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autodriver
post Dec 10 2024, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Nov 5 2024, 07:37 PM)
Every month or so, they take an MC without fail unless it falls on a weekend I suppose.

Tak kira whether got important task or not, just whack an MC.

On the MC, the reason is stated as stomach pain, gastroenteritis or period paid.

Is this an acceptable reason? Can a superior do anything about it at all?
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I don't think the company can take any discipline action on this because all staffs are entitle sick leave. But one thing company can do is when the time of performance review those employees always on MC they will not get a good rating and this gonna affect their bonus and increment. For those who wanna said I am cruel please think twice, if you MC suddenly then the work will pass on to your colleague who did not get extra paid to do your job. If your job do not need others to assist the problem still exist, this will cause delay of work and company loss.

Labour law allow 14 days of sick leave, it doesn't mean we have to take it all.
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post Dec 20 2024, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Dec 10 2024, 09:17 AM)
I don't think the company can take any discipline action on this because all staffs are entitle sick leave. But one thing company can do is when the time of performance review those employees always on MC they will not get a good rating and this gonna affect their bonus and increment. For those who wanna said I am cruel please think twice, if you MC suddenly then the work will pass on to your colleague who did not get extra paid to do your job. If your job do not need others to assist the problem still exist, this will cause delay of work and company loss.

Labour law allow 14 days of sick leave, it doesn't mean we have to take it all.
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Using mc rating, are employees not allowed to be sick ?
Good luck to you on never getting influenza a and covid, that would be 8 days of MC.
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post Dec 24 2024, 11:18 PM

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If the employee is still delivering their work, not getting into any trouble, I wouldn't really bother with the MC.
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post Dec 25 2024, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Nov 5 2024, 07:37 PM)
Every month or so, they take an MC without fail unless it falls on a weekend I suppose.

Tak kira whether got important task or not, just whack an MC.

On the MC, the reason is stated as stomach pain, gastroenteritis or period paid.

Is this an acceptable reason? Can a superior do anything about it at all?
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I have a female staff in her 20s, takes mc first day of her menses. She told me the cramp will be bad on the first day, and I can relate when I see my wife at times. But her productivity during working days are good, so I don't see a problem here.

As for others, as long it's within their allocation, I don't think it's an issue as well, and we have strict instructions not to base our appraisal on the number of MCs taken.

This post has been edited by tampinmy: Dec 25 2024, 09:24 AM
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post Dec 26 2024, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(godyuz95 @ Dec 20 2024, 06:29 PM)
Using mc rating, are employees not allowed to be sick ?
Good luck to you on never getting influenza a and covid, that would be 8 days of MC.
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If it were a real sick of course it is acceptable, but in reality many employees abuse MC. Imagine a staff every month sick and the sick always on Monday or Friday (if Sat is off day), it is very clear the employee is taking extended holiday. It is quite common many companies are busy on Monday, if someone suddenly absence from work then the workload pass to the colleague who did not get extra paid to backup. Few times a year is fine but some can take all the sick leave entitlement of 14 days. None of the company hope to hire a staff who do not know how to take care of health and always in sick.

As you defend my statement I guess you are one of the person always take MC in the company. Btw it is not good to curse person as it always get karma as return.
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post Dec 26 2024, 08:45 AM

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I think interviewer also need to do questionnaire on interviewee healthy condition when in interview session. Or else it would be end up like TS colleague.
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post Dec 26 2024, 08:49 AM

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unless u suspect the doc got foul play la.. else no point la.. its an official rest letter.. though you can try to come out with a counter-plan to reward non-MC..
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QUOTE(tampinmy @ Dec 25 2024, 09:24 AM)
I have a female staff in her 20s, takes mc first day of her menses. She told me the cramp will be bad on the first day, and I can relate when I see my wife at times. But her productivity during working days are good, so I don't see a problem here.

As for others, as long it's within their allocation, I don't think it's an issue as well, and we have strict instructions not to base our appraisal on the number of MCs taken.
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If women take MC everyone because of cramp and pain on first day of menses I think it is acceptable. But what is women take this menses cramp every month once but it is always fall on day before or after holiday or weekend? We knew that is actually an excuse to get extended leave. And also there are men who always sick, and the sick always happen 1 day after salary issue, or sick before or after the holiday or weekend.

