Seeing increasing number Jaecoo cars... Ada apa2 rahsia ka?
So many Jaecoo cars... Any secret ka?
So many Jaecoo cars... Any secret ka?
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Oct 23 2024, 12:17 AM, updated 2y ago
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Seeing increasing number Jaecoo cars... Ada apa2 rahsia ka?
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Oct 23 2024, 12:18 AM
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Oct 23 2024, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(kopitiamtardx @ Oct 23 2024, 12:17 AM) Jaecoo J7 users are 1. Find CX5 too small and crampy 2. Not willing to go for CRV Honda with infamous steering rack issue 3. No like EV 4. Want luxury specs but low price lagenda110, kdr93, and 59 others liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 12:23 AM
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Oct 23 2024, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Oct 23 2024, 12:21 AM) Jaecoo J7 users are Seeing that small alternator. This car mcm under power in real life compare to paper. How is it? Anyone has drive before?1. Find CX5 too small and crampy 2. Not willing to go for CRV Honda with infamous steering rack issue 3. No like EV 4. Want luxury specs but low price tension7 liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 12:42 AM
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Oct 23 2024, 12:51 AM
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the 15' tablet alone is already a win. Jag23sys liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 01:16 AM
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temu version of range rover because why not
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Oct 23 2024, 01:26 AM
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- Thieves don't want to steal. - Can drive during flood ( 60 cm) - No use CVT - Can cut queue at u turn, coz can drive over road divider and u turn. This post has been edited by @@@@@@@@@@: Oct 23 2024, 01:30 AM keyibukeyi, lovecats, and 13 others liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 02:32 AM
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Looks like range rover. Who don't want a range rover? novblaze and JeremyLord liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 02:39 AM
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ada gaya
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Oct 23 2024, 02:47 AM
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Jaecoo J5 coming next year
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Oct 23 2024, 06:46 AM
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If i can only buy ccp car now, I also choose jaecoo.
Nice looking suv. |
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Oct 23 2024, 06:50 AM
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big size, good spec & good price
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Oct 23 2024, 07:09 AM
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Internal seating space, is it more bigger and comfy than x70?
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DCT is good compare to CVT
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Oct 23 2024, 07:14 AM
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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Oct 23 2024, 07:09 AM) Overall i think x70 are bigger and even the seat in x70 are more comfy.The boot opening quite low, if u are tall u may hit the boot opening. As this j7 are much newer car and with new tech and looks modern deswai more ppl incline to it. kkkw80 liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 07:18 AM
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ada duit
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Oct 23 2024, 07:24 AM
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Anyone test drive dy? Got enuf power meh? Or feel like vios acceleration? 13th liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 07:24 AM
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Oct 23 2024, 07:25 AM
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being hard sell if you ask me
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Oct 23 2024, 07:32 AM
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Me personally due to - existing Honda City dah tua (11 years) and repair costing not worth dee. - Looking at car around 120k +-. - Need SUV since travel always long distance > 60km per trip = friendly for my old ass and waist - Some protection against KL flash flood (60 cm flood clearance) - Cukup horse power (When turbo kicks in at 2200rpm = fuiyooooo) - HRV B segment V spec need 13xk. J7 C segment 13xk. Value ratio obvious winner is J7 What i dislike about J7 after driving 2 weeks: ~ small ass come with small boot ~ sluggish low speed driving, minor chok and cough if you not familiar with the accelerator. Typical challenge for turbo car ~ miss conception of driving a Range Rover by people not familiar of it haha ... i'm not rich, it's not a RR dr0olingb0at, keyibukeyi, and 7 others liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 07:36 AM
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I test drove the AWD version. Nothing special, just normal.
The exterior and interior very attractive, price also reasonable. If you compare with the CX5 and CRV, Jaecoo give you more for less money. But with all China cars, its the part you can't see that's where they cut cost. |
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Oct 23 2024, 07:37 AM
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Affordable luxury lol
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Oct 23 2024, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE(dman @ Oct 23 2024, 07:14 AM) Overall i think x70 are bigger and even the seat in x70 are more comfy. Oh man. X70 rear seating space is Very cramp already for me. Then this jaeco j7 is even more cramp lah..The boot opening quite low, if u are tall u may hit the boot opening. As this j7 are much newer car and with new tech and looks modern deswai more ppl incline to it. This post has been edited by sp3d2: Oct 23 2024, 07:39 AM |
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Oct 23 2024, 07:38 AM
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Oct 23 2024, 07:39 AM
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Oct 23 2024, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE(ahhann @ Oct 23 2024, 07:32 AM) Me personally due to Topup abit wait for C9 bro. - existing Honda City dah tua (11 years) and repair costing not worth dee. - Looking at car around 120k +-. - Need SUV since travel always long distance > 60km per trip = friendly for my old ass and waist - Some protection against KL flash flood (60 cm flood clearance) - Cukup horse power (When turbo kicks in at 2200rpm = fuiyooooo) - HRV B segment V spec need 13xk. J7 C segment 13xk. Value ratio obvious winner is J7 What i dislike about J7 after driving 2 weeks: ~ small ass come with small boot ~ sluggish low speed driving, minor chok and cough if you not familiar with the accelerator. Typical challenge for turbo car ~ miss conception of driving a Range Rover by people not familiar of it haha ... i'm not rich, it's not a RR |
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Wait for BYD sealion 6 PHEV. Looking at the prices in our neighbouring countries, it will destroy the rest of the chinese cars here. Jag23sys, BlueLion11, and 1 other liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 07:42 AM
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How much?
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Oct 23 2024, 07:43 AM
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Ive long held assumption that malaysians love masculine/macho/aggresive looking cars.
Example: - civic ketam. The Current civic struggling in sales and have to give discount until rm12-16-20k - Current Vios look. Back seat cant even fold down to carry ur ikea furniture. Yet it still outsold current more practical honda city consistently. Honda City hatchback. Thank god they bring those instead of the more feminine looking Honda Jazz current gen. If not sales sure gonna be massive fail. Yet even my wife, say the current gen city (sedan&hatchback) exterior looks ugly. We bumped into this Jaecoo J7 in the carpark and she stopped for a while amd ask me what car is this? It looks nice… 😅 Back to this Jaecoo J7. The macho design most probably hit msian taste right in the spot. This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Oct 23 2024, 07:47 AM |
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Need buy 2? tension7 liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 07:46 AM
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rahsia is ppl are gullible
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Oct 23 2024, 07:46 AM
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Oct 23 2024, 07:49 AM
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Malaysians see anything that is big and cheap = good. CPURanger, littlefire, and 2 others liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 07:49 AM
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Oct 23 2024, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Oct 23 2024, 07:49 AM) Oh yours is basic. So 2wd got difference with the awd or not? Fuel consumption how? J7 phev coming donno what price, if same as C9 would you pick j7 phev or C9 ice? FWD lighter 100kg, less 2 tyre traction of drive train, so FC would be better from AWD. But my personal guess maybe better 10% nia, depend on your golden right leg also. Pick FWD cause brother a mechanic say you no go off-road pasal mau maintain more AWD part haha ...I need some proven tech for reliable and long term, thus would pick ICE over PHEV for now. Need to observe a while first PHEV. Next car most probably PHEV / EV given this trend around the globe. |
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basically favorable cheap price of CCP Chery without bad axle reputation.
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QUOTE(ahhann @ Oct 23 2024, 07:57 AM) FWD lighter 100kg, less 2 tyre traction of drive train, so FC would be better from AWD. But my personal guess maybe better 10% nia, depend on your golden right leg also. Pick FWD cause brother a mechanic say you no go off-road pasal mau maintain more AWD part haha ... if you need some proven tech for reliable and long termI need some proven tech for reliable and long term, thus would pick ICE over PHEV for now. Need to observe a while first PHEV. Next car most probably PHEV / EV given this trend around the globe. china ICE car are the worst to choose from |
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Oct 23 2024, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE(kopitiamtardx @ Oct 23 2024, 12:17 AM) I also notice latelymati lor Protong. So many ex potong staff already migrated to jaeco. 4 cylinder car, apple/google play if got...Protong X90 can say sayonara wor some more Jaeco design nicer. Jaeco belongs to Cheri |
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Oct 23 2024, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 23 2024, 08:17 AM) finger cross i no need open ranting thread at here in the future but then 11 years ago when i first drive City CVT i also kena kutuk 9 9 by /k what CVT no ohmmm la, too new la risk of lack knowledge to repair, no spare part la kena put Honda 1 month la if rosak touch wood 11 years gone only rosak all 4 suspension and steering rack. This post has been edited by ahhann: Oct 23 2024, 08:30 AM |
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Oct 23 2024, 08:34 AM
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Oct 23 2024, 08:41 AM
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the sole reason = it looks like range rover but priced at only rm150k for the top spec
end of setori, lul |
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Oct 23 2024, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(ahhann @ Oct 23 2024, 08:28 AM) finger cross i no need open ranting thread at here in the future CVT i have no problem withbut then 11 years ago when i first drive City CVT i also kena kutuk 9 9 by /k what CVT no ohmmm la, too new la risk of lack knowledge to repair, no spare part la kena put Honda 1 month la if rosak touch wood 11 years gone only rosak all 4 suspension and steering rack. i own 1 myself but china ICE car is a big NO for me i only recommend people buy china EV |
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Oct 23 2024, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(ahhann @ Oct 23 2024, 07:57 AM) FWD lighter 100kg, less 2 tyre traction of drive train, so FC would be better from AWD. But my personal guess maybe better 10% nia, depend on your golden right leg also. Pick FWD cause brother a mechanic say you no go off-road pasal mau maintain more AWD part haha ... What about your own FC? 15km/l got?I need some proven tech for reliable and long term, thus would pick ICE over PHEV for now. Need to observe a while first PHEV. Next car most probably PHEV / EV given this trend around the globe. |
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Oct 23 2024, 08:51 AM
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some on defensive mode no good lah ccp cars, dont buy lah must keep buying japanese cars but good that chery being aggressive try to kacau the market also more choices the better
prices getting out of hand without competition, 95k for a vios lol |
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J7 mode selector with CCP lady voice: "awf rohd mord" "sirport mord" "mard mord" "send mord" mingyan, williamtan2020, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Oct 23 2024, 08:51 AM) some on defensive mode no good lah ccp cars, dont buy lah must keep buying japanese cars but good that chery being aggressive try to kacau the market also more choices the better The idea of "Japan car good, China car bad" is why Honda can keep selling cars with bad steering rack.prices getting out of hand without competition, 95k for a vios lol |
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Oct 23 2024, 09:04 AM
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1Cheap
2)Looks Good 3)Big 4)Full specs |
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Oct 23 2024, 09:04 AM
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I'm currently also looking for a new car.....look see look see but not urgent to replace my 12 years old car. Was looking at CX30, CX5 and Corolla Cross but this Jaecoo J7 is very tempting, just that not sure of the reliability of China car. I'm looking for reliability and car that can last more that 12 years. Looking back 10 to 15 years ago where the Korean car hype (like now China car) for example Kia Forte, Hyundai Sonata with fresh design and pricing which many says will overtake Japanese cars soon. But now after 10 to 15 years where are they? Still reliable? I'm not sure. So, for China car I will wait and see as I am not rich enough to gamble on their car yet. CPURanger liked this post
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Oct 23 2024, 09:02 AM) The idea of "Japan car good, China car bad" is why Honda can keep selling cars with bad steering rack. These days even japanese brands have millions of recalls, safety cheating an these fans ust act like nothing yet they dare say people who buy ccp cars are some ccp fans while they become fanatic themself lol playnice96 liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 09:11 AM
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Everyone and their mothers dreamed to drive RangeRover now can finally fulfilling their dream cheaply.
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no one ask bout the RV?
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QUOTE(plain_white @ Oct 23 2024, 07:45 AM) Simebarbie:Wedontdothathere.gif noien liked this post
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no secret, show room kedai pun buka banyak macam cu mart.
