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post Aug 28 2024, 12:14 PM, updated 2y ago

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KUALA LUMPUR (Aug 27): Planning permission applications for the construction of buildings in Kuala Lumpur will no longer be considered without a geotechnical study prepared by certified engineers, under a new directive issued by Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL).
The letter was issued to the directors of DBKL's City Planning Department, Building Control Department and Infrastructure Planning Department, as well as to the secretariat head of the local authority's one-stop committee.

It is unclear whether the directive will affect projects which have secured approvals for the aforementioned processes. The Edge has reached out to a DBKL spokesperson, who declined to elaborate on the letter.

On Monday, Minister in the Prime Minister's Department (Federal Territories) Dr Zaliha Mustafa was quoted as saying that DBKL has been directed to collaborate closely with geologists and infrastructure experts to evaluate and mitigate the risk of future sinkholes.

Second sinkhole spotted on Jalan Masjid India

KUALA LUMPUR (Aug 28): Another sinkhole has been reported on Jalan Masjid India here, about 50 metres from where the ground suddenly collapsed, swallowing a woman pedestrian last Friday.
The latest incident is said to have occurred at around 2.30am on Wednesday, believed due to the heavy rain and storm on Tuesday night.

Speaking to The Straits Times, Professor Jeffrey Chiang Choong Luin, president of the Institution of Engineers, Malaysia, said the close proximity of the first and second sinkholes hints at a link between the two. There could be a service pipe that has been compromised running underground. If it has been compromised, this would affect the soil’s integrity and the water seepage would erode the soil,said Prof Chiang.

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A staff member of the Palace Hotel in Jalan Masjid India, who wanted to be known only as Jamal, told ST he was not worried about falling into any sinkholes on the road.

However, the same could not be said of guests, with the hotel seeing 20 per cent of bookings cancelled since the accident happened.

“It’s not the first time this has happened. There was a sinkhole a few months ago, there was another one last month and then the sinkhole that took the tourist and now this one. I am just cautious when I walk around, and I avoid pavements that are sunken,” said Mr Jamal.


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Now only do? How about old buildings or building that build before today need to resubmit?

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one sinkhole one live, triggers DBKL to make geotechnical test compulsory

so many people suicide burnout abused everyday, don't see gomen make see counselor/ psychiatrist/ psychologist compulsory...
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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Aug 28 2024, 12:15 PM)
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Looks like the whole masjid India area might be unsafe. Not sure how many holes are there now.
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i think if check now the whole place is condemn. lol
safe 30 years ago don't mean safe in 2024.

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Before this no need?
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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 28 2024, 12:16 PM)
one sinkhole one live, triggers DBKL to make geotechnical test compulsory

so many people suicide burnout abused everyday, don't see gomen make see counselor/ psychiatrist/ psychologist compulsory...
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but why so many kena scams and no actions?
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Aug 28 2024, 01:12 PM)
Before this no need?
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QUOTE(Seawater @ Aug 28 2024, 01:10 PM)
Looks like the whole masjid India area might be unsafe. Not sure how many holes are there now.
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My thoughts exactly. If really do study now, soooo many bisnes in the area will fold. For sure therewill be protests and counter-protests. And then it will have become a political decisions already.
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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Aug 28 2024, 12:16 PM)
Now only do? How about old buildings or building that build before today need to resubmit?
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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Aug 28 2024, 01:14 PM)
but why so many kena scams and no actions?
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malaysia is scam haven

all rich people live in KLCC posh condos... some have dirty money.


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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 28 2024, 01:22 PM)
malaysia is scam haven

all rich people live in KLCC posh condos... some have dirty money.
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actually you see their living styles and look, you will know
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It took them 2 holes to realise they need to do such. LOL
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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Aug 28 2024, 12:16 PM)
Now only do? How about old buildings or building that build before today need to resubmit?
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build sudah submit for wat?

tarak hal jangan buat hal wokay???

kalau ada hal baru la talk whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Aug 28 2024, 01:28 PM)
actually you see their living styles and look, you will know
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DBKL should have done this decades ago instead of instant approval here and there.
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Itu la so happy approve this approve that, now got big shit uncovering before your eyes. Good luck
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Careful, now jalan masjid india become like that squid game already


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QUOTE(Seawater @ Aug 28 2024, 01:10 PM)
Looks like the whole masjid India area might be unsafe. Not sure how many holes are there now.
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DBKL qualified or not? There is a big difference between geotechnical study and geological assessment.

