Halu k/ can help me decide wether to hire pro for defect inspections or can just DIY for a 1000 sqft condo. Upon initial inspection the house macam not too bad only got minor cosmetics defects.

I've checked(from videos only) the cost is varying from rm300-1000. if it's <500 I would just rather pay experts to do it.

last time my siter house cost rm800 for a semi D iirc, this was 10 years ago. but the house memang got lots of defects so we are bring the case to court since the developers taichi here and there only on fixing it. upon checking the house got big major defects where some house even tak cukup size, so the developer kana pay a big sum of money to those who brought it to court.

also if got contact for penang area also can recommend. thanks

Listen to unker...get someone to check for u. It's cheap only 200-400rm. Dont bodo.

noobs only see cosmetics, pros will check things u can't see also

Hollow tiles, dinding senget, plug wiring inverted, leaking from above toilet, leaking water near DB Box, wrong current for plug,
Crack here and there, bad paint job.

Those are some of the things found in my condo

If you have time and minor technical knowledge, then can do ownself.

most important, check bathroom plumbing for leaks, ponding test

small unit can just DIY la.

additional thing you should check is water ponding in your bathroom, kasi close the drain, then fill it up with 2-3 cm water, leave for 1 day. if you ask conractor to do any renovation, usually can just ask them to do for you.

This type of money shouldn't be saved. With a 3rd party inspection report, it's easier to get things done imo.

Remember to check the kitchen wall for "verticalness". An aunt discovered her kitchen wall surface was not totally vertical when installing kitchen cabinet.

If found slanting, how to adjust? Cement?

If below 500 then better just pay I think as they would definetly find more defects as compared to me.

Because my sister case initial I help her inspect only found minor and few major defect only. like cracked skim coat, uneven paints few hollow tiles. But since the developers(quite big famous) taichi here and there, fix like using kaki only as the problem keep recurring few home owners called building inspectors as they want to bring the case to court. Upon inspections got a lot of big major defects involving walls, roof, foundation, windows. End up the home owners got compensation for NDA ranging from 100 - 200k depending on the severity of the defects.

Last time I pay ppl to inspect defect. RM450 I think. The inspection work was done professionally with labeling of defect area, report and they help to fill in defect sheet. I really like it.

But once I submitted the report to developer, that’s where another story comes about. The developer spent a month rectifying what I submitted but at the end not 100% of what I submitted has been rectified. They just handed the key back to me and say it’s all done. They removed all the sticker and label and claimed it was rectified. At the end the tiles still got hollow sound and what not. But to be fair some of the basic stuff they did rectify. But the uneven surface, etc all they just didn’t do anything about it. After a few ding dong with developer, I also lazy.

My advice is this. If you’re going to renovate your house immediately after you get your keys, you might as well get your contractor to help you submit defect report to management. Cause once contractor remove those built in carpentry work, that’s where you’ll see a tonne of other defect. So fix your defect as you renovate your house. If you renovate 5 years down the road then be prepare to spend extra to fix those defects.

No need.... stay inside start from day 1.
Everyday you'll know what's wrong with anything.

You dont need a outsider pro to tell you what's wrong with your house.

Yes sure got more members agreed with this.
The 500stickers that inspector posted, i guess only 5-8stickers developer will entertain you.

Another tip is see group chat got a lot complain or not, if not much then no need to proceed lar.

This post has been edited by submergedx: Sep 2 2024, 10:35 AM

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below 500 sounds like ok if done professionally

Hire professional to check better la. Don’t skimp on this.

Pipe leaking especially from inside the wall not easy to check urself unless it is very obvious. If your above unit no ppl stay also hard to check whether their pipe is leaking onot.

From my experience you might wanna check your drain. Be it bathroom or balcony. Stress test them see whether the water will drain out fast enough or not.

Haha somewhat true also

Pipe leaking is destiny one.

My downstair neighbour stay more than 3years then suddenly got multiple spots leak from upstairs, i go kepo upstairs dont have any renovation also.

DLP passed few months ago.
Developer unwilling to entertain, checked with leaking expert quotation RM3k.

No matter how cautious you check, the leak will come any day.

Hack and apply new cement plaster + tiles (where applicable).

Better than not checking and realising it after you moved in.

lol true also, sooner or later sure leak one for condo

but should do water ponding la, kalau leak ask developer to do can save 3k for the first few years.

I didn't know that there is such profession. Is there any class or license that available for it?

can try https://www.hdi-ventures.com/.

around 200-300 for 1k SF.

Yea, that's why move in asap and make use of it everyday. You walk though the wall if it's uneven then you know it's an issue.
You stay and walk on the floor everyday and you'll feel the hallow/uneven tiles, then you report it ASAP to management.

and TS, remember to track your conversation record via email. Some developer very good at wash hand.

I'm a trained architect and has been in this field for over 20 years. I don't practice as much as I used to nowadays, but even with my exposure, I still miss a thing or two, especially when involving accessing roof areas.

