Two men and one woman were participating in a whitewater rafting activity on the Kampar River this afternoon when they were swept away by the strong currents of the river, resulting in the tragic death of all three.



Source: https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ding-programme/

This post has been edited by Sunshape: Nov 15 2024, 11:06 PM

Which sohai company orgnised at that location
Pls publish

Monsoon season better becareful. Kepala air can come anytime.

Who the fuck so smart go rafting during raining season?

I believe they will never disclose.

They never think of safety reason.

Sudah tahu hujung tahun musim tengkujuh semua jadi bodoh tak tahu monsoon season.

This night already full moon still not learning anything. Kasi saman

November and December better go hotel.

rain season, go river.
city folk with no knowledge?

This post has been edited by Phoenix_KL: Nov 15 2024, 11:09 PM

"They were part of a group of JKR staff who were participating in a team-building programme at the river."

" ...said the group, which consisted of 22 participants from the Seberang Perai Tengah and Langkawi branches of the public works department (JKR)..."



This post has been edited by ZeroSOFInfinity: Nov 15 2024, 11:12 PM

A lot of Malaysians join these activities, will assume

1. the organisers must have thought of safety, if not won't organise one
2. the white water rafting operator experienced, sure no problem one

ah, didn't notice

This post has been edited by Sunshape: Nov 15 2024, 11:14 PM

The organiser company will never find work again. Will have to drive Grab to survive.

Class I Rapids - Moving Water Over Shallow Riverbed
Class II Rapids - Waves that Make Fun Splashes
Class III Rapids - Fun Waves with Thrill Factor, Requiring Some Technical Skill
Class IV Rapids - Whitewater with Obstacles and More Technical Skills
Class V Rapids - Rapids with major Obstacles That are Difficult to Avoid
Class VI Rapids - Unnavigable Whitewater Rapids

those familiar with the rapids n rivers (esp this time of the year) ought to know how a Class II can anytime turn to a V or VI

RIP

Risk takers.
The risk we took was calculated, but boy we were bad at math.

good info

I think it will fall under the camp owner responsibility to advise if they should do the rafting or not due to the weather. in this case they failed to give proper advise and caused death.

End of the year. Christmas rafting.

RIP.

Water surge.

Three drown after water surge on Sg Kampar hits white-water rafters.

IPOH: Three individuals lost their lives after drowning during a water rafting activity at Sungai Kampar on Friday.

The Perak Fire and Rescue director Sayani Saidon said that the department received a call at 5.56pm on Friday (Nov 15).

"The victims were part of a team-building program involving 22 participants from Central Seberang Perai (SPT), Penang and Langkawi Public Works Department, along with six guides who went down to the river area starting at 3.30pm.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...e-water-rafters

Bunch of sei sohai

The Malaysian Public Works Department (JKR) is a federal government department that's responsible for the construction and maintenance of public infrastructure in Malaysia:

Mampus.

Family gonna sue employer ie. JKR & Msia Govt.

Taxpayers money gone.

Dedication to the team building exercise

Heads gonna roll

I realized Malaysians don't think much about what could go wrong. They just assumed everyone will do their job well. Everyone will make sure everything is safe. But being in Malaysia for so long they still don't understand how Malaysia works.

good news

no safety jacket during the course?

The eye opening thing I experienced is one dive operator nonchalantly said a few customers/divers go missing every year in Pulau Lang Tengah under his care. That was in the early 2000s.

i guess they signed the consent form before partaking in such activity n briefed abt the risk involved..

slightly off-topic.

please advise your malay female colleagues/family/friends to take off their tudung or wear proper swimming headgear while playing in the water, especially active water like water rafting.

having cloth covering your face during water rafting is like waterboarding. yes, people died during water rafting due to the tudung, not entirely the main cause, but certainly suffocates and drowns faster.

More like think can blame and sue kao the operator. Same shit as motobodo mentality on the road. Don't account for person injured or dead when shit goes wrong.

Certain jobs, especially dealing with forces of nature, cannot have 100% responsibility on operator. Mother nature is just that powerful and unpredictable.

I've always wondered about this safety aspect but not in my place to discuss with them.

Not just that but certain attire naturally increases risk, even non religious ones.

rip
pls sue shit company

This post has been edited by byt112000: Nov 16 2024, 01:24 AM

I am definitely on the opposite side of Malaysian thinking then.
But if one guy hop into the boat and be like SpongeBob get in meme I will probably go in.
But which big brain see that tide and rain and still go in? I am happy I’m with shut in colleagues. Worst they can think of is go hiking.

This post has been edited by GHBZDK: Nov 16 2024, 01:25 AM

stick to indoor activities

Yes they will ask you to sign the consent form, if dont sign cant join. I have done water rafting at this exact river before. It can be super dangerous when raining.

They probably killed by logs or got smashed against rocks.
Kepala Air can destroy bridges in some areas

There's always smart people going to waterfall during monsoon season.

This waterfall took away many lives.

rip

Should have plan the activity in kkb. No kepala air since it's controlled by the dam gate.

It's like kepala air

The river calm but due to heavy rain upstream suddenly the river turn choppy

I also experienced it before

Luckily my organizer quickly got us to safety

Aurat how?

Gopeng got one famous operator for white water rafting.

rip

No wearing life jacket?

Majority are dumbass

I for one always assume the worst. Malaysians give me the feeling that they are shit. They won’t do things well.

My company did the same team building exercise there 6 weeks ago. It was fun.

Innalillah wa Innalillahi rajiun to those perished.

the boss : justasplanned.jpg

JKR wanna be flying tiger squad ka? Jiwa kena ragut

Not suprised . Many goes unqualifiled to open and manage camps at all. They either dont have the certification , or tidak-apa on the equipment quality and safety protocols. The act of allowing such activitity to proceed despite the seasonal danger already a red flag.