MC cannot be official rating during performance review, but it always be the informal evaluation during performance review.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Nov 5 2024, 07:37 PM)
Every month or so, they take an MC without fail unless it falls on a weekend I suppose.

Tak kira whether got important task or not, just whack an MC.

On the MC, the reason is stated as stomach pain, gastroenteritis or period paid.

Is this an acceptable reason? Can a superior do anything about it at all?
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overseas, you can take medical leave without the need to provide medical certs. you should be thankful employees take the trouble to spend their money and time to go see doctor just to produce a paper to you when they're sick.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Nov 5 2024, 07:37 PM)
Every month or so, they take an MC without fail unless it falls on a weekend I suppose.

Tak kira whether got important task or not, just whack an MC.

On the MC, the reason is stated as stomach pain, gastroenteritis or period paid.

Is this an acceptable reason? Can a superior do anything about it at all?
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I know an employee who takes 30 days MC due to backpain

he's been doing that for past 3 years.

he is young guy about 27yo

one day boss decided to retrench him because whenever she needs him, he is not around.
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post Feb 26 2025, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Dec 26 2024, 08:01 AM)
If it were a real sick of course it is acceptable, but in reality many employees abuse MC. Imagine a staff every month sick and the sick always on Monday or Friday (if Sat is off day), it is very clear the employee is taking extended holiday. It is quite common many companies are busy on Monday, if someone suddenly absence from work then the workload pass to the colleague who did not get extra paid to backup. Few times a year is fine but some can take all the sick leave entitlement of 14 days. None of the company hope to hire a staff who do not know how to take care of health and always in sick.

As you defend my statement I guess you are one of the person always take MC in the company. Btw it is not good to curse person as it always get karma as return.
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No joke, i knew ppl that plan their MC like planning AL holiday
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post Feb 27 2025, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(ragk @ Feb 26 2025, 11:31 AM)
No joke, i knew ppl that plan their MC like planning AL holiday
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My friend she always use MC at least 10-14 days a year. The way she MC is always on MONDAY or FRIDAY, or sometimes MC on the day she came back from travel which she took it as extended leave. She said she dont care how others think about her and she don't give a shxt if her colleagues need to take up her job during her MC.
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post Feb 27 2025, 08:45 AM

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my company give reward to reduce MC


MYR 2000 Maximum 1 day absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 1500 Maximum 3 days absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 1000 Maximum 6 days absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 500 Maximum 9 days absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 0 10 days or more absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave

ask your boss do the same

This post has been edited by soul333: Feb 27 2025, 08:57 AM
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post Feb 27 2025, 08:59 AM

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No.

They misuse MC for.

This happen when comoany too much those kind of MC people

The hirer is blind or inexperiences
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post Feb 27 2025, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(InitialB @ Feb 27 2025, 08:59 AM)
No.

They misuse MC for.

This happen when comoany too much those kind of MC people

The hirer is blind or inexperiences
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How to know at the point of hiring?
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post Feb 27 2025, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 27 2025, 09:08 AM)
How to know at the point of hiring?
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Question

And do due diligence check before hire la

Noob hirer will ask this question : "How to know at the point of hiring?"

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post Mar 13 2025, 09:04 AM

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definitely ok
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post Mar 18 2025, 11:03 AM

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Is the MC valid? Did u call the clinic to verify?

This post has been edited by amboi_asamboi: Mar 18 2025, 11:03 AM
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post Jul 2 2025, 08:29 AM

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Genuine sick?
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post Jul 2 2025, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(soul333 @ Feb 27 2025, 08:45 AM)
my company give reward to reduce MC
MYR 2000        Maximum 1 day absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 1500        Maximum 3 days absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 1000        Maximum 6 days absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 500          Maximum 9 days absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 0              10 days or more absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave

ask your boss do the same
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hey! what about No MC (0 day) thru out the year? what is the reward for this?

what is your company name? I should join your company lar

P/S: I have been 0 day MC in my prev company for 8 years, even my ex-manager, ex TL also ask me how I maintain my health

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