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 Why Chinese Language is NOT Better Than Japanese, The Role of Wasei Kango

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Wedchar2912
post Oct 26 2024, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Hoka Nobasho @ Oct 26 2024, 10:54 PM)
Easy only. Just stop using Japanese words and see how you survive.
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now I am very curious... what japanese words that is needed and required to survive and live? really curious...
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post Oct 26 2024, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Hoka Nobasho @ Oct 26 2024, 10:59 PM)
All these are Japanese words:

経済 (keizai) / 经济 (jīngjì) – "Economy"
民主 (minshu) / 民主 (mínzhǔ) – "Democracy"
電話 (denwa) / 电话 (diànhuà) – "Telephone"
教育 (kyouiku) / 教育 (jiàoyù) – "Education"
文化 (bunka) / 文化 (wénhuà) – "Culture"
科学 (kagaku) / 科学 (kēxué) – "Science"
技術 (gijutsu) / 技术 (jìshù) – "Technology"
社会 (shakai) / 社会 (shèhuì) – "Society"
労働 (roudou) / 劳动 (láodòng) – "Labor"
病院 (byouin) / 病院 (bìngyuàn) – "Hospital"

whether it’s calling someone on the phone, getting medical treatment, or participating in the economy, you’re using Japanese-made words
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no... i just use the english words... they are not japanese...

pretty sure the word hospital is not jap.
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post Oct 26 2024, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Hoka Nobasho @ Oct 26 2024, 11:14 PM)
病院 (byouin)—meaning "hospital" in Japanese—is indeed considered Wasei Kango. The term was coined during Japan’s modernization in the Meiji era by combining 病 ("illness") and 院 ("institution"). It was developed to describe Western-style medical facilities that did not exist in pre-modern Japan or China. As Japan established new concepts to accommodate Western-style hospitals, the term 病院 became widely used in Japan before being adopted into modern Chinese as 病院 (bìngyuàn).

The adoption of 病院 into modern Chinese vocabulary further demonstrates the Japanese origin of this term, making it a clear example of how Wasei Kango terms were borrowed by China during its own modernization efforts. This etymology confirms that the term is not traditional Chinese but rather a Japanese innovation that China incorporated later.

The fact that 病院 is recognized as a borrowed term in other East Asian languages, such as Korean (병원), further supports its classification as Wasei Kango, originally stemming from Japan’s efforts to translate and adapt Western concepts into kanji
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i think something wrong with you... read back what you claimed, which is one cannot survive without knowing japanese words (quoting you "Just stop using Japanese words and see how you survive."), which was why I got curious...
Do you want to requalify your statement?

eitherway... i was just curious what special japanese words that everyone must use to survive... that's about it.

This post has been edited by Wedchar2912: Oct 26 2024, 11:18 PM
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post Oct 26 2024, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Hoka Nobasho @ Oct 26 2024, 11:18 PM)
Yes, that is correct. If you don't want to use any Japanese words, good luck communicating anything about science, politics, or economics!
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ok... hmm.gif confused.gif
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post Oct 26 2024, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(Hoka Nobasho @ Oct 26 2024, 11:20 PM)
Imagine China economy crash because they dunno how to communicate using the right words
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i really should ignore you... but...

read back your own statement... "Just stop using Japanese words and see how you survive."

Malaysia definitely don't use japanese, and pretty sure our economy didn't crash.

again, would you like to change your statement or at least try to realize how silly your behavior is?
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post Oct 26 2024, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Hoka Nobasho @ Oct 26 2024, 11:23 PM)
Then why not stop using Japanese words when you are speaking in Chinese and see how?
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ok lar... my last reply to you... you are weird...

read back what you wrote. "Just stop using Japanese words and see how you survive."

also, while you are at it and using your convoluted reasoning, why not ask if Japan's economy will fall if skip all chinese words?


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post Oct 26 2024, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Chanwsan @ Oct 26 2024, 11:26 PM)
Oh yes I do hate people. More especially so when people behave so nonsensically.

I'm such a Japanophile yet I don't go to such length making bogus claims
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now I see what u mean by TS being autistic....

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post Oct 26 2024, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(Hoka Nobasho @ Oct 26 2024, 11:29 PM)
Simple, because they are Japanese words, not Chinese words. Japan can still rely on their hiragana/katakana, but if China drops all the Japanese words, they don't have their own words to use.
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did you get confused between writing scripts with the actual words of the language? doh.gif
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post Oct 27 2024, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Oct 27 2024, 12:01 AM)
Then how about Japan stopped using 汉字 and see?

There have been a big debate in Japan about removing kanji from Japanese writing system, and the conclusion is, it can't be done.

So with that, I don't even see any logic to have this discussion. Chinese the most can just invent new character for it, but the Japanese will have its writing system been impacted badly..so in this context, wanna say Japanese language in foundation is inferior to the Chinese?
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Just as a matter of real intellectual curiosity, would love to see how the Japanese remove a full set of written language from their system. And what will happen to their society.
Removing specific words and replacing such words with something else doesn't even come close. It's like banning the word f*ck with frack smile.gif



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