over 4,700 items reported by the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC), including items pertaining to illegal gambling content in violation of the Common Gaming Houses Act and Betting Act, scams, regulated goods, hate speech based on religion in violation of Penal Code Section 298A, criticism of the government, and racially or religiously divisive content and bullying content in violation of CMA Sections 233(1)(a) and 211. We also restricted access in Malaysia to over 470 items reported by Government Agencies such as the Malaysia Ministry of Health and Commercial Crime Investigation Department for alleged violation of local laws related to regulated goods and fraud and scams. The remaining items were restricted for alleged violations of other local laws.
Since there was no hit in the CIB report, that means the 2023 action was not found by Meta to be CIB, but rather real(?**) humans violating policies/Malaysian law by spreading hate speech.

**Now we all know Meta ain't the best in dealing with these because all our reports apparently never yield any result and everyone is clean, you're just sensitive... But I just want to point out there's dirt on all sides.

Yes, the current government may seem hati tisu as they pressed Meta to clean up in 2023, as above. But with this thread, I can understand their frustration as you can see that one of these criticisms is fake and it's targeting them. I'd say the government is looking at the problem from the wrong angle: the point is to silence the fake voices, not the criticisms.
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post Nov 27 2024, 02:05 AM

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Psyops vs psyops. Nobody really knows who’s the actor behind those comments. Can be from kini as well cuz they have incentive to change current gov.

This post has been edited by culvers: Nov 27 2024, 02:16 AM
TSExoflare
post Nov 27 2024, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Nov 26 2024, 11:50 PM)
According to Meta the one that actually pushing bots and fake accounts and trying to influence the social media political discussion is the government themselves

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 5 — Meta, the parent company behind Facebook and Instagram, said in a recent report it had identified and removed over 600 accounts across all its social network platforms for violating the policy against "coordinated inauthentic behaviour”, with most of them alleged to be part of a "troll farm” to corrupt or manipulate public discourse using fake accounts

You can read it here…

https://www.malaymail.com/amp/news/malaysia...to-police/21241

You didn’t realise because these ‘bots’ didn’t posting negative news about your favourite political party.

In the end how on earth you talking about democracy when yourself supporting the use of government agencies to eliminate any ‘negative’ comments that not favourable to your favourite political party? Sounds like what Putin will do actually
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Your argument is plausible, but ultimately if you inspect it, you realize that it doesn't make sense.

First of all, you assume that the reason I didn't respond is because I have a favorite political party. The problem is, you have no idea what my favorite political party is. Didn’t catch that did you?

You didn't bother to check, and perhaps you have a motive in claiming that the reason I'm opposing this is purely because I disagree with the current action.

My opposing this does not involve opposing democracy. Because what I'm trying to do is to stop massive groups of AI bots from swaying the narrative in general. And it doesn't matter whether they are for BN, for DAP, for PH, or for PAS/Bersatu because it is wrong either way but your low quality critical thinking skills, it seems, would have us believe that opposing any threat to Malaysia is an attempt at ‘curtailing democracy’.

I’m not surprised that Malaysia is a weak nation given people like you.

This in turn makes me wonder if you are associated with the current manipulation operation or if you are just an overly woke yapper who likes to think that he is plucked out from the matrix and is now super special. Because he has watched a few dramas and can now say that there is no good or evil.

Well, stop watching The Dark Knight multiple times and come back to reality because the current situation is materially different. And regardless of the political party that is in charge of this, or if not political party then individual or organization, it is something that needs to be stopped.

Stop downplaying things just because you're too tuned in to being a member of the woke class, please. Reality is now in session and the Malaysian people are being manipulated.


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post Nov 27 2024, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Nov 27 2024, 01:46 AM)
Actually that news was in August 2022, which had the previous government in power. Not saying the current is clean but I did try to check Meta's transparency report
https://transparency.meta.com/en-gb/metasec...hreat-reporting
Downloading each quarter pdf from 2024 Q2 (latest available now) back to 2022, I only found keyword "Malaysia" hit in 2022 Q2 report, which says the exact same thing as the news you posted. That means the CIB/fake trolls were caught in Apr-Jun 2022...

Now the most recent thing I could find about Meta actioning against Malaysian-related content was this 2023 report: https://transparency.meta.com/reports/conte...ons/country/MY/
Since there was no hit in the CIB report, that means the 2023 action was not found by Meta to be CIB, but rather real(?**) humans violating policies/Malaysian law by spreading hate speech.

**Now we all know Meta ain't the best in dealing with these because all our reports apparently never yield any result and everyone is clean, you're just sensitive... But I just want to point out there's dirt on all sides.

Yes, the current government may seem hati tisu as they pressed Meta to clean up in 2023, as above. But with this thread, I can understand their frustration as you can see that one of these criticisms is fake and it's targeting them. I'd say the government is looking at the problem from the wrong angle: the point is to silence the fake voices, not the criticisms.
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I'm not completely sure where you're trying to go with your comment and frankly I don’t understand most of it in the way that it is written, but thanks for the effort in reading through all of the Meta threat reports.

To focus us back, yes, the main point is this.

Legitimate criticism of the government is quite possible and in fact should be encouraged and I engage in a fair bit of it. However, there is an agency or entity or group of disgruntled individuals who are going out on Malaysian social media and using fake voices in order to discredit the government and doing so on a mass scale that showcases that it is organized and also is fake in that the names and identities of the individuals involved are likely fabricated.

This is not legitimate criticism. It is large scale deception and it doesn’t matter which political party or entity it comes from - it should be stopped.

P.S. Legitimate criticism is not particularly hard to do so given the wonderful activities that our our great leader has recently been taking part in and his refusal to step in in the constellation of contentious matters that have come up under his administration, namely sockgate, Israelgate, sijilgate, and now signboardgate.

Not too different from how wars have come up during the Biden and Harris administration and one of the reasons that I recently made this video:

The Disturbing Similarities of Anwar Ibrahim and Kamala Harris
https://youtu.be/oswxzyrdlvw


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