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 Proton e.Mas 7 - RM120K, EV buatan Malaysia

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post Dec 22 2024, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 21 2024, 07:08 PM)
Anyone knows when will perodua launch their ev?
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All the hype this year likely to fulfil their political obligations as local car manufacturer.

If they retain their quality management approach to new models, highly unlikely we see any deliveries to customers before 2026.
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post Dec 22 2024, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Dec 22 2024, 11:51 AM)
All the hype this year likely to fulfil their political obligations as local car manufacturer.

If they retain their quality management approach to new models, highly unlikely we see any deliveries to customers before 2026.
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Wonder the waiting list for emas
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post Dec 22 2024, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 22 2024, 02:40 PM)
Wonder the waiting list for emas
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There is a lot of interest. SA cancelled all test drive for weekend cause so many people want to view the one car at limited outlets.
I believe the waiting list will be long.
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post Dec 22 2024, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 22 2024, 02:40 PM)
Wonder the waiting list for emas
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Premium 120K might generate buyer interest,
Prime variant 106K WLTP 300+KM err.. Likely shorter waiting time. Later if P1 further discount below 100K perhaps more sales.
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post Dec 22 2024, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 22 2024, 03:17 PM)
There is a lot of interest. SA cancelled all test drive for weekend cause so many people want to view the one car at limited outlets.
I believe the waiting list will be long.
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Noted
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post Dec 22 2024, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Dec 22 2024, 03:18 PM)
Premium 120K might generate buyer interest,
Prime variant 106K WLTP 300+KM err.. Likely shorter waiting time. Later if P1 further discount below 100K perhaps more sales.
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Prime good for city driving i guess
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post Dec 22 2024, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(vhs @ Oct 26 2024, 11:07 AM)
More expensive than Tesla because need to buy 2.
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post Dec 22 2024, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Dec 22 2024, 11:51 AM)
All the hype this year likely to fulfil their political obligations as local car manufacturer.

If they retain their quality management approach to new models, highly unlikely we see any deliveries to customers before 2026.
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Better wait for real owner/user review for daily drive. Will this car get 90% range out of estimated range for this battery at daily drive? Or it will better in range vs rival due to a better tech in the battery?

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post Dec 22 2024, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(GagalLand @ Dec 22 2024, 11:51 AM)
No wonder MY cannot maju
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people tat thinks like tat high chance driving axia and myvi king

RV is king
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QUOTE(contagiouseddie @ Dec 21 2024, 09:57 AM)
I think competitive with what we have currently in the Malaysia market. We can't compare with what is there outside the country nor Malaysia will overnight lower the car prices. ICE car prices going up every year is your prove it won't go down. After 2025 ended, the tax will be slapped on the EV, so even if you CKD, that tax brings it up back to what it is now, maybe a bit lower but you won't be seeing say a Dolphin going for RM65K-70K.
Obviously Proton did nothing on the car. I even think the logo and leterring might even be Geely's work as they don't want to let any incompetent people to do it.

For me the big elephant in the room is Proton itself, it is already a failed company long time ago. Now, given competitive cars like the x series, yet they are not doing miles better than their shit self in terms of after sales and service. Geely has given them basically everything despite only owning 49%, you think they don't feel short handed? So, selling the Galaxy series in other RHD market directly is what they are doing to piss Proton off. Heck, even CEO Li Chunrong gave a speech in Mandarin on the e.MAS 7 launch while before this he was giving speech in English in any of the x series car launch.

Perodua on the other hand, I won't be shock they will be a power house in EV in this region in the near future. They just know how to make cars that people want with a specific need, socio economic background, and good supply chain. All they need now is a factory twice the size of what they have now. They have already hit 100% of capacity.
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Geely hasn't helped Proton in any way, those models that they rebadge Proton have to pay out of pocket, plus pay Geely billion ringgit contract for spare parts and rights to use. Problem is the way Geely running the company, pixx off all the local suppliers as well. Walk into Proton SC today and see all the spare parts, all with Geely logo, which means is imported direct from China and not through local industry.

Perodua don't have this issue. When they launch a model it is 90% local content. I have way more confidence in Perodua nowadays, and the main failures of old models like Myvi was the ride and handling, floating on highway speeds. Now already solved because so many ex-Proton engineers jumped over, again due to Geely management.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Dec 22 2024, 07:07 PM)
Geely hasn't helped Proton in any way, those models that they rebadge Proton have to pay out of pocket, plus pay Geely billion ringgit contract for spare parts and rights to use. Problem is the way Geely running the company, pixx off all the local suppliers as well. Walk into Proton SC today and see all the spare parts, all with Geely logo, which means is imported direct from China and not through local industry.