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QUOTE(GiganticBird @ Oct 23 2024, 08:41 AM) the sole reason = it looks like range rover but priced at only rm150k for the top spec Another surprisedpikachu phenomenon is how well selling Jimny is.end of setori, lul It used to be pretty rare but nowadays you can find more of it on the road than new Nissan cars, KEKWA. Freshmeat21 liked this post
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QUOTE(ahhann @ Oct 23 2024, 07:32 AM) Me personally due to What do you put inside your boot? - existing Honda City dah tua (11 years) and repair costing not worth dee. - Looking at car around 120k +-. - Need SUV since travel always long distance > 60km per trip = friendly for my old ass and waist - Some protection against KL flash flood (60 cm flood clearance) - Cukup horse power (When turbo kicks in at 2200rpm = fuiyooooo) - HRV B segment V spec need 13xk. J7 C segment 13xk. Value ratio obvious winner is J7 What i dislike about J7 after driving 2 weeks: ~ small ass come with small boot ~ sluggish low speed driving, minor chok and cough if you not familiar with the accelerator. Typical challenge for turbo car ~ miss conception of driving a Range Rover by people not familiar of it haha ... i'm not rich, it's not a RR upah... ![]() |
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QUOTE(SeniorCitizen @ Oct 23 2024, 09:04 AM) I'm currently also looking for a new car.....look see look see but not urgent to replace my 12 years old car. Was looking at CX30, CX5 and Corolla Cross but this Jaecoo J7 is very tempting, just that not sure of the reliability of China car. I'm looking for reliability and car that can last more that 12 years. Want car that last more than 12 years (and still retain some RV), H&T are still the only way to go.Looking back 10 to 15 years ago where the Korean car hype (like now China car) for example Kia Forte, Hyundai Sonata with fresh design and pricing which many says will overtake Japanese cars soon. But now after 10 to 15 years where are they? Still reliable? I'm not sure. So, for China car I will wait and see as I am not rich enough to gamble on their car yet. |
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A close check on the front lamp then you will notice it is quite low quality.
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I hate how they all just slap a giant screen for interior and call it done. Copy tesla No easy to touch physical buttons to change aircond pobox and Buffalo Soldier liked this post
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QUOTE(jonthebaptist @ Oct 23 2024, 03:32 AM) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chery_Jaguar_Land_RoverChery does got land rover sharing/joint venture in China, thus how they got the cues. |
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saw it once while refueling last week in Kuching here, to be honest, doesn't look bad at all. Certainly an eye catcher imo
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Oct 23 2024, 09:17 AM) Wheel chair.Frequent hospital visit for father mother pobox liked this post
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Oct 23 2024, 10:19 AM) If you ask people involve in automotive, from outer part design, metal panels to internal plastics they will tell you it is low cost material thus why it can be sell at attractive price. Many ex-cherry owners feedback the real test is after 5 years where the plastics part will start to brittle/fail and also when involve accident or serious mechanical claims, how fast they can claim? Hope to see improvement in future, if no it will restart another cycle of closure and reopening again. |
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Oct 23 2024, 08:51 AM) some on defensive mode no good lah ccp cars, dont buy lah must keep buying japanese cars but good that chery being aggressive try to kacau the market also more choices the better those were the days when vios used to be budget toyolta carprices getting out of hand without competition, 95k for a vios lol now become as big as colola already |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 23 2024, 09:27 AM) If you ask people involve in automotive, from outer part design, metal panels to internal plastics they will tell you it is low cost material thus why it can be sell at attractive price. Many ex-cherry owners feedback the real test is after 5 years where the plastics part will start to brittle/fail and also when involve accident or serious mechanical claims, how fast they can claim? Hope to see improvement in future, if no it will restart another cycle of closure and reopening again. pakai buang |
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QUOTE(dman @ Oct 23 2024, 07:14 AM) Overall i think x70 are bigger and even the seat in x70 are more comfy. x70 is old car. even back design is almost the same like 2018 x70. who want to buy this. lol. nothing special anymore.The boot opening quite low, if u are tall u may hit the boot opening. As this j7 are much newer car and with new tech and looks modern deswai more ppl incline to it. Jag23sys liked this post
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Strong point --> Good/higher Spec with lower Price. Jag23sys liked this post
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QUOTE(SeniorCitizen @ Oct 23 2024, 09:04 AM) I'm currently also looking for a new car.....look see look see but not urgent to replace my 12 years old car. Was looking at CX30, CX5 and Corolla Cross but this Jaecoo J7 is very tempting, just that not sure of the reliability of China car. I'm looking for reliability and car that can last more that 12 years. Korea car has best design, best aesthetic, always bagged Car Of The Year, but still cannot sell.Looking back 10 to 15 years ago where the Korean car hype (like now China car) for example Kia Forte, Hyundai Sonata with fresh design and pricing which many says will overtake Japanese cars soon. But now after 10 to 15 years where are they? Still reliable? I'm not sure. So, for China car I will wait and see as I am not rich enough to gamble on their car yet. |
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QUOTE(chilskater @ Oct 23 2024, 08:10 AM) Each got pro & conDCT good on highway or high-speed driving, but during slow crawling and traffic jam you will feel the gearbox very suffer and not smooth compare to like CVT or AT gearbox. CVT are more better at lower speed and smooth operation, but poor at high-speed/rpm driving. |
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Oct 23 2024, 09:45 AM
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Not sure how good will it be five years down the load.
Looks nice now, but imma stick with my ugly outdated overpriced underspecced HRV. Despite being a turbo vroom vroom, fuel consumption is respectable 15-16kml consistently. Drives pretty well in the city too. China is not exactly known for their ICE and driving dynamics, feel numb, overdamped road handling, and their fuel consumption is scary too. Though, people who buy this probably don't really care too. |
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J7 is petrol or hybrid car?
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Too much electronics which I wonder if there is fail safe feature in case any electronic function fail
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Oct 23 2024, 10:38 AM) Sadly, i can say is because of pricing. Their car price gone up a lot over the years. I do like Kia cars, especially Carnival but sadly out of my budget (over 2xxk) gobiomani liked this post
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Oct 23 2024, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 23 2024, 09:29 AM) But still 95k for such car, point is that Malaysian got used to the price even it's overpriced for a basic cac and that Toyota can keep increase giving less recycled and make easy money. Without competition everyone get screwed. |
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malaysian suka besar , gadget manyak manyak and murah . MR_alien and amboi_asamboi liked this post
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AWD weh. masuk padang pasir pun boleh . ayam if ada duit will instabuy
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Habislah, all other SUV manufacturers have to mintak ploteksyen already. Katanya China has subsidy and unfair playing field.
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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Oct 23 2024, 09:45 AM) China is not exactly known for their ICE and driving dynamics, feel numb, overdamped road handling, and their fuel consumption is scary too. Though, people who buy this probably don't really care too. but yes like you said, most ppl who bought this only see from outside only. dont care much. |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 23 2024, 09:55 AM) J7 phev coming this Dec max_cavalera liked this post
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RR wannabe ; best value in market compare to competitor ; technically consider as high class brand from chery
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QUOTE(Zot @ Oct 23 2024, 09:51 AM) Too much electronics which I wonder if there is fail safe feature in case any electronic function fail We will know the answer after ten years 2034 see how much jaecoo 7 on the road 🛣️One more thing is that I have no good feeling a turbo engine on anything engine smaller than 2L |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 23 2024, 10:39 AM) my recent experience with one of the CCP SUV for a week, well, yes it is true, the driving dynamics is kinda sucks . steering dem light I thought I was driving an Axia lulz. seriously kinda scary to drive > 120 KM/H on highway. With that kind or pricing, plus all the whistle and bells, where to save ? Things which u can't see......but yes like you said, most ppl who bought this only see from outside only. dont care much. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Good looking car with acceptable specs, what's not to find it appealing?
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Oct 23 2024, 10:59 AM
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How the J7 drive compare to X70?
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QUOTE(SeniorCitizen @ Oct 23 2024, 09:04 AM) I'm currently also looking for a new car.....look see look see but not urgent to replace my 12 years old car. Was looking at CX30, CX5 and Corolla Cross but this Jaecoo J7 is very tempting, just that not sure of the reliability of China car. I'm looking for reliability and car that can last more that 12 years. Reliable, engine g.box wise, yes. Many still running on the road but not in big cities. Reason I bought Forte back then was the specs were great & value for money. Sadly, the distributor got greedy & raise pricing after being popular. So pricing really does matter here.Looking back 10 to 15 years ago where the Korean car hype (like now China car) for example Kia Forte, Hyundai Sonata with fresh design and pricing which many says will overtake Japanese cars soon. But now after 10 to 15 years where are they? Still reliable? I'm not sure. So, for China car I will wait and see as I am not rich enough to gamble on their car yet. QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 23 2024, 09:27 AM) If you ask people involve in automotive, from outer part design, metal panels to internal plastics they will tell you it is low cost material thus why it can be sell at attractive price. Many ex-cherry owners feedback the real test is after 5 years where the plastics part will start to brittle/fail and also when involve accident or serious mechanical claims, how fast they can claim? Hope to see improvement in future, if no it will restart another cycle of closure and reopening again. Cheap plastic interior absolutely common in Japs CN B/C segment cars here. Or else how to sell cheap.That's why, the better of the worse surprisingly is Proton X70. Interior plastic quality not as chekai as the rest. Only problem I have is the center console arm grip inside plastic melting (like conti) but its not a big concern for me as rarely use this grip. (see attached photo). Can get wrap for it but a bit Ah Beng. QUOTE(DS51 @ Oct 23 2024, 09:32 AM) x70 is old car. even back design is almost the same like 2018 x70. who want to buy this. lol. nothing special anymore. True. Msian are very self conscious about looks, hence why this J7 is attractive. Range Rover looks, big center screen, sleek interior.But the interior plastic quality is rather disappointing, the size eventhough C segment is smaller than X70 (interior size, boot space & wheel base). Have not driven J7 but doubt the NVH is as comfortable as older X70 (even my boss X5 NVH not as good). One thing I have to give to Geely, is that they really know how to make the interior comfortable, from soft touch plastics, seats bolster & wrap around body, balance of seat hardness vs comfort, superior NVH, ok'ish ride & handling (its a damn SUV), good buttons tactile feel, thoughtful low level interior lighting at night ... Read somewhere long time ago, Geely has best interior design amongst all CN car manufacturers. Problem is Proton isn't able to sell enough to justify new replacement model. Proton 1 year sales = CN Geely 1 month sales. How to justify investment needed for new replacement when sales soooo little. We Msian think like jaguh kampung, self importance but reality bites back when face with facts. Proton just cant get quick ROI with such a small market size. Some more we're RHD, conversion from LHD & low volume = increase cost. This post has been edited by Lanchio: Oct 23 2024, 11:21 AM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 23 2024, 09:53 AM) Sadly, i can say is because of pricing. Their car price gone up a lot over the years. It is Vellfire rival yo, RM200k consider very cheap if same range with other full size MPV, get la commercial 11seats without much taxI do like Kia cars, especially Carnival but sadly out of my budget (over 2xxk) |
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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Oct 23 2024, 12:16 PM) Reliable, engine g.box wise, yes. Many still running on the road but not in big cities. Reason I bought Forte back then was the specs were great & value for money. Sadly, the distributor got greedy & raise pricing after being popular. So pricing really does matter here. My household own few Japanese car from Toyota to Subaru. Most over 10 years of ownership, even tho cheap plastic but never really broken or brittle within even 15 years. FYI, most my rides all park under the sun. Cheap plastic interior absolutely common in Japs CN B/C segment cars here. Or else how to sell cheap. That's why, the better of the worse surprisingly is Proton X70. Interior plastic quality not as chekai as the rest. Only problem I have is the center console arm grip inside plastic melting (like conti) but its not a big concern for me as rarely use this grip. (see attached photo). Can get wrap for it but a bit Ah Beng. True. Msian are very self conscious about looks, hence why this J7 is attractive. Range Rover looks, big center screen, sleek interior. But the interior plastic quality is rather disappointing, the size eventhough C segment is smaller than X70 (interior size, boot space & wheel base). Have not driven J7 but doubt the NVH is as comfortable as older X70 (even my boss X5 NVH not as good). One thing I have to give to Geely, is that they really know how to make the interior comfortable, from soft touch plastics, seats bolster & wrap around body, balance of seat hardness vs comfort, superior NVH, ok'ish ride & handling (its a damn SUV), good buttons tactile feel, thoughtful low level interior lighting at night ... Read somewhere long time ago, Geely has best interior design amongst all CN car manufacturers. Problem is Proton isn't able to sell enough to justify new replacement model. Proton 1 year sales = CN Geely 1 month sales. How to justify investment needed for new replacement when sales soooo little. We Msian think like jaguh kampung, self importance but reality bites back when face with facts. Proton just cant get quick ROI with such a small market size. Some more we're RHD, conversion from LHD & low volume = increase cost. Try ask X70 how many plastic door handle already broken? Some will claim it is design issue, here n that but in reality a lot cheap/lower range cars the plastics are not design to last long. This is what ex-cherry owners fear as i personally knew 1 after 5 years door panel, handle and a lot of plastic parts can break anytime until he give up and sold it with superglue fix. This post has been edited by littlefire: Oct 23 2024, 01:44 PM |
