Need a city drive car. Just to market and eating out purpose. Dont need to consider outstation drive. Not too big but reasonable space to carry items at the back with fold down seats. I am a retire, only me & wife.

Considering Ativa and waiting for the launch of Perodua Nexus. Am told Nexus is slightly bigger, may be more suitable. However i do like the height of the Ativa. Welcome comments. Tks!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Oct 12 2024, 11:41 AM

Depends on how much is in yr EPF.
Otherwise, just get used car.

Installment or leasing...can try kinto if want to lease Perodua or Toyota cars. Ativa seems good choice, but if for buying wet stock like fish and meat, rather have proper trunk like sedan car coz of the smell.

This post has been edited by afoka: Oct 12 2024, 12:26 PM

Where do you buy your wet food?

Mine are still fresh upon arriving back home from wet market, there is no smell 😅

SUV or Hatchbacks are fine for groceries, both wet or dry.
In addition, easier to fit bulky items like bicycles.

ativa is fine... go for it

my kid's fren family got 3 ativas... lol...

	Ativa AV	Nexus	WRV S
Price (K)	73	?	90
Length	4065	4310	4060
Width	1710	1770	1780
Height	1635	1615	1576
Wheelbase	2525	2620	2485
Kg	1035	?	1108
Engine	1.0T	1.5NA	1.5NA
HP	97	105	121
Nm	140	138	145
Bootspace (L)	369	452	380
Rims (inches)	16-17	17-18	16-17
Ground clearance	185	210	207

Nexus is definitely priced above Ativa as a full B-segment SUV (with higher ground clearance). Most buyers are actually waiting for the hybrid which is likely to br parked under Toyota badge possibly bringing the price over 100K.

The lower range P2 variants should remain competitive vs other brands like Honda WRV or the ridiculous DOA Hyundai Creta.

Do note that if Nexus comes with NA engine, you lose the addictive low rpm max 140Nm torque from the turbocharged Ativa perfect for city drives.

Also I couldn't get an accurate data for Nexus weight. This is important if the myvi 2nr-ve 1.5NA is used in conjunction with Daihatsu's DCVT that has a max 150Nm rating hence the engine torque cannot exceed 140Nm. Some P2 models using this engine/cvt combo
Myvi 1000kg - power ok
Alza 1150kg - 2 pax ok full load no power
Aruz 1300kg - with ancient 4AT, severely underpowered.

This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Oct 12 2024, 01:38 PM

Thank you all for your replies & suggestions.

Living expenses is not an issue, am very comfortable. I do like new technology, so a used car does not interest me. The winner at the moment for me is actually the X50. However trying to scaldown to something smaller.

Am looking at installment, can afford $1K/month. Wet stock transportation not an issue, as quantity is always small, only me & wife. I always leave wet stock in a small container & wash it when I get home.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Oct 13 2024, 11:45 AM

If i were you i wait for the Nexis.

Price different should not be much maybe around +10k.

This car ticks all my boxes.

Yes I have decided to wait for the Nexis. Very good write up on engine & gb. It may be worth the additonal $10K!

For my choice is easy
I always choose 4 cylinder natural aspect over 3 cylinder+turbo so my choice will be the what nexis?nexus?
Because i don't like 3 cylinder and turbocharger in my personal vehicle.

Since only you and your wife , my self also married and childless, i don't need those instant torque speed from turbocharger etc like people nowadays everything also need in racing mode .

Tqvm for this feedback. Very useful. Am able to make a good study before purchase.

Hahaha....well said. My wife & I are senior citizens, certainly dont have the need for speed. Much more joy playing with grand children....

I do like modern technology but am not going to jump in blindly. Your right its Nexis. I like the 1.5NA engine, regarded bullet proof. The Dcvt is supposed to be much improved in performance & fc. Plesently surprised the cargo space is larger than X50!

Definitely waiting to see what this model has to offer.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Oct 14 2024, 09:51 AM

Really depends on your pocket and also your family/body size.
If got cash and bigger size for sure Nexus is the more better choice. It is also knew as Yaris Cross at oversea and you can google it to see the interior & exterior design. Our local Perodua mostly just modify some minor changes, but it will be very similar.

