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post Nov 3 2024, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Nov 2 2024, 06:53 PM)
How much did you consume RON95 per month?  Total family consumption, may I know?
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I pump one full tank RM105 in a CR-V only once a month coz I work from home
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post Nov 3 2024, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Nov 2 2024, 06:23 PM)
Thank you for your heartfelt letter. I appreciate your candid expression of concerns regarding our government’s approach and the implications it has for the T15 community.

I want to acknowledge the struggles and sacrifices you and many others have made to achieve your current status. Your contributions to the economy, particularly in terms of tax revenue, are invaluable, and it is essential for me as Prime Minister to ensure that every segment of society feels heard and respected.

I understand that the rhetoric around subsidies and economic policy may have created a narrative that seems dismissive of your contributions. It was never my intention to paint anyone as a "parasite." I recognize that the T15 plays a critical role in our economy and contributes significantly to the nation’s welfare. Your support during the reform era has been pivotal, and I value that deeply.

Regarding the issues raised about the current economic policies, I hear your frustrations, especially concerning the implementation of the PADU database and its effectiveness. It’s crucial for us to learn from such initiatives and ensure that they serve the intended purpose of supporting the most vulnerable while being transparent and efficient.

I am committed to addressing corruption and holding all accountable, regardless of their position. The perception of inconsistency in our efforts is troubling, and I will work to ensure that our actions align more closely with our rhetoric. The fight against corruption is ongoing, and I recognize the importance of maintaining the trust of all citizens, including the T15.

I value the expertise and resources that the T15 community brings to our society. It is my hope that we can work together towards solutions that foster economic growth and social equity. I welcome ongoing dialogue as we navigate these complex issues, and I am committed to ensuring that your voices are part of the conversation moving forward.

Thank you for your candid feedback and for your continued support of the reform agenda.
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Thank you for your candid feedback and for your continued support of the reform agenda.
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post Nov 3 2024, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Nov 3 2024, 12:08 PM)
I pump one full tank RM105 in a CR-V only once a month coz I work from home
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post Nov 3 2024, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Nov 3 2024, 12:08 PM)
I pump one full tank RM105 in a CR-V only once a month coz I work from home
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So ur usage is v v v low. And based on T15/T10 numbers, I would really love to see how much savings will this fuel rationlisation saves. I suppose there are more savings from Smuggling activities…well, let’s see.
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post Nov 3 2024, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(pipedream @ Nov 3 2024, 11:13 AM)
He sounded arrogant yes but is he wrong though?

But he did ticked me off saying his life very valuable because doctor. Please lah you can only live very comfortably if u went into private practice so his skills aren’t serving the normal rakyats but his fellow t15s. Kanasai.
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kek that guy hates capitalism because he is a tongkat champion, you can see him talking about how capitalism is bad in every single thread.

why are you taking him seriously hahahaha.

in any case, whatever accusations thrown at the author should not undermine his arguments should you find his points logical.

so whether he committed sexual harassments or not is irrelevant to the validity of the arguments he made.
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post Nov 3 2024, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Nov 3 2024, 12:19 PM)
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Nice try bro, my original post was saying T15 do take fuel subsidy lol and I said the original quote in first post was half wrong because of that.
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post Nov 3 2024, 05:29 PM

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u think i care 15% of meleisia vote?
i want 100% of b40 vote ni

janji apple kita dapat subsidi
tongkat tak boleh hilang!!!
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post Nov 3 2024, 05:39 PM

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Every country u go now also the top earners gets tax

Whats the big deal?

Keep crying like a bitch can help?

Stfu and earn more money then cut back on less starbucks only-

Itu pun mau kecoh. As if la t15 cares about public hospitals and that minimal subsidy.

Whats rm 200?

Funny as heck-
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post Nov 3 2024, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(chinteck79 @ Nov 3 2024, 10:55 AM)
i didn't buy packet oil, i didn't buy white sugar. lhdn come knocking my door for 6 consecutive years even though i got pay income tax penalizing me for small mistakes. 1 time not even my mistake with all epf and sspn receipt submitted the pegawai didn't saw it. after submit appeal the pegawai become totally uncontactable
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PH is going down hill with PMx penalising those who supported him before thru thick & thin.
Even if he can gain additional M support maybe to 40% ... the non portion will drop from 90% to 40%?

A good strategy or tragedy?
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Nov 3 2024, 07:02 PM)
PH is going down hill with PMx penalising those who supported him before thru thick & thin.
Even if he can gain additional M support maybe to 40% ... the non portion will drop from 90% to 40%?

A good strategy or tragedy?
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Nah- the chinese always look at big picture-

There r no alternatives and merit at the other side good enough to sway votes for now.