Former is to design foundation/piling, which I am sure is already being done. Unless they saying buildings have been designed without any geotechnical surveys, then heads need to roll.

Latter is to see if any anomalies and ground water issues underneath and nearby. This is what identifies risks like the one we just had.

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What about houses..?
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QUOTE(kamfoo @ Aug 28 2024, 01:43 PM)
What about houses..?
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QUOTE(Mattrock @ Aug 28 2024, 01:39 PM)
DBKL qualified or not? There is a big difference between geotechnical study and geological assessment.

Former is to design foundation/piling, which I am sure is already being done. Unless they saying buildings have been designed without any geotechnical surveys, then heads need to roll. 

Latter is to see if any anomalies and ground water issues underneath and nearby. This is what identifies risks like the one we just had.
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Usually geotechnical report will include geological study, in which geotechnical engineer will appoint geologist to study the geology and geotechnical engineer will propose design based on the geological info.
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QUOTE(jetzxp @ Aug 28 2024, 01:50 PM)
Usually geotechnical report will include geological study, in which geotechnical engineer will appoint geologist to study the geology and geotechnical engineer will propose design  based on the geological info.
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Ok thanks, if that is how it is done here, then great. Then why is DBKL making it sound like a new requirement? Maybe not everyone includes the geological study part in the report, I suppose. They need to be very specific on what they want, or else same old, same old..
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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Aug 28 2024, 12:16 PM)
Now only do? How about old buildings or building that build before today need to resubmit?
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This the area which Umno proposed to gazette as Bumi Special Economic Zone?

LOL!
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QUOTE(Mattrock @ Aug 28 2024, 02:01 PM)
Ok thanks, if that is how it is done here, then great. Then why is DBKL making it sound like a new requirement? Maybe not everyone includes the geological study part in the report, I suppose. They need to be very specific on what they want, or else same old, same old..
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This is not practice for most of the projects where there is no major geotechnical works or concern like a tall slope, deep excavation etc. Normal projects at the moment normally don't require geotechnical report when they apply for planning permission/approval.
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The shop price straight away become holland?
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QUOTE(jetzxp @ Aug 28 2024, 02:27 PM)
This is not practice for most of the projects where there is no major geotechnical works or concern like a tall slope, deep excavation etc. Normal projects at the moment normally don't require geotechnical report when they apply for planning permission/approval.
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lets just hope deep foundations building like TRX, merdeka 118 and klcc all got biggrin.gif

but anyway I suspect this area related to KL river of life project which has been delayed ten years already. very old area, and swift river bank nearby.

Malaysia’s ambitious River of Life project struggles to meet deadline despite $1.2 billion spent

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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Aug 28 2024, 12:16 PM)
Now only do? How about old buildings or building that build before today need to resubmit?
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Aug 28 2024, 03:39 PM)
lets just hope deep foundations building like TRX, merdeka 118 and klcc all got biggrin.gif

but anyway I suspect this area related to KL river of life project which has been delayed ten years already. very old area, and swift river bank nearby.

Malaysia’s ambitious River of Life project struggles to meet deadline despite $1.2 billion spent
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tbh for highrises structure, less worry, because the foundations are usually well-designed. critical one should be roads and walkways where there are no foundations.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Aug 28 2024, 03:39 PM)
lets just hope deep foundations building like TRX, merdeka 118 and klcc all got biggrin.gif

but anyway I suspect this area related to KL river of life project which has been delayed ten years already. very old area, and swift river bank nearby.

Malaysia’s ambitious River of Life project struggles to meet deadline despite $1.2 billion spent
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national geographic has a documentary on the klcc building process
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High rise all pump pile until very deep inside and bottom all dig out and poured huge chunk of concrete in as base and also no water leak down.. no issue one la ..

Those pavement is the issue, especially those near longkang, water pipe, sewer pipe line

Almost all sink hole appear near or on sewer line..

Kuchai lama as example.. the one at nsk junction is.above manhole
Kuchai entrepreneur park road also above manhole..




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Means what ?

Must detonate few stick of dynamite to check soil compaction?
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Only new buildings? Before this no need? Heavy high rise no effect on the sorrounding geology?
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Time to condemn whole stretch and rebuild

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/s...an-masjid-india

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A staff member of the Palace Hotel in Jalan Masjid India, who wanted to be known only as Jamal, told ST he was not worried about falling into any sinkholes on the road.