I would wait for Toyota Yaris Cross aka Nexus brother. Rumours said 4 pot hybrid

This post has been edited by gahpadu: Oct 14 2024, 12:41 PM

Am comfortable up to a $100k. Have been following the Nexis closely on utube mainly. Waiting on release in Malaysia. Will give both Nexis & Ativa a close look before final decision.
However am leaning towards the Nexis. Prefer 4cylinder non turbo engine!

X50 or wait for Nexis. Ativa is already 3 years old "soon" to be facelift.

3 cylinders like in X70 when its new you cant feel much. But after XX thousand KM you can feel it.

Also, Perodua is much more cheaper to maintain in the long run and having more tech in your car can be troublesome and costly to fix too.

The wise choice is. Down to your preferences and need. If you can save, just save and use the money on something else. Like tinted etc

This post has been edited by JON97: Oct 15 2024, 11:46 PM

This is one good advice, bro. Wished someone told me this early on.

Certainly am waiting on the Nexis. If there's a facelift Ativa, good news. I can wait another year before making my choice.

Considering your requirements, why not get an EV? Perfect for town and occasional outstation trips..
I'm retired too and had an Ativa for 18 months... Changed to MG4 in April and can't be happier...
The Ativa is great value but be aware of a few things..
1. Need to get used to waiting 2.5-3 hrs for service
2. Start stop button n dashcam started having problems... Of course replaced under warranty but u have to go through wait times again... Once to report, another time during replacement...looking at the popularity of perodua, maybe qc going down?
3. Started to feel vibration from the 3 pot after 15-16 months.. Will it get worse?
4.Have they settled the windscreen? .. Nightmare to drive behind lorries especially on the Elite... Worried if stone will smash my windscreen...

My Mg4 costs 7-8sen per km vs 16sen for Ativa... Service every 12 months or 24k km, minimal charges, Ativa every 6 months, 10k km..
Range anxiety? Maybe if you make 400km trips very often... I do day trips melaka kl 2-3x per month.... Charge full the night before in my house... Stop at Petronas rnr seremban on the way back, topup 28% to 50% in 10 mins, cost me RM15.... Reach home still got 27%.... Less tired compared to in the Ativa, even wife says so... It's a C segment vs A segment Ativa
Used to drive1800-2000 km per month in Ativa, now 2300-2500km...always finding excuse to drive..
ACC on highway miles better because of the instant torque and will continue even after u come to complete stop.. Ativa ACC disengages below 50kmh...
Instant torque just makes it easier getting out of junctions so perfect around town..
OPD... Nah this one you just have to try.. Easier on the ankles and prolongs your brake pad life.. Don't think I'll ever go back to a car without this..
Many others too...
Of course I miss
1. the higher seating position making getting in and out of the car easier
2. No BSM, front sensors and reverse cam... My Mg4 std don't have but the lux has it

Maybe can wait for Proton EV also..

Anyway, this is my experience... Put aside what you heard from all the Experts about EVs and go talk to real owners... Go for a real test drive
then make your decision.. It will be eye opening..

MG4 over 100K? Thats an additional 30K budget over Ativa AV or over 40% increase. Plenty of other options in that price bracket.

Any idea if P1 or P2 EVs be priced below 100K?
Thinking of getting a small EV with 500km range on the newer LFP batteries used by models like Dolphin. Preferbly with 8 yr battery warranty.

main problem nowadays... want small cannot have range... want range cannot be small...

no doubt p1 n p2 will be competitive...

Tqvm for this highly valuable feedback. Appreciate this very much!

My 1st consideration was MG4, its still in the back burner. The car is a bit low, more sporty like. Wife has great difficulty getting in & out of low cars. So it would be rather cumbersome being the daily runaround. Just on this issue, which is a big one, since it would be everytime we wanted to go out, decided a SUV will be better suited.