Perodua don't have this issue. When they launch a model it is 90% local content. I have way more confidence in Perodua nowadays, and the main failures of old models like Myvi was the ride and handling, floating on highway speeds. Now already solved because so many ex-Proton engineers jumped over, again due to Geely management.
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But be it Proton, P2, or Chery, they need to share the local percentage content for the car parts in order to getting the tax rebates hence getting an attractive price. Doubt so they easy to scam the gomen? X70 ckd with 70% as per in news

This is for model other than this Emas since EV no tax

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 22 2024, 07:11 PM)
But be it Proton, P2, or Chery, they need to share the local percentage content for the car parts in order to getting the tax rebates hence getting an attractive price. Doubt so they easy to scam the gomen? X70 ckd with 70% as per in news

This is for model other than this Emas since EV no tax
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IIRC Proton/Geely always had exemption because they "promise" to increase local content in whatever period of time. CBU X70 also had local tax rebate, that's why you see CBU vs CKD not much price difference if at all. Compare standard spec to spec, not executive and above since got equipment difference, CBU and CKD price only 5k difference. 5% only for 100k car.

S70 launch I remember they promise to reach 70% in two years. Which means launch time is what, 30%? Not good enough for so called local car brand, when Perodua is launching Alza at 90% local content at launch.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Dec 22 2024, 07:25 PM)
IIRC Proton/Geely always had exemption because they "promise" to increase local content in whatever period of time. CBU X70 also had local tax rebate, that's why you see CBU vs CKD not much price difference if at all. Compare standard spec to spec, not executive and above since got equipment difference, CBU and CKD price only 5k difference. 5% only for 100k car.

S70 launch I remember they promise to reach 70% in two years. Which means launch time is what, 30%? Not good enough for so called local car brand, when Perodua is launching Alza at 90% local content at launch.
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From the news, the CKD x70 started with 45% local content, to now 70%, majority due to using the local produce 1.5T engine. That the news.

Cbu x70 got exempted tax back then right?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 28 2024, 08:10 AM)
I didn't think the 11kw OBC is that expensive...  hmm.gif

Either ways I always prefer 3 phase OBC rather than single phase OBC...

The 7kW will pull 32A, which even if your house is 3 phase but heavily loaded also will overload that phase and require balancing.
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no issue with 7kw/32a loaded on 1 of 3 phase... no issue with unbalanced load for residential

QUOTE(sitescope @ Oct 28 2024, 04:03 PM)
Normally 80% frm that so around 276km
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not really... my 50kwh/350km rated can go 380~400 if i wanna be adventurous... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 29 2024, 11:28 AM)
I see the new trend now is announcing RM xxx and below, instead of the usual "from RM xxx". *cough* Zeekr *cough*. Looks like they are testing the market interest before announcing the actual price. Maybe if less bookings = lower price?  drool.gif
Personally, I think e.MAS 7 is a good choice. Only issue now is convincing my wife as she is kinda allergy towards the kucing logo  mega_shok.gif . We went to test drive BYD Dolphin and BYD Atto 3 two weeks ago, she strike off Dolphin cause of the interior and front headlamp design. Atto 3 under consideration, offered about 135k for 2024 model... which IF the e.MAS 7 is 129k for long range, no brainer to go for e.MAS 7! Only will consider the Dolphin if it is indeed about 120k like what I read on FB... that also hard sell la because I still value the space and interior design of the e.MAS 7 and most important is the 11kW OBC. My house been using 16A x 3 so far and has been rock solid... don't wanna be using 32A single phase that I might need to do some load balancing at my home pulak.
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your 3x16a 11kw wb can still charge 7kw obc but half speed at 3.5kw...

emas7 will suck for ppl with single phase home...

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post Dec 23 2024, 11:20 AM

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Considering between this and Leapmotor C10. Which one do you think is better?
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post Dec 23 2024, 11:51 AM

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eMas warranty how long?
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post Dec 25 2024, 01:40 AM

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Anyone who has test driven the car , can confirm that speed limit warning /chime will always trigger ?
It’s just what I saw from some YouTube video, thanks
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post Dec 26 2024, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(nomar @ Dec 25 2024, 01:40 AM)
Anyone who has test driven the car , can confirm that speed limit warning /chime will always trigger ?
It’s just what I saw from some YouTube video, thanks
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Yes, there is a speed limit warning but can be turned-off. SA told me once turned-off will not come back when we restart the car but I did not test restarting it so cannot confirm whether it's true or not. But once switched off during the drive it did go away.
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post Dec 26 2024, 02:10 PM

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where's the location of roadshow to test drive the eMAS 7 ?
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post Dec 26 2024, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Dec 26 2024, 02:10 PM)
where's the location of roadshow to test drive the eMAS 7 ?
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Don't think there are any road shows right now. You need to go to those e.Mas showrooms that have the car. Can find SA in facebook and message them.

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