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 EPF for Foreigner? WHY?, High Interest Return for them too???

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Leto
post Oct 21 2024, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Oct 20 2024, 09:24 PM)
Singapore collects it from foreign workers too.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 20 2024, 09:50 PM)
Wise decision 💯💯
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QUOTE(acbc @ Oct 20 2024, 09:52 PM)
Good what!

More money for gomen.

If these people kept sending money back, now is time to keep some here. If they retire and no longer wants to work, then can withdraw and balik for good.

If suddenly croak and no takers, gomen untung lor.
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kompeni hiring foreign worker need to contribute epf too?
anavrin
post Oct 21 2024, 11:40 AM

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maybe gov can check tax also?
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post Oct 21 2024, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Leto @ Oct 21 2024, 11:38 AM)
kompeni hiring foreign worker need to contribute epf too?
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just ask my payroll on this, no news yet.

but if looking at how smart the gov, i think it should have to pay too.

they will amend the EPF schedule to cover expat salaried here.
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post Oct 21 2024, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Leto @ Oct 21 2024, 11:38 AM)
kompeni hiring foreign worker need to contribute epf too?
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Yes. I believe if the foreign workers are under the hiring agency, they will pay the EPF based on their salaries. Meaning to say, hiring workers will more expensive from next year.
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post Oct 21 2024, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Oct 20 2024, 10:00 PM)
1 of the most Stupid thread in 2024.
EPF = forced Tax.
If you think EPF is your money, you are still deep sleep.

RM10000 today = Shit in 30 years later.
Just like how RM1000 you go back 30 years ago, you can do so much more.

EPF is just another kind of Tax. or Forced Loan
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So i guess you manage to beat EPF returns over the years based on what u say? Really? Good luck to you
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post Oct 21 2024, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Aftermaths @ Oct 20 2024, 10:11 PM)
Type M boleh pilih masuk zakat or kwsp kan?

Ada masuk ke tak, itu lain cerita.
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aHAHAHAHAHAH can pilih masuk zakat or kwsp
u think zakat is like tabung is it?
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post Oct 21 2024, 11:50 AM

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What you expect from pyramid scheme?
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post Oct 21 2024, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(pokemon @ Oct 21 2024, 12:13 AM)
Overtime is not subject to epf contribution.
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salah
what ever come out in the payslip in taxable and epf tolak also
what ever fall under claim paid outside the payslip is not
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post Oct 21 2024, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Oct 21 2024, 11:50 AM)
salah
what ever come out in the payslip in taxable and epf tolak also
what ever fall under claim paid outside the payslip is not
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Where did you learn overtime is subject to EPF deduction?



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Chrono-Trigger
post Oct 21 2024, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(pokemon @ Oct 21 2024, 12:14 AM)
They can withdraw but can make life difficult for them to withdraw.
They must prove they are retire or no longer be able to work, then can withdraw.
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so it's a form of witholding tax for foreigners.


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post Oct 21 2024, 11:56 AM

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Why not?
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post Oct 21 2024, 11:56 AM

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how EPF works

regular dude has 10k in bank, bank gives them 1% interest

bank sez. get me 100k, i give u 5% interest

dude be like OKEH i ask my friends kongsi kongsi

so now dude has 100k and now enjoy 5% interest, the interest split nicely between friends.

so dudes like eh. can go higher arh?

banks like ok gimme 1 mil i give you 8% interest.

so pakat pakat and get more ppl.

our EPF works similarly. all that EPF money we give out, is "invested" with "good interest".

if foreigners put their money in it's actually GOOD for us as we can get a better interest rate.

also, reminder. a lot of malaysians actually withdraw their EPF. a huge number of malaysians barely have EPF thats meaningful.

if malaysians are actually hurting our interest rates, i actually will welcome angmohs to help fill in the gaps.
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post Oct 21 2024, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Oct 21 2024, 11:24 AM)
Cpf in Singapore only pr have to pay into it. All other foreigners no pay cpf.
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only recently....

20-30 years ago all workers had to contribute CPF...

Tun M quarreled with Singapore because billions of Malaysian money trapped inside CPF Singapore... only sabah sarawak people can withdraw from CPF once they left singapore then.


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post Oct 21 2024, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(exsea @ Oct 21 2024, 11:56 AM)
how EPF works

regular dude has 10k in bank, bank gives them 1% interest

bank sez. get me 100k, i give u 5% interest

dude be like OKEH i ask my friends kongsi kongsi

so now dude has 100k and now enjoy 5% interest, the interest split nicely between friends.

so dudes like eh. can go higher arh?

banks like ok gimme 1 mil i give you 8% interest.

so pakat pakat and get more ppl.

our EPF works similarly. all that EPF money we give out, is "invested" with "good interest".

if foreigners put their money in it's actually GOOD for us as we can get a better interest rate.

also, reminder. a lot of malaysians actually withdraw their EPF. a huge number of malaysians barely have EPF thats meaningful.

if malaysians are actually hurting our interest rates, i actually will welcome angmohs to help fill in the gaps.
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Angmoh can channel most of their salary payout to Singkapoh where there is no need to contribute CPF and lower tier of income tax.

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post Oct 21 2024, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(cfwing @ Oct 21 2024, 11:45 AM)
So i guess you manage to beat EPF returns over the years based on what u say? Really? Good luck to you
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Contribute to EPF = Contribution to Nation. Thats all for me
Nothing to do with my life.

I never plan my life and future around EPF.
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post Oct 21 2024, 12:16 PM

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EPF would have

Bangga 1, bangga 2, bangga 3 account
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post Oct 21 2024, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Oct 21 2024, 11:58 AM)
only recently....

20-30 years ago all workers had to contribute CPF...

Tun M quarreled with Singapore because billions of Malaysian money trapped inside CPF Singapore... only sabah sarawak people can withdraw from CPF once they left singapore then.
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not correct, 20 years ago, before I got PR i worked there, no CPF. after get PR then only start pay into CPF. the recent rule change is that they allow ALL PR to withdraw their CPF once they leave the country. including west malaysia.

before 1995, certain categories of EP holders (basically those earning professional salary level) need (but obviously this wont cover lowest manual labor bangla and maid).

https://leongmunwai.sg/cpf-amendment-bill/#...reign%20workers.
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Oct 21 2024, 12:13 PM)
Contribute to EPF = Contribution to Nation. Thats all for me
Nothing to do with my life.

I never plan my life and future around EPF.
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later once you reach 55 or 60, they change the rule and don't allow whole sum withdrawal, only allow monthly withdrawal like SG, I am sure you will be one of those that KPKB here open thread.

This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Oct 21 2024, 12:31 PM
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post Oct 21 2024, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Leto @ Oct 21 2024, 11:38 AM)
kompeni hiring foreign worker need to contribute epf too?
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Everybody so that people who remains in the country cannot withdraw until they decided to leave the country… the same principles apply to all foreigners working in Singapore
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post Oct 21 2024, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(mewhoyou @ Oct 20 2024, 09:23 PM)
As the title... what's your opinion
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there is no loss to malaysia, no subsidy paid to them, so why not cool2.gif
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