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wkc5657
post Sep 6 2024, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 6 2024, 03:49 PM)
May i know which high VI oils are you using? How much is it?

Reason why im going hipro oils.
1) A lot of good reviews on they oils especially the motorcycle oils at Bangladesh market. The environment there are even harsher and dustier than here.
2) hipro got organize and sponser races track days with their oils.
3) hipro honest with me so far. I asked them if their maxclyn oil have certain specs that has in the Bangladesh market (example a3 b4 spec), but not written in malaysia market. Hipro told me dont have, and they will inform related parties about it.
4) cheap. Hipro fully maxclyn is only rm62.50. their best is V9 but much more expensive at rm128. Still cheaper than branded fully.

I heard about motion but did not research on it though. U found anythg interesting about this oil?
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mobil1 green bottle series...depends on offer, usually less than rm200

syntium 7000 dme - rm170 before shopee vouchers

but those are all thin oils that is not fit for your car sweat.gif

the motion brand have flagship range that touts pao+ester blend....intrigued me a bit because of the cost of it....more than 200 for 4L.....

on the other hand, thicker oils blended well are by nature less volatile...
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post Sep 6 2024, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Sep 6 2024, 04:03 PM)
mobil1 green bottle series...depends on offer, usually less than rm200

syntium 7000 dme - rm170 before shopee vouchers

but those are all thin oils that is not fit for your car  sweat.gif

the motion brand have flagship range that touts pao+ester blend....intrigued me a bit because of the cost of it....more than 200 for 4L.....

on the other hand, thicker oils blended well are by nature less volatile...
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Yeah i cant use yours as mine shld use w30 or 40 only. My engine oil specs quite lenient requiring only SM spec.. as my engine is old tech. More than 20 years old..

Motion brands seems like the typical proxy brand like bold, bolt, mizu... Abit red flag, they are selling motion brand oil filters and osk oil filters at rm5.90 per piece. I dont trust any filters so cheap as its most probably fakes.. my filters i usually buy bosch oil filters.
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post Sep 7 2024, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Sep 6 2024, 10:48 AM)
i don't pamper the throttle, use manual gear shift all the time, don't drive in a leisurely manner, highway average 140, mixed city/highway...

side note, can search in shopee for Fram Tough Guard oil filter series, same price as mazda original (cheaper with shopee coupons/offers), but i personally think this is better quality as it is rated for higher mileage.

depends on luck, the engine top covers gasket seal isn't the best of quality, so may have a bit of oil leakage over time...mine started leaking since year 2 and i thought it was the usual mild oil consumption and didn't claim warranty. Do get it checked first if you notice got oil consumption. I changed mine 5 years back, the new batch seems to be pretty good, no signs of leaks till now

the engine is pretty tough, i had experience a blown vvt gasket (damn bad luck for me, that the SC said my car was the very first among their many thousand of skyactive series sold) and drove a short period of time under oil starvation, was surprised that no overheating and no oil consumption issue after that incident....
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I got my car 4 months ago used so I did a major service changing spark plugs, filters and all fluids. Additionally I changed the valve cover gasket but unfortunately it's leaking again but I'll claim it from the shop I repaired my car in.So far not much issues but gearbox is jerking a bit when the car is cold other than that no major issues *touchwood*
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post Sep 7 2024, 10:11 PM

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I used Petron Blaze Racing SAE 5W 40 (fully synthetic) since my friend has a workshop attached to the Petron petrol station...

So far, ok la...

I buy at Petron Laz Mall (cheaper than petrol station), save RM 25 ++
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post Sep 8 2024, 12:23 AM

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chocolate oil

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT4xDuy2rLg
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post Sep 8 2024, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 6 2024, 02:08 PM)
Use cheap api certified fully synthetic oil like Bold fully. Its only like rm55 for 4L..
Always change your oil max 1 year even if u use it very less. Anyway cars that are underutilized like yours will have reduced lifetime..
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Is Bold available on Lazada? I've seen some American brands around RM50, will check on API cert.

Can you explain what you mean by reduced time lifetime?

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post Sep 8 2024, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Sep 8 2024, 10:42 AM)
Is Bold available on Lazada? I've seen some American brands around RM50, will check on API cert.

Can you explain what you mean by reduced time lifetime?
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I bought it at shopee but i think shld be available in lazada too.

Few potential problems.

Anything that is moving might seize up due to corrosion and rust. Example your brakes and rotors.

Fuel pump might seize.

Battery might go flat.