Only when authority swoop in after tragedy,only discovered how shitty they are. but too late coz half a dozen life lost.

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Nov 16 2024, 07:14 AM

Ayam do teambuilding at this place jan 2024
Also play white water rafting
This sungai damn nice and clean
Seriously when check video, the water damn violence

Hard to say, even during Oct also daily rain at Nine Emperor festival. August time chinese ghost month also pantang..

They will be replaced in office tomorrow

That's why we always hold team building in the plant. If we need engineer in the line easy just call them to work.

- Ms Tan
HR training admin finance manager

Rip. Ladies and gentlemen, pls keep speculation to minimal.

That company HR

The company was planning to cut down the number of their staff and HR had a wonderful idea...

Makes no difference when you have to pay pensions...

My company said company activity not covered by insurance

Owai

Jkr dont have direct hr. Most likely project team, gov style of work, if the dept still got leftover budget, they need to spend it by EOY.

Last time many years ago i try at gopeng 1. Need sign waiver form d. So water rafting company wont be responsible for any incident but own insurance not sure la… mayb still can claim as accident d.

This post has been edited by FreedomSeeker: Nov 16 2024, 08:50 AM

I joined water rafting in KK once, and I thought it was a very dangerous sport.

I would rather sunbath in swimming pool

It's their responsibility though. They should know when the water rised high enough to be dangerous. It's called professionalism

I have company that " love " to do this kind of stupid high risk teambuilding activity.

Pity for those family victim

I think I insurance maybe has clauses for risky activities

white water 404. it looks more like teh tarik

you berani persoal hukum agama?

Sometimes I think we are trying to hard to be like ang moh.

Ang moh likes this sort of dangerous activities.

Why lar makan kenyang, no trouble, go and and find trouble

U don't say bruh

Ok, bonus pool lesser headcount to share

Honestly I don't understand with companies that always organise high risk teambuilding games for their staffs.

Some of the companies never asked about each staffs health conditions before proceed to book the teambuilding activities.

The most frustrating part is they force the staffs to join. If you don't want to join, need to provide proof of documents that u can't join. Other than that, u will get a risk of not getting good increment and bonus if u don't want to join the team building.

It happened to me in the previous company that I worked.

This post has been edited by xpole: Nov 16 2024, 09:38 AM

organiser sohai. lately the rain is pretty heavy still wanna do this

Maybe the guide knows it is dangerous to do it.

But his boss say "kalau takda worang turun sungai, company mana nak dapat duit? Siapa bayar gaji lu? Boleh tahan ka kalau 2 bulan musim hujan tada gaji?"

Same situation here. Senior mgr said all staff must participate. Compulsory. Paintbor & zipline were 2 of the activities.

Bali’s rafting scene under scrutiny after tourist deaths

Indonesian island’s regulation of rafting is facing criticism after the deaths of five tourists since November 2021.

But when the group stopped for a break at a riverside kiosk, the river rose dramatically. A female vendor advised the two rafting guides to abort the trip but the advice was ignored, according to a member of the search party that followed.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/10/ba...n-rafting-scene

The best teambuilding to build and maintain relationship = Makan2 dinner in hotel or anywhere and do live sharing....

got wear floating life jacket?

Not sure. The news didn't mention.

The one that need to take the Beufort train? Did that twice. One week after my 2nd trip, one angmoh couple drowned there.

hahah this. If got leftover they will be deemed given too much. Next year cut budget. lol

Malaysia boleh style.

Better still is to scrap all these activities and return the budget allocated as bonusses to every staff. With the money staff can go thani at mamak or do own teambuilding activities.

LoL

If the co is still insist to do team-building, why don't just do dinner as everyone loves to eat.

But must have coffee (unlimited refill)

Nearly every monsoon season also got this kind of news.
Last time is landslide killed camper.
Local tourists swept away by surging river & died after staying at chalet built near river.


P/S: But some people give excuses that's it bcoz school holidays & they blamed the gov instead.

This post has been edited by ApocalypseSoon: Nov 16 2024, 10:59 AM

Masalah sendiri and still blame people

The risk of that happening is relatively low, but when it happens the impact to families will be terrible.

So have to balance YOLO vs YODO (you only die once) too.

i once ask my hr to do a poll, whether staffs wan nice annual dinner + lucky draw OR gurentied cash + simple lunch (still must have some form of gathering to get everyone together gether kan).

guess which won. by a landslide

Did they use a travel agency to organize the event ? Some HR would do from A to Z and some would pass the job to an agency to handle. If the agency did not advise them about weather condition then it is the agency's fault. They know better but they are greedy. They just want business. If the company insisted on going then it is the company's fault.

I wonder if the family members will sue the JKR or the agency?

The event company that organized this shd be sued. They onli want profit and not do a risk assessment before letting amateurs in the river.

yes that one.

One girl fell off from the raft and hit her leg, was writhing in pain and got carried back into raft. She cried all the way until the raft reached the downstream shore, killjoy. Everyone in the team no mood.

The swift current and the rocks beneath... trust me, even good swimmer cannot fight the current. Not to mention the rip current at certain depression in the river.

This post has been edited by Chrono-Trigger: Nov 16 2024, 11:37 AM

Looks like it was organised internally

Aiyaaa..TeamBuilding at Hatyai lah.

Activity organiser don't know is dangerous? Or just want profits only

Life jacket won't save you if got hit by kepala air carrying logs and debris hitting you against rocks.

Even internally also, they will usually get an event company to do team building activities as HR, as usual useless.

If got 200K budget, just buy a Tesla and give it as a gift to lucky draw winner. If the winner does not wanna keep and resell to other people.

Some more they are from JKR, yet they zero awareness about danger during rainy season. Mati katak for stupid team building