Not everyone can be bought with allah / syariah law and rm 100 pocket money
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post Nov 3 2024, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Nov 2 2024, 11:30 PM)
Well said.
I'm sitting right in the border of T15 and M85. Our combined household salary is 13k, but we could only afford Ron95. Ron97 is a luxury still, so its unfair to presume some of the T15 like myself as 'mahakaya'. I agree with the writer stating that the statement made by pmx was really hurtful. We worked hard to escape poverty and finally achieve financial freedom, but then somehow we're labelled as takigg advantage of the subsidies? How about the goverment plug the crack in the subsidies policies first, or enforce on subsidy smuggling activities before putting the blame at us.
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the thing which is wrong is the term "mahakaya" that has been wrongly put in.
hmm, subsidy is to help the poor. But if you can afford it, why not pay the ori price? This is like you are still taking parent's allowance to support your life while you are earning 13k/m

This post has been edited by gundamsp01: Nov 3 2024, 07:23 PM
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post Nov 3 2024, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Nov 2 2024, 06:05 PM)
Mr Prime Minister! We, the T15, are not your enemies!
October 30, 2024

Ahmad Farouk Musa || 30 October 2024

Dear Mr Prime Minister, we are writing this piece as your friend. As your friend who struggled for you during the time of Reformasi. As your friend who defended you during all the allegations against you. As your friend who fought ‘tooth and nail’ to bring down the greatest kleptocrat the world has ever known. As your friend who believed in a new dawn of greater democracy and freedom once we bring down the previous corrupt regime.

Unfortunately, as leader of the country, your priorities seem misplaced. We feel that instead of training your guns against the kleptocrats—including your right-hand man who was freed on DNAA despite a prima facie case against him—you are making an enemy out of us, the so-called T15. You disdainfully tag us as the “Mahakaya”. As if we are sucking the wealth of this country for our own benefit. You berated us, almost every day, for allegedly benefiting from the government’s subsidies. You forgot that we constitute that segment of the society who contributes the maximum in term of taxes. According to statistics, in 2022 alone, we the T15, contributed almost 80% of income taxes. Yet you castigate us as if we are the parasites and blood-suckers of the community.

Many of us were not born with a silver spoon in our mouth. We worked very hard for many years to reach this position in the society. We burnt the midnight oil and excelled academically to attain this status. We led a life full of sacrifice and self-immolation. Yet, in your war against corruption, you directed your gun against us. You made an enemy out of us. In your dreams, you imagined us gobbling up the benefits meant for the poor and the needy, the B40 of the community. But maybe you didn’t realise, or maybe in fact, it was a strategy by your Economic Minister to rationalise (read: cut) subsidy, such that you have to build a narrative that lures people to believe that there is one segment of the community who is selfishly and shamelessly reaping the benefit of the subsidies.

You built a perfect narrative so that people will naively accept the rationalisation of subsidies. But in reality, we don’t consume subsidised cooking oil, eggs, or rice. Instead, we purchase premium cooking oil, grade A fortified eggs and Basmathi rice. Not because we want to show off our wealth, but simply because we can afford such luxuries. The narrative that we grab subsidised items meant for B40 is a false narrative. Similarly, many of us in the T15 use RON97 petrol, not the subsidised RON95. Simply because we drive continental cars. Not to flaunt our wealth, but simply because these continental cars are much safer on our roads. Just imagine spending many years training as a surgeon only to be killed in a mere road traffic accident. Isn’t it a loss not only to the family but also a loss to the community and country?

Furthermore, you made it so difficult for those who deserve to get back their money, the diesel cash subsidy, from the Budi Madani that many of them simply gave up. Until today, no one knows the rationale behind that database PADU, which was suggested and proactively promoted by your Economic Minister. Touted as a comprehensive system that would supposedly assist the government in targeted subsidy, it finally ended up as a white elephant. How much money was wasted in building that database? Let’s not downplay it: the development of the PADU hub drained a whopping 85.27 million ringgit from the national coffers! That’s not a small amount for an unproven database. Until today, we have yet to see how this database will benefit the people, barring the developer.

In fact, this so-called rationalisation of subsidy and all the economic policies of your Economic Minister is straight from the textbooks of the neoliberal economic system—an economic philosophy that emphasizes free trade, deregulation, and a reduction in government spending. It is a laissez-faire system that advocates minimal government interference in the economic issues of the people in an attempt to purportedly stimulate economic growth.

What you and your Economic Minister have been doing is similar to the ideas suggested by the IMF (International Monetary Fund) and the World Bank, the champions of neoliberalism. We have seen the negative impact of this neoliberal agenda on our health sector. Apart from education, the health sector is supposed to be a top priority for a government. The free market approach to public services such as health and education is fundamentally misguided. Indeed, unlike other industries, public services are not meant to be profitable sectors. We feel that your neoliberal strategy will exacerbate inequality, such that the poor will never get medical treatment and education at par with the rich.

Why then are we in the T15 segment of the society concerned about this neoliberal agenda promoted by your government? Admittedly, we can afford the best medical care and also fund our children’s education in private institutions. The answer is simple: we, the T15, care for the society. We contribute 26% of our yearly salaries to income tax. We want this money to be spent wisely for the rakyat, for better healthcare and education. We don’t mind if the B40 does not even contribute a single cent to the coffers of the Inland Revenues Board (IRB); we know that they are poor and do not reach the threshold to pay any taxes.