However, the same could not be said of guests, with the hotel seeing 20 per cent of bookings cancelled since the accident happened.

“It’s not the first time this has happened. There was a sinkhole a few months ago, there was another one last month and then the sinkhole that took the tourist and now this one. I am just cautious when I walk around, and I avoid pavements that are sunken,” said Mr Jamal.


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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 28 2024, 12:16 PM)
one sinkhole one live, triggers DBKL to make geotechnical test compulsory

so many people suicide burnout abused everyday, don't see gomen make see counselor/ psychiatrist/ psychologist compulsory...
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because it doesnt affect them?

I wanna say something more but I am not ready to have surprise visitor at 4AM

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because it doesnt affect them?

I wanna say something more but I am not ready to have surprise visitor at 4AM
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yang terjadi sinkhole, jalan raya, tempat pejalan kaki. semua ini atas tanggungjawab DBKL

tapi yang kena geotechnical study, building pulak.

building orang dah buat piling stress test, apa guna new requirement ni. bangang punya DBKL.
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Aug 28 2024, 09:26 PM)
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Lease maybe no renew, need to check land
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Aug 28 2024, 12:14 PM)
KUALA LUMPUR (Aug 27): Planning permission applications for the construction of buildings in Kuala Lumpur will no longer be considered without a geotechnical study prepared by certified engineers, under a new directive issued by Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL).
The letter was issued to the directors of DBKL's City Planning Department, Building Control Department and  Infrastructure Planning Department, as well as to the secretariat head of the local authority's one-stop committee.

It is unclear whether the directive will affect projects which have secured approvals for the aforementioned processes. The Edge has reached out to a DBKL spokesperson, who declined to elaborate on the letter.

On Monday, Minister in the Prime Minister's Department (Federal Territories) Dr Zaliha Mustafa was quoted as saying that DBKL has been directed to collaborate closely with geologists and infrastructure experts to evaluate and mitigate the risk of future sinkholes.

Second sinkhole spotted on Jalan Masjid India

KUALA LUMPUR (Aug 28): Another sinkhole has been reported on Jalan Masjid India here, about 50 metres from where the ground suddenly collapsed, swallowing a woman pedestrian last Friday.
The latest incident is said to have occurred at around 2.30am on Wednesday, believed due to the heavy rain and storm on Tuesday night.

Speaking to The Straits Times, Professor Jeffrey Chiang Choong Luin, president of the Institution of Engineers, Malaysia, said the close proximity of the first and second sinkholes hints at a link between the two. There could be a service pipe that has been compromised running underground. If it has been compromised, this would affect the soil’s integrity and the water seepage would erode the soil,said Prof Chiang.
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Aug 28 2024, 09:27 PM)
Lease maybe no renew, need to check land
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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 28 2024, 12:16 PM)
one sinkhole one live, triggers DBKL to make geotechnical test compulsory

so many people suicide burnout abused everyday, don't see gomen make see counselor/ psychiatrist/ psychologist compulsory...
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Suicide and burnout is own choice, no?
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QUOTE(ju146 @ Aug 28 2024, 01:28 PM)
It took them 2 holes to realise they need to do such. LOL
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Budaya Malaysia is , if no incident.. buat bodo and proceed jer.

Once got incident baru wanna kaji this and that.
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QUOTE(toothgnasher @ Aug 28 2024, 09:18 PM)
yang terjadi sinkhole, jalan raya, tempat pejalan kaki. semua ini atas tanggungjawab DBKL

tapi yang kena geotechnical study, building pulak.

building orang dah buat piling stress test, apa guna new requirement ni. bangang punya DBKL.
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Was about comment this.

If bangunan yg runtuh, developer yg kena siasat dan bagi justifikasi
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QUOTE(agility @ Aug 28 2024, 10:05 PM)
Suicide and burnout is own choice, no?
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you think so? burnout is own choice? suicide is own choice?

if government cares enough, they would do something...

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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 29 2024, 03:59 AM)
you think so? burnout is own choice? suicide is own choice?

if government cares enough, they would do something...
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Yes, suicide is own choice and it isn't necessarily bad nor a sign of weakness. Maybe the government can help by legalizing euthanasia.
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