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maybe the look of the car and price successfully attract ppl kut... but looking at their soon to launch hybrid j7, tiba2, the price increase 30-40k? wtf... msia ada charge lebih tax on hybrid oh
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How ah? Honda donno how to assemble car properly.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 23 2024, 02:33 PM) i think most jepunis and korea one dont have still.CR-V and CX-5 definitely didn't have the last time I went to view. |
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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Oct 23 2024, 11:16 AM) Reliable, engine g.box wise, yes. Many still running on the road but not in big cities. Reason I bought Forte back then was the specs were great & value for money. Sadly, the distributor got greedy & raise pricing after being popular. So pricing really does matter here. That stupid X70 arm rest after 3 years, the rubber melts and starts to get sticky. Cheap plastic interior absolutely common in Japs CN B/C segment cars here. Or else how to sell cheap. That's why, the better of the worse surprisingly is Proton X70. Interior plastic quality not as chekai as the rest. Only problem I have is the center console arm grip inside plastic melting (like conti) but its not a big concern for me as rarely use this grip. (see attached photo). Can get wrap for it but a bit Ah Beng. True. Msian are very self conscious about looks, hence why this J7 is attractive. Range Rover looks, big center screen, sleek interior. But the interior plastic quality is rather disappointing, the size eventhough C segment is smaller than X70 (interior size, boot space & wheel base). Have not driven J7 but doubt the NVH is as comfortable as older X70 (even my boss X5 NVH not as good). One thing I have to give to Geely, is that they really know how to make the interior comfortable, from soft touch plastics, seats bolster & wrap around body, balance of seat hardness vs comfort, superior NVH, ok'ish ride & handling (its a damn SUV), good buttons tactile feel, thoughtful low level interior lighting at night ... Read somewhere long time ago, Geely has best interior design amongst all CN car manufacturers. Problem is Proton isn't able to sell enough to justify new replacement model. Proton 1 year sales = CN Geely 1 month sales. How to justify investment needed for new replacement when sales soooo little. We Msian think like jaguh kampung, self importance but reality bites back when face with facts. Proton just cant get quick ROI with such a small market size. Some more we're RHD, conversion from LHD & low volume = increase cost. So much for tactile looks. Why need to sell 1 yr sales? Geely's already got that 4 pot newest model they launched early this year at Beijing motor show, why can't they bring it in? I suppose the issue is that Proton invested to much in that X70 CKD line in Tg Malim, to change it to fit to Geely's newest Boyue. ![]() |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 23 2024, 01:41 PM) My household own few Japanese car from Toyota to Subaru. Most over 10 years of ownership, even tho cheap plastic but never really broken or brittle within even 15 years. FYI, most my rides all park under the sun. My household have T/H/Lexus/Merc/BMW/P1/P2. Have given up on the quality of plastic in any brand nowadays. Every company cutting cost & using green as excuse. Don't revere the Japs Germans much, they're both guilty in lowering costs to increase profit margins. Call me old but I remember a time when parts quality was damn decent. Like using aluminum impellers instead of plastic for water pump, or not using biodegradable plastics for wiring harness. As for my X70, maybe the CBU plastic door handle quality better? So far, 5 yrs 9 months still ok (touch wood).Try ask X70 how many plastic door handle already broken? Some will claim it is design issue, here n that but in reality a lot cheap/lower range cars the plastics are not design to last long. This is what ex-cherry owners fear as i personally knew 1 after 5 years door panel, handle and a lot of plastic parts can break anytime until he give up and sold it with superglue fix. QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 23 2024, 02:51 PM) That stupid X70 arm rest after 3 years, the rubber melts and starts to get sticky. Yup, Proton invested too much in the factory, the 3cyl engine, the moulds for X Series, the spare parts, the manufacturing contract with local suppliers etc. Notice how they're quietly want to phase out the 1.8 turbo & push the 1.5 3 cyl turbo engine. Invested 100℅ & want to maximize it. This Face lift, they could have gone 1.5 turbo hybrid (like X90) but somehow did not. I really wonder why? Sometimes, I get the feeling Pinoys get the better models (due to LHD) & specs.So much for tactile looks. Why need to sell 1 yr sales? Geely's already got that 4 pot newest model they launched early this year at Beijing motor show, why can't they bring it in? I suppose the issue is that Proton invested to much in that X70 CKD line in Tg Malim, to change it to fit to Geely's newest Boyue. <img src='https://<link removed>/image/2023/04/Geely-Boyue-Cool-3.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> This post has been edited by Lanchio: Oct 23 2024, 03:51 PM |
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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Oct 23 2024, 03:45 PM) Have given up on the quality of plastic in any brand nowadays. Every company cutting cost & using green as excuse. Don't revere the Japs Germans much, they're both guilty in lowering costs to increase profit margins. Call me old but I remember a time when parts quality was damn decent. Like using aluminum impellers instead of plastic for water pump. As for my X70, maybe the CBU plastic door handle quality better? So far, 5 yrs 9 months still ok (touch wood). I dun understand geely's logic. Yup, Proton invested too much in the factory, the 3cyl engine, the moulds for X Series, the spare parts, the manufacturing contract with local suppliers etc. Notice how they're quietly want to phase out the 1.8 turbo & push the 1.5 3 cyl turbo engine. Invested 100℅ & want to maximize it. This Face lift, they could have gone 1.5 turbo hybrid (like X90) but somehow did not. I really wonder why? Sometimes, I get the feeling Pinoys get the better models (due to LHD) & specs. maybe it was too late for X70 but for x50 and x90 and s70, geely should have brought in their 4 pot technology, but stood for the 3 pot ones instead for Proton's Tg Malim CKD line. It just goes to show how selfish they are, just want to push the old stock parts to clear off at proton first. this is what arrogance begets. They thought they could dominate msia market, they didn't think that PMX would have allowed so many China OEMs to come here. Maybe someone boast 3 pot can save fuel, but not make a difference for X70 pun. Some more, 3 cylinder, 2 go up 1 go down...puts unnecessary strain on the toot toot, don't want to say lah. This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Oct 23 2024, 03:53 PM |
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 23 2024, 03:49 PM) I dun understand geely's logic. Lets take the technical pro-con of 3 pot vs 4 pot out of the equation.maybe it was too late for X70 but for x50 and x90 and s70, geely should have brought in their 4 pot technology, but stood for the 3 pot ones instead for Proton's Tg Malim CKD line. It just goes to show how selfish they are, just want to push the old stock parts to clear off at proton first. this is what arrogance begets. They thought they could dominate msia market, they didn't think that PMX would have allowed so many China OEMs to come here. Maybe someone boast 3 pot can save fuel, but not make a difference for X70 pun. Some more, 3 cylinder, 2 go up 1 go down...puts unnecessary strain on the mounting. Its all about biz & money. At that time (2019/20) the 3 pot was the most hyped (Volvo was also using) & P1 took this as the one engine to rule them all. Using 1 prime engine makes biz sense. From TGDI to NA, lots of common parts. Reducing cost. Bear in mind, biggest cost in car manufacturing is drive train (engine + g.box). Mana tau, 3 cyl not popular in CN. But in west, 3 cyl rather acceptable. So P1 already invested so much, got to continue use lah. As for the vibration, timing belt, faster engine mounting wear .... we Msian are a bunch of complainers, jaguh kampung who are followers, bending with the wind. In short, nothing will please us. We want cheap cheap, good good, last forever barang. Nothing will fully satisfy our big ego, small pocket. Sorry for the rant. Anyways, Proton is now stuck with this 3 pot. IMO, the only way to save it is to go hybrid (like X90) as there is now a gap between ICE & EV. Not everyone can go EV & hybrid is the mid point. That's the only way to save this investment. |
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Top selling point = NOT CVT. This car is using DCT.
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 23 2024, 03:49 PM) I dun understand geely's logic. 3 pot is really for fuel saving bro.maybe it was too late for X70 but for x50 and x90 and s70, geely should have brought in their 4 pot technology, but stood for the 3 pot ones instead for Proton's Tg Malim CKD line. It just goes to show how selfish they are, just want to push the old stock parts to clear off at proton first. this is what arrogance begets. They thought they could dominate msia market, they didn't think that PMX would have allowed so many China OEMs to come here. Maybe someone boast 3 pot can save fuel, but not make a difference for X70 pun. Some more, 3 cylinder, 2 go up 1 go down...puts unnecessary strain on the toot toot, don't want to say lah. x70 because the freaking car is big and heavy. s70 x50 fuel consumption seems not that bad like x70 |
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actually J8 and Omoda C9 coming in soon kan
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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Oct 23 2024, 04:07 PM) Lets take the technical pro-con of 3 pot vs 4 pot out of the equation. I don't know when Geely changed from 3 pot to 4 pot. Probably back in 2020, Geely already know their stupid mounting bracket can't take the 1.8 + 3 pot engine. Still, they sell the CBU X70 to us to clear old stock. Still they went off with S70/X90/X50 3 pot. Its all about biz & money. At that time (2019/20) the 3 pot was the most hyped (Volvo was also using) & P1 took this as the one engine to rule them all. Using 1 prime engine makes biz sense. From TGDI to NA, lots of common parts. Reducing cost. Bear in mind, biggest cost in car manufacturing is drive train (engine + g.box). Mana tau, 3 cyl not popular in CN. But in west, 3 cyl rather acceptable. So P1 already invested so much, got to continue use lah. As for the vibration, timing belt, faster engine mounting wear .... we Msian are a bunch of complainers, jaguh kampung who are followers, bending with the wind. In short, nothing will please us. We want cheap cheap, good good, last forever barang. Nothing will fully satisfy our big ego, small pocket. Sorry for the rant. Anyways, Proton is now stuck with this 3 pot. IMO, the only way to save it is to go hybrid (like X90) as there is now a gap between ICE & EV. Not everyone can go EV & hybrid is the mid point. That's the only way to save this investment. So from here, I can tell its due to arrogance. They thought they could clear their old parts stock thinking that they will be 2nd behind perodua in Msia for eternal. Mana tau, Madani brought in Cheri, Jaeco, etc. Jag23sys liked this post
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QUOTE(hollyweed @ Oct 23 2024, 04:13 PM) 3 pot is really for fuel saving bro. first and foremost even with 3pot X70 is a blady gas guzzler. x70 because the freaking car is big and heavy. s70 x50 fuel consumption seems not that bad like x70 secondly, wait till ur engine mounting bracket breaks without you knowing, and that will slowly wear down your transmission thirdly, try to drive S70 3 pot engine, its noisy. This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Oct 23 2024, 05:01 PM |
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QUOTE(GGSC27 @ Oct 23 2024, 04:21 PM) Pretty much gave up dy, the reputation absolutely thrashed, no point salvaging further.They’re trying to push for Jaecoo J5 instead, hopefully ppl won’t link it to Wumaoda5. On a serious note, one of mah ex-colleague got Wumaoda5 and after sat in it, it’s a car I won’t even consider be it how much specs it offer or how cheap it is selling at. The front passenger seat is so damn sempit. On top of that the CVT whine when picking up, super scary. This post has been edited by msacras: Oct 23 2024, 05:20 PM |
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QUOTE(ahhann @ Oct 23 2024, 09:25 AM) Maybe can consider those lightweight compact foldable wheelchair? ![]() ahhann liked this post
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 23 2024, 03:49 PM) I dun understand geely's logic. this one, I agree with youmaybe it was too late for X70 but for x50 and x90 and s70, geely should have brought in their 4 pot technology, but stood for the 3 pot ones instead for Proton's Tg Malim CKD line. It just goes to show how selfish they are, just want to push the old stock parts to clear off at proton first. this is what arrogance begets. They thought they could dominate msia market, they didn't think that PMX would have allowed so many China OEMs to come here. Maybe someone boast 3 pot can save fuel, but not make a difference for X70 pun. Some more, 3 cylinder, 2 go up 1 go down...puts unnecessary strain on the toot toot, don't want to say lah. Jag23sys liked this post
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QUOTE(msacras @ Oct 23 2024, 05:19 PM) Pretty much gave up dy, the reputation absolutely thrashed, no point salvaging further. They’re trying to push for Jaecoo J5 instead, hopefully ppl won’t link it to Wumaoda5. On a serious note, one of mah ex-colleague got Wumaoda5 and after sat in it, it’s a car I won’t even consider be it how much specs it offer or how cheap it is selling at. The front passenger seat is so damn sempit. On top of that the CVT whine when picking up, super scary. no joke bro ccp car...soulless. all pretty bling bling from the outside, inside so hollow 0 soul |
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Jaecoo is the marque of Chery actually, infact it is only available outside of China.