Tires might have flat spots.

Internals like the oil in the piston and cylinder walls might totally become dry. More damage when start up again.

Your car might attract rodents.

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post Sep 8 2024, 12:16 PM

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My almera 20k and 2 years did not service still running fine.
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post Sep 8 2024, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 8 2024, 12:16 PM)
My almera 20k and 2 years did not service still running fine.
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bro thats fucked up

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post Sep 8 2024, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(h0riz0nLine @ Sep 8 2024, 12:20 PM)
bro thats fucked up
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How is that f up? Everything still running fine and I drive it daily.

Engine still smooth.

Japan engine is very reliable these days.
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post Sep 8 2024, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 8 2024, 12:24 PM)
How is that f up? Everything still running fine and I drive it daily.

Engine still smooth.

Japan engine is very reliable these days.
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Wow.

Up to u lah.

It’s your car.

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post Sep 8 2024, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 8 2024, 12:16 PM)
My almera 20k and 2 years did not service still running fine.
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Bruh.. its very bad for your car. Very bad.
Sure it can still run, but your engine interval will be very dirty and wear out very fast.

Please read up on engine maintenance.
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post Sep 8 2024, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 8 2024, 05:16 AM)
My almera 20k and 2 years did not service still running fine.
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sure it will run fine until it stop. Then instead of cheap maintainence, you may have to pay expensive overhaul. I know of a friend like that. Individual's choice.

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post Sep 9 2024, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 8 2024, 01:01 PM)
Bruh.. its very bad for your car. Very bad.
Sure it can still run, but your engine interval will be very dirty and wear out very fast.

Please read up on engine maintenance.
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Ok. Then I better call tan chong to make appointment for servicing
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post Sep 9 2024, 03:12 AM

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with city+spirited driving we should be changing oil at 7k km max. especially on modern engines. if the oil temp and pres are within range during high rev driving after 4k old then the current oil should be stable enough. keep monitoring it up to 7k km. most oil(even some expensive ones) breakdown after being driven hard, with high temp making them lose viscosity, plus our high heat weather stretching 30 weight oil thin before 5k old.
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post Sep 9 2024, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(fuzagi @ Sep 9 2024, 03:12 AM)
with city+spirited driving we should be changing oil at 7k km max. especially on modern engines. if the oil temp and pres are within range during high rev driving after 4k old then the current oil should be stable enough. keep monitoring it up to 7k km. most oil(even some expensive ones) breakdown after being driven hard, with high temp making them lose viscosity, plus our high heat weather stretching 30 weight oil thin before 5k old.
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Just installed lufi meter in my car will need to monitor on my next genting drive. What is the highest oil temp the engine can withstand?Or what is the ideal engine oil temp?
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post Sep 9 2024, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Sep 6 2024, 02:59 PM)
Besides from the lub itself, oil filtering system also another concern. Continentals oil filter usually are larger/longer in size compare to Japanese rides thus they can filter the oil at a longer intervals. Japanese cars if you look at most like Honda/Mazda/Toyota all oil filter size almost 50% smaller compare to conti's oil filter, how you expect the oil to last longer in Japs ride?
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Among the engine lub and oil filter, the engine lub play more important role. Fully synthetic from premium brand can anytime use more than 10k km even for Japanese car. I worked in automotive industry for over a decade and can assure not much issue on the oil filter that will cause need of change the engine lub before 10k km for fully synthetic. Even if we using the counterfeit engine lub, it will take at least 20k km or 30k km (2 or 3 times change of counterfeit engine lub) only it start giving bad symptom like louder engine noise, less smooth of driving etc. By 50k km onward the damage will get worsening and more apparent.
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post Sep 9 2024, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 9 2024, 02:31 AM)
Ok. Then I better call tan chong to make appointment for servicing
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if you're still under warranty period, your warranty cover is absolutely screwed
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post Sep 9 2024, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Sep 9 2024, 11:56 AM)
if you're still under warranty period, your warranty cover is absolutely screwed
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Car already more than 10 years, warranty over d.

but lately feeling the car feeling a bit sluggish and gear change not so smooth.
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post Sep 9 2024, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Pratish153 @ Sep 9 2024, 10:01 AM)
Just installed lufi meter in my car will need to monitor on my next genting drive. What is the highest oil temp the engine can withstand?Or what is the ideal engine oil temp?
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different car different ideal temperature.....ideally should at least be above 110C when at operating temperature to evaporate the water content during combustion

maximum try not to go above 150C

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