My suggestion is to pay professionals to do it for you because:

1. They have better visual vocabulary in detecting problems
2. They have experience in comparing issues between hundreds of buildings
3. They tend to know the standard practice in Msia, so they know where most builders cut costs.
4. Not only they're able to detect existing problems, they can also detect potential problems in the future.
5. They're willing to access places (in the building) that you can't.
6. They have the time to do it.

doktor youtube kan ada

There are degrees and diplomas for it. You can take architectural/building science or technologies, building construction or surveying courses.

Almost all unis offering built environment courses would offer them.

Is there any info on how to attend these courses? Online course available? I try to success then give /k/ 10% discount in the future

Yeah my past experience helping my sister deal with developers the sure ignore some of your complaints as most will just malas and just live with the defects. if minor one i dont really mid also.

Sendiri check
Ask neighbour
Setel

ask around with friends or contractors mesti they can do it for you..
pay them a meal or reimburse them petrol and toll money..
i always do for friends and relatives

Apply through UPU for IPTAs, or apply directly at IPTSs.

I'm not aware of any short-courses that you can do online for building inspectors.

You still don't think getting the developer to rectify before you move in is a better idea than having to endure the repair after you've moved in? All this trouble to save a few hundred bucks of inspection fee?

looking for penang area bro, saw that they're based in selangor. but thank you for the suggestion.

alot of them are past reno workers

do this as side income

quite easy job using the right tools

check wall, tiles, leaking, cracks etc

They're generally around 300 for inspection, for a more thorough process, i.e. report defect, follow up inspections, it's slightly more than that. I can't remember how much.

But it is worth the fees, as these are the individuals familiar with the process (especially knowing what is defective), might as well let them be the judge.

DIY saja.
Just go watch tutorial at youtube.

My house has solid quality delivery. I went in myself stay for a few days then i ask developer to fix what are the defect i found.

Im not trying to save bucks, as saw neighbour posted in group chat they got tons of stickers but 90% of them are not getting fixed. What's the point hiring then.

In the end depend on how developer try to entertain you.

Ceh, earlier you said move in. Meaning all your barang2 fully shifted to new house, house fully cleaned...

500k to buy the cow
500 to buy the tali
Just buy it already
Kekwa

u got point also. if sticker banyak but developer dont fix, no point unless willingly hire own contractor fix it

Like others have mentioned, getting pros to inspect the unit is one thing.

Whether the developer want to fix everything with sticker is another matter.

Ya understand that getting the house inspected does not guarantees the developer will even entertain and repairs all the defect.

But IMO opinion atleast incase if the developer really do some nasty/irresponsible thing to cut cost that can affect the house in the long run than might as well have evidence of it so that you can bring it to court and fight for your right.

My sister case mmg developer cut corners on lots of places, using different lower quality materials, so brought the case to court and only then the developer really layan all the complainst and ask to do settlement outside of court. She spend 10k+- on lawyers and the inspectors but then get 150k of settlements. Too bad the inspectors died already of heart attack, the guy gave really good advice on how to move forwards with the case.

If it only minor defects only than okay lor just tahan sakit hati if developer buat tatau.

my defect inpector only RM230 incl SST (6%)

quite extensive report.
no need mahal mahal.

I would side on hiring a reputable inspector, at least can check electric/water/early signs of defect, contractor honor the fix is between you and them and maybe a lawyer

eh cheap, report with photos? the cheapes quo I got is rm260 major defects only and no photos, rm310 with photos. minor & major defects is 370 without and 560 with photos.

cover north or not

Can explain to me what is water ponding?

lol
That one sounds like very shady developer.

Defects can claim up to 150k? but why? Developer refuse to fix within DLP period?
Lower quality materials this is quite grey area because spec sheet didnt specific on grade quality but only material type, who knows they use YTL cement or low grade China cement.

Remember MCO time that Tropicana uncle with hammer? If really concern about the product yeaaa suggest to engage one as well.

Surprisingly its not a small developer. It's a big ass GLC that i cannot disclose due to NDA settlement agreement, not sure what happened with this particular project tho.

Most of the initial complaint was minor one, the do rectify but the problem just kept on coming back. things like crack, leak, damp wall. Since the fix is somewhat useless and the developer macam bo layan.
so half of the house owners approached a building inspectors. Only then it was pointed out by them that a lot of stuff inside the house does not follows the agreed signed S&P. Based on the report iirc is they used lower grade tiles, some house windows is smaller in size, missing plug points, lower grade electrical wire, some house reduced in size, house roof angle insufficient, this is among the major stuff that i remember. Why 150k? because based on the report by right most of the house have to redo the whole rooftop.

We brought the case to court and only then the developers decided to take the case seriously. If only the fixed the issues earnestly the dont have to spend so much on settlement. Its like buying the house with 40% discount. lol

This post has been edited by kira_88: Sep 2 2024, 04:46 PM

I think it's what you do in toilet to ensure that they do proper waterproofing, very important fopr strata home or double storey home.

they block the floor trap then fill the toilet with water and leave it for a period of time. if water did not subside the okay lor

For condo with IBS construction method. Wall & level defect is a bit less than regular pour cement one.

The wall is preproduction at kilang already, bring to site portion by portion then connect like lego. Its built hard like hell.

yes, with photos and help to submit to defect report app.

eh, north? jauhnye

This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Sep 2 2024, 05:25 PM

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