Chery have Jaecoo Toyota have Lexus |
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 23 2024, 03:49 PM) I dun understand geely's logic. Do you mean setup another assembly line for the 4 pot engine and pay additional royalties to Geely for the 4 pot engine?maybe it was too late for X70 but for x50 and x90 and s70, geely should have brought in their 4 pot technology, but stood for the 3 pot ones instead for Proton's Tg Malim CKD line. It just goes to show how selfish they are, just want to push the old stock parts to clear off at proton first. this is what arrogance begets. They thought they could dominate msia market, they didn't think that PMX would have allowed so many China OEMs to come here. Maybe someone boast 3 pot can save fuel, but not make a difference for X70 pun. Some more, 3 cylinder, 2 go up 1 go down...puts unnecessary strain on the toot toot, don't want to say lah. You think bring in new engine is free? |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 23 2024, 01:41 PM) My household own few Japanese car from Toyota to Subaru. Most over 10 years of ownership, even tho cheap plastic but never really broken or brittle within even 15 years. FYI, most my rides all park under the sun. Diu. Does it apply to all geely model in malingsia?Try ask X70 how many plastic door handle already broken? Some will claim it is design issue, here n that but in reality a lot cheap/lower range cars the plastics are not design to last long. This is what ex-cherry owners fear as i personally knew 1 after 5 years door panel, handle and a lot of plastic parts can break anytime until he give up and sold it with superglue fix. |
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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 23 2024, 07:35 PM) Do you mean setup another assembly line for the 4 pot engine and pay additional royalties to Geely for the 4 pot engine? hello?You think bring in new engine is free? did you read when I mentioned that when they set up X70 CKD line they realized this ? Why they didn't rectify the decision for 4 pot when they started to set up CKD line for X50, X90 and S70 ???? |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 23 2024, 06:10 PM) not to mentioned axia like handling Most CCP stuffs are like thatno joke bro ccp car...soulless. all pretty bling bling from the outside, inside so hollow 0 soul I rode CCP elevator, looks cool then after few years start to get cranky. suddenly lift button not sensitive anymore sometimes press cannot sense. even access card detection susah. sometimes leave even open at a floor, that one did not press for. |
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How is the price compare to Range rover?
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 23 2024, 01:41 PM) My household own few Japanese car from Toyota to Subaru. Most over 10 years of ownership, even tho cheap plastic but never really broken or brittle within even 15 years. FYI, most my rides all park under the sun. i owned Forester SJ, now x70 for more than 2 yearsTry ask X70 how many plastic door handle already broken? Some will claim it is design issue, here n that but in reality a lot cheap/lower range cars the plastics are not design to last long. This is what ex-cherry owners fear as i personally knew 1 after 5 years door panel, handle and a lot of plastic parts can break anytime until he give up and sold it with superglue fix. x70 better than forester in all aspect lulz. maybe for space forester won |
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J7 PHEV may be the better compromise between EV & ICE
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where increase ? kajang dont see 1 pun
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I like the way it looks, like ciplak range rover
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Heard J7 SA, J7 sell like hot cake, each month has booking 23k++, waiting car need 1-2 years...
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good specs for an affordable price, I think
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Oct 24 2024, 01:37 AM) Depends on your luck, even Proton Saga in the past also a lot of plastic parts start to brittle and break after few years. So i suspect it is due to raw material selection and cost. If want cheap products mostly using high recycle material or too cheap plastics.This post has been edited by littlefire: Oct 24 2024, 09:48 AM |
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 24 2024, 10:06 AM) Most CCP stuffs are like that Sounds like ghost 👻 😝I rode CCP elevator, looks cool then after few years start to get cranky. suddenly lift button not sensitive anymore sometimes press cannot sense. even access card detection susah. sometimes leave even open at a floor, that one did not press for. |
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QUOTE(titanz @ Oct 23 2024, 08:07 PM) Jaecoo is the marque of Chery actually, infact it is only available outside of China. They just change the brand name and logo, original company is still Chery. Chery have Jaecoo Toyota have Lexus Different market different name/taste/design. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chery_Tansuo_06 Chery Tansuo 06 = Jaecoo J7 |
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Design looks good and interior feels luxurious. I'll pick this rather than a Peugeot. For 140k it is cheaper and more tech than my cx5. If i have the extra money I wouldn't mind the low rv and sell it after 5yrs. Unfortunately I can't afford to lose that kind of money as I intend to use my car for 10-15years 😅
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QUOTE(crayzee @ Oct 24 2024, 11:04 AM) Design looks good and interior feels luxurious. I'll pick this rather than a Peugeot. For 140k it is cheaper and more tech than my cx5. If i have the extra money I wouldn't mind the low rv and sell it after 5yrs. Unfortunately I can't afford to lose that kind of money as I intend to use my car for 10-15years 😅 If 10~15 years, mostly also dont have RV already even for Japanese cars. If you care about RV the best to sell is around 5~10 years time as that period, 2nd hand buyers still can get loan easy to change hand. |
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QUOTE(crayzee @ Oct 24 2024, 10:04 AM) Design looks good and interior feels luxurious. I'll pick this rather than a Peugeot. For 140k it is cheaper and more tech than my cx5. If i have the extra money I wouldn't mind the low rv and sell it after 5yrs. Unfortunately I can't afford to lose that kind of money as I intend to use my car for 10-15years 😅 I don't trust China ICE. For that money, get china EV better. Less complicated, not so easy rosak like ICE. gobiomani and max_cavalera liked this post
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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Oct 24 2024, 10:21 AM) i owned Forester SJ, now x70 for more than 2 years If you only care about the design and NVH, x70 win. I also got friends with Forester SJ & X70 at home, X70 1.5T already engine mounting gone (Maybe due to 3 cylinder) at 70~80k, coolant pipe/radiator/fan also change (found leaking) also at around 3~4 years time, plastic door handle also change few times, his Forester until today internal plastics no issues. Only complain for forester is the rear wheel bearing, lower arm bush and cooling coil, the rest like handling, spare part support no issue and his forester already cross 150k still with original engine mountings. I can say got pro & con for each, if you want comfy and modern design just go for x70. If i want to go Genting or somewhere offroad to do camping, i will choose Forester anytime.x70 better than forester in all aspect lulz. maybe for space forester won BTW, if you got free time go see the carlist SUV battle, few years back they took the newer SK Forester, with previous gen CRV and X70 all the SUV do comparison and in the end overall you can see which is the winner. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GBw8xDB2kPI 1 thing i found weird is that the x70 pick up is slow, even my friend also tell me that the Forester is more agile at lower speed compare to x70 especially at city traffic area (Maybe X70 is heavier), x70 only excel when on highway speed or want to overtake. During low speed the DCT really feel it is struggling and not very smooth compare to the CVT Forester. So both engine & transmission does got their pro & con also. This post has been edited by littlefire: Oct 24 2024, 10:31 AM |
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Good job. Less people buying the overated, Conti price for the new CRV. Inb4 nowadays all customer getting smarter until less people buying HM cars
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QUOTE(crayzee @ Oct 24 2024, 10:04 AM) Design looks good and interior feels luxurious. I'll pick this rather than a Peugeot. For 140k it is cheaper and more tech than my cx5. If i have the extra money I wouldn't mind the low rv and sell it after 5yrs. Unfortunately I can't afford to lose that kind of money as I intend to use my car for 10-15years 😅 The bad thing about buying low RV cars is not only limited to low selling price in future. It's the risk of dealers not wanting to makan your car. I experienced it first hand years ago. |
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Oct 24 2024, 11:22 AM) The bad thing about buying low RV cars is not only limited to low selling price in future. It's the risk of dealers not wanting to makan your car. I experienced it first hand years ago. Either low bail or ask you to sell you own. This is norm for very cold car model or no 2nd hand value, unless you go back to the same car brand dealer they will no choice to trade in but in exchange sell you a newer vehicle.This post has been edited by littlefire: Oct 24 2024, 10:25 AM |
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Oct 23 2024, 09:02 AM) The idea of "Japan car good, China car bad" is why Honda can keep selling cars with bad steering rack. Personally banned HM since bought them in 2015. Pay expansive but getting P2 NVH car is totally no no. And dont surprise if saw many HM lickers everywhere This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Oct 24 2024, 10:26 AM gobiomani liked this post
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170k!!!
