TS,

Wooing girl is like go fishing, you need to be patient, more setbacks and difficulty are more challenging, dont give up so easily. Don't be too rushy (set a time 3 months, 6 months), don't always have mindset to woo her or nails her. That's a big problem, because girl sense is very strong, slow slow, use your sincere to win her heart. Like accompany her that time, try to observe what can make the situation more happier, let her know you try to make something to make her happy and not actually woo her.

Slowly la...once you have it. You can terbalik her anyhow you like, starting is the hardest part, enjoy the fruitful(juicy) result later.

This post has been edited by vaio_me: Nov 29 2007, 11:43 AM

I dont think going to movie is not a good idea. This is the best reason to initiate a date, by the way. Girl can observe and give point during the movie session, like I always use is to hold their hand in the movie, but not that fast, probably 2-3 months. You can ask them cold or not, if she say yes, then hold her hand to warm her, if no then u say u are cold, can you warm me? but this always work for me.

Talk can talk during dinner.

80% success, but you can sense the girl see she attracted to you or not.

Nevermind brother, you are still doing very good. Big fish usually are hard to catch. Don't be too rushy, don't always called her and ask her out, she is sending signal "STOP bothering me". I would suggest you to send sms daily, encouragement and also hope her assignment and study score full mark, this one you "goreng" yourself.

Since she is sick, then you need to like very worry, "ask her see doctor already ma", u say u got get some good medicine (bluff la, u say my friend drink already very good, no vomit already), or u say u ask someone (mother or whoever) to make sup that can cure vomit and late sleep. You go her house give to her and flee, dont talk much. Let her feel like she is princess.

What her worry now is assignment, just encourage her. Also, try to observe what she like? maybe you can buy the shoe she see in the shop. It's okay, small money don't go, big fish wont come.

About the bf or guy friend? if bf, is ok la, probably she lost interest to her bf and going out with you. So, you gonna grab this opportunity and do good. If she every talk about some guy, just say wah, where can like that, me wont do this...just say u are best and ppl are worst. Ok la..it seem evil but that life.

Best of luck

Wah ...congratulation to you already. You almost there, why? you see, if she lost interest to her bf, she is probably sick of love and want to rest. Don't give her rest, there's no more feeling to her bf, so need someone to be her companion to substitute. You come and save her from the sad love she has experience. She is now in lowest defend, send your troop and attack but slowly. Do step by step and you will succeed.

Dont worry of being the third party, this is a fair world. Everyday also got ppl break up, you are the best for her. You gonna think this way.

This post has been edited by vaio_me: Nov 29 2007, 02:47 PM

How come can give up so easily? Since she and her bf is not happy, why wanna suffer. Sometimes, there's a need for someone to save a relationship from keep on dragging and break up.

Be optimistic, if you cant get her, probably one day she would know how good you are, the fish will swim back to you. because you have a good foundation at the beginning.

TS, set yourself a limit, 3 months or 6 months, if kenot, hunt for another. No longer worth to invest, find a bigger fish...haha..big sea !

This post has been edited by vaio_me: Nov 29 2007, 02:58 PM

After reading the story, it seems like the girl really don't know what she wants.

One might suspect that she is treating TS as a spare tyre where once she decided to break up with her bf, she has someone to take over and she won't feel loliness or whatever. This girl is playing with fire. Maybe TS isn't what her ideal choice but I think she wouldn't might you hanging there, but I think she will seek for a better candidate when you and her are couple. Unless TS have something to hold her tight, else she might flip away from your grip.