Just recently am facing another issue why an EV may not be suitable. Have decided to sell my house to live in a condo & have already booked a beautiful sea view unit. Very often just lockup the house to visit children,one in Singapore & the other in Penang. As such condo dwelling is more suitable for us. Besides I'm really sick of maintaining my garden at present.....
The issue now is home charging. My initial approach to the developer on this matter has not been successful. I understand wall chargers can be installed even in condo's. Presently gathering as much info as I can to approach condo management ones condo is built.

Ativa at the moment ticks all the boxes. Price & height of this vehicle are major factors. The vehicle being narrow makes parking, especially back parking, effordless. Small size yet sufficient space when seats are folded, to carry large items. I am aware of the 3 cyl rattle. For this reason am waiting on the Nexis! Dont really like the start/stop feature, will probably deactivate it.

If I cant istall a home charger at the condo, EV is definately off. Will make by choice between Ativa & Nexis.

BTW how much is regular service & ,major service on MG4? Am also considering the Neta X, which is a bit large for my purpose. This being an SUV suits my requirement.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Oct 20 2024, 11:30 AM

40% extra cost is no problem for me. The question for me is it worth the additional 40%? My requirement will be purely city drive. As such EV may be better!

This will not be an issue for me. I will only use it for city drive, back home for charge. Many times at home the whole day.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Oct 20 2024, 11:22 AM

Here's some SUVs that are EV below between 100-200K

Model	Price (K)
Neta X400	120
Aion Y+	120-136
MG ZX	127
Omoda E5	147
Atto3	150
Leapmotor C10	159
Xpeng G6	165-185
Smart #1	169
Smart #3	175
EX30	189
MX-30	199
Model Y	199

yeah... problem currently there is no small enough ev suv imho... ppl wants it big bc of perceived value and functionality and range...

i want something like the byd seagull... ativa size ev would be nice...

Just chip in... I visited the Byd M6 launch event. The sales told me Atto 3 is running at 130k at present. 2023 Dolphin is 90 ~ 114, only white units left though. Seal dynamic is 150k.

I do agree with you that without a home charger, EV is not really practical.

2026, RM70-90K?
Hopefully with > 50kWh battery by then.

Tq good table.

Yes exactly, I'm also looking for an SUV of that size. I think it will come. Battrey technology is advancing at such great speed, we'll see some very good ones soon.

Yes I got to slove this home charger issue. The good news is wall charger units are being installed at condos. There is still hope.

Apparently below 100K price is possible now. Government has placed 100K celling, protecting local auto industry. Safe & longer range batts are already available.

Altiva is a okay car but it vibrate more compare to x50. Both 3 pot engine but x50 is certainly more refine.

Nexis will only launch at lest 1 year from now if that ever happen.

🙄

2026 you suppose?

Maybe or never, perhaps they will just focus on EV.

Both the cars are in my list. Have tested both, of course the X50 is better with much more to offer. I'm not sure i need all those extras. The Ativa ticks all the boxes.

The 3cyl engine on both the cars is a concern. X50 engine is basically Volvo design. Ativa engine is Toyota. Both my test cars were brand new & such did not display any roughness. I understand the engineering concept on 3cyl engines, hence the vibrtion/roughness in due course of time. Going by my past experience, I have found Japs engines to be a lot more refined.

Hi TS,

Even though u can't charge at your condo you can still charge outside and use that opportunity to spend the time wife your wife. There's a lot of place/mall to hang out while waiting for the car to be charged.

I myself planning to retire early and already decided to buy 2 door coupe for me and my wife. Already used high seating position car (MPV) for more than 10 years so feel kinda boring. Guess human will never be satisfied lol.

This post has been edited by saiga: Oct 26 2024, 11:02 AM

Thats is true, now there are quite a number of charge points in a few places. However I looked at cost factor. Its interesting buying energy from any of these places comes to same cost as petrol. Some even slightly more.
Hear's a breakdown -
1KW energy cost roughly RM1 and yeilds 5KM drive on EV. 1KW home charge cost roughly RM0.55.
RM1 ringgit of Ron95 also dives roughly 5km.

