just started my practical class yesterday and find it not easy as i thought, hence plan on getting a used bike for training.

here some of my background
- went straight to Bfull
- zero bike experience, only ride scooter few times only and its fun.
- planning on 650cc adventure touring, thats why take Bfull

suzuki rg110 manual clutch? or yamaha ss2 110 racing spirit also manual clutch...old bike but ez for u to learn..

LC135 5speed, below 2k can get

if you're really planning to take 650 adventure touring bike then i'd recommend to get any full fairing/naked bike you can for now

i started my first bike with Pulsar RS200 and its quite fun to learn cornering with whole body, etc

plus modern bikes now would have riding modes + all other bells and whistles so can adjust throttle responsiveness, etc

good luck and all the best!

a used dominar will save your wallet for the next upgrade and taught you to be a better rider

go get the heaviest and cheapest used bike you can lay your hand on and ride/trash the hell out of it. it is painful but big confidence booster.

or like me, get a FZ150i, ride the hell out of it.. adv touring on it until you get bored then retire it to motor pasar and upgrade to big bike. 600cc will be "bah!"....no syok... get >800cc depending on budget.

This post has been edited by harryleesbr: Oct 7 2024, 09:09 PM

between dominar D400 and CFmoto 250nk.
which one is better beginner bike?
service maintenance and parts?

I would go for the fz if you just need a clutch bike. But as you are going for B full and with aspirations of a big bike, the a Dominar is a plausible route.

I went with the Dominar. I never did have problems with a clutched bike but the heavier and bigger Dominar did help me get used to a bigger bike. Helps you build confidence. Sailed through the test as the z650 test bike was an easier bike to ride.

Plus maintenance is cheap and has proved to be quite robust. I have 70k on mine in 3 years before upgrading to a 800NK. Just look for the older v1 facelift like the one I have (the one with the black engine cases and gold wheels). They seem to be more reliable than the V2/UG the Dominar is half decent for longer journeys with luggage, a smaller rear sprocket, some handle bar risers. Just don't expect to cruise all day above 130. The bike is fine, just that it gets buzzy after 140 and you get numb wrists from the vibs on rides over 1hr.

The good thing about the Dominar is that you can still use it as a daily bike even after you get your preferred touring bike, let's face it, not everyone wants to ride a 200+ kg tall adventure tourer in KL traffic.

The v1 facelift fork leaking can be solved?
What are the other thing that need to look out when buying used bike.

Done some survey imotor price seem pretty cheap.

The fork issue can be solved with aftermarket seals. But it's the luck of the owner.

I ride mine hard, off road, jumps and after 70k the stock seals are still good. I wonder if the fork seals issue affect little ridden bikes. It's due for a fork service anyway.

You can pick up a v1 starting around 4-5k. Final edition v1 may have racks and 3 cases included as clearance discount..


As for what to look for. Obvious accident damage and bad owner done wiring. Beyond that mine held up pretty well until 60k when general wear and tear items came up due for replacements. My VC was still good at 60k. Stock chain lasts about 20k. Spark plugs 30k. Although by 25k, the worn out plugs sometimes can cause random stalling and difficulty starting. My clutch lasted 60k. Same with brake pads and my wheel bearings. It's due for new headstock bearings and front fork service with new seals.

If you need to know more about the Dominar, you can read through the pulsar/dominar forum page here. The specialist mechanic (in puchong putri) that work on these bikes is there also.

It's not the easiest bike to get started on, as low speed handling is a bit more difficult as it has a long wheelbase and is slightly top heavy with a full tank of gas, but it pays dividends when time to upgrade to a bigger, heavier bike.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Oct 9 2024, 08:18 AM

thanks, will look for it. usually how much should i prepare for repair and servicing after used bike purchase

Depends on the mileage and condition of the bike.

Chain and sprocket set + labour should be about 350. About the same for a new clutch and the same for front end rebuild with new bearings and seals. Other items are all under 100.

It's not an expensive bike to upkeep.

You might also try to contact Jay at vi-motorwerks and see if he knows someone that wants to sell their dominar.

I am considering selling mine but I think you will be able to find better lower mileage examples in the market. I'm more than happy to keep mine as a spare bike ATM.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Oct 9 2024, 08:28 AM

Thanks. Will look for him. Very near my house only

V1 is better than V2? Both are different by 3k

V2/UG engine seems to have a bit more issues. They upgraded the engine to twincam for the V2/UG. Supposedly makes 5more HP, but about 500rpm higher in the rev range. Given the thumper design, you really don't want to rev the engine higher due to the vibration. According to Jay, he finds the V2/UG running rougher and noisier.

The UG does have upgraded front suspension and slightly better brakes and with the inclusion of a gear indicator and slightly nicer mirrors. Otherwise there is not much between them.

I'm a sucker for Matt black and gold wheels... So I never quite looked at the UG.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Oct 9 2024, 03:34 PM

FZ150 no question
If you want a newer bike can go for MT15 also

Clutch kapcai you're looking at exclusively two strokes unless you can somehow find a LC5S. Running an older Suzuki may lead you to spare part availability issues unless you intend to buy the new Raider.

This post has been edited by iambryan1234: Oct 10 2024, 06:06 PM

Between Mt 15 and cfmoto 250nk. Which would you recommend?

Heard that single cylinder vibration is pretty damn bad especially the dominar 400

CFMOTO a bit risky, considering M-Force's shit aftersales service. A certain Chinese bike manufacturer not under them gets much better aftersales support than even existing SYM owners. There's a couple of people complaining here about their warranty claim issues already.

MT15 very gooding as a daily commuter as long as you don't try to ride it like a 250cc ptwin, but second hand first gen models are still going for around 6-7k, a bit pricier. Don't expect to carry pillion comfortably also.

A used Yamaha FZ or RS150 can be had for around 3-4k, if you're lucky you can even score a SYM VF3i for 3.5k. From there you see you want to upgrade or not after riding for 6m to 1y.

Talking about vibration, you're riding single cylinder bikes, vibration will definitely be there because of big explosion. Cannot escape completely.

This post has been edited by iambryan1234: Oct 12 2024, 09:38 PM

That's a waste. A used 250nk price is around used Mt15 price.
Guess my only choice is fz150i. Which years fz150 I should get? Did some research 2017-2018 fz have some minor upgrades.

Ideally you want to get those, but anything from 2014 onwards should work fine too.

i would go with a kawasaki z400, it has more power than a Dominar, 2 cylinder, weigh less than a dominar,, fuel efficient, easy around traffic, one that will last you longer and less headache, parts are abundant. Build quality is amazing, it is a kawasaki, unlike Yamaha or Dominar. By the time you decide to upgrade, this will be your second bike. if you decide to sell, easy to sell off

This post has been edited by Avex: Oct 19 2024, 09:28 AM