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QUOTE(ycs @ Oct 24 2024, 11:25 AM) Topup ckit model Y juniper terus 🤣🤣Inside rumour said gonna be equip with bigger and latest battery thats gonna enable 700-800km wltp range |
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all thanks to crv over priced cross under spec x70 over aged basically competing with haval only. Jag23sys liked this post
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 23 2024, 09:42 AM) Each got pro & con Only hate for reliability and repair price for cvt gb. Rm6k starting and some hit rm9k for cvt repair make many car owner thinks it is not affordableDCT good on highway or high-speed driving, but during slow crawling and traffic jam you will feel the gearbox very suffer and not smooth compare to like CVT or AT gearbox. CVT are more better at lower speed and smooth operation, but poor at high-speed/rpm driving. This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Oct 24 2024, 10:33 AM |
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Watch YouTube Omoda C9. Looks great interior wise
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 24 2024, 10:06 AM) If 10~15 years, mostly also dont have RV already even for Japanese cars. You have a point but less established brands lose the most value in 3yrs time while established brands especially japs usually can hold up it's value till 10years mark. 10yrs old honda, Toyota still can get a good price. Try a 10yrs old peugeot, maybe worth 10k only 😅If you care about RV the best to sell is around 5~10 years time as that period, 2nd hand buyers still can get loan easy to change hand. |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 24 2024, 11:33 AM) Only hate for reliability and repair price for cvt gb. Rm6k starting and some hit rm9k for cvt repair make many car owner thinks it is not affordable Depends, if Japanese car you can opt for halfcut gearbox anytime if you felt repairing is expensive. Halfcut gearbox nowadays also got warranty. Compare to China cars, good luck getting halfcut easily if anything serious happen. |
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Oct 24 2024, 11:43 AM) Until today people still think EV no gearbox, bro, EV also got but only single or dual speed the most. They still need lubricant like coolant/fluid to cool down the transmission also, if not taken care it can also damage and cost expensive. https://service.tesla.com/docs/ModelS/Servi...94D6AAF190.html Here is the service manual of the Tesla gearbox fluid change, it also got oil filter like normal car engine but fit on gearbox. If people tell you Tesla got oil filter that is true and not fake. This post has been edited by littlefire: Oct 24 2024, 11:38 AM LDP liked this post
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QUOTE(clement5949 @ Oct 24 2024, 12:39 PM) i used to have corrolla cross hybrid for 2 yrs, its sucks! Toyota Hybrid from previous gen Prius / Prius C also similar concept, just want eco. Lousy NVH is confirm as those are additional weight/cost (Just ask sound proof specialist how heavy those noise insulation pads if put full car). Unless you willing to pay for Lexus level than different.soft suspension, slow acceleration (ok, i know sure got ppl said its a hybrid, it is meant for eco) and lousy NVH |
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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Oct 24 2024, 09:37 AM) And you belip? JeremyLord and Femsroot liked this post
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 24 2024, 10:19 AM) If you only care about the design and NVH, x70 win. I also got friends with Forester SJ & X70 at home, X70 1.5T already engine mounting gone (Maybe due to 3 cylinder) at 70~80k, coolant pipe/radiator/fan also change (found leaking) also at around 3~4 years time, plastic door handle also change few times, his Forester until today internal plastics no issues. Only complain for forester is the rear wheel bearing, lower arm bush and cooling coil, the rest like handling, spare part support no issue and his forester already cross 150k still with original engine mountings. I can say got pro & con for each, if you want comfy and modern design just go for x70. If i want to go Genting or somewhere offroad to do camping, i will choose Forester anytime. well that's the thing with Subaru, they market it as rough SUV, but if you owned one you might wonder whether its truely capable of that or not. Common issue of Subaru SJ here in Malaysia eg wheel bushing (you will be lucky if it hold more than 50k km), CVT solenoid..finger crossed you dont face it. me personally other than the wheel bush, my engine was leaking. luckily it was on the end of warranty period and still able to claim but i still need to fork out money for new O2 sensor and EO..still burned RM1k plus there..BTW, if you got free time go see the carlist SUV battle, few years back they took the newer SK Forester, with previous gen CRV and X70 all the SUV do comparison and in the end overall you can see which is the winner. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GBw8xDB2kPI 1 thing i found weird is that the x70 pick up is slow, even my friend also tell me that the Forester is more agile at lower speed compare to x70 especially at city traffic area (Maybe X70 is heavier), x70 only excel when on highway speed or want to overtake. During low speed the DCT really feel it is struggling and not very smooth compare to the CVT Forester. So both engine & transmission does got their pro & con also. my x70 is the last batch of 1.8T version. for now it works well and no regret so far especially on long road trip.but i personally wont go for the 1.5T 3 cylinder version as well.. |
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QUOTE(crayzee @ Oct 24 2024, 10:04 AM) Design looks good and interior feels luxurious. I'll pick this rather than a Peugeot. For 140k it is cheaper and more tech than my cx5. If i have the extra money I wouldn't mind the low rv and sell it after 5yrs. Unfortunately I can't afford to lose that kind of money as I intend to use my car for 10-15years 😅 thats wat i tot when i bought my cx5. i said i wont sell this car. but 6th yrs start all the shit. mounting, bush ~ this i still can accept. but then engine cranking everytime start engine. fas fas sell cos 2 shops say need open engine to check. |
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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Oct 24 2024, 11:54 AM) thats wat i tot when i bought my cx5. i said i wont sell this car. but 6th yrs start all the shit. mounting, bush ~ this i still can accept. but then engine cranking everytime start engine. fas fas sell cos 2 shops say need open engine to check. most mercedes benz are having the cranking issues after 6 years of ownership. cawan liked this post
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 24 2024, 11:38 AM) Until today people still think EV no gearbox, bro, EV also got but only single or dual speed the most. Yes, got gear and most only have single speed unless talking about high performance ones but the difference is in the complexity and lifetime. And this is a huge difference compared to cheap CVT and DCT which constantly crap out. Hearing about the DCT in the J7 paints a very similar picture to the DCT in the Ford Fiesta which means it will crap out sooner rather than later.They still need lubricant like coolant/fluid to cool down the transmission also, if not taken care it can also damage and cost expensive. https://service.tesla.com/docs/ModelS/Servi...94D6AAF190.html Here is the service manual of the Tesla gearbox fluid change, it also got oil filter like normal car engine but fit on gearbox. If people tell you Tesla got oil filter that is true and not fake. |
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QUOTE(clement5949 @ Oct 24 2024, 11:39 AM) i used to have corrolla cross hybrid for 2 yrs, its sucks! You can consider sealion 6 phev. From the reviews in Aus,NZ and phillipines, the power is more than enough, range about 1200km.soft suspension, slow acceleration (ok, i know sure got ppl said its a hybrid, it is meant for eco) and lousy NVH Plus point, if you can charge at home, literally you can use pure EV. It's EV range can run about 80km which is enough for most people to travel to and fro from work each day. |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 24 2024, 10:25 AM) Either low bail or ask you to sell you own. This is norm for very cold car model or no 2nd hand value, unless you go back to the same car brand dealer they will no choice to trade in but in exchange sell you a newer vehicle. Exactly. Kena lowball is terrible enough. Kena rejected straight away is another thing. |
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im getting it as my second car. cheap and luxury feel. haha why not...
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 24 2024, 09:06 AM) Most CCP stuffs are like that same thing like escalatorsI rode CCP elevator, looks cool then after few years start to get cranky. suddenly lift button not sensitive anymore sometimes press cannot sense. even access card detection susah. sometimes leave even open at a floor, that one did not press for. there is these two malls here in KV , their escalators forever rosak |
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Oct 24 2024, 12:09 PM) Yes, got gear and most only have single speed unless talking about high performance ones but the difference is in the complexity and lifetime. And this is a huge difference compared to cheap CVT and DCT which constantly crap out. Hearing about the DCT in the J7 paints a very similar picture to the DCT in the Ford Fiesta which means it will crap out sooner rather than later. that is shit yoford fiesta such a waste i tell you |
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the interior surely value for money. If you everyday stuck in traffic. Then worth it.
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Need to wait and see the reliability of CCP cars. Design looks nice but reliability is more important. cawan liked this post
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 24 2024, 03:31 PM) china products all hype onlythey never last long one. u can see the mentality of those china fellas working at protong. of course, they do bring in improvement to the co, but just up to a stage only. They all work in silo. otherwise how to explain why S70 came out without apple/google car play? |
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 24 2024, 03:43 PM) china products all hype only CCP punya logic different from ours. ALL SHOW ALL GLITTERS JUST TO ATTRACT PPL TO BUY THEN GGthey never last long one. u can see the mentality of those china fellas working at protong. of course, they do bring in improvement to the co, but just up to a stage only. They all work in silo. otherwise how to explain why S70 came out without apple/google car play? talking about S70 S70 sales kinda slow but not as slow as X90 ( model which I think should not launched here in MY ) cawan liked this post
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 24 2024, 03:44 PM) CCP punya logic different from ours. ALL SHOW ALL GLITTERS JUST TO ATTRACT PPL TO BUY THEN GG true all glitter. talking about S70 S70 sales kinda slow but not as slow as X90 ( model which I think should not launched here in MY ) also another CCP punya work culture is that they tend to value CABLE more important than capability and talent of the workers. U can see at protong, so many frustrated talent have migrated to Jetour, Jaeco, Cheri, etc. Why frustrated? because CCP at protong only promote their own CCP staffs and those very good shoe polisher. Not saying 100% of those who got promoted are good shoe polishers, some are capable, but a few bad apples, leave bad taste to those who worked their asses off for protong, finally made the decision to leave them. I heard from numerous friends who work there, this kind of news. CPURanger liked this post
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 24 2024, 03:48 PM) true all glitter. indeedalso another CCP punya work culture is that they tend to value CABLE more important than capability and talent of the workers. U can see at protong, so many frustrated talent have migrated to Jetour, Jaeco, Cheri, etc. Why frustrated? because CCP at protong only promote their own CCP staffs and those very good shoe polisher. Not saying 100% of those who got promoted are good shoe polishers, some are capable, but a few bad apples, leave bad taste to those who worked their asses off for protong, finally made the decision to leave them. I heard from numerous friends who work there, this kind of news. not to mention that they see us ( anyone that is not CCP ) like we are second,third class citizen imagine these foreigners who cari makan here see us liddat? This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Oct 24 2024, 03:50 PM JeremyLord liked this post
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 24 2024, 03:44 PM) CCP punya logic different from ours. ALL SHOW ALL GLITTERS JUST TO ATTRACT PPL TO BUY THEN GG Sometimes weird why S70 sales poor recently? Foresee because Toyota and HM give cash rebates is one of it. As well as no AA and ACP stocktalking about S70 S70 sales kinda slow but not as slow as X90 ( model which I think should not launched here in MY ) JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 24 2024, 03:50 PM) indeed well I suppose the other foreigners may do that too. not to mention that they see us ( anyone that is not CCP ) like we are second,third class citizen imagine these foreigners who cari makan here see us liddat? But protong is an entirely different matter, it appears to be like 200 over PRC staffs there. they are coming here and taking in simple managerial functions, something like a local malaysian can do. Not those macam engineering and RnD expertise that Protong needs. PRC tend to want to flood the companies they takeover with their own people. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 24 2024, 03:48 PM) true all glitter. This is typical cinapek culture yo... also another CCP punya work culture is that they tend to value CABLE more important than capability and talent of the workers. U can see at protong, so many frustrated talent have migrated to Jetour, Jaeco, Cheri, etc. Why frustrated? because CCP at protong only promote their own CCP staffs and those very good shoe polisher. Not saying 100% of those who got promoted are good shoe polishers, some are capable, but a few bad apples, leave bad taste to those who worked their asses off for protong, finally made the decision to leave them. I heard from numerous friends who work there, this kind of news. ze2 and JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 24 2024, 03:54 PM) Sometimes weird why S70 sales poor recently? Foresee because Toyota and HM give cash rebates is one of it. As well as no AA and ACP stock I dunno the exact reason, but if you compare S70 with Honda City and Vios how much price difference?I heard its like 4k, I don't check it myself, but if this is true, which car you rather want? Also no apple and google car play !!!!! 3 pot? I mean in all due respects its a nice car...B+ sedan a bit more spacious. The speed and pick up not bad. Fuel comsumption..hmmm ok lah. Handling also good, but if not for the noisy 3 pot on the highway. boot space quite big but I wished they did a hatchback version macam the volvo sedan. But but....at that price?? In the old days with Preve so much cheaper, people just go for it. But when your price is so near to Honda and Toyota...I dunno lah. This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Oct 24 2024, 03:59 PM |
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 24 2024, 03:59 PM) Yes...very cringe one...example like, when got event, die2 must give big boss walk on red carpet and ask pretty women staffs stand on both side to clap hands.. ze2 and JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Oct 24 2024, 04:04 PM) Yes...very cringe one... not the PRC fellas. example like, when got event, die2 must give big boss walk on red carpet and ask pretty women staffs stand on both side to clap hands.. they just don't care about all this. just make money until you die. nebula87 liked this post
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 24 2024, 03:58 PM) I dunno the exact reason, but if you compare S70 with Honda City and Vios how much price difference? Both the rival give almost 10% car rebates which for many potential buyer, why not take that rebates, for 10% deposit can get brand new car. If choose car without rebates, need to fork out 10% deposit which for some hard to do. I heard its like 4k, I don't check it myself, but if this is true, which car you rather want? Also no apple and google car play !!!!! 3 pot? I mean in all due respects its a nice car...B+ sedan a bit more spacious. The speed and pick up not bad. Fuel comsumption..hmmm ok lah. Handling also good, but if not for the noisy 3 pot on the highway. boot space quite big but I wished they did a hatchback version macam the volvo sedan. But but....at that price?? In the old days with Preve so much cheaper, people just go for it. But when your price is so near to Honda and Toyota...I dunno lah. Source of rebates, FB group for both model, many SA put rebates + personal SA own rebates. Inb4 payung, smart tag free gift are outdated |