So can see if I was to charge out side, cost it the same as ICE engine. Defeats the purpose of owning EV.

Good luck on your 2door coupe. I've gone through that phase.

a lot more failure points with ice... also oil change costs

but yeah... charge at home same as hybrid... charge outside same as normal ice...

Nexus or Yaris Cross still a decent Car,
In my opinion, just wait for Perodua Malaysia to be launch soon from now ....

I'd pick Nexis over Atva purely on the 4cyl engine. Don't need turbo power for city & 4cyl engine is smoother.

Have decided to wait for Nexis before final decision.

Bro, the DOA hyundai creta year end sale now 95k at sime darby auto. Segment B suv (HRV/corolla cross). 3 years free service. Warranty 300Km. free leather seat n 3M tinted.Better than wrv yet cheaper with electronic parking brake n engine remote start.Korean car reliability comparable with japanese brand. Just the spare part might be hard to find and a bit more expensive. But this car CBU from Indonesia so closer to order the spare part. Go for test drive bro.

Hey tqvm for the info. Sounds a good deal. Will test drive.

Bro.. forget about Nexus, P2 says April 2024 but now few more days to 2025, still no news.
No comments on ATIVA, if u ask me..I'm a proud onwer, u have to test drive it.

Ativa ticks all my boxes. Size,space is perfect. My only concern is the 3cyl engine. In time they become rough. 4cyl is always much smoother! Wear & tear is much higher on turbo than NAs!

Have u decided what car?

ATM Ativa is high on my list. My preference is 4cyl NA. I'm actually in no hurry. Since 2024 is ending, will wait for Nexus and then final decision. Hope Nexus comes in 2025.

☺️Is good that u have this tough, me at first same thinking as u, but then again how rough could it be on Malaysia road.. going genting & Cameron w 5pax is non issues (only back seat w 3pax is suffering 😂)
Turbo is a must for the weight for Ativa, if without turbo still can but no pickuplah.
3cly engine now days is getting more popular as some company try to save the environment:
Kelisa, kenari, Toyota tank, axia, x70, Corolla,
Yes ativa cabin interior plastic is not as good as it seems

Test drive it, run 110kmj , will it be vibrate like hell 😂, will knows by then.

Have fun test drive bro.

Just change engine mounting earlier every 50k, no big deal

Definitely worth it for the power and fc savings

Every 50k engine mounting change 😢 ,I'll cry..
We just helping @SKYjack bro for ideas.. also about P2 Nexus as far I remember P2 did says April 2023 launch sales, but then keep on delay/postpone n no news... (Some issue w Daihatsu/Toyota scandal back then)

Yes ativa save some issue now n then:
Push start button (recalled) (some batch)
Turbo oil stain (under warranty)(1000/10)
Absorber oil leaking (under warranty) (1000/10)
Dashcam keep falling (under warranty) (1000/10)

Ativa fc? Any review

Yaris Cross is here already ?

Missing in Action..

Tks for your feedback. I really value owner feedback as you are already using the car. Pls don't stop,keep it coming as my attention is more on this car now.
I do agree 1liter engine with that size body needs turbo. 1liter NA on this car will be like lembu kereta....hahaha! For me this will be my town run around. So no need to worry about 110speed. I hpoe the cabin plastics don't break easy! Are these expensive to replace. I won't go to SC for replacement, may be can find after market spares!

Hoping for Nexus to show up in Malaysia soon!

Tks bro for your feedback. Much appreciated.

On this list my main concern is turbo oil leak. Turbos are high maintenances equipment. This being a cheap turbo, this issue didn't surprise me. This the reason I'd prefer the 1.5 liter NA. Sufficient power & no high maintenances issues.

I drive balik kampung from Penang to Terengganu, drive within 80-100km/h with hilly terrain sumore, can go 500km with one full tank. But for city driving with lots traffic lights and jam, one tank can go about 400km.

As Jeremy Clarkson said, its all about how we drive. If kaki tekan fc always bad one la.