But we were very dismayed and disgusted when individuals who owed millions to the IRB were rewarded with lofty positions such as Director of MATRADE (Malaysia External Trade Development Corporation). Retrospectively, the greatest kleptocrat was given more than a 50% discount on fine and jail term. Of course, you can hide behind the Royal decree. But some discerning people could clearly see what was happening behind the scene. This made all your diatribe against corruption ring hollow. You have a misplaced sense of priority. You launched a tirade against imaginary kleptocrats but ignored the real plunderers in front of your very eyes.

We are sorry if all these words sound very harsh. However, we hope you realise that the derogatory term ‘Mahakaya’ used against us was indeed very bitter and painful to swallow. We want you, including your arrogant and self-obsessed Economic Minister, to understand that we contributed the most financially to the country. Additionally, many of us in the T15 gave back to the society in terms of our expertise, which is intangible. Hence, do not make enemies out of us. Don’t forget that we were your staunch supporters in the reform agenda for the betterment of the country, although many of us are now left disillusioned.

Dr Ahmad Farouk Musa holds a PhD in Surgery from Monash University Australia and Masters of Medicine in Surgery from Universiti Sains Malaysia. He is also a doctoral candidate in Islamic Studies at Universiti Muhammadiyah Malaysia.

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I fully agree 👍🏼.

Earn more then taxes side already paid up. Why still want to find other ways to penalize people who earn more?

People earn more cause more capable, invested more time and work hard study hard … there are efforts put in to earn more.

People who earn more contribute more to society but never ask for return …

Overly help the so called poor will encourage them to be poor … and some people may find being poor have more perks therefore gov building generation of garbage and eventually need to rely on foreign professionals and workers to support the economy…
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QUOTE(badmilk @ Nov 3 2024, 05:39 PM)
Every country u go now also the top earners gets tax

Whats the big deal?

Keep crying like a bitch can help?

Stfu and earn more money then cut back on less starbucks only-

Itu pun mau kecoh. As if la t15 cares about public hospitals and that minimal subsidy.

Whats rm 200? 

Funny as heck-
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Yeap keep crying also no use. Next time vote wisely.
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Nov 3 2024, 07:23 PM)
the thing which is wrong is the term "mahakaya" that has been wrongly put in.
hmm, subsidy is to help the poor. But if you can afford it, why not pay the ori price? This is like you are still taking parent's allowance to support your life while you are earning 13k/m
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Subsidies are for Malaysian people.
That's why RON95 are only purchasable for malaysian cars, not b40 cars. KKM RM1 are for Malaysian patients, not B40 patients. Just because T15 have the luxury of choice, doesn't mean they should be deprived of benefits to malaysians.
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Nov 4 2024, 12:35 AM)
Subsidies are for Malaysian people.
That's why RON95 are only purchasable for malaysian cars, not b40 cars. KKM RM1 are for Malaysian patients, not B40 patients. Just because T15 have the luxury of choice, doesn't mean they should be deprived of benefits to malaysians.
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So, T15 Malaysians should also get STR/BR1M and Social Welfare/JKM financial aid.? .......


https://international.astroawani.com/malays...d---rina-305238 - comatose-pregnant-woman-receive-monthly-jkm-aid
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The reason behind such a high immigration rate in the UAE and Dubai is the benefits offered by the country, including zero-income tax policies, a golden visa program, a booming job market, and a luxurious lifestyle.
https://www.y-axis.com/blog/what-are-the-be...ating-to-dubai/

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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Nov 4 2024, 01:04 AM)
The reason behind such a high immigration rate in the UAE and Dubai is the benefits offered by the country, including zero-income tax policies, a golden visa program, a booming job market, and a luxurious lifestyle.
https://www.y-axis.com/blog/what-are-the-be...ating-to-dubai/

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Mean while government in Malaysia encourage their people to become unproductive, lazy and mat gemilang (rempit). All those high-productive people will be severely punished from left and right. PMX labelled this people as MAHAKAYA. Work hard in Malaysia is a heavy crime. This action will encourage more talents to move overseas. As result, more brain drain. How this country going to progress with this kind of action?
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Nov 3 2024, 07:23 PM)
the thing which is wrong is the term "mahakaya" that has been wrongly put in.
hmm, subsidy is to help the poor. But if you can afford it, why not pay the ori price? This is like you are still taking parent's allowance to support your life while you are earning 13k/m
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like trump said, he's smart.
if us wants to force elites pay more change the tax codes, but congress refuses.

same for us.
stop at pump subsidy as there will be abuses. subsidize the poor in some other way like br1m
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Nov 3 2024, 07:02 PM)
PH is going down hill with PMx penalising those who supported him before thru thick & thin.
Even if he can gain additional M support maybe to 40% ... the non portion will drop from 90% to 40%?

A good strategy or tragedy?
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Cinapek even u put a rock there with a rocket logo they will pangkah roket. Hopeless brainless bunch unfortunately. Yes I am cinapek myself. Talk to any of your friends and relatives and that’s their narrative.
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