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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Oct 24 2024, 11:54 AM) thats wat i tot when i bought my cx5. i said i wont sell this car. but 6th yrs start all the shit. mounting, bush ~ this i still can accept. but then engine cranking everytime start engine. fas fas sell cos 2 shops say need open engine to check. So just sold my family CX5 which still under that 5 years warranty. After sold, Carro found out this vehicle Odometer was somehow readjusted for some shady warranty claims from Mazda service center. Carro question back us but we can't help much. Mazda and Naza network memang another level lah. |
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QUOTE(loutze @ Oct 24 2024, 04:25 PM) So just sold my family CX5 which still under that 5 years warranty. After sold, Carro found out this vehicle Odometer was somehow readjusted for some shady warranty claims from Mazda service center. How is it possible? Cz every service done at SC, the mileage will be recorded. Past experiences with Carsome, even the car look ok, their sales advisor no idea about the car detail apart from what is written on the ads. Carro question back us but we can't help much. Mazda and Naza network memang another level lah. Test drove bmw 330e, asked SA, if this model already claim how many times battery parts, no idea, got recall for that model,if the car already take that, no idea. |
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 24 2024, 03:44 PM) Ford Fiesta is an awesome car to drive, godly tier handling only bested by Ford Focus among mass market cars. QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 24 2024, 03:46 PM) I still have my Ford Fiesta, 12 years old already keeping as a spare car. Gearbox issues fixed under warranty. I had no aircond problems and the car has been very reliable except for the GB issues which were eventually fixed under warranty and broken door latch issue. Market value very low due to the perception of problems so I just keep for now. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 24 2024, 05:33 PM) How is it possible? Cz every service done at SC, the mileage will be recorded. Past experiences with Carsome, even the car look ok, their sales advisor no idea about the car detail apart from what is written on the ads. This depends on the inspector want to do proper job or not. I help few friends check their used car previous service records as i got friends in Nissan & Mazda SC, just a phone call, msg the car chassis no. they can tell you when the last service and how much km recorded, got any serious claim before.Test drove bmw 330e, asked SA, if this model already claim how many times battery parts, no idea, got recall for that model,if the car already take that, no idea. This post has been edited by littlefire: Oct 24 2024, 05:42 PM hspace liked this post
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 24 2024, 05:40 PM) This depends on the inspector want to do proper job or not. I help few friends check their used car previous service records as i got friends in Nissan & Mazda SC, just a phone call, msg the car chassis no. they can tell you when the last service and how much km recorded, got any serious claim before. Mazda SC readjusted odometer for some additional parts claims (not entirely sure if these are for that SC stocking or helping another CX5). After which they set back odometer to match back recorded mileage when SC receive the car. These warranty parts claims are done behind customers back. hspace liked this post
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QUOTE(loutze @ Oct 24 2024, 04:25 PM) So just sold my family CX5 which still under that 5 years warranty. After sold, Carro found out this vehicle Odometer was somehow readjusted for some shady warranty claims from Mazda service center. Your car mileage already more than 100k km?Carro question back us but we can't help much. Mazda and Naza network memang another level lah. |
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Oct 24 2024, 04:04 PM) Yes...very cringe one... Must address the boss with surname + jung example like, when got event, die2 must give big boss walk on red carpet and ask pretty women staffs stand on both side to clap hands.. Feel good mang nebula87 liked this post
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QUOTE(loutze @ Oct 24 2024, 08:45 PM) Mazda SC readjusted odometer for some additional parts claims (not entirely sure if these are for that SC stocking or helping another CX5). After which they set back odometer to match back recorded mileage when SC receive the car. These warranty parts claims are done behind customers back. If readjust odometer owner should notice, this is very clear/direct modification and SC personal usually dont bother to adjust as usually need outside people to do. Mostly they use other car meter odometer to cheat the warranty claim for another CX5, as usually they only took pictures of the meter odometer partially and not whole car at one time. I believe the inspector check your last service, km & any warranty claim with Mazda SC and found out a lot of claims maybe at the last service. If a lot of claims in near date the parts should be very new and when they inspect the claim parts are not as per claim, mostly your car kena used by SC personal to claim for another car or sell the parts by those people inside. |
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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Oct 24 2024, 12:51 PM) well that's the thing with Subaru, they market it as rough SUV, but if you owned one you might wonder whether its truely capable of that or not. Common issue of Subaru SJ here in Malaysia eg wheel bushing (you will be lucky if it hold more than 50k km), CVT solenoid..finger crossed you dont face it. me personally other than the wheel bush, my engine was leaking. luckily it was on the end of warranty period and still able to claim but i still need to fork out money for new O2 sensor and EO..still burned RM1k plus there.. x70 1.8T 6AT gearbox also got many complaints also. my x70 is the last batch of 1.8T version. for now it works well and no regret so far especially on long road trip.but i personally wont go for the 1.5T 3 cylinder version as well.. My mechanic side already got 2 X70 early batch 6AT gearbox issue, asking my mechanic help to fix. But good thing the early batch is 4-cylinder, compare to latest 3-pot. hspace liked this post
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 08:46 AM) If readjust odometer owner should notice, this is very clear/direct modification and SC personal usually dont bother to adjust as usually need outside people to do. To change the odometer mileage reading is a 10 minutes job using a device, maybe they do this instead of taking other car mileage count. Especially nowadays all with digital reading odometer mileage readingMostly they use other car meter odometer to cheat the warranty claim for another CX5, as usually they only took pictures of the meter odometer partially and not whole car at one time. I believe the inspector check your last service, km & any warranty claim with Mazda SC and found out a lot of claims maybe at the last service. If a lot of claims in near date the parts should be very new and when they inspect the claim parts are not as per claim, mostly your car kena used by SC personal to claim for another car or sell the parts by those people inside. |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 25 2024, 10:32 AM) To change the odometer mileage reading is a 10 minutes job using a device, maybe they do this instead of taking other car mileage count. Especially nowadays all with digital reading odometer mileage reading SC inside usually they dont have the equipment to modify the meter milege, they need to get outsider to come in to do. As this equipment is consider illegal for them and you need pay money for their services, that why usually they wont do it them self and since got so many similar car models in SC why not just take pictures from the meter other similar rides? gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 25 2024, 08:46 AM) If readjust odometer owner should notice, this is very clear/direct modification and SC personal usually dont bother to adjust as usually need outside people to do. SC so noob don't check the mileage in the other modules one meh? Usually each component besides the Instrument Cluster / Odometer also records the mileage one. But don't know how if changing those other modules is also as easy Mostly they use other car meter odometer to cheat the warranty claim for another CX5, as usually they only took pictures of the meter odometer partially and not whole car at one time. I believe the inspector check your last service, km & any warranty claim with Mazda SC and found out a lot of claims maybe at the last service. If a lot of claims in near date the parts should be very new and when they inspect the claim parts are not as per claim, mostly your car kena used by SC personal to claim for another car or sell the parts by those people inside. ![]() gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(derebanz @ Oct 25 2024, 11:50 AM) SC so noob don't check the mileage in the other modules one meh? Usually each component besides the Instrument Cluster / Odometer also records the mileage one. But don't know how if changing those other modules is also as easy I suspect they only took his car meter odo picture to fake claim for others or for their own pocket, coz normal claim procedure usually they just took pictures, so you can just take any similar donors cars & fake claim it but once file claim their system will record down all the history but under his car chassis no. Coz personally i knew Mazda & Nissan SC personnel and even tho they knew many loopholes but modifying owners physical odometer usually they dont do as if get caught they hard to answer.![]() This post has been edited by littlefire: Oct 25 2024, 11:18 AM |
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Oct 24 2024, 04:56 PM) Ford Fiesta is an awesome car to drive, godly tier handling only bested by Ford Focus among mass market cars. yea I test driven it before, very nice drive feel.I still have my Ford Fiesta, 12 years old already keeping as a spare car. Gearbox issues fixed under warranty. I had no aircond problems and the car has been very reliable except for the GB issues which were eventually fixed under warranty and broken door latch issue. Market value very low due to the perception of problems so I just keep for now. My only issue is the rear space, even for Ford Focus, I felt it is too small. |
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 28 2024, 08:11 AM) yea I test driven it before, very nice drive feel. Yeah, they are both quite small due to this is the size that most Europeans prefer. When I was looking for a C segment car later on was also considering the Focus but decided to get the Cerato instead due to size and cheaper price. That was a very good decision coz the Cerato has been very reliable but I later found out that the Focus has many issues.My only issue is the rear space, even for Ford Focus, I felt it is too small. |
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QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Oct 23 2024, 12:21 AM) Jaecoo J7 users are actually around that price range, 150-200k1. Find CX5 too small and crampy 2. Not willing to go for CRV Honda with infamous steering rack issue 3. No like EV 4. Want luxury specs but low price Aside from 7-8 years old CX5 or the CRV, no other alternatives already. X70/X90 vs J7 seems like J7 much better offer. Unless Kia Sportage really comes in around that price range, then got more competition hspace liked this post
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Oct 28 2024, 04:12 PM) Yeah, they are both quite small due to this is the size that most Europeans prefer. When I was looking for a C segment car later on was also considering the Focus but decided to get the Cerato instead due to size and cheaper price. That was a very good decision coz the Cerato has been very reliable but I later found out that the Focus has many issues. Focus was well ahead of its time. I didn't think Europeans prefer small cars, at one point I was driving a big VW passat. |
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 28 2024, 05:11 PM) Focus was well ahead of its time. Sales figures don't lie. Europeans prefer smaller cars due to their small roads and for fuel efficiency. Trucks, large SUVs, D segment cars don't sell as well. All European C segment cars are smaller than Japanese/Korean equivalents.I didn't think Europeans prefer small cars, at one point I was driving a big VW passat. hspace liked this post
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QUOTE(msacras @ Oct 23 2024, 09:19 AM) Newer Honda's are no longer the way to go. Starting to show disappointing quality issues with steering, electronics, brakes. Ask any foreman. Not as many as Continental cars, but increasing. |
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QUOTE(hspace @ Dec 27 2024, 12:28 PM) Newer Honda's are no longer the way to go. Starting to show disappointing quality issues with steering, electronics, brakes. Ask any foreman. Not as many as Continental cars, but increasing. same, bought once, never want to repeat back. NVH just poor even for their most highest price car back then, need to send sound insulation shop if really want to improve it. Nowadays, with steering rack issue, brake juddering, CVT, so I skip for many years to come. My buddies bought brand new CRV Hybrid almost rm200k, the NVH just typical made in Alor Gajah.This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Dec 28 2024, 09:04 AM yhtan, dogbert_chew, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(msacras @ Oct 23 2024, 09:19 AM) Add perodua in the list too hspace liked this post
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Feature wise banyak, best bang for buck.
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I test drove before. Actually prefer the sibling Cherry Tiggo. This Jaecoo outside look nice but the interior, quite cheap material. Tiggo otoh feels better built. My impression la. gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 27 2024, 09:37 PM) I test drove before. Actually prefer the sibling Cherry Tiggo. Most reviewers said the same thing. Jaecoo look nice from the outside but its just a cheap and low quality product. The Haval H6 on the other hand seems to be getting a lot of praises and the Omoda C9 also but this one is more expensive. One thing that we can glean from the sales figures is that if the design looks good, most Malaysians are willing to buy forgetting about RV and reliability.This Jaecoo outside look nice but the interior, quite cheap material. Tiggo otoh feels better built. My impression la. |
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Oct 23 2024, 01:16 AM) QUOTE(@@@@@@@@@@ @ Oct 23 2024, 01:26 AM) - Thieves don't want to steal. the first time i saw it, i was amazed...it does look like a range rover. and affordable one at that, who wouldnt like- Can drive during flood ( 60 cm) - No use CVT - Can cut queue at u turn, coz can drive over road divider and u turn. especially the door handles, copy bulat2 range rover style; flushed door handles and thiefproof...cantek yo |
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Doesn't jaecoo build Range rovers in China ,?
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 27 2024, 09:45 PM) .. if the design looks good, most Malaysians are willing to buy forgetting about RV and reliability. *cough* Bring Manytime to Workshop *cough*(to replace all the parts that will break, before they break, so can say it is "well maintained") This post has been edited by hspace: Dec 28 2024, 03:33 PM |
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Dec 27 2024, 05:37 PM) I test drove before. Actually prefer the sibling Cherry Tiggo. i was same as uThis Jaecoo outside look nice but the interior, quite cheap material. Tiggo otoh feels better built. My impression la. outside wow so nice sure amoi wei test drive n test the interior, only look good in photo, actual feel like plastic toy, handling bad for its suv n ride height tiggo 7 much better in terms of luxury n handling for its price but once tested x70, sorry no match in terms of comfort, handling, etc |
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Jaecoo cherry same holding company? Fruit company will lod customer punya o
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Dec 28 2024, 10:39 PM) i was same as u I test drove Tiggo 8 Pro last year, believe that test model is CBU model. The interior is copy paste Mercedes sold me. Next to try C9 cz many said interior more nicer. From FB, many disappointed cz is book 2wd C9, earliest can get at May/juneoutside wow so nice sure amoi wei test drive n test the interior, only look good in photo, actual feel like plastic toy, handling bad for its suv n ride height tiggo 7 much better in terms of luxury n handling for its price but once tested x70, sorry no match in terms of comfort, handling, etc |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 29 2024, 06:12 AM) I test drove Tiggo 8 Pro last year, believe that test model is CBU model. The interior is copy paste Mercedes sold me. Next to try C9 cz many said interior more nicer. From FB, many disappointed cz is book 2wd C9, earliest can get at May/june bascially u get tiggo 7 or 8 u get benz interior at a quarter of pricejust in the future 5 to 10 years we wont know but for now the tech n luxur cant be beaten acceleration good, but cornering is bad, body roll is worst hspace liked this post
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Jaecoo J8 macam sudah tak mau datang Malaysia... Any insiders?