Show up soon ? In one of Naz video, he mentioned that Perodua had registered the name as it's copyright almost a year ago already. Sampai hari ini habuk pun takde.

Surely they must be fighting over the Yaris Cross on who gets which design.

I think that the Yaris Cross in video looks just nice, unlike other Yaris Cross that has been launched overseas. How come Cambodians got nicer taste than Australians or Brits ? Would you buy the Yaris Cross if it came NA, no turbo, AT & with a largest battery size it can accommodate ?

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Dec 31 2024, 07:24 AM

That's good fc
Yea la all depends the way we drive

Like u said , its been a year already since we heard of the Nexis intro. Last I read was on some scandle at Toyota itself. I'll wait & let them sort it out.

My preference is 4cyl NA. Yaris cross with 1.5 NA is exactly what I want. As the Nexis is a rebadged Yaris Cross is perfect,especially as it would be RM20k cheaper ( only an estimate)!

As u says bro Turbo for city drive might be be necessary for u, but ones in a blue moon if going to G.Hiland /C.Hiland might needs the kick in.
For plastic parts ...m mmm all I could says is not the kind easy break but also is not kinda high quality, just 50/50%. Wait for 1-2yrs will have more OEM parts. Totally agree with u bro SC selling dam expensive for those plastic items.

Also now days mostly all cars with smart lock/alarms/keys/remote... The battery wow wow $3000-400+, if u lucky to use 24months is considered lucky.

Yeah yeah.. been following about this news too.. no any news of Nexis (definitely will be 15-20k cheaper then Yaris cross)
As bro Nas says P2 register the name since 202X , sekarang habuk pun tak jumpa.. 😱

Agreed man, simple 4cyl NA is what the rakyat wants. Look at the sales figures of other models with 4cyl NA, they are at a high compared with CVTs.

I think Toyota has found the secret recipe with Cambodia's Yaris Cross on its looks and now they just have to put inside the Yaris Cross, what the market actually wants. When that is done, it will kill the market one for sure. They already have the goose that lays the golden egg but will they kill the goose to harvest all the eggs at once ? Time will tell.

As modern vehicles demands for higher power, it will require a battery with higher capacity and that involves costs correct ? How is it possible to for modern vehicles that's laden with so many sensors and electronics to use a cheaper lower capacity battery ? IMHO, if unwilling to buy expensive batteries, better to buy old vehicles. If want to buy modern vehicles but still want to use cheap low capacity batteries, then buy new vehicle more often. Either way it's either change batteries or change vehicles. Change vehicles is definately a cheaper option, since batteries are expensive.

Using battery for 2 years isn't considered lucky la, what I would consider lucky is finding a vehicle with an efficient electrical charging system. This does not apply to new vehicles that are under my care since it's out from the showroom.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Dec 31 2024, 10:24 AM

After 1&1/2 year wait, i had enough of the Nexus. 2 weeks ago booked the new X50. Great performance & size. Completely sold on the digital displays.
I had a good discussion about the Nexus on FB. Concluded with the influx of the many chinese cars, Nexus may not come to Malaysia. Its going to be overpriced with outdated interior. Chinese models are changing this dynamic! The instrument displays are so very advanced.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Aug 14 2025, 10:00 AM

indon got rite

Congrats.

Nexis now eta year end but look at the fascia..


Compared to new X50, which looks miles more modern

With the exception of the steering wheel, I actually prefer the toyota interior. Absolutely dislike the handphone display of the new x50.

If Indon got why delay in Malaysia? Something fishy!

Exactly, looks very outdated. 1st look at the X50 interior, I dropped the idea of Nexus. Now actually glad the Nexus is delayed, cos I would have booked that & missed this new X50!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Aug 27 2025, 10:07 AM

Toyota has captured the market on reliability. Ppl will close eyes to buy Toyota for reliability. They are not bothered to compete on any aspect, their cars will always sell.

Different people, different preference.

Right, my dad land cruiser prado and my mom camry acv30 still strong, less problematic even though already 20 years plus, very reliable car plus well maintained since day one