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QUOTE(malaos @ Jan 21 2025, 09:44 AM) Jaecoo successfully penetrate malaysia market bcoz of "CHEAP" but a lot gadgets & high spec.If J8 will sell more than RM200k or RM300k, it will be no buyer. People will buy entry level of Merc or BMW with that money. Same story of Honda accord which no more on sale. Price is too high. Not practical for Honda keep spare part but very low in sale. So no more new Honda Accord model for Malaysia.. This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 21 2025, 09:53 AM |
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jan 21 2025, 01:50 PM) Jaecoo successfully penetrate malaysia market bcoz of "CHEAP" but a lot gadgets & high spec. But has Jaecoo given up on bringing J8 into Malaysia?If J8 will sell more than RM200k or RM300k, it will be no buyer. People will buy entry level of Merc or BMW with that money. Same story of Honda accord which no more on sale. Price is too high. Not practical for Honda keep spare part but very low in sale. So more new Honda Accord model for Malaysia.. |
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QUOTE(malaos @ Jan 21 2025, 09:52 AM) Since end 2023 (when they said want to sell here) until now 2025; dont see any good news.Some sort they already make market research & know Malaysian mentality. If u have RM300k; u buy Jaecoo or prefer branded atas car? |
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Jan 21 2025, 01:57 PM) Since end 2023 (when they said want to sell here) until now 2025; dont see any good news. How did you come up with 300k when all the estimations before this is way below that?Some sort they already make market research & know Malaysian mentality. If u have RM300k; u buy Jaecoo or prefer branded atas car? |
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i bought T7 back in early Dec 24, test driven J7, T8, X50, X70, CX5 AWD 2.5G Turbo prior to buying.
Dislike J7 due to interior material and only 1 screen to control everything. T7 has a aircond touch panel Love T8, but the 3rd row access is very impractical. Only driver side 2nd row seat can push to the front for passenger entry and exit. Dislike X50 coz it's a bit cramped and no AA or AC Quite like X70 but 3 pot engine noise and vibration is noticeable even on a brand new car(test driven the facelift model). Comfort, ride and handling definitely much better than my T7 CX-5, driving experience is super good. love it so much to the point where i paid the fully refundable booking fee..but wife dislike the rear seat, she claimed it's uncomfortable, but i felt it is ok..my assumption is, she dislike the price tag..HAHA..good thing is, my commitment is much lower, bad thing is, i really can't forget the feeling of how this car drives... |
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QUOTE(malaos @ Jan 21 2025, 10:02 AM) Normally if we bought something; our budget must be above.If I said yr budget just RM200k. But J8 sell for RM250k. Of course, u will said U cant buy it even if u want.. Logic la... Afterall u still need more money for tinted, paint protection & accessories.. So now let say u can buy car up to RM300k budget. Will u buy Jaecoo or more atas car? This post has been edited by khusyairi: Jan 21 2025, 10:11 AM |
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Murah (within the golden range RM 100-150k for M40) and gives RangeRover vibes. Tech actually better in certain areas.
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QUOTE(kopitiamtardx @ Oct 23 2024, 12:17 AM) QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Oct 23 2024, 12:21 AM) Jaecoo J7 users are for this kind of new brand, establish not more then 3 year, with less like 5 model car only. tell me why your are so like desperate to try this Car?1. Find CX5 too small and crampy 2. Not willing to go for CRV Honda with infamous steering rack issue 3. No like EV 4. Want luxury specs but low price why not wait 2nd generation model come, and find out others owner experience. |
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jan 21 2025, 10:58 AM) because that one is dry clutch, and extra gift, its a ford. never known to be last long lol, always got design errors. see their 1.0T engine on youtube The 2.0T engine used in their Mondeo, Focus RS, S-Max also had a design flaw. Now u hardly see any on the road. ayamxxx liked this post
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QUOTE(Skia90 @ Jan 21 2025, 10:06 AM) i bought T7 back in early Dec 24, test driven J7, T8, X50, X70, CX5 AWD 2.5G Turbo prior to buying. All the bestDislike J7 due to interior material and only 1 screen to control everything. T7 has a aircond touch panel Love T8, but the 3rd row access is very impractical. Only driver side 2nd row seat can push to the front for passenger entry and exit. Dislike X50 coz it's a bit cramped and no AA or AC Quite like X70 but 3 pot engine noise and vibration is noticeable even on a brand new car(test driven the facelift model). Comfort, ride and handling definitely much better than my T7 CX-5, driving experience is super good. love it so much to the point where i paid the fully refundable booking fee..but wife dislike the rear seat, she claimed it's uncomfortable, but i felt it is ok..my assumption is, she dislike the price tag..HAHA..good thing is, my commitment is much lower, bad thing is, i really can't forget the feeling of how this car drives... What do u think of your T7's rear where it looks like a stretched Brv? |
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Jan 21 2025, 01:27 PM) because this guy is stupidpreviously as 2nd hand car dealer, now work as proton SA he hate china car like ccp rape his mother and daughter |
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Everytime I see the J7 emblem on the back, I chuckle.
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QUOTE(nabielz @ Jan 21 2025, 03:11 PM) cars expensive here, that is why china cars have buyers..not the best but alot value |
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Still remember the hype of Hyundai Elantra and Kia Cerato, both are due to pricing. If CCP can keep the same pricing strategy for few more generation else they just going to end up like their Kimchi brother.
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QUOTE(bashlyner @ Jan 21 2025, 03:27 PM) Still remember the hype of Hyundai Elantra and Kia Cerato, both are due to pricing. If CCP can keep the same pricing strategy for few more generation else they just going to end up like their Kimchi brother. Aiks, ain't those cars proclaimed Japanese killer by so called "Experts" in Fast and Furious decade ago?Sushi still numba wa'an |
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QUOTE(Skia90 @ Jan 21 2025, 06:06 AM) i bought T7 back in early Dec 24, test driven J7, T8, X50, X70, CX5 AWD 2.5G Turbo prior to buying. agree tat a separate physical air cond control is so damnnnn importantDislike J7 due to interior material and only 1 screen to control everything. T7 has a aircond touch panel Love T8, but the 3rd row access is very impractical. Only driver side 2nd row seat can push to the front for passenger entry and exit. Dislike X50 coz it's a bit cramped and no AA or AC Quite like X70 but 3 pot engine noise and vibration is noticeable even on a brand new car(test driven the facelift model). Comfort, ride and handling definitely much better than my T7 CX-5, driving experience is super good. love it so much to the point where i paid the fully refundable booking fee..but wife dislike the rear seat, she claimed it's uncomfortable, but i felt it is ok..my assumption is, she dislike the price tag..HAHA..good thing is, my commitment is much lower, bad thing is, i really can't forget the feeling of how this car drives... so easy dont need to exit anything on the big screen u can adjust aircond tat u will use everyda while driving so its quite important tiggo 7 body roll is plain bad, pickup is good tho maybe need to install some racing bars to stiffen things up it was tuned for road in china not malaysia at least proton got tune theirs to fit malaysian roads especially genting |
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So cheap until need to buy 2 units.
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Jan 21 2025, 04:53 PM) ppl still buy, u blow? merc also got lemon, u dont complain there? Jag23sys liked this post
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For a small family - currently 2 adults and 1 infant with possible another 1 later. Which one is suitable as a family car? In terms of Interior Cabin Size (after put in Car Seat and all) a) Jaecoo J7 vs Corolla Cross vs X70 vs CRV vs CX5? - aware all marketed as SUV Segment C exception of Cross (probably B i think) but read certain reviews J7 looks big on the outside but rather small interior cabin size? - whether suitable for small family as daily car or not. b) If not Omoda/Jaecoo C9 which definitely be very big exterior and interior (Segment D) however, worried wife won't be able to handle driving such big car especially for mall basement turning and parking. Not worried about maintenance and reselling as this will be as spare car. Into Modern looks, design most importantly space for family albeit at reasonable price. Thanks. |
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QUOTE(radiax @ Feb 4 2025, 07:39 PM) Question: Wait for jaecoo phevFor a small family - currently 2 adults and 1 infant with possible another 1 later. Which one is suitable as a family car? In terms of Interior Cabin Size (after put in Car Seat and all) a) Jaecoo J7 vs Corolla Cross vs X70 vs CRV vs CX5? - aware all marketed as SUV Segment C exception of Cross (probably B i think) but read certain reviews J7 looks big on the outside but rather small interior cabin size? - whether suitable for small family as daily car or not. b) If not Omoda/Jaecoo C9 which definitely be very big exterior and interior (Segment D) however, worried wife won't be able to handle driving such big car especially for mall basement turning and parking. Not worried about maintenance and reselling as this will be as spare car. Into Modern looks, design most importantly space for family albeit at reasonable price. Thanks. Cheaper roadtax, bit smaller but good enough for 3 adults at the back |
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QUOTE(radiax @ Feb 4 2025, 07:39 PM) Question: drove my sister in law's X70, driver experience is okay, but the overall space damn limited.For a small family - currently 2 adults and 1 infant with possible another 1 later. Which one is suitable as a family car? In terms of Interior Cabin Size (after put in Car Seat and all) a) Jaecoo J7 vs Corolla Cross vs X70 vs CRV vs CX5? - aware all marketed as SUV Segment C exception of Cross (probably B i think) but read certain reviews J7 looks big on the outside but rather small interior cabin size? - whether suitable for small family as daily car or not. b) If not Omoda/Jaecoo C9 which definitely be very big exterior and interior (Segment D) however, worried wife won't be able to handle driving such big car especially for mall basement turning and parking. Not worried about maintenance and reselling as this will be as spare car. Into Modern looks, design most importantly space for family albeit at reasonable price. Thanks. back when they had 1 baby already cant fit much in the car. now that they have 2, they keep leaving stuffs at my house. my store room still holding their baby trolley and car seat lol. as for CX5, it's smaller than X70, very nice drive, just that the rear seat is freaking cramped. note: i'm 183. not suitable for infant also. (my cousin own one and complaint) just go for sedan man, or tesla model y. |
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Feb 5 2025, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Feb 5 2025, 07:43 AM) drove my sister in law's X70, driver experience is okay, but the overall space damn limited. yes accurate, the rear leg room for CX5 is cramped. And the rear bonnet space is even small for a "SUV"back when they had 1 baby already cant fit much in the car. now that they have 2, they keep leaving stuffs at my house. my store room still holding their baby trolley and car seat lol. as for CX5, it's smaller than X70, very nice drive, just that the rear seat is freaking cramped. note: i'm 183. not suitable for infant also. (my cousin own one and complaint) just go for sedan man, or tesla model y. |
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Feb 5 2025, 09:17 AM
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Land Rover design that why a lot buyer
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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Feb 5 2025, 03:43 AM) drove my sister in law's X70, driver experience is okay, but the overall space damn limited. u have very high standardsback when they had 1 baby already cant fit much in the car. now that they have 2, they keep leaving stuffs at my house. my store room still holding their baby trolley and car seat lol. as for CX5, it's smaller than X70, very nice drive, just that the rear seat is freaking cramped. note: i'm 183. not suitable for infant also. (my cousin own one and complaint) just go for sedan man, or tesla model y. if x70 driving experience u say okay only, means to impress urself need to buy at least porsche or bmw suv adi n the space is great for small family if really want space and thats the only concern, suggest get mpv any brand will do big boot opening and more seating arragments for future when kids go schooling |
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in terms of :
- interior/rear space (esp with car seat) - fairly comfortable and easy handling for day to day/city rides Between X70 / Jaecoo J7/ CRV / CX5 - which one rather decent? - aware pros and cons for each but most acceptable one? Not into MPV types however. Omoda C9 too massive i suppose - difficult in malls/parking/cramp spaces etc. |
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QUOTE(radiax @ Feb 5 2025, 09:29 AM) in terms of : Most acceptable is CX5.- interior/rear space (esp with car seat) - fairly comfortable and easy handling for day to day/city rides Between X70 / Jaecoo J7/ CRV / CX5 - which one rather decent? - aware pros and cons for each but most acceptable one? Not into MPV types however. Omoda C9 too massive i suppose - difficult in malls/parking/cramp spaces etc. The main con everyone says is less space. Unless your family all fat ass, I don't find it a big issue. |
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look like range rover but drive better than range rover and 3x cheaper who don't want.😅
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Feb 5 2025, 10:00 AM
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last week someone help drop me off, not gonna lie but his Jaecoo does look a lot of space
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many people seem to have the impression there exists a perfect car to tibai this brand that brand but in actuality most of the time all of them have their own flaws and designed for certain type of drivers personally while i lean towards japanese cars, theyre no longer worth/built like theyre used to. so many issues plus really expensive now deswai chinese cars now are making an impact in Malaysia. sure there are setbacks, but people can live with a certain tolerance of setbacks ask those fellas who own those continental cars, they can tell you exactly how it feels. but the difference is they pay alot upfront and still high maintenance at back chinese cars manufacturers targeting the buyers to pay less upfront but high maintenance at back. your pick. Jag23sys liked this post
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fake range rover.. ppl just low keras like ciplak design
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to be fair Jaecoo collaborated wtih Jaguar Land Rover (JLR) on some designs and marketed to give appearance of Affordable Luxury
at a glimpse of Range Rover price and maintenance. For the masses I suppose. 20 years back,I only see RRs being driven by wealthy classes. It is called Innovation by Chery/Jaecoo in marketing. lol. Either way okaylah dont you think? |
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QUOTE(radiax @ Feb 5 2025, 09:29 AM) in terms of : had driven both, own x70 ckd and my family bought CX5 but basic 2.0, for NVH seems x70 better especially at speed higher than 120kmh, like constant 140kmh, this where x70 very queit. If u are bored with black leather, than u will find tiring for black interior + black leather on CX5. CX5 2.0L had better FC than 1.8T CKD x70 especially city drive. But since it is 2.0, expect it to struggling or need to make it work harder at Karak highway, else beli 2.5L or 2.5T (but expect FC much2 higher)- interior/rear space (esp with car seat) - fairly comfortable and easy handling for day to day/city rides Between X70 / Jaecoo J7/ CRV / CX5 - which one rather decent? - aware pros and cons for each but most acceptable one? Not into MPV types however. Omoda C9 too massive i suppose - difficult in malls/parking/cramp spaces etc. Mazda best : free service for 5 years, and if went to a reputable SC, mine is always at https://maps.app.goo.gl/jvyA8tSZhCUqtkda9, everything is smooth especially the warranty claim. The car had claimed tire bearing when the car at 11k km and steering clock spring, so not sure maybe car nowadays always get part k.o before expected mileage? Cons for Mazda, only few SC are ok, rest are just worst, like one in Kajang, told mine bearing sound is normal tyre sound. This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Feb 5 2025, 01:48 PM |
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QUOTE(Bill888 @ Feb 5 2025, 05:51 AM) i doubt this statementj7 does not drive that well for its height and class tats why i test drove n ditch this car but the looks, tech, design is good gobiomani liked this post
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QUOTE(radiax @ Feb 5 2025, 10:31 AM) to be fair Jaecoo collaborated wtih Jaguar Land Rover (JLR) on some designs and marketed to give appearance of Affordable Luxury mcm a lot netizen say x50 bad car, siap claim buyer stupid.at a glimpse of Range Rover price and maintenance. For the masses I suppose. 20 years back,I only see RRs being driven by wealthy classes. It is called Innovation by Chery/Jaecoo in marketing. lol. Either way okaylah dont you think? at the end market show what customer want. not random netizen lol |
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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Feb 5 2025, 10:33 AM) mcm a lot netizen say x50 bad car, siap claim buyer stupid. Buyers only stupid if they make uninformed decisions or follow wat people say.at the end market show what customer want. not random netizen lol If buyers make informed decisions meaning they already know the advantages and disadvantages of their purchase then suka hati duit dia la. |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 5 2025, 10:08 AM) many people seem to have the impression there exists a perfect car to tibai this brand that brand but in actuality most of the time all of them have their own flaws and designed for certain type of drivers ppl here scold me for being supporter of chainah personally while i lean towards japanese cars, theyre no longer worth/built like theyre used to. so many issues plus really expensive now deswai chinese cars now are making an impact in Malaysia. sure there are setbacks, but people can live with a certain tolerance of setbacks ask those fellas who own those continental cars, they can tell you exactly how it feels. but the difference is they pay alot upfront and still high maintenance at back chinese cars manufacturers targeting the buyers to pay less upfront but high maintenance at back. your pick. even chainah cars have their flaws and not yet proven but they bring value and competition, without this prices gone out of control and we get garbage cars at high prices value and competition thats the thing but folks dont get it..maybe just heartache chainah can offer decent product these days lol |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 5 2025, 10:08 AM) many people seem to have the impression there exists a perfect car to tibai this brand that brand but in actuality most of the time all of them have their own flaws and designed for certain type of drivers Bolded part, I did not agree with u. how u know ccp car got expensive maintainance..as most ccp is still new not yet 5 years old. or the spare part price is expensive?. personally while i lean towards japanese cars, theyre no longer worth/built like theyre used to. so many issues plus really expensive now deswai chinese cars now are making an impact in Malaysia. sure there are setbacks, but people can live with a certain tolerance of setbacks ask those fellas who own those continental cars, they can tell you exactly how it feels. but the difference is they pay alot upfront and still high maintenance at back chinese cars manufacturers targeting the buyers to pay less upfront but high maintenance at back. your pick. I now target jaeco. I tot. ccp upkeep cost is like japan only.no? |
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QUOTE(DM52 @ Feb 5 2025, 10:58 AM) Bolded part, I did not agree with u. how u know ccp car got expensive maintainance..as most ccp is still new not yet 5 years old. or the spare part price is expensive?. We already known CCP cars for years already. Bukan baru 1-2 tahun..I now target jaeco. I tot. ccp upkeep cost is like japan only.no? Maintenance & spare part obviously will be expensive compare to Japanese cars. U check la whatever rating or country; Toyota cars will be more reliable. Some car reliability like Innova, Fortuner or Hilux; built like a tank, rarely had any issue except wear & tear item (u can check in their FB group).. In term of stock; confirm la Malaysian spare part shop jual Japanese spare part lebih murah; ada banyak kereta japanese (which also share spare part), stock rolling pun cepat, OEM pun banyak. For CCP cars, harder to get spare part here in Malaysia. This post has been edited by khusyairi: Feb 5 2025, 11:09 AM |
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Feb 5 2025, 10:52 AM) ppl here scold me for being supporter of chainah fukken this, typical fanboys of certain brands apa lagi. they want to be like that frog sitting inside the pot of soon to boil water, then by that time later cars like City/Vios become RM120k then only they know even chainah cars have their flaws and not yet proven but they bring value and competition, without this prices gone out of control and we get garbage cars at high prices value and competition thats the thing but folks dont get it..maybe just heartache chainah can offer decent product these days lol right now chinese cars are offering the value and somehow they take offense at it kek. if japanese can offer back quality + value as in the past, im sure as hell would jump back to that brand QUOTE(DM52 @ Feb 5 2025, 10:58 AM) Bolded part, I did not agree with u. how u know ccp car got expensive maintainance..as most ccp is still new not yet 5 years old. or the spare part price is expensive?. high maintenance could be just the amount of time you spent to upkeep, not just purely cost relatedI now target jaeco. I tot. ccp upkeep cost is like japan only.no? like for example while your car spare parts cheap and widely available, but because you need to frequent into workshop for replacements its still bothersome. This post has been edited by marfccy: Feb 5 2025, 11:14 AM |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 5 2025, 11:11 AM) fukken this, typical fanboys of certain brands apa lagi. they want to be like that frog sitting inside the pot of soon to boil water, then by that time later cars like City/Vios become RM120k then only they know fanatic as this point not even fanboys, when i say price keep going up but everyting else just recycle..these fanatic say because old stuff reliable..hello in other country they get new drive trains and still reliable because its a toyota so what is this..they go quiet or deflect lolright now chinese cars are offering the value and somehow they take offense at it kek. if japanese can offer back quality + value as in the past, im sure as hell would jump back to that brand high maintenance could be just the amount of time you spent to upkeep, not just purely cost related like for example while your car spare parts cheap and widely available, but because you need to frequent into workshop for replacements its still bothersome. and they say chainah cars dumping here..japanese brands the one dumping old unwanted tech here and make a killing in profit lol |
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Feb 5 2025, 11:23 AM) fanatic as this point not even fanboys, when i say price keep going up but everyting else just recycle..these fanatic say because old stuff reliable..hello in other country they get new drive trains and still reliable because its a toyota so what is this..they go quiet or deflect lol they projecting la apa lagi. its just typical business clearing supply parts as usual, its nothing newand they say chainah cars dumping here..japanese brands the one dumping old unwanted tech here and make a killing in profit lol |
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My experience with CCP stuff is that they have a wide range of quality. From super cheap to ultra expensive. You get what you pay for, very apt for them.
So always target those mid to upper mid range kind. Those usually not much problem. Their reputation is ruined due to those super cheap stuff. In contrast, you will never see a Jap product that is super cheap. |
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Feb 5 2025, 11:26 AM) they projecting la apa lagi. its just typical business clearing supply parts as usual, its nothing new thats why best lah for japanese brand here, old things already make money still can be made and sell here not for cheap but for high prices..easy money with fanatics keep buying |
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Feb 5 2025, 11:36 AM) My experience with CCP stuff is that they have a wide range of quality. From super cheap to ultra expensive. You get what you pay for, very apt for them. this, the issue is most people buy the dirt cheap and low quality stuff then expect it to be golden egg in quality, really kenot brainSo always target those mid to upper mid range kind. Those usually not much problem. Their reputation is ruined due to those super cheap stuff. In contrast, you will never see a Jap product that is super cheap. you pay peanuts you get monkeys la apa lagi |
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Feb 5 2025, 09:20 AM) u have very high standards nah my wife hates SUV, but yeah, i do own a bmw. so x70 is really just okay. if x70 driving experience u say okay only, means to impress urself need to buy at least porsche or bmw suv adi n the space is great for small family if really want space and thats the only concern, suggest get mpv any brand will do big boot opening and more seating arragments for future when kids go schooling day to day drive normal forte only. driving experience similar to x70. just okay. small family memang ok, but if frequent traveller, i highly advise against it. ts can afford CRV and CX5, so can skip X70 tbh. |
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Because no other competition
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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Feb 5 2025, 01:40 PM) nah my wife hates SUV, but yeah, i do own a bmw. so x70 is really just okay. long distance travelling is where u can consider suv like crv, cx5 and x70day to day drive normal forte only. driving experience similar to x70. just okay. small family memang ok, but if frequent traveller, i highly advise against it. ts can afford CRV and CX5, so can skip X70 tbh. cannot compare bmw sedan driving dynamics with an suv |
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I want to buy Omoda c9, but the size 4775 x 1920 x 1671 (especially width).
I think I better get J7 instead. 4500 x 1865 x 1680 Bestest if the width is < 1820, since I am not fatfag. Easier to find parking |
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Feb 5 2025, 02:03 PM) I want to buy Omoda c9, but the size 4775 x 1920 x 1671 (especially width). if u stay in places like condo or apartment, better dont get c9 laI think I better get J7 instead. 4500 x 1865 x 1680 Bestest if the width is < 1820, since I am not fatfag. Easier to find parking later hard to turn up ramps n parking ur jiran all ding ur car door |
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1,872 posts Joined: Aug 2006 From: Singapore & KL |
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Feb 5 2025, 07:26 PM
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Feb 5 2025, 07:26 PM
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Feb 5 2025, 07:27 PM
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Feb 5 2025, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Feb 5 2025, 03:26 PM) Malusial parking lot is tool narrow. Worstest than Singapork and Chyna. unless buy those condo got bigger parking lots laNo market for big car, unless you have a driver. if not actually c segment suv ngam adi D segment totatlly not practical for high rise damn hard to turn up n down narrow ramps, then slow slow scared bump |
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Feb 5 2025, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Feb 5 2025, 09:02 PM) unless buy those condo got bigger parking lots la Home is not a problem. My house can park 4 cars insideif not actually c segment suv ngam adi D segment totatlly not practical for high rise damn hard to turn up n down narrow ramps, then slow slow scared bump Only face problem when trying to park outside. Just like parking lot inside a condo. |
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Feb 5 2025, 09:56 PM
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Feb 5 2025, 10:30 PM
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1,861 posts Joined: Dec 2008 From: In The HELL FIRE |
maybe many didn't understand the 7 years warranty , ingat heaven safe.
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Feb 6 2025, 04:12 AM
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Feb 6 2025, 07:00 AM
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Feb 6 2025, 07:28 AM
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Seems it rocked the market a little ehich is good. Time for the rest to wake up.
I’m getting one too soon. |
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Feb 6 2025, 07:33 AM
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im thinking to get Omoda C9, is it good?
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Feb 6 2025, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Feb 6 2025, 08:08 AM) cz Toyota interior same like P2 interior, design as well as material choose (hard plastic) at 60k smallcrab and max_cavalera liked this post
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